HOW BIG IS THE BARKOV CHALLENGE FOR THE OILERS?
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Gino Reda is joined by TSN's Ryan Rishaug to discuss the takeaways from speaking with Connor McDavid and the battle between the Edmonton Oilers and Florida Panthers in the Stanley Cup Final.
How confident are you that the Oilers can elevate their game in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final on the road versus the Florida Panthers?
I'm letting Knobs take the wheel on this one. He will figure it out
How big is the McDrai challenge for Fla? And Bouchard, and Hyman, and Nuge?
I'm somewhat confident. The team has the exact opportunity they've been working for this whole time
100 percent confident the Oilers are winning game one game three game five and six
@@archangelgabriel5316FLA has 4 lines that don't skip a beat. I'm sure the game plan will be to suffocate McDrai. In short, play to their team identity.
Ryan was right on Ekholm and Hyman. Without them.... Reaching final would have been just a dream.
Hyman’s deal is probably the best value contract in the league
@GinoReda-jr4xm Draisaitls too.
Barkov is an exceptional player and deserves his flowers, but I find it funny that the dialogue is so focused around "How will Connor McDavid handle Barkov" and not "How will Barkov handle Connor McDavid, the best player in the world and playoff point leader." We've heard every round some player or combination of players who were going to be a challenge for McDavid, yet here he is with an 11 point lead on the next non-Oiler. Yes, Barkov will make things more difficult for McDavid, but that's what he deals with night in night out. Going up against the opposing teams best defensive players is just another day in the office for McDavid.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Well said.
Agreed. But this is good. The pressure is on Florida cause they are expected to win, buy all these Molly whopped analysts. Florida is about to run face on a McDavid. I don't think anyone has seen. Scoring. Physical. Maybe even a fight. This kid was born for this moment. I wouldn't be betting against McDavid!!
Look at McD versus Dallas in Game 6. I thought DeBoer might cry afterward.
You nailed it. If I'm McDavid I'm not worried about Barkov
Well said. Also, what about Nuge? Why isn't he part of the two way forwards convo in the final?
Habs fan who lives in the Calgary area and also cheers for the flames but all in on McDavid and his Oilers here. As much as Barkov deserves respect and will be a very tough matchup I think the series will largely hinge on Skinner. He doesn't have to be better than Bobrovsky, just good enough to keep Edmonton in it. He has shown he can do it but only time will tell.
I would argue that it’s harder to try a defend against mcdavid. It’s exhausting defending against a fast offensive player, never mind in a series for multiple games. Every good shutdown line have started to tier out the longer the series goes. Jt miller is a good example in the Vancouver series
McDavid’s unique speed certainly makes him a tougher target. But we’ve seen teams do a pretty good job of clogging up the speed. Going to be interesting to see how Florida tries to deal with it
Is that why Leon had to come with an elbow in the second game already so they would stand a chance?
@@RaineriRi barkov is getting ready for the Olympic dive team. Don’t worry barkov will be just fine, the panthers are trying to draw out a suspension.
Absolutely nothing but respect for Barkov. Tremendous player at both ends of the ice and plays a very likeable game. But he has his work cut out for him: McDavid has more points than Kucherov, Pastrnak, and Panarin COMBINED these playoffs. And Leon is only a hair behind. And not to mention the Oilers depth is a force, with 16 goal scorers these playoffs compared to Florida’s 14
16-14 isn't that big a spread, I think it's gonna come down to how bad connor and leon want it when their going no one can beat the oilers
@@justinbell5421 I don't think they're suggesting it's a big spread, but rather cats depth isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Though what they forget to talk about is how incredible the goalies are they went through to get there...
Depth and balance are going to be huge! The Panthers can only target McDavid if no one else is producing. If Draisaitl finds room and success it’s going to make Paul Maurice’s job infinitely more difficult.
This is funny because you said Kucherov, Pasta and Panarin have less points than Mcdavid and acted like that is a separator of how good Mcdavid is to them when those players were limited solely because of Barkov
@@aaronjamieson6672yes this was my point. Lots of people saying Panthers have the advantage on depth. More likely it’s a wash - or slight edge Oilers if you want to get technical
How big is the Draistl/McDavid challenge for Barkov?
Knoblauch is going to keep them on separate lines so Barkov can’t watch them both. “Pick your poison”
You're absolutely right about Hyman and Ekolm
This series is somewhat similar to the NBA finals. On one side, there is an underdog with a generational player and Robin. On the other side, there is a well-constructed team who've been favorites all year. I'm rooting for the Oilers, but it will be interesting to see which side comes out on top.
Ryan don’t be so hard on yourself! I think he has a lot of great insight on the Oilers. Geno you also bring great energy and appreciate your Oiler support
I'm with Rishaug on the Hyman and Ekholm points...i don't think us Oil fans really knew how well those two moves would pay off
Barkov will be huge in this series. No doubt he will contain Connor. But at times with Connor it’s not one guy, team effort. Panthers will not let this guy be the reason they lose the series. Panthers in 6! Let’s go Panthers 🐆!!
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Facing Barkov is a significant challenge for the Oilers. Barkov's exceptional skills, leadership, and ability to perform under pressure make him a formidable opponent. However, with the Oilers' depth, talent, and determination, they are well-equipped to rise to the occasion and overcome this challenge.
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GENO IS A LEGEND!
Hyman has the best smile and the most fun 😍
We want the cup!! We want the cup !! We want the cup !! 🧡💙
100% agree with the Holland take. Not perfect, but we would be no where near where we are without him... Been a massive supporter of his since day one so i'm beyond happy. I had a terrible take about Knoblauch when he got hired, I didn't think the coach was the problem. But clearly I was wrong and Knoblauch was MASSIVE in righting the ship.
Totally understandable, because it seems like any time the Oilers aren't doing well, all they do is switch coaches
Everyone complains about what he did with nurse but we have hyman, Bouchard and draisaitl on amazing deals right now. He went out and got kane and perry during controversy.
Ken Holland saw the Woodcroft-Manson coaching combo mess up the defence and bringing in Knoblauch-Coffey was a season saving move! Brilliant hockey mind for building a championship team!
@@markh4545454 sure, but nurse is still way overpaid lol... 5 mil at best
The question is: what is Bakov going to do to slow down McDavid and Draisaitl?
Hey Gino, hope you're reading this while being comfortable with your feet up
Lol
Thnx for replying! I agree 👍
It'll be a bigger problem for Florida to stay out of the box.
can’t forget, edm’s penalty kill been the best in the playoffs so far as well. Cup actually might be coming to Canada.
Ekholm filled the biggest hole the Oilers had at the time; Hyman a great free agent signing; but getting 2 throw aways for minimum contract (in first year) was not only a huge gamble but a great payoff, in large part to somehow helping Kane not sabotage himself. And what about the Foegele trade for a guy that is coming out of NHLPA program on an expiring contract with his 3rd team since the Oilers and is a good bet to not get another contract.
Yo Shauggy, nice pointy shoulders dude…
gOIL!
Also surprised that Desharnais isn't going back in to face FLA. Didn't seem like he was bad against DAL but could see how a more mobile d-man like Broberg was preferable with their lineup.
I love Brobergs speed, but Desharnais is 6’7”. They are probably going to need his size
@@GinoReda-jr4xmGo like at the heights and weight oilers d men are 2 inches taller lol..edmonton is not small they are all over 6 feet..
I'm a bit surprised as well, I think Desharnais was playing fine but he's probably also pretty beat up with all the shot blocking and whatnot. Could be that Broberg is the better choice to finish it out.
97 & 29 play on separate lines. Plus powerplay. Can Barkov play 45 minutes a game? Good luck.
I say thanks Ken!
More good moves than bad, can’t complain since Chiarelli freight trained the Oilers before him…Holland did what he could, and it’s paying off now..GO OILERS!
I’ve actually been a fan of what Holland has done. Chirelli and Lowe infuriated me so much but I’ve enjoyed seeing what Holland has brought together.
Without Chiarelli' drafting the team isn't here either... as much as it pains me to say that. The guys 1 talent was definitely his drafting.
Lmao, yes I do wonder how Fla will handle McDrai.
The additions of Hyman, Ekholm, and Kane each added a dimension the Oilers were lacking.
So many receipts ❤ cats in 6
The Draisaitl line will likely be facing off against the Tkachuk line, and with the history between Kane and Tkachuk the Oilers are likely hoping that Kane can bully him out of the series like happened a few years back in the Calgary - Edmonton series. I don't expect that'll work anymore, but I do think that's still the matchup that decides the series.
This matchup is going to be so intense!! Going to be interesting to see which line snaps first and begins taking senseless penalties.
Best defense is a good offense because you spend all your time in the o-zone and not risking things that can happen in the d-zone by sheer luck or simply betting beat.
Now you McDavid and Draisaitl simps know how good Barkov really is…
The coaching staff I think doesn’t get enough credit, for example Desharnai and Broberg, penalty kill and power play. Even Skinner has improved his play. All players are firing on all cylinders, but now still have to turn it up one more notch. Go Oilers🥰
After the finals we can all say Barkov was a problem😅 we all saw how McDavid was almost scared to go on ice when barky there avoiding him at all cost😅 oilers whole player rotation built to avoid playing mc against barkov, it even almost worked
He actually said Mcdavid was Macdaviding.
The problem is the plus/minus is considerably worse than Panthers. Nurse -13, Desharnais -8, Foegele -8. I assume the coach did not play Foegele and Desharnais for this reason. Oilers would have lost if Desharnais, Foegele were in the lineup. Hopefully Nurse is just going through a spell or injuries. Derek Ryan should be replaced by Sam Carrick. Derek Ryan is -6. That's about all that can be done. I like the idea of Dylan Holloway on the 2nd line with Draisaitl and Kane. McLeod is -4. That's about all you can do. Even still, the numbers are so bad for Oilers plus minus I don't see how Oilers can win.
Nurse was -9 in the Vancouver series alone and Edmonton still won. The Oilers special teams are historic and plus minus doesn’t reflect that.
How big is the McDavid challenge for the Panthers ??
Raushaug didn't answer the question about Chiarelli.
Must replace Derek Ryan -6 with Sam Carrick -1 on bottom line center. 3rd line replace McLeod -4 with Mattias Janmark 0. Ceci -5 on the bottom pairing. Everyone gets rewarded for their better plus minus play. We might squeeze out victory if we do this.
Canadian delusion will never NOT be hilarious
It's not. The better question is who's going to shutdown Holloway Henrique and Kane.
I feel like im in La-La Land, this Florida team is great but jesus they arent the 07-08 Red Wings FFS. I believe we stack up better @ every position minus maybe the 3rd line.
Having seen plenty of both teams Edmonton has a better top 6 and top 2 Dmen but Florida has a better bottom 6, bottom 4 dmen and definitely a better goalie
If the Holland haters are still hating at this point, then they never liked him before some "bad moves" anyway... enjoy the moment, and the ENTIRE team deserves some credit; but losing in the finals is still just losing too.
The depth of Edmonton will really show in this series
They sure will. They’ll show just how outclassed they are
Florida in 6 games. McDavid's silver platter will shatter. Florida has been sleeping for alot longer than Edmonton has, and it's time for them to wake up. The goalie will be the difference in this series. Skinner is no Dwayne Rolston. Also he's Canadian going against a Russian 2x Vezina winner. Hell, he's gonna have another one under his belt. Trust me I want to Edmonton to win cause of Canada. But I know Edmonton does not have what it takes, in the goalies end of things.
That 2x Vezina winner lost to a Canadian goalie in the finals last year. The deciding game was 9-3. How quickly we forget.
@@Dylligraphy won't lose this year against what, Skinner? Lol
Love ya Ryan, but stop trying to be right with Gino, and maybe just keep up the good content :)
For me Holland really STB with the Campbell signing. If Skinner doesn't stay hot and win a cup that deal will follow him and haunt him forever.
X2 and he wasted too many years and still not solved the goalie problem. We should have been here 3 years ago. Total respect for our core players and this incredible coaching staff...sorry Ken your getting another free ride from the our strong players and coaches....lets just pray Skinner can stay reliable.
@@PaulHVAC1 Yup! 👍
Forsling is the defenseman that #97 will have to deal with. With all due respect Ekblad imo is no longer the premier defenseman on that team. Brandon Montour is probalbly a better all around defenseman than Ekblad is now imo.
Agreed.
Panthers in 5
Now you guys know, who the real best player in the world is! Aleksandr Barkov is THAT GUY. No respect for McDavid padding his stats vs the Kings & the Canucks 3rd string goalie 😂
Game 7 Barkov fo% 83.3
That big challenge...
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Connor McDavid = Lebron James light (not Lebron's level but close enough)
Sasha Barkov = Andre Iguodala
Florida in 5
This will go to Game 6 and La Bamba will be cranked with lord Stanley being hoisted! Let’s go Oilers!
Barkov has a +- 0 right now in the playoffs. I don't really get this narrative.
Mcdavid +7 Hyman +9 Bouchard +14. Is he playing as a triplet this series? Does he have 2 brothers in the lineup for game 1?
Kane was a good get as well, and Lucic good bye
Why does nobody talk about the McDavid challenge for Barkov?
These comments just didnt age very well. Just another reality check for people, who thinks they know something about hockey.
The Oilers will be more concerned about the mood of the Refs then the Panthers.
McDavid fan boy.
If you can’t at least on some degree respect what McDavid does then you’re probably not a hockey fan
@@Dylligraphy Saying McDavid is the second coming of Jesus is disrespectful of so many other great players.
Edm
Oilers will win
Desjardins is 6'7'' and plays like he's 5'0'', he's a hazard 5 on 5. Keep him out.
Who is Desjardins? Do you mean Desharnais?
Barkov on another level than Kopitar? Looooool
Barkov wont stop McDavid, make it hard for him to score, yeah maybe. The problem for Florida is making sure the rest of the team doesnt score. Stop the depth, and easy win for either team. Edm doesnt get past Dallas if the depth of Brown/Janmark/Henrique/McLeod/Broberg with 5 goals combined that series dont score those goals. Dallas supposed depth didnt show up, reason they out.
Barkov can shadow McDavid all he wants, more room for Leon, Nuge, Zach, Holloway,.....
Bouch
You think those guys will have space because Barkov will be on Conor. Don’t make me laugh.
Hyman was the only player that played all season. Ever McDavid and Draisitl were in the dumps except Hyman. He hands down deserves the consmyth
So Oilers think 1 player(Connor) can win you The cup?No chance BARKOV Will Finnish🇫🇮 Oilers and Lord Stanley IS going Florida.
If Panthers stay out of box, playing 5 on 5 Barkov takes care of biz... Even McDavid is the best player on planet by shadowing him down in points.
Power play is a different story. There McDavid has room to operate and Drisaitl can score on his passes.
These "experts" have been so wrong about the Oilers and their predictions. They all chose Dallas emphatically and the TSN analysts fell on their face. These two clowns know about as much who will win as my grandmother.
Please say hi to her for me.
@@GinoReda-jr4xmjust keep hyping up Florida… takes the pressure off our guys
People in here really acting like Mcdavid isn’t torched kopitar danault 3 years in a row. Those are already 2 top shutdown centres in the league.
Every team every game tries to shut him down, he’s used to it.
The difference between Florida and the Kings is top end offensive talent.
The difference between the Oilers and Florida is top end offensive talent.
@@thomasmanfreda6145 regular season florida was 11th in scoring, and la was like 4 places behind. The Oilers largely shut down a much better offense in Dallas.
Barkov is nothing compared to mcdavid and draisaitl. Barkov has half the points and about the same ice time, no comparison here. The better question is how are the panthers going to win if they get average 5 penaties a game. Panthers are a very dirty team can't see them doing good
Just wait and see. Barky can take 5 on 5 steam on Connor.
@Capo51 yeah lol mcdavid is in his own league it takes 2 or 3 guys on him at all times to stop him. Barkov is just another player like dallas 1st liners or vancouver. Barkov average Joe against nhl best player
Lol, “Barky” and his +/- of 0 and 8 even strength points in the playoffs compared to McDavid’s +/- of 7 and 17 even strength points is really gonna mount a challenge, said no one ever. Florida’s D is gonna have to shoulder the load and not their forwards.
Kucherov, Pasta, Zibanejad and Panarin combined scored 1 goal 5vs5 against Barkov. Barky has been great in these playoffs. I know McDavid is level above them but don't underestimate Sasha. He's currently the best two way center in the world. He will give a challenge. He doesn't need to shut down McDavid. Just slow down a bit. Florida has three good lines who all can score. Anyway, this is a very interesting matchup and for me the most interesting finals in years. And after all, I'm happy who ever wins it. Like to see Florida win it all but I'm definitely ok if McDavid lifts it. He deserves it also. Great player and arguably the best offensive player ever.
@pulttibois2376 just watch the show when mcdavid drags barkov and a couple guys out of the play and sets up his wingers
The good thing about barkov is there's only one of them
Florida can't handle Mc D
They're going to clutch & grab and take plenty of cheap shots along with any chance to hit him legally as well. Question is are the refs going to call anything or everything.
Refs don’t wanna lose their job
They and DPS and the situation room all answer to Colin Campbell whose son that he’s consistently pulled strings for happens to be with the Panthers right now
There’s a reason Sam Bennett has gotten no supplemental discipline for concussing Knies Slavin and Marchand the past two playoffs with deliberate attempts to injure
It’s a sun belt team vs a Canadian team. Interference from Bettman and/or the Campbells is to be expected.
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Not as big as the McDavid issue for the Florida flames
oil in 4
The hits need too come early.
Barkov, Bennette and Titchuck..
For the oilers the sooner and harder the hits happens the better chance they hv to win.
This barkov stuff is beyond ridiculous to me he can only play against one line and I'm still taking 97 or 29 to outplay him
This is why we dont listen to you
If this were based on Bob it would be legit. Oilers have had tons of chances
ok gotta remind people..Barkov is not Mcdavid..done..case closed.
Barkov has proved that
BARKOV IS GOING TO GET EXPOSED
yep, connor will undress him -- it's going to be uncomfortable falling on the ice butt naked
@hikeheaven1 … God only knows what’s gonna happen, but thanks for the fan bias hype you shouldn’t be shy to get humble when facts makes you feel bad Saturday after a shoutout! …
@@ourworldbeauty … funny thing is your comment will be deleted after get humble by my shoutout on Saturday having said that your comment just proves how insecure and naked your conscious is 😂
aged like milk
Oilers in 5. How many Panthers are in the top 5 of playoff scoring again? Oh ya... that's right....zip zero zilch....
Hows that going for you
Aged like a fine rotten milk
The Toronto Sports Network...How will the two best players in the world handle Barkov? Lmfao...what a bunch of clowns.
You wanna talk overrated, how about Barkov. He's amazing yes, but the media is acting like he's just going to completely shutdown Mcdavid and go about his own business and get a bunch of goals. Barkov is going to have a handful to deal with McDavid and will most likely lose that battle.
Andre Iguodala beat James in 2014-15. Similar story here.
Barkov 1+3, completely shut down Drai entirely held McDavid at zero goals (granted 3 assists but yk its McJesus) Florida leading 3-0. This entire take is aging like milk. Barky on top.
Who said McDavid is overrated? Barkov isn't even close to Connor and Leon, you need a full line of Barkovs to make one of the former.
Some writer for the Miami Herald. Clearly it was a click bait headline to grab attention & readers for his column. I wouldn't put much stock in some hack writer from Florida who obviously hasn't much experience or exposure in hockey. Kind of like that hockey vlogger who tried to diminish & slag Zach Hyman's accomplishments as a hockey player saying or implying Zach's rich parents were responsible for his on ice hard work & talent.