Finally a REAL Thanos Nerf & Angela gets her groove back! - Marvel SNAP Card Changes Review

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  • @PenitusVox
    @PenitusVox Před 2 měsíci +143

    Some people are going to be frustrated but honestly I think this version of Thanos they're moving toward is a lot cooler. He starts in your hand and, I imagine, you'll slowly be buffing him up with each infinity stone you play. That's how he always should have worked.

    • @keeb5168
      @keeb5168 Před 2 měsíci +23

      ​@@markthetranslator1162 So I guess you didn't watch the video?

    • @Ra-Ramses
      @Ra-Ramses Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@markthetranslator1162​​⁠​​⁠​​⁠ this skepticism of the MS team is sooooo unwarranted especially under a video where the MS team is doing the exact opposite of what you’re saying. Angela, Crossbones, and Sabretooth are all S3 and below and they were buffed this patch, meanwhile Thanos is permanently S5 and Miek is S4 and the newest card changed in the patch and they were nerfed. How is that nerfing old cards and buffing new ones to make money?!! It’s actually like you didn’t watch the video

    • @JorgeHernandez-px8uy
      @JorgeHernandez-px8uy Před 2 měsíci

      @@keeb5168 Nah, he’s being a sad little troll

    • @lurosun
      @lurosun Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@markthetranslator1162 I've only seen this amount of skepticism in Marvel snap and I wonder why. It's just unwarranted.

    • @PenitusVox
      @PenitusVox Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@lurosun
      I think part of the problem is that since this is an accessible mobile game, it's a lot of people's first card game and experience with balance changes.

  • @Jmerithew87
    @Jmerithew87 Před 2 měsíci +40

    To be fair, Cull was always meant to be a Thanos card, as his original datamined iteration required an infinity stone and not just a 1 cost card.

  • @JustinTheRevLovejoy
    @JustinTheRevLovejoy Před 2 měsíci +55

    Yay Angela! Now benefits from Ravonna now too?

    • @shai310
      @shai310 Před měsícem

      Tbh Ravonna discounts both Angela and Bishop so there's room to experiment there.

  • @SirLanik
    @SirLanik Před 2 měsíci +21

    Just lost a match last night because I forgot Angela only gained +1. My boomer memory is glad to see this change

    • @danielkristensen3386
      @danielkristensen3386 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Get ready to lose a game because your brain got used to the +1, when your opponent plays her.

  • @JorgeHernandez-px8uy
    @JorgeHernandez-px8uy Před 2 měsíci +7

    I think this design on Thanos should’ve been the focus since the beginning. Stones should encourage you to play Thanos. For example, maybe soul stone makes Thanos so that he couldn’t be destroyed, or space stone males him able ti be played everywhere, power gives him +2 for every stone you’ve played, reality makes it so that whenever Thanos gets played, he changes the location, etc.

  • @lucky_mouse
    @lucky_mouse Před 2 měsíci +5

    I wonder if, as we see the stones being changed to focus more on Thanos, Second Dinner will also rework the location that gives a random stone to each player. Might not make sense in the future.

  • @bagoftrix
    @bagoftrix Před 2 měsíci +17

    Petition to make captain America a 3/5! 😊
    Very happy with the crossbones buff. Don’t own Cull and hopefully this makes my War Machine a bit better too

  • @windmagus8573
    @windmagus8573 Před 2 měsíci +13

    I appreciate that second dinner keeps changing things. It allows mistakes to be made and fixed as needed.

  • @jamesbeam85
    @jamesbeam85 Před 2 měsíci +3

    This has nothing to do with the ota but I just want to mention how much I love that you get to see the opponents red hulk when it gains power so you can plan your moves accordingly instead of having to guess what the power he would at

  • @jackmichaelcarr3555
    @jackmichaelcarr3555 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Getting a 20 power Thanos is never seen but is so fitting and cool to achieve. Once put power stone in sinister and got a 50 power Thanos back before tribunal

  • @splashy8403
    @splashy8403 Před 2 měsíci +12

    honestly i am more looking forward to actually playing a THANOS deck instead of a pile of marvel snap cards

  • @cregkly5444
    @cregkly5444 Před 2 měsíci +14

    Quicksilver has been power crept 😂

  • @ZodoftheNo
    @ZodoftheNo Před 2 měsíci +2

    I think they should reduce thanos starting power and then give him +3 power per stone played, and change the power stone to make him immune to power changes, and then playing all stones makes him indestructible

  • @choklomba
    @choklomba Před 2 měsíci +13

    Angela revert let's goooooooo

  • @natetravis8679
    @natetravis8679 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love the new focus of thanos! He was fun to get down with all the stones but it probably only happens to me 1/100 times

  • @CAMERONJTC97
    @CAMERONJTC97 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Pulled the Noir variant for crossbones the other day, looking forward to playing it :)

  • @valentinafuffa535
    @valentinafuffa535 Před 2 měsíci +2

    that +1 strength of sabretooth technically gets spread across venom and knull giving the destroy archetype a +3 overall stats in luckiest cases. could see people try that out. but yeah mobius is a problem for that card. perhaps creating a 0/5 card that sabretooth would make appear in your hand when destroyed would be a good way to circumvent that. not that destroy would need that many buffs anyway, but changing things up a bit is fun

    • @thanoshadtherightidea8724
      @thanoshadtherightidea8724 Před 2 měsíci

      Possibly more because after you eat him once he is free to play out so you can eat him again and again to buff carnage or just as a free drop alongside deathlock. If he goes back into destroy decks it could be as much as +5 in a "normal" game and even more in a game with deaths domain or alter of death.

  • @aidencoleman2872
    @aidencoleman2872 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very happy with these changes! I really need a white queen buff in the future so I can use some her sick variants

  • @bhimadhewantara7348
    @bhimadhewantara7348 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanos has quicksilver's ability now😂😂

  • @forbiddenphoenix765
    @forbiddenphoenix765 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I like the Crossbones change. Glad they’re continuing to look at where they can stop older cards from being power creeped out of play. As it stands I think Cull still wins out simply because the one-cost card doesn’t have to already be in play. I can see them maybe changing that in the future.

  • @benkpeltz
    @benkpeltz Před 2 měsíci

    Shuri Kitty with Red Hulk was already performing well for me and the Angela buff makes it even better. Should be a fun week!

  • @Dasherrrrrr
    @Dasherrrrrr Před 2 měsíci

    Interested to see if the Angela change will bring back bounce

  • @ZeeFreak
    @ZeeFreak Před 2 měsíci +2

    Kinda sad to see the Sanctuary location get changed whenever thanos stones get hit, so now time stone is just draw a card pretty much in that case

    • @cregkly5444
      @cregkly5444 Před 2 měsíci

      Fair call-out. Reading the notes, I think this is just a band-aid until the other stones get their rework.

  • @Keratzis
    @Keratzis Před 2 měsíci +8

    This OTA hasn’t gone live for me yet. I think this might have been posted early by accident

    • @benjaminwatkins429
      @benjaminwatkins429 Před 2 měsíci

      Make sure you've updated from the App store

    • @Keratzis
      @Keratzis Před 2 měsíci

      @@benjaminwatkins429 that’s not how the OTA works, it’s not a patched update. Its released server side

    • @HooglandiaSnap
      @HooglandiaSnap  Před 2 měsíci +3

      The OTA notes went up early on Steam which made posting this before they were live in the client fair game.

    • @Keratzis
      @Keratzis Před 2 měsíci

      @@HooglandiaSnap I agree 100%. I didn’t realise they went out on steam early. I guess I assumed these videos were on a schedule as content creators roughly know when/what the changes will be ahead of time. I won’t be assuming that moving forward.

  • @TheSuperf12
    @TheSuperf12 Před 2 měsíci

    I love the idea of thanos and its infinity stones to be more focused on playing thanos.. but they seem to just have forgotten on the location sanctuary 2...

  • @deathlybadger7192
    @deathlybadger7192 Před 2 měsíci

    Didn’t expect Quicksilver to take a shadow nerf lmao

  • @draakisback
    @draakisback Před 2 měsíci

    Looks like thanos is still fairly strong in the post patch meta ill be curious to see where things go as people start to figure out the meta from here. In the comics and in the MCU, his aquisition of the infinity stones gave him more power, it makes sense that they are taking him in a direction like that, though with that said; it could be cool thematically if somehow they could make thanos unstoppable if you are able to play all of his stones in a game (I imagine that would be really difficult to balance though given how card draw works in this game). In the original Infinity gauntlet storyline, he was basically unstoppable and the only reason why he lost was due to his own shortcomings.
    Im glad they are finally trying to make smaller cards more relevant again. My favorite types of cards are low powered ones which grow over the course of the game based on the actions that you take. I find that much more strategic than just brute forcing a location with a ton of power. Obviously since the game is based around winning with power, it makes sense to have a lot of large "creature" cards but its pretty boring to just throw out a single 20+ power card at the end of the game to win.

  • @thanoshadtherightidea8724
    @thanoshadtherightidea8724 Před 2 měsíci

    Sad you didn't mention the change to the baxter building. The text in the game just said "do you get it? Yeah, you get it." but I don't get it and was hoping you would explain it.

    • @HooglandiaSnap
      @HooglandiaSnap  Před 2 měsíci

      Baxter building is the base of the fantastic four. They also rolled this OTA out on 4/4/24

  • @gregmcphersonii5477
    @gregmcphersonii5477 Před 2 měsíci

    I was already enjoying your Bast bounce deck so really excited for the Angela change as well.

  • @trevorarmstrong1000
    @trevorarmstrong1000 Před 2 měsíci

    Solid change to the meta. Looking forward to see how it actually affects thanos.

  • @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id
    @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id Před 2 měsíci

    So, Cerebro 5 Destroy deck hightlight tomorrow?

  • @jikew7364
    @jikew7364 Před 2 měsíci

    so glad to finally be able to play with angela again

  • @Nero1511
    @Nero1511 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I AM INEVITABLE - in your hand

  • @edfries2002
    @edfries2002 Před 2 měsíci +3

    🎉🎉 watching live on twitch

  • @benjaminwatkins429
    @benjaminwatkins429 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanos's Infinity Stone "package" 😮

  • @darrenskeeter4246
    @darrenskeeter4246 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanos be the win con in Thanos decks? Dope

  • @sife1808
    @sife1808 Před 2 měsíci

    Angela is back. She was one of my favorite cards and I got some nice variants of her. I loved those angela bounce decks. With Elsa also better, I want to try the classic Beast bounce deck. I am pretty sure Jeff will also try it out soon.

  • @connorhamilton5707
    @connorhamilton5707 Před 2 měsíci

    These changes all seem great, even if only by a small amount.
    Angela being reverted is fantastic! I really enjoyed Angela decks when I started, and I'm excited to see her easily get huge again. Also, she can be discounted by Ravonna now, though I don't think that will be too impactful.
    Thanos being more of a focus in the deck makes sense, and I really like the flavor of him just sitting around in your hand while you fetch the stones for him.
    I don't have too much experience facing Miek, but a small power decrease seems justified for a card that can get huge and move anywhere.
    Crossbones was an okay replacement for Cull Obsidian in the Black Knight War Machine strategy, but the power drop was noticeable, and you often needed War Machine's effect to play him. Cull Obsidian is also easier to play when you consider how the necessary 1-drop can be played at the same time, while Crossbones requires that you are winning the location at the start of the turn.
    Sabretooth buff is nice to see. The problem I see is that he's kind of meant to be something you destroy again and again before being a cheap power boost on the final turn, but he's so expensive initially that it's hard to justify, and he gets completely shut down by Mobius. He's like the Swarm of destroy, but he requires investment to see any benefit, and Death fills the role of extra power on the final turn better in a lot of cases.

  • @slayers05
    @slayers05 Před 2 měsíci

    glad to see the changes to thanos to trying to play more the card itself and not the stones only 👍👍, great OTA

  • @Flamblade
    @Flamblade Před 2 měsíci +1

    SD be praised. I really don't understand why SD avoids nerfing Alioth so much. But I'm happy to take this patch for now. I love the direction Thanos is taking with the recent balance patches. I also love to have +2 Angela back. 4/10 Crossbones might be relevant, but let's wait and see.

  • @joseph2000117
    @joseph2000117 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bounce deck renaissance PLEASE 🙏🏼

  • @roniusadethel9768
    @roniusadethel9768 Před 2 měsíci

    I remember back when people were commenting that "this patch is more of an OTA." Now this OTA is insane.

  • @dkaptain5879
    @dkaptain5879 Před 2 měsíci

    Def playing some Angela/Kitty tonight

  • @stephenam5893
    @stephenam5893 Před 2 měsíci

    I've been playing Thanos in conquest and so far I like the change. Still winning matches but doesn't feel like a total blow out.

  • @Tryndal76
    @Tryndal76 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks Jeff!

  • @cazzyjunk7585
    @cazzyjunk7585 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Whoo Angela, let's goooo!

  • @mattvucu6706
    @mattvucu6706 Před 2 měsíci

    Well If they ever make this version of Thanos playable then they have to deal with the fact that spider ham ruins him… 😂

  • @swedishZ0mBi3
    @swedishZ0mBi3 Před 2 měsíci

    sooo great changes! yey!

  • @SlatePunchgroin
    @SlatePunchgroin Před 2 měsíci

    Beard lookin on point sir

  • @markblancher6801
    @markblancher6801 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I saw this live on via Jeff-Ception on twitch, yet came back here to see it a again. God help me.

  • @3DHOBO98
    @3DHOBO98 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Cerebro 0 huge buffs this patch 😂

  • @normronishea2466
    @normronishea2466 Před 2 měsíci

    I love the new change to thanos it’s not bad to me

  • @Infernal07
    @Infernal07 Před 2 měsíci

    They should try doing the same thing like Thanos for High Evo somehow, to make him more useful in his own deck.

    • @celerysarcade
      @celerysarcade Před 2 měsíci

      High Evo is supposed to be bad. Thats the trade off for the evolved cards being above rate

  • @DrDisemb0wel
    @DrDisemb0wel Před 2 měsíci

    I hope with the future Thanos nerfs Sera and Lockjaw can get buffed again. It's wild how many nerfs other cards got because Thanos was out of hand

  • @Luca-mf8ot
    @Luca-mf8ot Před 2 měsíci

    bast bounce is back, i love life again

  • @bobbobby475
    @bobbobby475 Před 2 měsíci +1

    good nerf for thanos

  • @7hardy8
    @7hardy8 Před 2 měsíci

    Permanent S5 cards shouldn’t be changed simply. If they actually gave a damn, they’d do something for Kang

  • @NuckleBebop
    @NuckleBebop Před 2 měsíci +1

    Angela!!!!!😍

  • @pandasawrus
    @pandasawrus Před 2 měsíci

    No alioth change. I’ll skip this season too unless that happens. Disappointing, but not surprising. At least they are doing what I wanted with thanos.

  • @Chumblefunk
    @Chumblefunk Před 2 měsíci

    Crazy that an entire playsyle might be dumpstered for a while if these changes are bad enough. Big RIP to any poor bastard who spend 6k on Thanos / Blob recently.

    • @silvsilvsilv
      @silvsilvsilv Před 2 měsíci +1

      I feel like the amount of people playing Thanos because they like his mechanics is a hell of a lot smaller than the amount of people playing Thanos because he's the best deck.

  • @BarKeegan
    @BarKeegan Před 2 měsíci

    Not seeing OTA details in Discord

  • @luegi25
    @luegi25 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Clicked so fast omg

  • @Zinriusminazen
    @Zinriusminazen Před 2 měsíci +2

    People used to abusing Thanos's mechanics are crying and I love it. Keep it up Second Dinner!

  • @basenatic
    @basenatic Před 2 měsíci

    I think making the Infinity Stones into a mechanism to make a mega Thanos would be awesome.
    Time stone: On Reveal: Thanos get -1 cost
    Reality stone: on reveal: destroy 1 opposing card at each location containing a Thanos
    Power Stone: on reveal: give Thanos +5 power
    Space stone: on reveal: add Thanos to your hand(from wherever he is)
    Mind stone: ongoing: All infinity stones played here trigger there on reveals twice.
    Soul stone: on reveal: Thanos gains "On Reveal add a copy of Thanos to each other location
    Something that makes dropping that Thanos feel like a bomb worth investing in.

  • @blank4142
    @blank4142 Před 2 měsíci

    Hm, I guess I was expecting a little more from this OTA. Thanos change is cool, but nothing else really interesting for me personally, like my dream vision of a 3 cost Werewolf for instance.

    • @HooglandiaSnap
      @HooglandiaSnap  Před 2 měsíci +1

      With how long it took to get Angela back, not holding my breath on Wolf changes any time soon unfortunately.

  • @FrankiePeanuts
    @FrankiePeanuts Před 2 měsíci +1

    Crossbones:
    Previously 4/8
    Currently 4/10
    Result: Dies to Shang-Chi, still entirely unplayable.

    • @silvsilvsilv
      @silvsilvsilv Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah, because Cull, Sentry, and Mary see no play whatsoever, right?

  • @2tfl236
    @2tfl236 Před 2 měsíci

    Man I tried making a deck with Thanos as a win and it sucked. Now I can see power stone making him a viable big drop on 5 with taskmaster on 6

  • @razzmatazz214
    @razzmatazz214 Před 2 měsíci

    Here comes destroy and discard to completely take over the meta..

  • @thehero8012
    @thehero8012 Před 2 měsíci

    Power Stone: 1 Energy 1 Power, On Reveal: Give Thanos +2 Power.
    If you played every infinity stone, give him +10 power

  • @patrickchoo536
    @patrickchoo536 Před 2 měsíci

    I think its kinda bad tho... what if someone use Spiderham and hit Thanos?
    And what IF, Agatha and Thanos in the same deck? This could be cool? Maybe?

  • @Dreadnox87
    @Dreadnox87 Před 2 měsíci +3

    nimrod needs to be a 4/5

    • @Thesqueakydude
      @Thesqueakydude Před 2 měsíci

      nimrod need to be a 5/0 so I can play my negative destroy deck

  • @lightdemon2169
    @lightdemon2169 Před 2 měsíci

    never like seeing any card get dumpster but I guess now the community will stop complaining about Thanos.

  • @shanedbunting
    @shanedbunting Před 2 měsíci

    Sabertooth 3/5 when this is destroyed regenerate it at this location and give a random enemy card here -2 power.

  • @klinkclang
    @klinkclang Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanos changes are incomplete and should have never reached live servers.

  • @commandere
    @commandere Před 2 měsíci +1

    Omg if you can't leave Thanos alone remove him from the game at this point, this it getting ridiculous

    • @HooglandiaSnap
      @HooglandiaSnap  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Thanos was literally the best performing deck by a wide margin before this change bud.

    • @commandere
      @commandere Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@HooglandiaSnap I get it bud, just funny how many times they need to nerf him

    • @HooglandiaSnap
      @HooglandiaSnap  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Probably until his kit is balanced.

  • @blackspiderman4766
    @blackspiderman4766 Před 2 měsíci

    Hope they change werewolf back