Might want to walk up on the target, swinging normally, to differentiate between the target and all the background noise, falsing, iron contamination, and EMI causing the detector to respond erratically. Sure, the detector makes a noise over the target, but would you have stopped to investigate the target? Or would the target blend in with all the other audio noise? That's the key. The detector can be adjusted to be sensitive to the target. Still, that detector setting is not useable in the real world due to the over-amplification of everything that is not the target. You are looking for which detector can be adjusted for the soil and EMI conditions to avoid unwanted noise and still hear the target the best. So, try walking up a couple yards back from the target, swinging the detector naturally, and see how well the coin signal "pops" in relation to the non-coin audio that is also "popping."
Thanks Johnny anglo, I did try this and will try and show in future, deus 2 is the calmer of the two out in the field. We were out today in a quite field and I could run the manticore at 31 briefly but as soon as the ground turned busy I was back down to 25/24 to keep the machine stable without running a heavy disc. I like to run the machine in all metal but have been experimenting with using the ferrous limits but problem is not all targets appear on the centre line so you will miss stuff, thanks for watching😊
good test man.. how's your machine react to the ground if your recovery speed of 3 on mandingo? Does sensitivity of 26 to 28 can detect that coin too? with less noise
Recovery 3 would’ve been better on that target but slower response between targets to hunt with so personally I’d only use 3 on a hot spot, I think 28 would’ve got it as well yes👍 thanks for watching😊
Manticore is on my bucket list, owned a Nox 800 and great machine, only thing that bugged me was iron grunts on deep targets and the Manticore seams to have same issues where the. D2 as no iron grunts on the deep stuff, yes you can change frequency on the Nox 800 and switch to give you better idea but still prefer the D2 over it, I do like that 2D screen ID on the manticore, fun watching your tests 🥳🥳🥳
Thanks windsurfing addict, the manticore definitely handles depth better than the nox 800, I used to get the same with the nox 800 calling iron on deep targets and that’s what I love about the d2 it gives you a good response all the way around the hole but the tones on the nox were stronger, you really have to listen on the D2, it’s like the nox was running audio response 7 without amplifying the ground as well, cracking machine and from what I have seen so far the manticore is and improvement but it’s not perfect, appreciate the comment thanks👍
@@DIRTBROSDETECTING Mark Lawrie said they are adding another menu for iron. So they're not changing anything, only adding an additional feature. First software update!
@@DIRTBROSDETECTING Glad you agree that the Nox 800 called deep targets iron, other people have disagreed with my findings but when you have used a machine for a good while you find the what you like and not like with each machine, my old Fisher 75 Ltd was the same on deep targets, yes I loved both machines, I totally agree the D2 tones are not the best but still give good tones all be it quiet and squeaky on deep stuff, I don’t use pitch as I’m not as good with it as two or 5 tones, I would like to use full tones but again find it’s not very good compared to what see on say the Legend and the new Simplex ultra, Legend is on my bucket list as fantastic for the price and I have decided against the Manticore purchase in current software configuration and to expensive for me, enjoyed watching 😊😎😎
@@Windsurfingaddict would love to try the legend on the hammered coin I have buried in the garden, the manticore is seeing it but is favouring iron tone, maybe because it’s pulling iron in close where the d2 gets it, and yes I’ve had many a deep target on pasture past 13” where hammered coins have been good one way and turn on it and calls iron, glad your enjoying the content👍 more out tomorrow😊 thanks for watching👍
Thanks History Revisited, the hammered is a 42 on the manticore and 56 roundabouts on the D2 out the the ground, looking forward to you testing the manticore.. enjoy your channel and thanks for watching👍 new video out tomorrow with more comparisons
The Lizzy’s id is being pulled down due to the ground and depth, the coin is on the edge of detection so they read low, the manticore is doing the same thing. When searching deep targets best to keep an eye on the ferrous bar and listen for the faint clear whispers and not worry too much about id’s👍
My Golden Mask 7 is a deep seeking machine it would have no trouble getting that coin it would be interesting to see if the Deus 2 can get the same depth as the Golden Mask 7
Thanks goldfingerbeats, jury’s out on the ground balance in mild soil as stated in the user manual and yes deep also got it with ease so good shout and thanks for watching👍
To early to tell, I’ve only 20ish hours on the manticore and it’s obviously a very deep machine, probably deeper than the deus 2 in the right conditions, one thing I have noticed is in the field the deus 2 seems to ignore iron compared to the manticore? It could be the old there’s no one machine for every job! Right now I wouldn’t want to lose either machine but if I had to pick one to find a specific target I would go D2 just because I know it better but the manticore has something special in there.. just need to learn it and that’s half the fun for me😊👍
For anyone thinking about up grading to a Deus 2 or Manticore. I was out with the D2 yesterday hunting with a friend who swings the Nox 800. Things were pretty even at a very iron infested site... until... he asks me if I think it would be a good idea if he switched to his 4" coil... (same coil will work the Manticore). Well. he really saw some nice results...... I retired a year ago and swing at least 4 days a week weather permitting. From where I am standing no contest... until and if Deus comes out with a similar coil. Love the D2 but I will pissed if we don't see a sniper coil soon! Very well matched machines... unless your in heavy iron with 4" coil vs a 9" coil.... EOM
Spade shovel pointer and other detector close by. Buckles on shoes. Loads of things to interfere. Love my 800 but its going. Manticore is just catching not fishing. Fingers crossed im going get on with d2
They are both great machines and hard to go from one to the other.. minelab tones are strong and deus has its own language, hard to choose between the two
@DIRTBROSDETECTING just gave you a sub, don't want to miss the test when you do it, I find if you run the manticore too hot you get a lot of noise feedback from the ground, masks deeper targets, I've owned a Manticore for about a month, very quickly worked that out, if you watch my vids using the manty you'll see I run at 20 or less most of the time.
@@somersetsearchers thanks, I’ll sub you back and take a look. I will give this a try for sure.. a lot of my land isn’t that busy but like the nox I used to knock that right back in heavy iron which gave great results. Also found my manticore is behaving different lately but that might be the saturated ground I’m on at the minute, interesting stuff😊
I can't see no difference in my minelab or tesoro detectors to be honest other than a load of bells and whistles flung in to try and keep the customer happy
Para eso que es húmedo pon el relic respuesta al 0 97 de sensibilidad respuesta al 5 toma tierra ese suelo tiene mucho mineral y humedad por lo tanto el relic es el mejor para ese terreno luego tengo m programa que es una pasada pasado por un gran ingeniero,luego no hay comparación en playa el deus 2 deja en playa por los suelos a el meticore y a cualquier detector puede que meticore en campo agarre una moneda grande a 3 o 4 centímetros más pero eso ya está el deus 2 es una maravilla en playa es el mejor con diferencia y en campo va de muerte.
I agree, but if you were in a good area or hot spot you would dig it, but I’m suprised the ground is pulling the vdi down so much as I’ve had 14+ hammereds with the nox that has given me a 14/13 one way signal and iron the other, but the manticore is clearly hearing it so ground conditions are key, thanks for the comment👍
Hi ,very good test!
Might want to walk up on the target, swinging normally, to differentiate between the target and all the background noise, falsing, iron contamination, and EMI causing the detector to respond erratically. Sure, the detector makes a noise over the target, but would you have stopped to investigate the target? Or would the target blend in with all the other audio noise? That's the key. The detector can be adjusted to be sensitive to the target. Still, that detector setting is not useable in the real world due to the over-amplification of everything that is not the target. You are looking for which detector can be adjusted for the soil and EMI conditions to avoid unwanted noise and still hear the target the best. So, try walking up a couple yards back from the target, swinging the detector naturally, and see how well the coin signal "pops" in relation to the non-coin audio that is also "popping."
Thanks Johnny anglo, I did try this and will try and show in future, deus 2 is the calmer of the two out in the field.
We were out today in a quite field and I could run the manticore at 31 briefly but as soon as the ground turned busy I was back down to 25/24 to keep the machine stable without running a heavy disc.
I like to run the machine in all metal but have been experimenting with using the ferrous limits but problem is not all targets appear on the centre line so you will miss stuff, thanks for watching😊
good test man.. how's your machine react to the ground if your recovery speed of 3 on mandingo? Does sensitivity of 26 to 28 can detect that coin too? with less noise
Recovery 3 would’ve been better on that target but slower response between targets to hunt with so personally I’d only use 3 on a hot spot, I think 28 would’ve got it as well yes👍 thanks for watching😊
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Thanks
Saludos desde México del roony mucho exito en sus busquedas
Thank you, thanks for stopping by and good luck😊
Manticore is on my bucket list, owned a Nox 800 and great machine, only thing that bugged me was iron grunts on deep targets and the Manticore seams to have same issues where the. D2 as no iron grunts on the deep stuff, yes you can change frequency on the Nox 800 and switch to give you better idea but still prefer the D2 over it, I do like that 2D screen ID on the manticore, fun watching your tests 🥳🥳🥳
Thanks windsurfing addict, the manticore definitely handles depth better than the nox 800, I used to get the same with the nox 800 calling iron on deep targets and that’s what I love about the d2 it gives you a good response all the way around the hole but the tones on the nox were stronger, you really have to listen on the D2, it’s like the nox was running audio response 7 without amplifying the ground as well, cracking machine and from what I have seen so far the manticore is and improvement but it’s not perfect, appreciate the comment thanks👍
@@DIRTBROSDETECTING Mark Lawrie said they are adding another menu for iron. So they're not changing anything, only adding an additional feature. First software update!
@@DIRTBROSDETECTING
Glad you agree that the Nox 800 called deep targets iron, other people have disagreed with my findings but when you have used a machine for a good while you find the what you like and not like with each machine, my old Fisher 75 Ltd was the same on deep targets, yes I loved both machines, I totally agree the D2 tones are not the best but still give good tones all be it quiet and squeaky on deep stuff, I don’t use pitch as I’m not as good with it as two or 5 tones, I would like to use full tones but again find it’s not very good compared to what see on say the Legend and the new Simplex ultra, Legend is on my bucket list as fantastic for the price and I have decided against the Manticore purchase in current software configuration and to expensive for me, enjoyed watching 😊😎😎
@@Windsurfingaddict would love to try the legend on the hammered coin I have buried in the garden, the manticore is seeing it but is favouring iron tone, maybe because it’s pulling iron in close where the d2 gets it, and yes I’ve had many a deep target on pasture past 13” where hammered coins have been good one way and turn on it and calls iron, glad your enjoying the content👍 more out tomorrow😊 thanks for watching👍
good video
Thanks😊
that the 11inch on deus 2 ? and can u do same settings with ws6 if dont have the remote?
Yes 11” and yes the ws6 module is indentical to the remote bar a few settings, the coil is the brain👍
Nice content , what’s the Id of the hammered out of the ground
Thanks History Revisited, the hammered is a 42 on the manticore and 56 roundabouts on the D2 out the the ground, looking forward to you testing the manticore.. enjoy your channel and thanks for watching👍 new video out tomorrow with more comparisons
Sensitivity on the Manticore may have been a little too high. I run comfortably on 20-24. Great video.
Thanks MrBobanyon
It was a quiet field and I did try a lower sensitivity but yes sometimes it’s better to go lower on the sens, it’s a beast! 😎😂
I'm surprised that Lizzie is coming in so low on the vdi, I use a DS2 master and I had a Lizzy a few days ago same size, that was 68 on the vdi..
The Lizzy’s id is being pulled down due to the ground and depth, the coin is on the edge of detection so they read low, the manticore is doing the same thing. When searching deep targets best to keep an eye on the ferrous bar and listen for the faint clear whispers and not worry too much about id’s👍
Are u detecting in Chicago? Sounds like it
Heck no! Uk my friend😎
My Golden Mask 7 is a deep seeking machine it would have no trouble getting that coin it would be interesting to see if the Deus 2 can get the same depth as the Golden Mask 7
It would be interesting to run your machine over it, I’ve heard great thing about the golden mask machines😊
what settings do you use with your gm7?
Depth tests need to be done in a trench where the target is pushed into the side wall under the undisturbed soil
Did you used to be on the Roger’s relics forum? Sanjurouk?
@@DeanicussMT10 yes I did great forum that
you need to ground balance too with the manticore and put tone on deep :)
Thanks goldfingerbeats, jury’s out on the ground balance in mild soil as stated in the user manual and yes deep also got it with ease so good shout and thanks for watching👍
Which of the two is best for gold nuggets?
Tough call, would be interesting to put both machines to the test, maybe manticore would edge it?
I’m sticking to my trusty deus 2……
It has plenty of tricks up it’s sleeve, I’m still learning mine especially on 1.10, good machine
So which one is better?
To early to tell, I’ve only 20ish hours on the manticore and it’s obviously a very deep machine, probably deeper than the deus 2 in the right conditions, one thing I have noticed is in the field the deus 2 seems to ignore iron compared to the manticore? It could be the old there’s no one machine for every job!
Right now I wouldn’t want to lose either machine but if I had to pick one to find a specific target I would go D2 just because I know it better but the manticore has something special in there.. just need to learn it and that’s half the fun for me😊👍
Why is the Manticore machine beeping all the time?
More beeps more info @AbolfazlPasandi
It’s a balance of getting the beeps right😂 too many miss targets just right tiny deep hammered at depth👍
For anyone thinking about up grading to a Deus 2 or Manticore. I was out with the D2 yesterday hunting with a friend who swings the Nox 800. Things were pretty even at a very iron infested site... until... he asks me if I think it would be a good idea if he switched to his 4" coil... (same coil will work the Manticore). Well. he really saw some nice results...... I retired a year ago and swing at least 4 days a week weather permitting. From where I am standing no contest... until and if Deus comes out with a similar coil. Love the D2 but I will pissed if we don't see a sniper coil soon! Very well matched machines... unless your in heavy iron with 4" coil vs a 9" coil.... EOM
… and the winner is? …
Nox coil is 6”. They don’t make a 4” coil.
@@Mr.Technical77 Not my machine just guessing... I can tell you it was very impressive in the iron!!
How can the Nox800 small coil work with the Manticore, it's a completely different mounting.
The tones on the Deus are awful, great performer, but Minelab tones are hard to beat
Thanks brotherskeepers111, the minelab tones definitely stop you but a lot of information in the deus tones, they are both very good.. cheers👍
The xp tones are beautiful and gives a lot of information
@@riccardomarinoni6733 I agree! But the two machines definitely divide opinions, thanks👍
The tones are only that terrible when you use the speaker. With headphones it performs very well!
You can choose 3 audio themes on the D2. Next to that you can adjust these with an equalizer.
Spade shovel pointer and other detector close by. Buckles on shoes. Loads of things to interfere. Love my 800 but its going. Manticore is just catching not fishing. Fingers crossed im going get on with d2
Thanks jetsdad, both machines had the same scenario and the gear I had on in the test is what I wear every hunt, interesting results👍
So wich one is best?
They are both great machines and hard to go from one to the other.. minelab tones are strong and deus has its own language, hard to choose between the two
You would of got that hammered better on the Manticore, if you'd dropped the sensitivity down to 20.
Would be interesting to see what would happen. Planning a test bed video soon so I will try it, thanks somersetsearchers
@DIRTBROSDETECTING just gave you a sub, don't want to miss the test when you do it, I find if you run the manticore too hot you get a lot of noise feedback from the ground, masks deeper targets, I've owned a Manticore for about a month, very quickly worked that out, if you watch my vids using the manty you'll see I run at 20 or less most of the time.
@@somersetsearchers thanks, I’ll sub you back and take a look. I will give this a try for sure.. a lot of my land isn’t that busy but like the nox I used to knock that right back in heavy iron which gave great results. Also found my manticore is behaving different lately but that might be the saturated ground I’m on at the minute, interesting stuff😊
I can't see no difference in my minelab or tesoro detectors to be honest other than a load of bells and whistles flung in to try and keep the customer happy
Thanks for the comment Mark-iu8mr
Getting to know one machine over years is all you need, like you say there’s a limit to what a vlf machine can do
Llevas el deus malamente programado
que debería ser?
Para eso que es húmedo pon el relic respuesta al 0 97 de sensibilidad respuesta al 5 toma tierra ese suelo tiene mucho mineral y humedad por lo tanto el relic es el mejor para ese terreno luego tengo m programa que es una pasada pasado por un gran ingeniero,luego no hay comparación en playa el deus 2 deja en playa por los suelos a el meticore y a cualquier detector puede que meticore en campo agarre una moneda grande a 3 o 4 centímetros más pero eso ya está el deus 2 es una maravilla en playa es el mejor con diferencia y en campo va de muerte.
Alguna configuración buena para profundidad máxima?
hahahah hammy on manticore vdi 01 🤣🤣🤣 man no way u was picking a coin at 14” with this piece of crap 🤣🤣🤣
I agree, but if you were in a good area or hot spot you would dig it, but I’m suprised the ground is pulling the vdi down so much as I’ve had 14+ hammereds with the nox that has given me a 14/13 one way signal and iron the other, but the manticore is clearly hearing it so ground conditions are key, thanks for the comment👍
I got my self D2 as well now and oh my god my manticore missing coins left right centre on arable 😳 what the hell!!
I like the Minelab...Don't like the French Put another shrimp on the Barbie mate
😂👍
The minelab is shocking
You either love em or hate em😂 thanks for watching👍
Good for iron 😂 in all fairness every machine has its pros and cons.. I do love my d2 though 😅
@@cornishmetaldetecting6832 love my D2😎 but there’s a reason the minelab are so popular, learn one and they miss nothing👍
Does it always sound like the cast of the clangers in a food mixer?
@@DavidBeechfieldBrownArt 😂😂
Deus 2 better
manitcore is shyte sooner nox 800
Nox is still a beast👍
Wouldn't buy the Dues just for the noises. Awful
A lot of info in the deus tones so don’t count it out.. but I equally love the minelab tones, both great machines
@@DIRTBROSDETECTING Just ordered the Manticore 😁
@@kurt5488 you will love it👍
Minelab are s.....
Sounds like space ship