Wyrmblade VS Legionaries / Warhammer 40k Kill Team Battle Report
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Back with another kill team battle report, watch as we horribly mismanage your favourite teams.....
Legionaries VS Wyrmblade for the classic evil off.
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Wyrmblade Kill Team:
1x Neophyte Leader - Chainsword, bolt pistol (Cult Talisman)
1x Locus
1x Kellermorph
2x Neohpyte Heavy Gunners - Mining Laser & Seismic Canon (x2 Climbing Gear)
2x Neophyte Gunners - Grenade Launcher, Flamer (Spotlight)
1x Neophyte Icon bearer - Autogun, (Blasting Charge)
4x Neophyte Brood Adepts - Autoguns
Legionaries KIll Team:
1x Legionary Chosen - Daemon Blade, Plasma Pistol (Warded Armour) (TZEENTCH)
1x Legionary Butcher - Double Handed Chain Axe, Bolt Pistol (KHORNE)
1x Legionary Annointed - Daemonic Claw, Bolt Pistol (Krak Grenade) (KHORNE)
1x Legionary ShriveTalon - Flensing Blades,Bolt Pistol (KHORNE)
1x Legionary Gunner - Plasma Gun, Maelific Dagger (TZEENTCH)
1x Balefire Acolyte - Fell Dagger, Tainted Bolt Pistol (malign Scripture) (TZEENTCH)
START 0:00
MISSION 0:26
TERRAIN 1:03
WYRMBLADE KILL TEAM 1:28
LEGIONARY KILL TEAM 3:13
DEPLOYMENT/FIRST INITIATIVE 4:42
NARRATIVE 5:16
FIRST TURN 5:42
T1: STRATEGY PHASE 5:52
T1: FIREFIGHT PHASE 6:34
T1 RECAP 9:29
TURN 2 10:46
T2: STRATEGY PHASE 10:59
T2: FIREFIGHT PHASE 12:07
T2 RECAP 1 22:53
TURN 3 24:30
T3 STRATEGY PHASE 24:45
T3 FIREFIGHT PHASE 25:07
T3 RECAP 29:03
TURN 4 29:35
T4 STRATEGY PHASE 29:51
T4 FIREFIGHT PHASE 30:39
T4 RECAP 32:07
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Rules Edits:
Mission: - VP for Disconnected Firewalls wasn't added - both sides disconnected 2 each though so no change to the overall score - just +2 to both sides.
Barricades: - Can't be placed on terrain (unless 'insignificant')
You can place a Barricade over terrain, but only the extra one you get from Fortify on the Scouting phase.
Thats interesting to note
@@GFNGaming You're actually right, you cant place them on terrain, even the extra one granted in the scouting phase. This was FAQ'd in the first round
@@ChopsTV Can you point me to the FAQ where that is mentioned? Didn't find it from community site.
I have been absolutely starved for content of my favorite kill team! It’s awesome to see the chaos marines hit the field.
Forget the Werther's analogies; Ambassador, with these heart-shaped pebbles you are spoiling us!
Come for the game. Stay for the banter. Great stuff. Looking forward to the next one.
Beautiful Battle report. The Legionary got some unlucky rolls, but damn the Kelermorph is SCARY!
Cheers man, yeah man he can be lethal in that close range especially, although for sure some unlucky dice for the legionaries on their saves
The post-game analysis on what could of be done better is very helpful!
Russ, yet another incredible KT battle report! Everything from your narration to camera angles and scoreboards makes these such a great watch.
Most noticeably you’ve slowly been turning me into a GSC fan! I’ve been hardcore imperium through and through but it seems I’m starting to hear the Patriarchs call…
Yeeeessss! Join the cult 😄 cheers man, thanks for watching
Such good production and presentation. Thank you for spending time showing us positioning and other valuable information instead of just filming hands rolling dice.
Cheers bud, thanks very much for watchin them :D
First time watching a battle report for Killteam and what an absolute brilliant video, feel like I picked up the game rules alone just from this!
That's great to hear, glad it was helpful ❤️
Excellent BR as always. The quality is top tier and everything is very clear. Thank you for these BR and hope you can make this amazing content for a long time.
P.S.: I know this isn't narrative play, but your Narrataive Campaign is mindblowing!
Cheers man. Theyre still my favourite to make, have been loving doing the narrative campaign, cheers for watching it man
Hi, this is the best KT Battle Report I have yet to watch. Please do more! SO GOOD!
Cheers man, will do
Best kill team battle reports so far. Very good overview of the actions, always the rules that modify actions mentioned and what if scenariors for signifcant moves.
Easy to follow and entertaining --> you got a new subscriber :)
Nice! Glad you like the format cheers for subscribing :D
Great batrep, I really like your editing! You're easily the leader when it comes to making it clear what's happening.
I've noticed two rules errors: You can't place barricades on other terrain, and disconnecting a firewall gives 1VP by itself.
cheers man! thanks for the notes also, completely flew passed the VP for disconnecting during the game :D
@@GFNGaming Not a man but you're welcome ;p
Thanks for the batrep ^^
Those marks an arrows - AWESOME IDEA! I finally can see what is going on!
Thanks man, yeah I prefer that to videos with hands moving etc. can get a bit messy if you dont have a lot of room end up with a shot of the back of my head.
This is a really well produced BatRep! Keep it up and keep them coming! Loved it
Thanks I appreciate that
Great way of making batreps. Well done. Loved it.
Absolutely amazing report - GREAT intro (love the character sheets) and overall edits. Sad to see the outcome though, hopefully next time my guys got it ;)
Cheers bud, yeah was a rough debut
Another really phenomenal battle report! I always enjoy your content!
Cheers bud, thanks for watching!
Love everything about this format!
Another great video m8!!
Love all the things you do, to make all these videos so freaking enjoyable to watch! Keep up the great work m8! Can’t wait for the next video to drop 😊
Also I need to know, where did you get the custom dice rolling box?
Cheers buddy! I got it off etsy just checked and the store i got it from is no longer trading but when i was looking around there were a bunch doing dice trays with custom felt lining. I just messaged one asking if they could use my own design and they were happy to.
Awwww yeah, Sextoys vs Insane Space Butchers! lets go
Oh. Your battle reports are really clear and perfect prepare. Thx!
Cheers bud, thanks for watching
18:45 - Chosen men! 😂
I've been waiting to see the legionaries on the channel. love the kitbashes. excited for this one
Cheers man, its not an optimal team so i've got the official ones built up ready for painting so i can try out some different teams
Absolutely love these!! Keep it up!
Cheers bud
Good battle report. Looking forward to more.
Thank you for the great battle report!
youre welcome man, thanks for watching
Great battle report! Thanks for creating it. I think your style and video length is spot on to keep the viewers interest. Out of curiosity, which mat/board are you using? Which kit is it from? It’s quite nice.
Thanks! its from the wary cry catacombs boxset comes with a dual sided matt the other side is the lava one
always love your batreps! Forever outstanding in both quality and humor.
I think Legionaries as mostly melee is a bit of a trap and looking over the rules, I've gotta say I think running them as a ranged team and just taking a shrivetalon as Slaanesh instead of khorne (for the extra movement) to shut down an objective makes them far more dangerous. Perhaps a bit less fun though, which... yea just run them all Khorne melee, what am I even saying?
Hahaha laughed out loud reading this. You make a good point about the melee trap though
God, that Kellermprph is nasty
I hadn't realised just how good he can be, bit of a glass cannon with 8 wounds but still he can dish out the damage
The Wyrmblades seems a really competent Kill Team. Hope I get to face some in the future, give my veterans a run for their money
Big fan of the Wyrmblade, not just because of the narrative campaign. Think they play really nicely give you a nice mix of GA2, GA1 with 3APL. Got heavy hitters in shooting and combat -and some great tactics to play the mission and keep your low wound guys alive longer which is the only weakness i see them having as they are all about 8 wounds max. That being said i've not played all of the specialist teams yet - that is the aim though. Hunter Clade and Sisters Novitiates next up i think
Lovely Sharpe reference and good to see the wyrmblade in action! One nitpick though, is that barricade set up on vantage point or below it?
😄 yeah, I out a pinned comment about the rules edits can't out barricades on terrain, although someone mentioned you can if it's as a result of the fortify recon action but I'd not checked this yet
Love it great as always
Cheers bud
Yay! The return of the Plaguebearer! (Pauly the Plaguebearer? Does it have a name?)
HE LIVES! i guess he doesn't ... norm? ernie? what would you call it?
@@GFNGaming sounds like it's time for a community poll :P
Why is it that every Legionary player goes with Tzeentch/Khorne. Nurgle, my brothers, is the way!
Reasoning: I do believe that going with mark of Nurgle on at least some of Legionary models is the way against Horde teams. Against Elite you sure can skip it, but not when enemy outnumbers you nearly 2:1.
Tzeentch doesn't do much for you - extra APL ploy isn't going to compensate for enemy activations.
Disgusting vigour as the standard is a great boon. have been kitbashing some nurgle operatives to sub in (although the plan is to do this with all marks so i can give them all a try)
@@GFNGaming you definitely should. I mean, Nurgle gives so many nice things (in exchange for some warts and cough..):
1. retaining 1 crit against ranged translates to negating 2 normal dmg dice (since most often 2x normal DMG > 1x crit DMG). So, less chip damage from ranged.
2. strat ploy for negating 1 dmg on each normal attack dice can easily be life and death difference in melee. Especially on Anointed with his 5+ FNP. Compare that to Tzeentch invu save - invu is nice if enemy has tons of AP- weapons. If not, it does nothing.
3. other strat ploy for ignoring injured, APL debuffs and full BS overwatch - against Horde teams you should be able to use overwatch, so it is already great.
4. tactical ploy to decrease enemy Def - with well placed operative you are giving all your ranged guys practically extra AP-1.
I am not sure if "anti-horde" squad is whole Nurgle, or mix of Nurgle and Khorne (for combo of Hateful Assault and Perpetual Aggression to charge, kill, move, kill has such a potential), but I would definitely go in that direction. Definitely Nurgle on all ranged (so gunner, heavy gunner and balefire), most likely on Anointed. That leaves leader and 1 melee specialist marks to be decided.
@@r_4_k-drone4321 1. No, it doesn't, a crit only negates one normal damage dice. You can use 2 normal to negate crit, but not wise versa.
2. Tzeentch also has a second ploy, that gives you an auto success instead of a failed roll if you roll a crit on Defense. It's pretty much made exactly for situations where Invul is useless.
Not saying that Nurgle is worse than Tzeentch, it isn't, just that you got a few mistakes.
@@antongrigoryev6381 ofc, you are right, I was obviously over-enthusiastic with Crit saves part.
As for Tzeentch other ploy, we are working with Df 3, Sv 3+ on Legionary CSM. To benefit from this ploy you need at least one fail (because if no fails, then it is just wasted), and at least one crit. So it is what, 48 (might miscalculate here?) of 216 possible outcomes, 22%? Sure it is something, but I am not a big fan of it.
@@r_4_k-drone4321 It's still something though. And it's not that expensive - you get 1 free Strategic Ploy anyways. And the offense Tzeentch provides is really quite spicy, especially against 7-wound guys - crit on a 5+, even one per attack, may be a difference between killing the guy with a bolter or not. 4th APL is also pretty good - it won't totally make up for the difference, but will still help a lot, you can move, do objective and then shoot twice.
I'm speaking from the perspective of a shooting-focused team. If you want to mix in Butcher or Anointed, then Nurgle will really be better.
Awesome as ever!
Gotta say, love your custom legionaries!
Cheers man, got the official ones built up now just ready for some paint, then i can field a better team.
That was a rough one for the legionaries though I'm sure more familiarity with the team will help. I think perpetual aggression and hateful assault are key, especially against such a high model team.
I'm not convinced the icon is the way to go though, I'd go mark of khorne on the chosen for free perpetual aggression, and maybe make room for a heavy bolter
I think I like the neutral one because it feels like it has more use, if you're using PerAgg then you're 9/10 going to use hateful assault to attack twice anyway plus if you make room for a heavy bolter and you have an unalligned icon if you can't make a charge for watchever reason you wouldnt waste the freebie on per agg you could pick bolter discipline to shoot twice, You can still take chosen Khorne though so you would have the option to use the freebie for peragg regardless - think i need to try the legionaries a few times with some different load outs - lots of people seems to be saying nurgle is the way to go- or at least with higher model count enemies.
@@GFNGaming khorne on the chosen is as important to be able to use per agg on the model itself as it is to get the freebie ploy.
I can see the argument for the icon but there are so many useful specialists it's hard to drop one.
I've seen a lot of hype for nurgle too but I like tzeench on the heavy bolter to make p1 going off a little more reliable.
Ill be trying chosen, anointed, Butcher, shrivetalon (khorne) and heavy bolter, plasma gunner (tzeench) next game and I'm sure thatll probably change again!
Hey! Is it alright if I use the same layout for introducing operatives in my own battle reports? By that I mean the slider with the information on it displaying their weapons and stuff?
Love it! One question: how would you equip the icon bearer to substitute the butcher, pistol or bolter? Thanks
I think i'd go bolter, and unalligned. Debating dropping the gunner for heavy with heavy bolter to make better use of bolter discipline also.
@@GFNGaming I personally would go full shooting. Not sure whether it'll be effective, I just like shooting. Aspiring Champion (not Chosen) with plasma or bolt pistol, Plasma or Melta Gunner, Heavy Bolter, Balefire, Icon bearer, and one normal bolter dude. Though I guess you could take Srivetalon instead of the normal bolter dude if the enemy has lots of melee (Vicious Reflexes are great for defense), but I would focus on his bolt pistol. For marks - everyone goes either Tzeentch or Nurgle, and either Champion or Icon with Undivided (not sure who should get it. Champion will get more benefit from the Mark itself as his weapons are close-range, but he won't have defensive buffs from Tzeentch/Nurgle). This way Strategic Ploys will be maximized in effectiveness - 4-5 of the guys will benefit from Bolter Discipline and 5 of the guys will benefit from your God's strategems.
Oof. Good ole Elites getting melted.
Top batrep as always
Cheers man!
Definitely a misplay in roster for legion with Tzeentch over nurgle against wyrmblade. Especially if you aren’t going to combo off with 4APL when you get the option. Also some unfortunate dice but that’s how it goes.
Definitely agree the shrivetalon was misplayed could have lived that turn pretty easily if he had gone and hugged instead.
Its tough, i'd not learned their rules enough either to really suggest better moves, apart from Hateful Assault. Having looked at them more since playing I've heard good things about tooling up a 4APL heavy Bolter guy with suspensors system, move 3'' shoot shoot dash 3'''. Not looked much at nurgle yet though. Ive got a bunch of models ready for painting so i have more options what would be my custom chapter legionaries.
Unfortunately cannot have Tzeentch and Nurgle on the same roster
I've watched a bunch of battle reports with them, and I've yet to see the legionares win a single game.
I know we didn't show them at their best, been hearing a lot about using Nurgle against horde teams. Also i think we fell into the melee trap and in this edition melee is a hard game to play.
感謝你製作及分享影片
非常感谢您
Another ripper vid, more top hats please sir!
Next team will be full top and tails.
For the next time you record legionaries: in the last combat he actually gets 2 crits as he gains lethal 5+ when possessed
Ah that was just a mistake in the voice over, we played him as lethal 5+ after the turn. Think I missed it because it didn't matter
Another great game, I really enjoyed the terrain set up on this one, had to give you a shoutout on my latest vid to spread the word!. I'm currently painting my legionnaires up, it'll be interesting to see how they do!
Cheers bud! yeah i need to spice up the tiles. I've got plans to use the nachmund box terrain (which - i laughed out loud on your latest hobby video when you previewed it :D) to make some more tiles that i can cycle in with my current ones.
I think we made a mistake of leaning into their melee units - i would drop the butcher for an icon and i've heard good things about a heavy bolter - perhaps instead of the gunner or if you were feeling shooty - dropping the annointed to go more gun line. More experimenting required
@@GFNGaming heheheh yeah there’s a lot of Nachmund terrain for sure ! I’ll be busting out the airbrush for that one.
I mirror your thoughts regarding the legionnaires. I think multiple builds are viable but when Reddit says they’re meant to be a melee team, it gives me pause. I think there’s some very viable shooting builds, which I’m currently painting up first. I’ll definitely have a melee team as well, mainly for the shrivetalon although as a general thing, I’ve always found melee to be a bit inefficient for elite armies- it’s way too easy to lose wounds in your own activation. Also, I absolutely love the butcher model and will try him out but his rules makes me scratch my head a bit, I’m not convinced he’s anywhere near as good as Warhammer Community tried to make out!
19:45 Why the Legionary player didnt use one normal save as a benefit from cover? Are there any special rules or is it just a mistake?
No, we just forgot. Luckily he passed them all so it didn't matter.
Greeeat
What gamemat do you use?
It's from the catacombs warcry box, other side is the lava catacombs side
Dem genestealers play just like the commando orks
Production value is great. Keep it up
Awesome and fun bat rep!
Cheers! thanks for watching