Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes Review - Nostalgic JRPG Brilliance
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Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes emerges as a commendable homage to the beloved Suikoden series. It excels with a rich narrative full of intricate character dynamics and an engaging war story, supported by a vast character roster and beautiful, modern-traditional art design. Strategic gameplay elements add depth, though the game’s tendency to autopilot and underutilized open world might not satisfy players seeking a more interactive RPG experience.
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Isn’t just observing your character through the story kind of how every JRPG works? I don’t remember dragon quest 11 or any Final Fantasy where my choices mattered, for example?
Yeah, I didn't understand this critique whatsoever... Not every game needs to be a open world, player driven story with multiple endings. I actually prefer this approach of storytelling personally. I think it's more of a pacing and depth issue, but the author should probably try to clarify his own opinion before publishing it perhaps? I'm about two thirds of the way done with this game and I do think the writing isn't as good as the high points of the Suikoden series, maybe feeling a little more generic fantasy and less political but I'm still finding it engaging.
Dragon Quest 11 - has voiceless protagonist. You begin the game by taking on a trial that sets you on an adventure that you and the protagonist are experiencing for the first time together.
Final Fantasy - Which one? I’ll assume 16. it’s not designed around an auto battle options so you are in direct control of the action and movement. There also aren’t moments of “down time” as you’ll always be allowed to progress the narrative. Whereas in Hundred Heroes, there are times where you’re told go find some new allies, but it’s tough to care about the cause when the plot is flimsy and you’re in a situation where you feel like you’re watching a 3 hour movie, oh now I have to participate in this boss, then back to a 3 hour movie.
I do encourage you to play and understand for yourself. I’m only speaking on my experience and I still had a great time with the game. - Azario
Yeah, but this game takes it to the next level. No strategy in mob fights means just leave autobattle on, at that point you are just watching a lets play instead pf playing yourself. This is not a game, it is just an interactive movie.
@@NoisyPixelNews Ultimately I just think this is an unapologetically retro game that isn't trying to redefine the franchise it is inspired by. Suikoden has always been a game that is greater than the sum of its parts, a game that takes a different approach to most JRPGs and I'd rather this game try to stay true to its roots in what made it unique. I definitely wouldn't recommend Eiyuden Chronicles to the average gamer in general, and I wish this review took that into account a bit more. It's not just about our preferences when we review something, you should be considering the context and intent behind the design choices just as much as how much you personally jive with the experience. I don't think this game is a flawless execution by any means and I definitely have a number of critiques however the actual format of the game is exactly like Suikoden games and I mostly love that as a hardcore fan of the series.
I would actually recommend it to younger fans of JRPGs. It's a great intro to the genre with absolutely no barrier of entry. It remains surface level in terms of systems, but I think it's a brilliant display of what a retro JRPG experience can be. Following the feedback from players, I think the sequel will be more focused and just as brilliant.
I've never been left more confused by a review than this one..
It's like the reviewer didn't click with the game but he took the money so he had to praise anyway.
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@@hjk9934Is this true?
@@countquackula8539 I hope not. But it awfully feels that way.
@@hjk9934 took whos money? what does this mean
Brilliance for me is 9 or higher
Sure, but I measure it in spectacle, and that’s kinda what this game is. Just a chill, pretty JRPG spectacle.
Personally I'm quite glad the protag is voiced. Unless its a game with no voice acting i never want that...and even then i want them to be a written character lol.
I mostly pointed this out because Suikoden has voiceless protagonists.
It's refreshing, different, and I'm also glad main character is voiced.
7.5?!? How does that support “JRPG Brilliance”??
Good question
@@NoisyPixelNewsPoor answer.
@@NoisyPixelNews Clickbait answer and clickbait review.
@@NoisyPixelNews 🙄
@@NoisyPixelNews ???
Complaining that the main character is voiced and has a personality is very weird. Also a 7.5 does not deserve the title “jrpg brilliance”
Most of the Suikoden series features silent protagonists…which is why I pointed this out.
@NoisyPixelNews this is why I don't take gaming journalists seriously that is most jrpgs you're just experiencing someone else's story bad taking in my opinion
@@NoisyPixelNewsand also most grunt fights didn't have strategy in them and other RPGs so that's a dumb argument to
@@NoisyPixelNewsto me it sounds like you just don't like these kind of games
@@amacandtheswordoflight310 if I didn’t like something I wouldn’t spend my free time doing it. - Azario
This game looks incredible !
It is!
My respect for Noisy Pixel is down down down
Even if the sky is falling down?
It's been reported by Kickstarter backers that there was an issue on an old build where battles were too rare.
I've been playing on the deluxe edition and I actually have a pretty decently high encounter rate.
Just wanted to share that info.
Yes I played on the most recent build and the encounters are still low. You can adjust options somewhat in Hard Mode.
In the beta battles encounters were super rare. They fixed that in the live game. But the way leveling works you don't really need a lot of encounters.
@@justinc882 Yeah if anyone is underleveled they can get 2-3 levels per encounter it's bananas. You get everyone at the same level in 10 minutes max it's really neat. I love the way the game is balanced so far.
Just MP as a whole is super weird in the early hours I hope it gets better because spells are insanely overpriced and "good" but not justified for the price. They almost feel like ultimate moves you use once or twice per dungeon, and dungeons are crazy big in this game so it's even weirder. If savepoints gave MP back I'd be fine with that. But they don't. Very odd.
@@sombrego2260 MP restoring items become easier to get later in the game and money isn't as big of a deal. I think the idea is are supposed to treat magic as special. In the old Suikoden games you had limited number of uses of spell slots so you really had to be choosey for when you use them. I haven't personally run into an issue with MP running out but I always make sure I'm stocked on items properly before I leave town.
And yes, the leveling is great. I picked up Iugo last night and he's level 6 (clearly I missed him) while I was level 43. Took 5-10 minutes and hes level 38 right there with everyone else.
Thanks! Big Suikoden fan here. Glad you also enjoyed the game.
wait, 7.5? "a nostalgic jrpg experience that shoul be played by all fans of the genre" that sound very confusing for me
I’m sorry
There are framerate and performance issues that could be improved upon, but in terms of narrative quality....
@@LAGSASnarrative was good but not great. The first 3hours was kinda lame to me. It was hard for me to sympathize with perrielle. But one we got our hq, it got better though, i wish they did the build up bettee and have more things at stake.
I’ll wait for the physical release on the Switch. Game looks great. Thank you for the review.
I heard the most times are long on switch, but that will hopefully be patched.
@@NoisyPixelNewsload time?
The switch hardware is too dated. The load times probably wouldn't change much without an SSD.
the switch version is suffering from terrible perfomance issues, even the menu has loading times
Ive been playing on switch and it is TERRIBLY optimized on it.. 15-20 fps the game has crashed on me 7-8 times in 7 hours ive had enough so my kickstarter switch port can die, i bought it on steam, which has 0 issues.
Is there any secret ending that needed you recruit all of the character? Because if you talk about suikoden 2 or 5 which have impact if you have all recruitable character before ending would really give more enjoyable to seach and explore city.
Also the item you bring, is it have separate slot or its se as suikoden for accessory slot? Because we know that in Suikoden those item use same slot, thats why mostly people preffer pick healing rune than bring item.
I believe there is something unlocked if you get all the characters. I sadly don’t have that time right now to 100% it.
@@NoisyPixelNews got it. Because i kinda expect is become kinda long game with the recruitment stuff that need you run around the world
Thanks for the review! Was hoping for something on the level of Suikoden 2 but modernized with new design sensibilities :(
It definitely plays like an extension of V in terms of the puzzle nature of finding new allies and the easy battles
@@NoisyPixelNews What did you think about Hard mode? (just started listening to the review)
So for time sake I only play over an hour in Hard mode and one boss. It’s difficult, especially if you turn on things like limiting items in battles, so I didn’t find it fun, but I think on a new game it’ll be fun to do hard mode.
The game is great, if you like the series this is right up your alley.. don't be dissuaded from getting it.
Not much modernization. A good 'old-school' experience.
Noisy I gotta ask, with so many characters, does this game the problem of having too much and too little. As in, since there's so many characters, does it have the issue of not having the time to flesh them out, to make you care about them. Does it have little or no interaction between the characters ? Are most just one dimensional and only exist as a slot to fill in the battle system? I value story in my games heavily, and having characters that are both loveable and memorable is vital to me. Octopath kinda had this issue where having 8 characters made it difficult for me to be immersed in most of their stories, rather than focusing on lets say just 4, but those 4 are tightly written and are well thought out in both their goals, and their interactions with other characters, both serious and laidback.
It's a similar issue to most suikoden games. The characters have great personalities but once you recruit them you don't really deal with them much beyond. If they are in your party they will chime in on occasion in cutscenes. They are hilarious in post combat talk.
the recruitable character is good but you wont know that deep like their history or trauma anything. just barely surface, at the point they just Voiced npc that have face avatar. except certain character that keep engage with the main story, that just how suikoden game works.
Since there’s more than a hundred of characters, maybe about half of them will have a background story you can relate to, but each has their own personality but other than that, many characters you will only get to know a bit of them during their recruitment process. Other optional characters however, get a bit more story in them after their recruiment as some of them has a whole questline and sometimes connected to other optional recruitable character. The characters that are part of the main story, you dont have to worry about.
Also in previous suikoden games, few characters return to sequel because the whole world of suikoden was connected. So depending on which time period the game was, you can see some characters who return younger or older version of them and some even became a major part of the story, which is realy cool about that franchise. Hopefully they do the same with eiyuden if it gets a sequel.
apparently the low encounter rate is a review build bug
they will fix it on release
They provided the newest build to us and it's still present. Nothing I can really do about it :/
@@NoisyPixelNews There's a work around - lock your fps to 60. And not in game, do it at the driver level.
Is there any speed up options for battles?
If you set up your auto battle its faster but no speed up
Im already having so much fun with this game 😁 Is it perfect no, does it have a lot of awesome content and is it beautiful - yes 👍
It’s very safe and it works wonderfully! I encourage everyone play to play it if they want just a very natural and nostalgic jrpg experience.
Thanks! Sounds like a great game with a few things to improve. This made me decide to wait for a sale because it's expensive on switch, and I'm better picking up Megaton Musahi that releases the same week.
There’s so many games releasing at the end of April 😢
@@NoisyPixelNews yes, is a packed week, and the rest of the year is also filling up with releases.
The art style is so cool
Hella cool
From your review it sound like suikoden 2 and 5 which is i dont understand why you make it sound like it bad. I cant wait to play all of those minigame tho
I pointed out it’s like 2 and 5, and the game isn’t bad, it just needs some more work. I think this team is capable of it though which only means the sequel will be better
Cant wait to play this on my Ps5. I'm a Suikoden vet of sorts. Cant wait to jump into a game that looks oldschool mixed with new.
I didn't expect the score to be lower than Rance Quest Magnum :))
Rance Quest Magnum should be a 10
Thanks for the review. I was curious about the mechanics of this game and I think I'll pass based on what was said about the dungeons, exploration, and auto-battling
Yea. I think this will be the deciding factor for a lot of gamers.
Don't pass it up. Dungeons aren't that bad, 15-20m for a dungeon in a jrpg isn't that long especially with the encounter rate not being jacked up. Auto battle is completely optional and can be fine tuned if you want, it's just there to speed things up for players. The game isn't perfect but it's damn sure higher than 7.5
@@justinc882 I should've been more specific with my issues for each thing because it wasn't any of that haha.
I'm ok with the existence of auto-battling, but if I can get through most of the game with it, it's usually not something I'm interested in unless it's like a Unicorn Overlord situation. As for the dungeons, they don't sound long at all, just dull given what was said about exploration and only having 4-5 encounters. I also haven't seen anything suggesting the game would blow me away with its story either.
I might give it a shot at another time, but I've spent a lot of time on JRPGs already in 2024, so I needed something to draw me in here
@@V-vision That's fair. The dungeon encounter rate has seemed higher for me, just about right honestly. The story is good but as with the suikoden games it's broken up with long segments of you running around recruiting people. The stuff with Siegn and Nowa really shines. When you are in the story segments it's fantastic. There's a few times where someone would say something and I'd roll my eyes like "ok this stupid stuff" only to have the next character completely call them out (in a good way).
This has been a banger year for JRPGS for sure so I get it but if you like classic jrpgs I do think this is one you should check out. Feels like a proper Suikoden sequel in all the right ways.
If you've been playing JRPGs for years its a common thing that grunts take no work and you only have to pay real attention until boss fights. So I dont think the auto battle thing should be a turn off since thats how JRPGs tend to be.
Can't wait to play this on gamepass the hunt for 100 heros and I heard the combat is fun
2-4 encounters in dungeons? We must be playing a different game or you just ran straight past ever chest or hidden area. Also love the voice acting and the fact that there is so much and it so well done shows how far these types of games have come since the 90's.
Honestly it feels like the reviewer has no appreciation for the history of the genre and could care less what they are even reviewing here. Been playing it the past two days and grew up playing games like this and it brings me back to those days with adding a ton of quality features. For me it's a 9/10. Would be a 10/10 but there are some graphical problems like bad shadowing on the surroundings also there are a lot of load times.
Everyone has their own opinion but I hope more folks try this out. Especially if they have Gamepass on Xbox. Cheers.
The auto battle thing isn't that bad. Lets be honest something like Final Fantasy you do not need to think for grunt battles and can pick attack or auto battle option if its there. The only time you have to stop doing that is in boss fights. So this game fits the JRPG battle mold pretty well. I really dont get your spectator comment since well thats how I feel in most games work unless its choose your own adventure thing.
I'm so on the fence. I feel like, given how rare a jrpg is is, especially a turn based sprite one, I really want them to be masterpieces. And more importantly, I want the stories to reflect the amazing stories that defined JRPGs.
It's tough seeing a new jrpg come out and it's all just okay and spectacle.
If you listen carefully to Azario's review, he does not think it's "just okay and spectacle". To me, 12 hours in, this is a great classic style, old-fashioned JRPG experience. Very worth playing if you like those older games.
@@sonicmania9993 it's more so my interpretation from watching the footage.
@@Sagasaurus OK, got it. 👍I'm 12 hours in, and the story is really good. Searching for the playable characters is awesome (like in Suikoden games). But you've got to trust your own impressions/intuition.
I hear a lot of talk about Suikoden, but I never played those games, much as I wanted to. Still think it would be good for a newcomer?
Oh yea. Just know that mid game 20 hours in, it’ll feel more like a puzzle game as you take notes on who and how to recruit certain people. But that’s nearly every Suikoden.
If you dont mind about the oldschool 2.5 sprite then Suikoden 1-2 always welcome any new fans.
skip Suikoden 1 if you're overwhelmed though, the mechanics are janky and overall QoL is lacking (hopefully the remaster version will improve it, but it's Konami).
Play straight to S2, and if you're enjoying the game mid way, then you can check for S1 storyline and lore (interconnected but not mandatory), it's quite engaging really, the story and characters of S2 does really stood the test of time.
If you want to play Suikoden 2 legally, play it on PS3 if you have 1. I think it's 10 dollars on the PS store.
Or you could just wait for the remasters to come out lol.
So apparently there's a bug in this game where the higher your fps go beyond 60, the less frequent random encounters become. I just did my first dungeon and I got what felt like two dozen encounters.
Switch version needs a performance patch. There's a Day 1 update but from what I understand it's more of a bug fix than QoL.
I would love to know more about why this game creates the feeling of being a "viewer" instead of being "in the action". Can anyone tell me more about what causes this?
The cast of characters is very large, and the first main character isnt tied to them.
The spotlight is taken from the original first player character and only comes back when they are especially relevant, as opposed to a more static player insert.
@@LAGSASHey, thanks a zillion for this great reply that really helped me understand
Lol instead of rolling your eyes because your audience thinks your review is bad, have you considered the review might just be bad? You’re reviewing on a platform with comments.
Take the feedback and get better.
This review was so condescending lol
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Noisy, question for you: Was there an option to turn off the voice acting at all?
Yes you can turn voice volume off.
Thanks for getting to this question!
Thank you guys so much! I was really looking forward to the VA, but after hearing the trailers I'm now thinking they will need to be turned off to enjoy the game to its fullest.
@@TheStache777 Honestly, the english and JP VA are fantastic. Many of the VA's are absolutely hilarious and I recommend listening to them. But there is the option if you don't like it :)
@@justinc882 Thank you for that! I'm on the fence from whst I've seen so far. In comparison, Unicorn Overlord had incredible VA! I'll definitely try it out for EC to start...just don't want to get my hopes too high! LoL
Getting the vibe it's a mixed bag that manages to come out better than the sum of its parts, though most of those parts won't be that bad, the localization is once more an issue.
Also seems to run crappy on the switch, so personally waiting for a patch and a price drop or 2nd hand is best for me.
Would you put this on Unicorn Overlord's level?
I'm 15 hours in and I'd say it's slightly ahead of Unicorn Overlord for me.
Hell no. Unicorn is GOTY contender. Almost all Eiyuden reviews right now are giving it around a 7. Most saying how messy and disjointed the game is.
@@taigaaisaka6305
To each their own (and I LOVED UO)
But it's getting lots of great reviews as well. If it's "messy and disjointed" I haven't see that yet in my 22 hours into the game. It's not perfect but it's really good. IMO this and UO are both different games and both are up there for my RPG/GOTY
IGN Korea 10/10
Lords of Gaming 10/10
God is a Geek 9.5/10
Niche Gamer 9/10
Kakuchopurei 9/10
GameLuster 9/10
PSX Brasil 8.5/10
Infinite Start 8.5/10
INVEN 8.5/10
Cerealkillerz 8.3/10
Hobby Consolas 8.2/10
Gamer Guides 8/10
Push Square 8/10
Game Informer 8/10
RPGFan 8/10
It's a completely different experience. You can't compare the 2 at all.
Unicorn Overlord provides a more consistently good experience which you couldn’t get elsewhere.
Eiyuden has done peaks and colossal valleys so it comes off as being entirely average in the grand scheme of things
It’s just okay so not sure how it could be described as “brilliance” when other games on the market have this one beat lol
This is definitely suikoden 6, its a great jrpg from the 90s era in design. Its better than 7.5, for someone like me who grew up with these games it is easily a 9/10, just don't get it on switch.
Agreed.
Gotta love how people like you, who have not played the game at all, think they know better than the dozens of reviews coming out right now. You've concluded in your mind that it will be a 9/10 game despise not having played a single second of it. Make that make sense.
@@taigaaisaka6305 The thing is, we backers have our copies and are playing the full game right now.
@@taigaaisaka6305 I'm 12 hours in. Backer copies arrived last week.
So far, it's an 8.5 or 9.0 for me, classic story but a few minor issues. I also have a lot further to play, so that early feeling of what my score would be may go up, may go down.
Omg! Murayama passed away? Way too young! This is crazy!
:(
Are there permadeaths in the game? By permadeaths, I don't mean deaths that are part of the story, but having a characters dying in battle that you can no longer use.
Nope. They don’t get exp for being dead when the battle ends, but they revive when you return to the field.
@@NoisyPixelNews Cool, thank you.
Thanks
2:19 - Is that Yoshitaka Murayama ??
Pretty sure it's one of the backers
Was kinda convinced this game would be sweeping 9’s and 10’s across the board. Good to see that seasoned JRPG reviewers are tempering expectations.
Still going to play the hell out of this, but I’m glad to know the flaws going in. Would kill for another official Suikoden game.
Dude, this is definitely the closest you'll get to another Suikoden. It plays like Suikoden 6, really fun, really old-school, made by many of the guys who made Suikoden 1 & 2, with no silly corporate meddling or ensh*ttification for the sake of "modernization".
Would you really "kill" to get whoever still works on modern games at Konami to make a Suikoden game? This game is twice as good as that game would be. Konami can't even seem to finish/release their Suikoden 1|2 remasters, which were announced a super-long time ago. Much less make a brand-new, classic-level JRPG. Same with what they're doing for Silent Hill franchise ... all of it decidedly between "meh" and "OK". The good Silent Hill games will always exist in the past, and in our retro collections/ROM collections.
@@sonicmania9993I agree with this comment. This is as close to a new Suikoden we are ever going to get, flaws and all.
Haha it first time I ever heard too rare random encounters is downside xd usually everyone hates too often encounter. And dungeon can't be too short, it good to venture without fighting comone
And it's not even that low
Not the usual amazing Rev but the game don't deserve more than 7.5 and the gfx r something else! Tanx noisy
The combat is the main reason i love JRPGs and this combat system feels a bit basic, especially for a game with 100 characters
I’m about 6.5 hours in and a lot of this review resonated with me - it’s hard to describe in words, but that feeling of just “watching something play out” is right on the money. I also feel like it completely disrespects your time with the long-ass dungeons, the slow-ass run speed, the slow and clunky menus, and more.
I was really looking forward to this one, but I think it’s just not for me.
Oh equip the dash shoes on someone in your party. I do believe they increase the run speed. And thanks for taking the time to comment :)
7.5 is not a bad score. It's a "good score" actually.
It’s pretty good imo :P
So excited to play this on my Switch! Thanx for reviewing this Azario! This looks to be right up my alley. Even though the game doesn't look perfect, it still looks enjoyable.
Hell ya. It’s such a chill game
You know you do not have to use auto battle...js
I can’t believe they’re a season pass for this game not only that it costs almost as much as the base game.
Well, game is $50, and Season Pass for three future story expansions is $25. Not exactly "costs almost as much", at least as far as I understand math.
@@sonicmania9993 people like justifying this is usually what the problem is.
Hes looking at it from the perspective of someone who has been playing western RPGs for over 20 years, the main character being voiced and feeling like your more of a spectator would be a valid criticism if this were another western RPG, and this is a western indie publisher who mostly publishes western AA and indie games, as someone who plays both JRPGs and western RPGs i completely understand both sides
The Suikoden series has voiceless protagonists. I’ve played and enjoyed JRPGs since I was 11, I’m 34 now. I’ve played and own every western released entry in the Suikoden series, yes, even Tactics. I know what I’m talking about when I talk about something.
@@NoisyPixelNews The era of voiceless protagonists needs to die. Imagine how much more we'd care about Link if he had moments where he was a real character.
@@nworder4life I could not disagree more: for me, voiceless protagonists can be so much more effective than a voiced one that isn't written and acted *perfectly* (i.e. just about never). When my protagonist says something cringe in a voiced game, it really throws immersion of the game off ... but when it's voiceless text, cringe writing doesn't have nearly as strong a negative effect, and of course sub-par acting is a non-issue. With English voices, if it's not acted really well, I have to just turn voices to mute to enjoy the game.
However, this may be a generational thing. As a teenager in the 80s and young adult in the 90s, virtually all RPG protags were voiceless. People my age are used to it. But I can see how younger generations might want voiced, like shows we watch etc.
btw ... I could not possibly care more about Link! His voiceless persona is imprinted on my brain as a dominant gaming archetype, so cool, so many possibilities to imagine with him. Voiced would ruin it for me, 100% for sure.
@sonicmania9993 I was born in the 80's, so yeah, I'm used to it, but it's stupid. I want real characters that are perfectly crafted out, don't waste my time inserting myself into the role. Fun for little kids to imagine themselves apart of the story, but as an adult, I want a finely crafted story and characters designed to be a part of that world.
@@nworder4life Right -- as I said, it sounds like your preference is for a complete (or as you say "finely crafted") narrative, like a show we would watch. That's why cinematic AAA games are so popular with a large number of gamers: they feel like that's the kind of game adults should be interested in.
Different strokes! I'll take one of the better Zelda games over God of War or The Last of Us any day. Voiceless games are more "game-y", more imagination-spurring, which is the kind of interaction I've always preferred in videogames. Fully-voiced games are more cinematic, a style which definitely satisfies a big audience.
If an RPG channel is giving this game a 7, I'm a bit concerned.
Why? A 7.5 is above good. A 7 is good, a 6 is playable but mediocre, a 5 is just barely playable, but nothing special at all, and all below 5 is several degrees of failure. A 8 is brilliant, a 9 is impressively great, and a 10 is for a flawless masterpiece.
I think a 7.5 for this game is fitting to be honest. It's somewhere between good and brilliant...
Switch version almost unplayable... Hope it will be fixed soon, but tale of symphonia taught me to get my expectations low...
Not even slightly surprised. They wanted to do switch 2 originally
@@morriganrenfield8240 they should have canceled it then. Greed, greed, greed... Just like all the others studios, they're all the same anyway.
@@Basylicc It's not THAT bad, it's a little choppy walking around but graphics look good and battle feels fluid. Just the long load times are a let down.
@@nworder4life the game is really not fluid when walking, 7sc loading screen before battle, UI is a disaster... I watched the ps4 and ps5 version, they are way better (except for the UI...). The only good thing is that they gave a dl code because of the delay for the physical version. So, if in one month it is not fixed, I can keep the downloaded version on switch, sell the physical version, buy a ps4 version, and never trust them again.
Have you played a JRPG before? You always spectate. I don’t get the criticism. They aren’t a tabletop rpg
Look inward.
You said it's Murayama's adventure but not the player's, like it's a bad thing, nothing better than playing the game the creator of suikoden series had in his mind for a suikoden sequel
I conclude with I’m thankful that he let me go on the adventure with him. I agree. The game is great. - Azario
@@NoisyPixelNews well your main criticism is precisely the main reason why people should buy this game
Does this game have a lot of party interactions? I hate jrpgs that have a large cast that barely interact with each other.
The previews and trailers felt very mid, I see that's borne out. I'll play Unicorn Overlord instead.
Why title this "jrpg brilliance" then give it a 7.5. When you use a word like "brilliance" people are expecting an amazing must play game something you'd give an 9 or 10. I think simply calling it a good nostalgic jrpg would have been less confusing.
I already answered this. - Azario
The title is one misleading clickbait. By the content, it's rather "a nostalgic JRPG with some major flaws". But that wouldn't draw much attention, right? This is why people don't take gaming journalism seriously. Shame on you.
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I give this game a 9, unless the Switch version. Lol. It has performance and crash issues
I’m not being sold on this thank you for your honest review I guess I’ll wait for suikoden 2 remaster
Cash grab versus a new entry? Really? o_O
@@drowningin You calling Suikonden 2 a cash grab?
don't be stupid, buy the newest Suikoden game in everything but name. Murayama(Suikoden 2's creator/head writer) worked through all his health problems and died to make you this game.
@@taigaaisaka6305 a port by a company that has resorted to gambling machines, and remasters worse than the originals? Yes, yes I am
Not gonna lie this review was all over the place, you say its brilliant, yet it gets a 7.5. Also JRPGs are known for having little choice, so the whole "your choices don't matter" is just standard fare? If anything voiced protags and a strong vision is a good thing instead of the illusion of choice and a story that always plays out the same way despite you getting to say yes/no 50 times with no real change in the outcome.
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@@NoisyPixelNews Resepect for answering all the questions though, sorry if I come off as combative, keep up the good work!
Aah such a let down. I had high hopes for this game but I guess I will pass despite its gorgeous looks and fantastic cast.
Return to it! It’s a fun game
Aren't voiced protagonists very common in JRPGs? Like majority of Tales of Games and Final Fantasy games have voiced protagonist, and you're playing thourgh a linear story, so what's up with that?
This is a spiritual successor to Suikoden. I pointed this out before, but I’m starting to think not a lot of people have played Suikoden 😂
"It feels like you're experiencing someone else's story."
Have you ever played a video game before? Have you read any books? Have you watched any movies? We're always experiencing someone else's story. I'm baffled by this complaint in the video.
Yeah it's a lame take
Was really antipating this game, but really things sound a bit underwhelming.
It honestly sounds like a game I'll play for the nostalgia facter and then set it aside after 20 or so hours.
"How can you ALLOW your players to rely on an auto battle system" ...and you lost me. Too many devs feel like it's their job to dictate game play, which in my humble opinion is a common and terrible mistake. The games I've enjoyed the most after 30+ years of game playing are the ones that give the player the freedom to choose. I for one am extremely glad they "allowed" me to used auto battle.
A lot of the 'complaints' in this review were kind of positives for me. I like really narrative focused games with not necessarily a huge challenge, and I am super damn glad there's voice acting. I'd rather a beautiful polished, smaller world, than a huge open one. Open worlds can be done right, but it can also be a red flag for 'we used an ai to generate miles and miles of nothing'
@@jessefisher1809 I agree, I like a fun battle system (which I feel Eiyuden has, auto battle and all) But I'm really here for the story. I'm 40 hours into the game and keep falling more and more in love with it. I'm afraid reviews with less than 10 hours of game play time just won't get the brilliant, intricate weaving used to tell this story and miss the whole point. (I'm not assuming how much playtime this review has)
@@teasjams6895 I'm really enjoying it too, I'm just about to endure the siege.
Btw, not sure if you're playing on pc, but if you haven't already, for your own sanity, do not look on the steam community hub for this game, I'm not even kidding. Its so toxic there.
But on the positive side, we have 79% thumbs up. So thats telling me the majority of people actually playing it (as opposed to just complaining about something they heard) are enjoying themselves. Which kinda enforces, exactly what you just said.
Seems like a review from someone who abuses the auto-battle mechanic
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I have to disagree with the idea that the voiced protagonist “removes” the player. The only time I “feel” like I’m playing ‘myself’ is in a game where I create the character from scratch (Skyrim, BG3, etc.). Even games like LoZ I have always felt like I’m “controlling” the character, and the plot is already laid out to go through.
I don’t think I understand, you voluntarily played the game with auto battle and auto equipped items then complained that the game felt like it was playing itself? That’s like playing on easy and complaining the game was too easy.
The fact that people barely talk about this game says a lot after it got released.
7.5 score does not indicate a brilliant game or "must play"..
Why not?
7.5 on a world metric for reviews is the equivalent of very good. When you hear "very good game", that should be enough. But no, you must be one of those ign chat members that thinks everything below an 8 is a bad game. Even when IGN itself rates 7 as good.
His review scores have been consistently low for awhile now. Almost every great game will get a 7-8.
@@alienanxiety well not every game is GREAT or AMAZING. 7 is still good, and 7.5 is very good. Plenty of games deserve that score. This is why I hate scores. people don't look at the big bold text that says "VERY GOOD" and instead think everything is graded on 85-100 as good, and anything below NOT good. That just isn't how review scoring works.
I review A LOT of games, which means the way I ingest this medium is likely different than most who can just sit and enjoy games lol. I have a lot of points to review these games against, which might be nuanced in and of itself. I have a couple 8 and 9 scores coming out this week though :) - Azario
No player agency?! You are guiding the character of Nowa through his incredible story. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this how most JRPGs play out? Semi-linear narratives? Joker from P5 is a silent protagonist...but he is not me, and its HIS story. Cloud Strife is an amazing character along with many other JRPG characters with minimal player agency... Perhaps review western RPGs where you can attempt to create yourself in the game....?
Complaining about a main character talking is strange.
Yes, I know your reasoning.
More expensive on the Nintendo Switch than the PS5 and its on Xbox gamepass.
I’ve noticed that with a few games
Only on physical, digital is the same price.
For physical copy yes. But digital should be same price
@@SolidPython2099 I see. I didn't notice that. It still should be the same price. They passing over the cost to make it physical to Nintendo Switch users. Still not cool in my book
I hate when a game gets ported to switch so they charge like $50-$60 for it because it’s “new” when you can find old copies for ps4 on eBay for like $5-$10. (Borderlands, Overwatch, Skyrim, etc)
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This is a pretty terrible review.
Dungeons aren't that long, encounter rate your mileage my vary but I find it just great.
The complaint about autobattle is silly. The auto battle is just there to speed it up and existed in previous suikoden games under the "free will " option. You can fine tune it if you want. But I don't understand how having a QoL in a JRPG is a downside. As for "how can you let players rely on auto battle but then require them to understand strategy at boss fights?" maybe because the devs expect classic gamers, the people most likely interested in this, to have played a game before?
I know you said you've played the older games but this review doesn't sound like you have. There's no difference in the feel here than there was in any suikoden game. Nowa runs around, collecting allies inbetween story beats.
I understand everyone is going to have different opinions and different games are going to hit differently. But 7.5? Reviews are subjective and all but this is pretty bad imo.
Thanks!
this has to be one of the worst reviews ever done on this channel
All our reviews are 10/10, we would know, we scored them.
auto pilot? then turn off the auto lmao
If the game can be played in auto, then one would argue whether it’s a game at all. If it’s more fun to auto battle, there’s some kind of design issue.
@@Evanz111 more like a brain issue if you think auto is fun lmao its like calling a visual novel not a game at all cuz you only read it not playing it until it gave you to choose a decision just like in this game lmao
I've anticipated this game for so long but waited for reviews before pre-ordering. Now, I think I'll pass.
For me, the worst feeling is when a game feels like it's on auto-pilot, diminishing player involvement, decisions, and control. I'm the type that doesn't like games that are too easy, too straightforward. This looks like it's going to be more of an interactive book than a fun and challenging RPG.
Thanks for this informative review.
You can choose to use auto or not.
This style has existed since Suikoden.
@@shinnaginata5680 I meant where it feels like it’s on auto-pilot, where you don’t really have to think that much.
Silent protagonists are an antiquated holdover from a bygone era that needs to go away for RPGs to evolve. While it’s nostalgic and can sometimes be nice, it’s time to move on. If anything, have a setting/toggle to turn off voice for the protagonist so nostalgia babies can have their “… … …” “… … …” “… … …”. Dragon Age 2 did away with silent protagonists, Soul Hackers 2 had a well developed non-silent protagonist and Fire Emblem Three Hopes and Engage had decently developed protagonists with personality.
Suikoden has silent protagonists which is why it’s a point of my review. I’ve played (and physically own) every entry of the series that has released in the west.
@@NoisyPixelNews oh I’m not knocking your review just to be clear. I’ve played most of the classic RPGs from the 90’s and love them for what they accomplished in their time. I’m really glad that games like this and OCTOPATH echo the art styles of old because the art style is still an evolved 2.5D / HD2D. But silent protagonists in modern RPGs are just lazy to me and not very creative. Just my opinion though.
@zico1024 haha I think I’m on edge because people are taking my 7.5 as an attack on them lol
@@NoisyPixelNews haha nah you’re good. I still can’t wait to play it. You don’t get games quite like these anymore. Keep those reviews coming! Doing a fantastic job 👊
@zico1024 I agree. One morning I was playing and just drinking coffee just having fun spending a couple hours knocking out side missions. It was a lot of fun.
It's a complete game but they spent too much time on things that are not the most important in it, the battle system needs much refinement
I just played this for about 3-4 hours, and I'm not sure why the storytelling is weak. Also, the main character seems lack motivation.
I like your reviews, but this one repeats the same points too much.
Yea, well, ever since I guess I didn’t explain enough during my SaGa preview, I feel the need to overly explain things in these upcoming reviews. Also, I’ve been having a lot more fun with my reviews and not just copying the same format that I always have. If you had to play 5 40 hour games a month, you’d probably do what you could to have fun too. Thanks for hanging out. - Azario
It's extremely weird complaining about a voiced main character in a JRPG and saying it feels like you're constantly watching someone rather than playing. I personally like silent protagonists, but being voiced doesn't suddenly make me a spectator
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i used to watch you and take your reviews to heart but seeing how you're reacting to your comment section its a big pass. not even going to finish the video, looks like to me this is a paid review and you're trying to be sneaky about it combine that with you being very aggressive in the comments i seen enough
I get it, but we’ve always been pretty sassy. I wish we were paid to cover games ha. We make very little to nothing on this. Love you still
@@NoisyPixelNews the tone shift from a month ago to now Is laughable. I'm happy with my decision
7.5, too much party members
The biggest issue.
I hate random encounters
I’d recommend anyone watching reviews go watch a playthrough of the first 2 hours without commentary. You’ll find that these nitpicks are kind of BS…if you actually love retro jrpgs. If you don’t then this wasn’t made for you anyway.
the battle look boring 😢
Another "not persona 5" kind of review
I’ve never beat Persona 5 and don’t really consider myself a fan of that series -Azario
Damn. Looks like I'll be skipping. Boring battle and boring traversal vibes...
To be honest Grummz information is better than this review.
Stay away from this game if possible.
It's a 9/10 for me, 15 hours in ... but I'm an older gamer who enjoys this style of gameplay.
You're spoiling way too much of the story. Hard pass.
Nah
Why are some people are complaining about the Auto Battle??? Literally in Suikoden 2 most of the time you use Auto Battle to clear out trash mobs to.
bad mini games, old suikoden team is better at making mini games
Wow sounds like a complete let down. The only way to bounce back from this nerd devastation is for daddy Azario to get shirtless and B-BOUNCE in a vid for us(yes this isn’t a cheeky joke).
Jeezus Christ.
@@NoisyPixelNews 🤣🤣🤣🤣, also it’s Jesus christ. 😈😈😈
Thanks for the review. I mainly agree on the score. It's very good, but not GREAT, or on the level of its predecessor outside of maybe its worst titles. Which isn't bad.
I think it will provide this new developer with the feedback needed to make the sequel even better
Unless I’m misinterpreting your comment but saying it’s on the same level as Suikoden 4 is weird when that game is an actual slog to get through.
@@superblanco444 S4 is literally one of the shortest and easiest games in the series. I would say this game is a little more enjoyable than it, but doesn't reach the levels of any of the other main Suiko games. It's a bit generic even if it had been a game from the early 2000s.
So far the game FEELS like a Kickstarter game. Someone that is an homage to the original, but doesn't quite feel as polished or deep. I feel if I had to rate it so far in my playthrough, it's absolutely a 7.5. it's a good Suikoden clone, but not GREAT. I'd put it at: S2, S1, S5, S3, Eiyuden, S4. Mind you I liked S4, so again, it's good, just not on the level of the originals.