John Deere 4430 Disking Corn Ground With a White 271 Disk Part 1
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2021
- Trying to get the corn ground ready for planting. The 4430 is hooked up to the White 271 21ft disk. Things are not starting out so good. Keep getting the tractor stuck. But still having fun in spite of the mud troubles.
I totally understand, that’s why the Bible says “ one day at a time “ . You were tried and tested and pushed on .
Thanks for the kind words. I believe all things will happen in God's time. Sometimes we have to wait. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Man I love that truck!! I really enjoy your positive attitude towards the constant struggles we face, you guys more than me! You had a day kinda like mine usually go! That ground didn't seem wet at all where you got stuck the second time. Can't wait to see the second part, hopefully you get your ground ready for fertilizer like you need. Thank you for bringing us along!!
Thanks. I try to stay positive. Sometimes not that easy. I'll have Part 2 out soon. It goes a lot better. I sure appreciate the kind words and watching. Thanks.
@@stinsonfarms6724 Always my friend, that attitude and good spirit is what I love watching here!! Glad it went better, can't wait to see! Farm on my friend, I am always learning and love the experience!!
Thanks for your time to share with us. That field, was very nice undisturbed and the structure of the soil was excellent for no-tillage - direct planting in it. That way moisture would be kept for month to come as corn needs a lot of water. You may have regular rain in that region though. Good luck !
I have never tried no-till. It would have planted nice. I primarily work the ground because I love doing it. If I did more acres I would probably do some no-tilling. This farm is a little on the wet side and will normally hold moisture good through the year. Thanks for watching!!
I got stuck like that many times with a 4640. Did exactly the same thing you did getting both out of the mud. Don't think I ever got the front in like that though. You got me on that one. When I was a kid we had an Oliver 1800 with a narrow front that would happen with. Good Vedo!
I got stuck 3 times that day! Was pretty dry on top but if I ever slipped it was over. Long day!! Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Nice looking 4430. We used to own a 271. They do a nice job
Thanks! The 271 is in great shape and does a good job. It's heavy though! Thanks for watching!!
@@stinsonfarms6724 yes they are. White made some of the best tillage equipment in the industry back in the day. White moldboard plows were the best. My friends had a jd dealer in the 80’s and they said when deere come out with the 4450, they sent 3 around the country all running 3 different plows, JD, white, & IH...testing each of them. They were tested in our area of the country on their farm in western NY. He’s got pics to prove it. White was the best plow he said.
Dang the luck. She sank like a rock from the looks of it. I can admit it too, I've sank a tractor or two in the mud & had to wear hydraulic oil all day before. Keep up the good work.
It was hung before I knew it. Not the worst I've been stuck but bad enough. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!!
Man you are doing a good job discing under the wet spots even with 4 wheel drive you would of had issues keep up the gd work and wish I could be there too help you
Thank you! I was a hard day. Lol Thanks for stopping by!!
Been there done that! I feel your pain.
Been there few times myself. Not fun at the time but fun to look back on. Thanks for being here and watching!!
When I was growing up was working land we had a an 18’ Allis Chalmers 2300 on a 4240 and a 26’ Case IH 496 on a Ford 8670. Some years it was so wet we had to use the small disks on the 8670 that’s just the way it goes sometimes
I have had to do the same thing. Problem was, at the time I made this video I didn't have a smaller disk. This one is too heavy to pull in wet ground. I now have a smaller disk and had to use it for this reason this year.
Nice old 4430
I love her. Pretty good old tractor for 49 years old. Thanks for watching!!
I think you can mount a either a tumbling harrow or a mulching harrow behind the disc.. even a good Oak 2 by 12 would help...
I was thinking of putting a rolling basket behind it. It loads my tractor pretty good as it is so I'll probably get a lighter tillage tool for the final pass before planting. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!!
WHITE/Oliver tillage implements are top notch.
Yes. I have had a couple White disk and they work great. Thanks for stopping by!!
Nice tractor. I’m looking at one for my farm
I like older tractors in general, but I really love the 4430. For me it is very satisfying to drive. They are good old tractors. Thanks for watching!!
Damn nice 4430, old school tractor. My advice............ put some beefy 3-rib tires on the front of that and make it not only look better but allow it to be more field condition friendly.
Thank you! It's not perfect, but for a 49 year old working tractor, it is pretty nice. I have new tires on the front now. Made a difference in how it looks and handles. Thanks for watching!!
@@stinsonfarms6724 No problem, nice channel you have and was just throwing in my 2cents. If it were mine, I'd put a set of 4840 big tires on the front. Would honestly not only help with staying afloat in wet heavy soil conditions but also look meaner.... 👍.
THANK YOU. Just walking in style......
Been there, done that more times than I can count
Me too. And a whole lot worse than this. Thanks for watching!!
my dads pickup is that same style. its a 69. it had a 270 in it but *someone* ruined it so my dads girlfriends brother built him a new one but they reused the heads and a month later my dads friends went for a joy ride and blew it up so its sat in our machine shed ever since. its only two wheel drive but it has a four speed.
They are nice old trucks. I had a 69 at one time. Like the older stuff. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!!!
Man that stinks. I stopped molboard plowing because of that reason. I found for our ground here is to chisel plow in the fall and then disc it then. In the spring the ground doesn't seem to have those wet spots and mother nature has taken the winter to fill in those voids and will give you support. Then in the spring I can get fertilizer spread and then run the field cultivator through it. Hopefully you can find what will work for you and the ground you have.
My plan going forward is to do primary tillage in the fall and just light till in spring. Because of the farm being new to us and was rented to another farmer last year I didn't have the opportunity last fall. The crop didn't come out of the field till mid November. Plus we were dry most of April and have gotten a lot of rain since. I really need some type of light finishing tool. Thanks for watching!!
also really nice tractor
Thank you!! I love running it!
Run at a slight angle keep from riding in the furrows
Hola saludos desde chile
hes still doing the old way like my dad and i
I know there may be better ways of doing it now days, but I enjoy the old ways! Thanks for watching!!
2.99 for fuel ?
Ha. Those was the good ole days
Fjb
I know right!! Thanks for watching!!
Just an observation your rear duals on the 4430 are spaced too close. And have you got fluid in your tires or wheel weights. We had a 4520 in the 70's that had close spaced duals and it was a problem in early spring whe farmed in what was called a floodway it was bad when we got a wood chunk or rock caught between them and had to pull them out.
I do have wheel weights and fluid in the inside tires. The duals are snap on and I don't have anyway to space them out. I want to get a set of hubs and so bolt on duals so I can adjust them where I want them. Plus the tires on the duals are worn out. Thanks for watching and commenting. Much appreciated!!
We always tried to moldboard plow in the fall and let the winter weather and settle the ground. If we used a moldboard in the spring we always tried to disc or field cultivate the field right behind the moldboard before it got rained on.
I try to do the same thing. The farm was leased to another farmer when we purchased it and I didn't have access to it in the fall. I did some moldboard plowing last fall and hopefully it will work better this year. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
In my part of the country if you disk ground that wet you have lumps as soon as the sun comes out.
We have some like that as well. The ground I have at our home place is heavy clay. If you try to work it wet you'll have clods all year. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
The White 271 disk any good?
I've had good luck with it. It cuts really good. It's not a great finishing tool. It really needs something behind it to smooth out the dirt but it will flat cut. Thanks for watching!!
Been done that ,dropped 4020 in what my dad called a quick sand pocket with fertilizer spreader one spring , oops!
Been there way too often myself. Thanks for watching!!
How many acres do the tractors work on?
We only do around 70 acres total.
Definitely agreeded but I heard fertilizer went down in Pennsylvania
I bought my fertilizer early this year, it was down 45% from last year. That helps a lot. Thanks for watching!!
@@stinsonfarms6724 ohh alright I see yep no problem we got a channel about our farm to
👍👌🇨🇦❤
Thanks for being here!!
Input costs never go down and the price of crops is starting to drop
You are right. Once the cost goes up it doesn't come back down regardless what the grain price does. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
I thought your video was great. I know how that is , been there myself. 15' disc maybe better? I have a question. Some friends tell me 4430's are tough on fuel costs. Could you please reply on that?
Thank you! That is exactly what I did. I bought a 15 ft 210 disk that I'll be using this year. As for your question, if I have a good load behind it, It will use as much as 8 gallon or more an hour. So yes, it like fuel. Thanks for watching!!
That field is in need of some tile .
It sure is. This is a new farm for us. Tile is in the plans for the future. Thanks for watching!!
@@stinsonfarms6724 ...Love the 4430 , it was our first tractor with a cab . We all fought over who would get to drive it .
@@toledojeeper2932 thanks! It's the first one I've had that the air works in. So it's pretty popular around here.
@@stinsonfarms6724 ...We also had a JD 7000 planter 12 row .
Good luck in the future.
id keep off til it dryed out a bit,
I was in too big a hurry to get started! Lol Thanks!!
Cultimulcher.
A cultimulcher would be nice.Would've worked great in that ground. Thanks for watching!!
Tenes que disquear cruzado........🤦🏻♂️🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🙋🏻♂️
I tried that too. Got hung up doing that as well. Just too wet! Thanks for watching!!
Nechápu proč jel do Pole když je tak mokré u nás v ČR se jede až je suché krásně
It was a wet spring and I was just trying to get started. Thanks for watching!!
you should use double self.
Wouldn't it be better if you went through it first with a set of off sets!😮
Off sets would have worked nice, but I don't own a set. Have to use what I have. Thanks for watching!!
@Stinson Farms thanks! I work on a farm too! And soon we hope late April and or May we might plant potatoes! We plant everything squash, cabbage, broccoli, colliflower, we're learning the right soil conditions for each "cold crop" as we go along . As fertilizer is expensive $$!😵💫🤯 we are looking for alternatives. I wish you the best of seasons my friend!!🫡🫡🩵👍🫶
Sounds like you are going to be busy! Good luck and I hope you have a great crop this year!
Why do Americans always disc? I feel like it makes the surface more uneven by throwing soil to one side of the machine. Then when you turn around and disc the next row in the other direction, you throw that soil and some more back again. My preference goes out to rotary harrowing for somewhat heavier soils, or plowing with packer rings on lighter soils.
I still like to do it the old way. Plus, I use what I have. I will pull a harrow over it the last pass to help level out the ground.
@@stinsonfarms6724 The result looks good. I enjoy seeing you work with these machines. The latest, biggest, and best don't always make financial sense.
too wet ground
That is a true statement! Thanks for watching!
As a soil technician, I understand that weather is most of the time the boss and that farmers have to deal with it. I suppose you had to do it and that maybe time was running out for you. On the other hand, I hope you knew what you were doing. You're the only one who knows the field soil and it's limit. For me, it was simply not the right timing to disk that field. I'm not judging you here. I'm simply giving my opinion.
Looks like a perdickiment I'd be in
I have been there too many times!! Probably not the last time ether! Thanks for watching!!
I thought Americans are not using ploughing anymore,are u not using some minimum tillage systems ?.
I do some of both. This was heavy grass so I wanted to turn it under.I don't plow every year. I'll use a disc harrow mostly. I prefer to do tillage to control weeds over herbicide when I can. Plus, I enjoy the tillage work. That is how we did it when I was growing up. I will also be planting some no-till corn this year on a new farm I rented. Thanks for watching!!
Gotta have that mfwd.. makes life tricky without it.
I have had a tractor with mfwd before, and yes, it makes things a little less troublesome! Thanks for watching!!