5 Signs You Should Leave Your FC in FFXIV
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0:00 Intro
0:52 Gossip & Drama
2:04 Activity Levels
3:41 Feeling Left Out
5:47 Control & Coercion
7:03 Something's Not Right
7:45 Finding a New FC / Community
9:23 Outro - Hry
A lot of FCs seem to have an "inner circle" of a couple of people that have known each other for years, and don't really care much about anyone outside of it.
You should try to find small FCs (and I mean really small, still establishing) as a sure way to become part of something is to be there from the beginning!
@@Nikimoney86 true that. Personally I don't really want to be the first in command, but being the second in command is far better for me.
Oh snap that's how it was in this one discord I went to
pretty much why i have left so many and have gotten to the point i dont really bother anymore. so many guilds dont actually feel like guilds.
oh exactly where im in rite now
The problem with FCs is the honeymoon phase wears off really fast. They act super friendly at first and then they totally forget who you are shortly after.
That's pretty common problem not only in FC's but also with people you meet in the game in general. For example you meet some "friendly" players in dungeons and they add you to their friend list and then guess what? They will never talk to you again... -_-
I got a long, very long "honeymoon phase", I went south, very south.
@@mystic865 When I run across someone on my friend list, even if I don't recall what we were doing together that caused us to be friends, I go out of my way to wave or jump or something to acknowledge him or her. I usually get a response in kind before we both just keep doing whatever we were doing.
Been there
If this is a problem you repeatedly experience then you should join smaller, more social FCs. Bigger FCs aren't necessarily better.
You could always just make your own, as well. It's a lot of work to run well, though.
Serious note to this to add. Don't be so fast to judge FCS qualities within a one or two day period and leave when you are having expectations. Give them the chance within a REASONABLE time frame.
If people talk shit behind each other, thatâs a red flag.
If people talk shit in front of each other, thatâs a green flag.
What if people pull down their pants and take a shit in front of each other? What then?
@@CaptainJackedPickle yellow flag, proceed w/ caution and watch your step? lol
@@CaptainJackedPickle Brown flag, of course.
@@matteoar unless it's a red flag, I which case a red flag for you both.
@@hentaidude666 if yours is red I'd suggest contacting your doctor ASAP.
It's true that there are a ton of FCs in the game but 90% are really tiny groups of friends. It's incredibly hard to become part of their circle.
I want a large community (100+ people) of very active and talkative players. The thing is that the average age of FFXIV players seems quite high. A lot of people have full time jobs, families, pets, other obligations meaning the whole nolife culture from our teenage years is kinda gone. I miss that.
I work full-time still play for quite a few hrs everyday
Work work 12 hour days and have 3 kids. I miss it too đ
You can still no life you just need a cult following willing to support you like most twitch streamers.
As one who fits the description of an "older player" with the whole life+kid+work combo with about 2 hours to play a day, I'm thankful for the older average age of the playerbase. Like, in a dungeon if I need a minute because kid, people are understanding. On the other hand, I don't know what I'll do about endgame content since I'll probably never be able to join a static, as I can't commit the time
No people who think they have all the responsibility only because they think it cool to be busy smh đ€Š but it not cool it laziness that u Don't originze there time, I also have a full time job but I play ff14 everyday well not everyday but I play it a lot.
Ohhh, I see. ***nods in free trial***
x2
XD
Think about his much money you are saving!
For real, man!
I couldn't even message a random healer who res'ed me twice in a dungeon!
And the second time was cos l waved in thanks like an idiot, immediately after the first!..... -facepalm-
I left mine because literally nobody talked in it
Been there before. Felt like I was talking to myself most of the time.
People have a bad habit of prioritizing discord to in-game chat. I think there should be a healthy balance so people who choose not to use discord don't feel like they live on a deserted island and can still chat with others.
@@xanderharris4047 true
I left mine because was expected to help others...but when i needed help, silence. I dont appreciate being used.
@@xanderharris4047 problem is when there is nothing going on in either
Reason to leave: When leaders do not have enough of a spine to remove toxic people from their space.
Or when the leader himself is toxic
Great points about FCs. Find one fits you. There is no need to feel pressured into doing anything you don't want to do. I can promise you that there is a group out there for you!
The "Feeling Left Out" part of the video is actually great social advice in general, including irl. Honestly I've come to accept over the years that taking too many steps towards building those social bridges is just not who I am, and I focus pretty much exclusively on a small group of really good friends for my social needs. But now I know that that's okay because it's what I want, honestly. I used to feel a bit bad for not going to a lot of parties and not noticing a lot of... social life around me, I guess. But eventually I realized what Zepla says here - this stuff isn't handed to you in a silver platter. So I put in the work exclusively for the people that I really, really like. I even made a Discord exclusively for us even though some of these people barely play much of anything. And I've been maintaining it with them and it's one of the best decisions I've made in regards to my social life. We talk weekly, we play games occasionally, join video calls to do and say whatever.
Then when it comes to meeting new people and going to parties with no one I really know... I'm just like eh. Probably not. Too many of those parties have already gone by where I felt bored or uncomfortable for the vast majority of it. So I've learned that those are not for me and I'll just cherish my closest friends.
In FF XIV, occasionally I'll send messages to people, like if they have a name that references something I like, or if I like how they look, or honestly if I just need help. I chat for a short while and then leave it to them to message me back later if they want to. Anything more than that honestly sounds like too much work to me lol
I remember leaving mine because no matter what we did be it events, mount and map farms, raid teaching or even just general chatter. There was only a maximum like 3 people outside of the leadership team which even half of them wouldn't show up, who would actually participate. I essentially left cause there was no feeling of community at all
After going though so many bad situations with terrible FCs and toxic people, I ended up meeting my best friend in a random Suzaku farm party I had pushed myself to join. And I've never been happier to be honest. People don't realize that even though this is just a game, the way you treat people has a massive impact on their mental state. And it really makes you wonder what must be going on in peoples' heads to treat others so badly.
Nevertheless, my best friend and I started building a community of good people. People who enjoy the company of others and doing fun stuff together. And over the months we've been going strong. Thanks to the community finder, we've made friends with 16 new people in the past few days. And you actually showed our community name "Late Night Friendos" in the video! The Major General is our mascot, hence the massive shark picture xD
Loved the video as usual, Zepla. Keep up the great work â„
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Although inspiring your post nevertheless brought a tear in my eye. Mainly because i'm kind of going trough a fase like this in the game atm. I used to have a group like this when i played WoW way back then and we even became irl friends and had bbq togheter.
The anonimity online often makes people forget that they are talking to fellow human beings and they very often show there worst side.
Also a lot of players like myself can play a game to escape their irl troubles even if it is just for a few hours, so this behaviour can really be detrimental for us.
During my time in WoW i made friends with several players that declined doing some activities togheter, like long raids, because in fact irl they were terminal cancer patients for whom such activities are too tiring. So they were mostly socials.
So yeah you never know what can hide behind that cheerfull dancing lalla you see in the game.
When they wave at every person who logs in except for you lol
Iâm literally struggling with that right now :/
ughh same.. đ§
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Lmaoo welcome to the club
Iâm starting to kinda go through that and I even say hi to everyoneâŠ. also the ones that did say hi before arenât now.
i've honestly contemplated leaving mine when the leader switched my role to betrayal just bc i didn't notice something in the chat bc i was in the state of mourning a childhood friend who had recently passed away. the leader apologised to me but i have yet to be moved from that betrayal status thing. like i'm sorry but it rubbed me the wrong way. i just haven't left it yet for god knows whatever reason. i probably should. this video was a reminder for me to do so. thank you.
Why are you still with them? You shouldn't even need to contemplate it
I'm sorry for your loss. I don't know anything about FCs bc I've never been in one but I think it's really petty and weird to get a status like that after just ONE incident...
I wish you the best and hope that you make a decision soon that will make you happy đ
i think its strange that they call it "betrayal" o.O
leave. specially if that happens to members more than once. that's dumb and manipulative
@@Sky-de7oy yeah, that just sounds extremely controlling.
So much of this advice goes for any online community, not just FCs.
one i was in was pretty much a horde of inactives that in some cases had not logged in for over 2 expansions, the ones active were a mix of silent ghost like members and a small group of officers who only ever did stuff with each other yet always promised to do stuff for new recruits...but that never happened...just wasnt worth putting effort in anymore.
Mine is very similar to this. And its been this way for a while now.
When that happens maybe bring it up to officers, if they still don't do anything after you ask, then get out of there
I normally would, but they're barely on, and when they are, its during times when the rest of us aren't
When you are trying to help your company by helping with things like crafting items for members, furnishing for home or pumping out levekits to help bolster the available crafters in your company, running content with any member, but that is not really appreciated.
Yee. Just don't anymore. Easy.
OOOF
It's been a while since i've been FCless . Friends would be nice, but finding a good group is way too much headache
But if i ever try to find one again, i"LL avoid big ones for sure
Same.
Crystal Dynasty on Famfrit is toxic please steer clear of it
I think Iâve seen them around while world hopping to find better deals on the MB. What exactly is wrong with them?
Tea!!
My friend and I got really lucky and found a small group of people two years ago! We have been happy ever since, there may be only 12 active members but they feel like family and they took us in like we were already had been friends for years.
I'm debating leaving mine since the only stuff that really goes on amongst people is just the inner circle of two statics doing savage and then nothing with anyone outside of it. I miss being able to do stuff with people I felt were friendly but since I missed the chance to join either statics I'm just on the sidelines
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SCREAMING. Oh my God I relate this so so so so much. I literally just had the WORST experience with genuine gaslighting 2 months ago and was made to feel SO DUMB AND SO BAD. It was so bad.
Aww honey that sounds awful :( Iâm sorry
Sorry you had to go through that
Nothing get's me more angry than gaslighting.
I turn into a snapping turtle !
*Hugs*
i've been questionning myself this for a moment now, best of time for you to upload about that!
This is actually a great video and being a older player i can very much say that you will have to build up the courage to either talk to others or leave. With experience of past FCs that did "talk" they did not listen and became toxic which has made me leave along with others.
A friend sent me the point about reviving it. I for one want to revive it and they agree with my points but idk how to go about it. How do I do this?
I Donât get into +100 people FCs cause most of the time (in my experience) only like 20 or 30 are active at a time. And even then nobody talks, maybe thatâs the main problem with FCs, nobody talks.
Good day whenever zepla uploads videos! â€ïž
I play on Spriggan, and I have tried to apply to new FC's that are more active on the community finder, and never got a single reply once... It almost feels as if there are no FC's on my server apart from one or two? Should I transfer worlds?
Yeah spriggan sucks
1. They put up the wrong buffs
Simple as.
I feel that. I wish I saw Mark Up more often, since most of what I do when I log on is PvP and it's my main source of gil, glamor, prisms, furniture, etc. Most of the time, it's just not there.
like do they not evenknow how much gil we could be saving on telelorts??
When they dont put up teleport fee buff x.x
@@standardheadache how do u eaen gil in pvp?
@@rosedragon3498 buy Teleport Tickets with Allied Seals.
I remember when I had a group of friends in a different game and we talked daily in discord and then we all went different ways with time and I realized it was like a heart break for me. I missed them so much.. Atleast 6 months after too. Then I knew what friendship really is. We dont talk anymore but I hey they are doing great and I still love them all đą
But I hope *
You forgot one thing. If none of the FCs you looked into had what you are looking for MAKE ONE YOURSELF. Especially if you have friends.
Those apply pretty well to relationships too XD
Can't leave something you don't have.
I dont think I would leave mine I've met some lasting friends in it. I know those friendships would remain but the thought of having to try and find a place in another community is daunting to say the least. Firefly is where my heart is
Brilliant, thank you! And very timely too actually... I'll check out the community finder no later than today :-)
These same problems i try to avoid in any games with Guilds/FCs/Clans/Etc. Which is why i set requirement bars low when i run them even on AFK arena- so that people can feel free to come and go, or be active at their own pace w/o even being required to mandatory donate. Even though every bit of support from other members help, i try not to overencumber people with requirements. And this can even be reflected as such on games i play like clash of clans, idle goddess, etc. In part cause i don't like how toxic i get when i get super competitive about things but also because i try to be considerate of others as i don't know what life is like outside of the games... I would sooner shoulder burdens alone, so they don't feel demanded a lot of. Granted i am a bit of an introvert.
I just switched FCs myself recently, many of the things you mentioned in this video were felt. Though i suppose the patch transitions do affect activity after all. But then i mainly left because i met new people that had fun without just worrying about the next thing to farm, but just sitting around and role playing sometimes. That just hooked me up.
I left mine because it got so so toxic. I wanted to make more friends but a few people constantly exuded negative energy : (
"You gotta put in a little more effort Chief."
LOL you're amazing! đ
Great video! I left mine because the "clicks" were strong and obvious.
Have you ever thought of doing a "Unwritten rules of FFO"? I believe that it would be a good video. Apologies if you have and I missed it.
Professor Zepla, this was a very good breakdown of FCs. You really sound like a counselor or teacher lol.
âLet it goOoO!â *kicks dwarf*
yikes this is gonna hit home, ive been thinking about it lately
Thanks for the video Zepla this helped a lot especially at 3:41
You know the friendly banter thing is not something difficult. Like a lot of people start doing that immediately. But that's problematic to me cause I need to get to know people before I can tell this friendly banter apart from actual trashtalk.
This. Also fits for new "friends". If friends banter it can be fine. If new guy banters it's just being asshole.
I had someone banter me in-game, "joked" about my char. I felt really bad and didn't talk to the person for week because I thought they were like that all the time.
That's not something you do with everyone. There needs to be trust and friendship, so that the other one can assume it was not meant as an insult. And that takes time. So if someone does it immediately, it's more likely that it's in fact a sign of toxicity.
@@SurrealLeaf I tried it so many times tbh. And every time I say thats rude I get told "you need to learn to take a joke".
@@MilkAndSugar16 I tried it so many times tbh. And every time I say thats rude I get told "you need to learn to take a joke".
@@cocolanfofolan2508 That's sounds indeed toxic. Like gaslighting. If someone does not respect it, when you say 'stop', you better not spend time with them.
I really really needed this. Thank you
Zepla has convinced me to start making ff14 content on a new channel :P there's so much to share with new players
Good luck with your channel!
Please do!
Any active FCs on Kujata. Im from Aus. Just levelling at the moment.
Any way to open more then 1 chat window?
What armor is Zeplaâs character wearing in this?
so much of this applies to other gaming communities too. it's so important to find people you vibe with.
As a solo player who has been considering joining one, this is a great video
Hi Zepla! Just started and found your channel really useful. If you don't mind me asking, are you from Louisiana at all? Your accent is very distinctive. Sounds like its from the Acadiana region
I have been a part of a few FCs and outside of 1 where I was a part of for a while, I feel I was wasting my time being in them because I lean toward more of the casual FF XIV player in that I mainly just do the main stuff like the MSQ, raids, trials etc and none of the side stuff like crafting and housing since that is not really my thing. I am sure there are a lot of good FCs out there and there might be one that would suit my play style but I just rather be a lone wolf at the end of the day.
Lovely video, very rational and down-to-earth advice :)
Throughout my five years of playing, I've only been in two FCs. I left my first one (which I think merged with another one so they don't exist anymore?) around patch 3.3 and joined the one I'm currently in immediately afterwards and like. Weirdly enough I've never really felt the urge to leave it? Maybe it's because I've been part of it for four years now and even if it's quiet sometimes I feel like I owe a lot to the people there. The primary rule is just "Don't be an asshole" simply because members are from various walks of life.
Maybe I was just lucky.
These sort of groups work out more often when you can go on full scale war campaigns together I feel, maybe one day
Questions are always asked once you left sadly.
Well, if you haven't said anything till that point, then yea ofc they gonna ask it once you left. But if you actually said somethings wrong and it was ignored, then yea.
They spoke French. Can't feel guilt if I can't understand them. Never advertise yourself as British, staying as English speaking for an hour before busting permanent french. I'm a dragoon, my brain capacity is too small for a second language. I gotta focus on my jumps and the floor
@@muhc2931 if your brain capacity can only handle FFXIV then u could learn a language. its just something that doesnt interests u like a MMO does.. which i can relate.. but dont doubt yourself !! lol
One of my members gave me like 4M Gil just cuz I said I wanted a house in our discord đđđ but there were no available at that point đđđ
I keep visiting this video from time to time. Today, after I watched it, I realized that I recently got out of a really toxic group of people in 14, and this video reassured me a lot.
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Everything you said here can be applied to every social group in game or out of in perspective to being a part of. And itâs applies.
Im so distracted by how good Zeplaâs hair looks in this video. Iâm normally oblivious to such things but when I notice them I canât not notice it and my brain starts to wonder if the change is random or if maybe an event is happening that I donât know about.
I have been struggling with this very thing for over a month now. I want to leave but feel sort of stuck now after inviting everyone to an eternal bonding ceremony that will be held in a few days. I know I should leave but it's difficult T_T
I mean, you could always leave immediately after if you still want to leave after that
I left mine cuz my circle left and shortly after a month I had thoughts . But after that I left I felt free but 0 reason to do much aside from dalies and occasionally savage ( still never cleared yet )
I'm still trying to find one :/ its hard when you've been burned...
Are you on malboro? If so I'd like to introduce you to our Lord and savior Steve the goob
What amour is that in the video
Sign number 1: You're even thinking about it.
If you're thinking the community isn't fun then you just leave instantly.
I'm kinda thinking about it. I like the members, but the leader I have had several headbutting issues. She seems to be an enabler of poor gameplay. I comment on a horrible dungeon run in pugs and get raked over the coals because I can't stand curebots. Like WTF? Its a level 50 dungeon, they know better.
This video actually has a lot of good advices for guilds in general. I just hope everyone can find the right place to stay
One of the officers stole from me (allowed me to plant seeds I had bought, wouldn't allow me to harvest, didn't give me the seeds when they harvested right in front of me). Plus major inactivity. Bye.
thats GOTTA be reportable
Was thinking about leaving this seems like a sign lmao
Now to set up my discord and see if it wants to work LOLOL. Yay! Bun Patrol!!!
I left the one that I had been in basically since I started playing just last year and I'm so thankful I left...all I'll say is, I wish this vid was around long before I left doe, the first point you make especially is so true !!
same and it was almost like they were just rooting for me to leave.
@@SR-Ahri I hope you found something better!!!
"Activity level" Mine is dead and I love it! XD
I'm always kicked because of how i tend to play. I go for like heavy play for a few weeeks then stop for several weeks only to come back and find i have been kicked.
you should let the leadership know that you play like that when you join, then they can decide then and there if they wouldn't mind having you in the slot, and you won't have to find out later that they don't, or wonder if they assumed that you had become inactive
Glad I could be of assistance. đŻ
Sometimes , ye just need some clarity. Thanks Zeppie, ye helped me change my mind about thingies ^_^
I need a new one.
I'm just stagnant and so don't feel motivated to even log on any more.. It's like what's the point got no one play the game with.
If you need someone to play with itâs probably time to take a break for the game more likely
There's tons out there, I'm in a small one and we just kinda b.s and use it for social stuff. :p small fcs are pretty legit
im on the free trial should i get the real game? or should i wait until the free trial finish and then decide ?
I would say yes it's a really good game and everyone is super nice. Once you get passed level 50 it gets a lot better. But at the end of the day it's your decision if you think it's worth paying 12.99 per month for it
this came up on my youtube literally as soon as I was contemplating leaving mine that hasn't been active for years, this video helped me to leave it cause it's one of my friends FC's
i remember playing Tank in a raid i did for the first time and one of my Clan members told me "go play DPS" after i failed someting :D literally worst insult he could have said
I'd have said something between "Go Get Fucked!" or "Way to be supportive, Asshole!" Loudly. So others chimed in.
Damn, thought you were talking about a relationship for a second lolol đ
There were too many lurkers and quiet people in mine. Only like two dozen people spoke despite the 200+ members
Your videos inspired me to go back and play ff14, but unfortunately I get a launch error when I try to patch the game for some reason and 3 days now no respond to my support ticket. Really sucks when they force you to subscribe to even try to download the game meaning I've wasted 3 days of subscription time so far rip.
They need to fix their launcher if they wan't more people to play the game.
Your videos are seriously THE MOST helpful on CZcams!
I have been through so many fcâs throughout all of primal i thought i finally found the one and stuck with them for half a year but relised tht they didnt click with me
And now im back to square one for the well allot of times i lost count lol
07:04
AN ILLUSION.. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING!?
WHO GOES THERE?!
How do I even leave tho??
All of this also sounds like good relationship advice?
The best way to connect is doing content together!
Have good talks, be open to their opinions, also state yours, learn to be diplomatic and learn the limits.
Also know when there's people that won't understand your humor or how you socialice, if that doesn't click with you, maybe decide to keep looking for another group!
Best way is to look through social websites, circles or content groups - or reach out to players you've made friends with
Wait, youtube videos can have chapters?
It's been a thing for a while now, timestamps in the description make them happen! :D
Huh I've never been this early to a new video. Cool.
I'm finding it hard to be part of much of the social experience due to my constant shifting work hours, So I'm in a situation of I wanna be more social but have a hard to being it xD
Discord.
As a new sprout in FF14 I really appreciate your super helpful videos! Thanks Eh!
Man your videos can't miss
i was in one for 2 years.... msot of the time i stayed becasue i felt guilty abou leaving and wehen saying i didn't appreciate the jokes made about me i was told " We joke about everyone here it's fine"
eventually i managed to leave and felt so abd about leaving the few friends i got that was still there.
I love Zepla so much it makes me wish I still try and level any class but DPS. I like easy.
Yeah weebs I know itâs a âjobâ in this game
i been solo since 2.0, and still did everything.
I havent even been able to join one lol!
I want to join one but Iâm a free trial player đą
FC's that proclaim words like "family" always make me uncomfortable...
"Family" = we're a close knit group and you will struggle to fit in with us.