Things we wasted money on: Tools and Lots of Them! Don’t Be An Idiot Like Us!! Watch This Video!!
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I agree that a roll cart is the way to go . One thing I would recommend is shops should have a caged area maybe 4 feet wide by 10 feet long or longer with wall and shelf storage for each mechanic to store extra tools hanging on the walls and on shelf’s instead of the big expensive boxes full of tools. That’s just my two cents anyway.
It's nice to see someone advocating against spending 5 figures against a metal box.
@Agnus Marley she’s cheating on you dude. Move on
@Agnus Marley nope, nobody gives a shit
I will buy one but only because I work out of my box. The shop isn’t big enough to need a roll cart so I will stick with my full box
@Sid The sloth honestly they are good though. Maybe not worth the whole amount but better than most
@Sid The sloth I mean they work good. If you can afford it buy it but I obviously wouldn’t tell someone new to just go out and buy them for their first wrench set
Hamilton is crying this morning over his breakfast. Everybody is against the Snap-On large toolboxes.
Nah that isn’t what I said. If u work out of it. U better buy snap on but I don’t. It’s used for storage. The roll cart is what carries the loads at our shop
Yet everyone still buys the snap on boxes
I'm sure he'll find some way to cut deals and sell those suckers.
Never EVER thought a I would say this but the new Harbor Freight Boxes are pretty damm good now at a fraction of
The price!
im for the big Snap-On box.... i got one..you got to join the grown man club.lol
HUGE thanks for producing this video. I am looking for a toolbox, and I was considering spending $4000-$8000.
Instead I bought 3 cheaper Craftsman boxes, so I ended up getting 2x the storage space (more than I'll ever need)....and those boxes only cost me $999 each.
Now I am looking for a nice roll-cart :)
I am buying the big Husky for my home garage.
We have all made tool purchases that we regret. 😭
Hard to consider paying full retail for a NEW name brand box when there are hundreds of USED boxes for MUCH cheaper out there.
Lucky13 Farm agreed nothing wrong with getting a used or repo box
I wanted a big box for years, and I finally got one recently. I got a Snap-on 55" box for 30% of new price lightly used. I am not employed by a shop but it gets worked out of in a small space. I love it. I have a 32 year old Craftsman and a Harbor Freight roll cart that did the job before, but now they are overflow storage. I'll echo the sentiment- Cart and cheap box is the way to go for a big shop where you travel around a lot for sure. If you have your own bay or work in a small space, get a nice used American big box and a cheap basic drawerless cart to toss tools on for the day, and then put them all away at the end of the day in your big box after wipe down. NEVER pay full price or close for a new expensive American made box unless you are a made tech and have the money to burn. Buy cheap storage and MORE TOOLS!
I believe Craftsmen should be Proud of every tool & toolbox they own, therefore always buy the best you can afford. Every time
I recently bought a Snap-On KR-377A roll cab on Craigslist. After cleaning it still works good after 72 years. Snap-On tool boxes are made to last.
Good friend's a manager at a medical volume shop , he's over 100k into his enormous snap on box and tools. Now is a big boss and don't turn wrenches no more. He sitting on all that and don't wanna sell at a huge loss . I have 2 smaller Mac boxes. Both 36×24 rollers with no top hutch . Best thing I ever did
A year later you buy a huge matco 6s with side cabinets and top chest 😂
I was just thinkin the same thing watchin this again. But....it sure is pretty. If Harbor Freight puts the 72 out in white....yeah. I'm gonna paint the trim blue.
I totally agree with bill.. I’m SUPER unsatisfied with my 3/8 snap on gun. Everyone talked them up in my shop I finally bought one and I can’t believe I wasted all that money. Won’t break anything loose that everyone else’s gun seems to do. Even just pulling the trigger on the gun others sound stronger.. I just might have bought a dud. Just my luck
Just bought one bc I don't own an impact. I bought it for 400 down from 700 so it's not as crazy
Bahaha $400 for a snap on outdated impact. Get a milwaukee fuel or DeWalt XR and they'll run circles around the snappy
Told my son in-law to spend his money in tools not boxes. It’s been a few years now and he’s agreed with me. Big money boxes comes with a big payment and for what. You can’t fix it with the box, it’s the tools that’s in it.
Broomie01 they look super nice though
@Marc Owens I agree I have a harbor freight box but the truck boxes do look nice
I haven't been working all that long in the automotive industry so I went from a harbor freight little 2 drawer tool box to a harbor freight 5 drawer 48-in 22in wide 12in deep box and finally I'm getting my DreamBox to roll cart just like it worse that nice electric orange slide top
When I was at freightliner I moved my big box from job to job it was worth it. Now that I'm working for my self roll cart is definitely the way to go. The 14 volt ratchet is one of my favorite after using it can't do with out it. Little seal puller you definitely have to pick your battles but it does come in handy.
I have to agree on storage. I run a Matco Jamestown 773 roll cart for everyday looking at a 44 or 54 us general for over flow.
I previously worked out of a us general roll cart just bought a 54 inch masters last week and I love it the roll cart now barely gets used I can see the wasted money on large boxes I work out of mine thought a lot most of the time my box is right next to where I work we all kinda have our own bay
From a fashion viewpoint, Bill's green tool box is absolutely stunning! There is a lot to be said for having something to look at that just makes you feel good. A kind of validation of all the hard work it took to get something that looks so pretty. Did you design the new uniforms to compliment Bill's box?
Haha no it just worked out that way
You can tell bill loves green im a blue guy which is why i love how matco finally is doing more blue products
What I find interesting is how few regrets you three guys have.
Tools are very important to those who know how to use them correctly
I own the 30 inch U.S General tool cart and the 44 inch model as well and they are great quality all around. I've had Snap on boxes in the past that were no better or worse than these ones. Mind you, I use them both daily and they are really great! Especially the 44 inch model and higher. You can save thousands of dollars on skipping the Snap Ons and Matco's boxes. The money you save can go into things that actually matter.. like good tools. At least more tools.
I fucking hate my 44 inch but I'm not buying a new box unless I really have to.
@@Jordan-ym5gf I don't know why.. my 44 inch serves me well.
@@Jordan-ym5gf I got the 56inch US general and have had 0 problems with it and have used it a long time everyday.
Wolly's biggest waste of money is replacing all the tools he loses on a monthly basis lol
One of my mentors when i was first starting told me to buy a harbor freight box and fill it with snap on tools, then once its full too the brim you can get a snap on box. And thats what i did and glad i did it
Good advice
The Milwaukee 3/8 m12 stubby blows the snap on 3/8 14.4 away.
If they slimmed it down it would be 100% better
I gotta say I love my Harbor Freight US General Mk2 5 drawer roll cart I loaded the bottom drawer with my impact stuff and bought it 3 years ago when they came out used it 6 days a week as my main tool box and it's held up just fine other than the bottom drawer sagging due to having 100lbs of impact stuff in it
I learned decades ago you do not want to skimp on your tools they will let you down at the worst time if you do.
The box doesn’t make you money, the proper tools do.
I can't see spending the money on boxes ,,I look at this way and this is just me ,its not the boxs that makes the money its the tools that make it lol
You can only fit so much in a roll cart. Not saying you should go and spend 10k on a tool box but eventually a box is needed.
I totally agree. I don't have many tools but my cheap Walmart tool box works just fine holding my few tools and keeping them from getting dusty. That's exactly what I think of computer cases, they hold the components but just gather dust like my tool box. So there's no point in spending a lot for one.
You can tell wallys piston ring kit is wasted money he hasn't lost any of them must of mean he hasn't used it 😂😂
That’s all really good advice. You spend the money on your bread and butter and you budget for everything else. The tools I wasted my money on: a snap on half inch shallow chrome SAE socket set. Probably used it three times in 30 years. If I’m going half inch I’m always going impact or at least power ratchet and with that I use the black sockets
I have a snap on epiq box. I tend to roll it around the shop vs using my cart. The only downside is that my big box is pretty heavy but I have everything in one place. As I'm sure you're well aware, you never know what will roll through your doors.
100% Facts! I'm lucky my company purchased my Strap-on tool box for me but for day to day I push around a rubbermaid cart with my tools in Milwaukee packout cases (I'm Industrial E&I) but I couldn't justify spending 2-3 grand for a box for my tools to just sit in
This has been one of the better vids I have seen. This is why I continue to watch is to prevent wasting money. Need more like this. Thanks for what you do.
It all depends on your shop set up. I bought a snap on triple bank master series reson being that my old cornhole box was falling apart. Like it was said best spend the money on quality storage it pays in the long run.
I was surprised to not see that damn polisher as well as those damn vise grips that are just absolute junk on your list Clay.
Daniel Tubbs I’ll put that polisher on my list 😏
I see that you guys are starting to see my point of view on some of the things that I have been saying for years now. The name doesn’t make the product only the price that you pay for it. As well I agree spend the money and get a good tool cart to work out of and buy a good box but it doesn’t have to say snap op or matco or anything like that especially when all it is at the end of the day is a place to store tools. Good video guys love it
Makes sense about the roll cart versus the tool storage box. I have a US General box for home use and I use the top as a work bench. So far it has held up. However if I was in a professional garage I would invest in a top end roll cart.
I work out of my toolbox. 84” epic love that thing
Tool carts are the way to go. I do see many people using the 5 drawer hf cart at my shop all the time. Some people have them for years with the only real problem is them running out of space eventually. I sometimes wonder if I even need my toolbox, I think a cabinet could do fine for holding my specialty tools and molded cases just as good...
I agree. I think I could have a big cabinet made and would be able to get rid of my 55” box and my black roll cart. I would have to keep my 72” because of all the 1” and 3/4” sockets and all my SAE sockets, wrenches and stuff in cases are in it. All my drill bits and specialty tools etc also stay in that same box
Nice show on sharing your insight on what's really important to spend your money from someone with years of experience as a Mechanic Technician working on Semi Trucks that's a lot tougher on Tools and what tools made the cut.
I spent the money on a KTL1022 up here in Canada because it retails for $13,020 plus tax ($14,712) and I got it brand new for $8,080 tax in and $1000 worth of wrenches thrown in.
This video has priceless value that nobody else is giving.
You just saved me getting caught in a money trap
My Husky tool chests and storage lockers have been fantastic…
No such thing as wasting money on tools Clay! I LOVE tools and I’m not even a mechanic! Another cool video
I will have to agree with bill on the impact gun , Milwaukee stubby 3/8 impact wrench is far superior than the snap on one . The electric long neck is great , no doubt about that one .
Pawn shops are a good hunting ground for name brand boxes. Patience is the key because after buying the box most pawn shops regret buying that monster box. Most pawn shops are dealing with a low budget market and the box takes up space and money. They will deal on that box if it sets around for months.
Hello everyone, thank you for the Great Video. And sound advice. In my line, two tool boxes would almost be impossible to keep up with. As a Aircraft Mechanic, everything goes with you. If you change hangers or the side of the airplane. Instead of a cart, I would use a tool bag. for most jobs. Even if that means going forty feet or so high. Otherwise, a Great Video. Again thank you
But if you were like me 30 years ago those boxes you mentioned were not around. Craftsman was . Like alot of the off brand tools that work today without buying from the BIG 3. Times have changed yes but no regrets on a SNAP ON roll cab.
I work for a large nationwide privately owned dealership group. We have the cheapest Mac Tools toolboxes and roll carts they've ever made. Has to be the bottom trim with how crap they are. I agree with your theory. If we had much nicer and bigger roll carts, the tool box would be just fine as a cheap big old POS because we wouldn't have to go to it hardly ever.
I say with tool boxes buy a used snap on box because the cheaper boxes do not last. Couple of coworkers had husky that fall apart within a year or two. I would never pay retail off the truck. You can watch my video on my Epiq on my channel
Bills box is hard to look it with him next to it. I love the green, my box is green but his box height and hutch height is sooooo low!
I have that cart, love it. The other box is a craftsman, because it just sits there and holds stuff.
Tell Bill to have his friend check with snap on for replacement drawer slides for the US General box. The tech next to me has a US General box and had a slide go bad he got with snap on and they had one that fit.
That's what I have. I have a green 72" series 2 hazard frought for my storage and work out of a macsimizer roll cart. I pretty much use the harbor freight for storage. Works out great for me.
I agree clay find a decent box to hold your tools and spend money on a good cart
Clay, For a shop setting, I would not recommend Husky. I work out of my house on my own vehicles and I do have the Husky box, and it is not that great. I think a good solution is finding a used Snap On or the other brands is to buy used. Just make sure it is paid off from the previous owner.
Mark K do you have one of the new soft close husky boxes ?
@@alexfranco5831 I do, it does the job it needs to do hold tools, nothing more.
@@alexfranco5831 No, I saw those but I did not get it.
I second this, I had a husky box 46" that fell apart within a year working in a shop, slides don't hold up to everyday use. Their good for a weekend warrior in his home garage. I upgraded to a matco box.
I’m looking at the 80” set up, I have a harbor freight 4 drawer & a Mac 1 drawer that my boss lets me use. I just don’t have the funds to get anything more than that
Great, advise! even for DIY types like me. Cart #1 and large storage are less used tools.
Seeing those new Icon boxes, I would have waiting before picking up my Matco 4S several years back. Cool video! Just sub’d 👍🏻
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I bought a Homak roll cart from Nappa welded some plates on the bottom and put some badass casters on it ., I love it . I’m gonna put a hitch on it so I can hook my Cushman cart to it . I’m a Millwright moving all over a paper mill. 👍
On the boxes and Snap-on tools y’all got from me. I will give you your money back on. Can’t beat that.
Call them out on Friday! They hate on M word boxes but then complain about Snap-On boxes. Trade them out for Harbor Freight boxes.
K9 Cop first of all you are taking what I said out of context, I said if you work out of your box you better get a Snap On box. What we do with using roll carts a cheaper box can sit and hold tools since the box isn’t opened but one or two times a day. If your are going to put words in my mouth at least pay attention to what I actually say instead of try to stir up stuff when you don’t know me. I’ve never bashed Snap On toolboxes only the polisher and some of the crappy tools they sell. The video was to simply state since we use roll carts the high dollar boxes are not necessarily a need when they are just storage for overflow
K9 Cop i really appreciate your deep concern for our financial status but frankly it’s none of your business how we spend money or the fact that I prefer to use a uniform company to look more professional for the public and also to keep my guys from having to wash uniforms and have grease and crap in their washing machines at home to ruin the clothes of their family especially with Bill having a brand new baby that maybe sensitive to the chemicals we come in contact with. If our purchases and our opinions seem to offend you so badly that all you have to do is come on here and troll us, why don’t you just do everyone a favor and unsub and not watch because I can assure you that you will not bother me one tiny bit my friend.
jovin Hamilton all taken out of context what people are saying or thinking we say. That’s because they don’t listen. I clearly said if you work out of the boxes daily u better have a Snap on box. We as you know work out of roll carts and hardly use the big boxes so, they aren’t needed like they would be if we work out of them daily.
carlton colvin you too are taking what I said out of context to try and get something stirred up that isn’t there. I clearly stated if you work out of your box you need to have a snap on box. If you work out of a roll cart you need to have a Snap on. I said if you do like we do and work out of a roll cart and only use your box for overflow storage and tools you don’t use on a regular basis then it is not worth the money when you may not even open the box 1-2 times a day. This video wasn’t done to bad mouth or bash snap on boxes but to show the worth if you use them. Why would anyone want to encourage (especially a young tech or someone just starting out) to spend a bunch of money on a toolbox when they need to invest that into themselves by buying the tools they need to make money with. If they work out of a roll cart then it would be wrong to tell them to spend thousands of dollars on a snap on box. You need to help guide people in the right direction that may not know and give them the pros and cons and let them decide. Everyone wants to get judgmental and start drama when everything I stated in this video is truth and fact. That’s like asking someone to buy a brand new truck that doesn’t even drive it but 10 miles a month that’s insane. I realize to some drama is fun and stirring the pot is awesome but everything said in the video was opinions based on how we felt and what we look back on after spending the money we have already invested. If you want to put words in my mouth at least listen to what was actually said in the first place. I’ve never bashed Snap On boxes and only very few tools. Snap On boxes are the best boxes made, but that doesn’t justify the price of them if you DO NOT WORK OUT OF THEM DAILY and it is nothing more than a cabinet to hold tools such as specialty stuff you rarely use.
Too many people think cordless ratchets are supposed to break the fastener free. That’s not what they were designed to to. You have to manually break it free then spin it out and vice versa to install it. If you want nut busting torque for breaking free get a right angle impact. I love my CT861 and my CTR861 phenomenal tools.
You are right , love your show
My thoughts on the toolbox is if you want a snap on,matco, mac, what ever find a used one on Craigslist for a lot less then new and get that instead of brand new off the truck.
Good idea, buy the used ones that the guys stopped paying on.
I love your channel and watch often so don't get me wrong but you have a serious issue with tools. If there was meetings for tool addicts, I'd definitely expect to see you there.
I love the CT 761, I traded mine in a few months ago burned up two DeWalt guns and ended up buying my 14.4 tools back today. But then again I can see where Bill is coming from with the power issues they work pretty good for me because the majority of my work is on towmotors however when I work on our loaders big trucks etc it don't have the power you would think it should. I love my tools but sometimes I can't help but go back to a good old fashioned ratchet and a wrench
At work I have a Large Husky box and used a small cart but now I got a large 5 drawers bluepoint cart and use the husky as storage space great to hear that I did somewhat good choices and not buy a snap on box right away
Bill you crazy 😂,those little impact guns and ratchet are awesome
I agree I love my CT761 and Long neck 3/8” ratchet.
I advise you sending bill for a full medical assessment 😂
Nah.. I’m super not satisfied with my 3/8 snap on gun. Want my $ back
A storage, is a storage.. but tools makes ya the money an we learn the hard way lol
Thanks for sharing 👍👍
I use my 55” Snap On Classic all over the shop, working on everything from little gas engines to 850 ton cranes. So a roll cart unless it held more tools and equipment just isn’t practical for myself.
I agree with you guys. Spend the money on your everyday stuff like the carts...but wait I don't have one....yet😉
It is pain to keep going back to my big box for more tools and work off of a 2 shelf cart now. Eventually I will get frustrated enough and break down and buy one. I like the slide tops and the full bank of drawers.
Every major tool brand has a few tools that are real duds to be honest. As great as snap on, matco, Mac and Cornwell are they aren't perfect. One of my next purchases will be a tool truck quality roll cart. The stability of design, serviceability and, strength justify the cost. Clay, you have given good advice regarding boxes and carts. Smart use of money is key
Check out the Montezuma slide top I showed. It’s truck quality for sure and a lot less.
@@KoonTrucking Thanks, I'll certainly do so. The ones I was looking at before you told me about this were the Snap On KRSC47, Matco 770 and the Mac Tools Equivalent. You certainly have gotten my attention
I'm a big fan of your channel and think this video is very impressive. This could help a lot of young techs save a great deal of money. I am equally impressed with Hamilton and his buyback offer. I look forward to seeing how this all plays out.
Snap on box is like kitchen aid mixer in the kitchen. It may not be use, but it sure pretty to be sit on every kitchen. In this case snap on box in every garage is a man pride.
When the us general boxes first came out they were really poor quality the new ones are great i use mine daily and wouldnt go back and get a matco roll cart but i also dont move my cart but only having two dealers that come to the shop so they arent having to be to competitive and tend to not give as good as deals
For storing tools like you said you dont need a snap on its nice but not needed well having a nice roll cart is a must! And I like Wally's pos tool and I'm with you I like the 3/8s gun and what not
I have the exact same snapon box as Wally and I also wasted money on that snapon thermal image thing that I never use. It does work good to look at building for heat loss. That’s about it
I would recommend looking at strictly toolbox if anyone needs one. I got a 72x30 and it was only around 3200 and its been amazing. Quick shipping as well and great customer service. Lost the keys and they sent another pair and arrived the next day
Great video I've watched so many toolbox tours lately to find the best rollcart for school.. I feel like I will outgrow a hb rollcart to fast even though I love mine and its been good to me for 3 years now
Clay... just think of all the flashlights and ratchets you could have bought with the money saved on those big snap-on boxes😎... great video as always👍👍👍
I have the icon box and love it but I work on campers and I use it every day and it allsome
I bought a Snap On storage box, but it is the one and only box I will ever have to buy as a homeowner. I know it will withstand any moves I make, and so for that reason alone, I chose to go Snap On. The other nice thing is the ability to get the drawers you want when you order a box, and not wind up with a bunch of small drawers or not enough small drawers depending on your preference. I would agree that if it was only ever going to sit in a corner, then maybe you might get away with it for a while, but I think even just as storage, that eventually the slides are going to give way. Maybe the better suggestion would be to buy a quality used box from your dealer vs new, because while it is not as cheap money wise, it is also not nearly as cheap build quality wise.
I agree, save ur money & put it where you can make better use of it.
One tool I wasted my money on was the Texas Twister.Didn't work like it is supposed to do and It sits on the top chest of my toolbox no longer used
Thank you for sharing. I totally agree
The slides are what makes difference I always had craftsman till got cart even a box in my shed that was rarely used slides still gave out
I agree 100% with the storage portion!!! I also agree with Bill the ratchet and impact are weak imo Great video as always Clay!
I’ve got a 60” SnapOn Epiq with hutch and side locker. I bought mine off OfferUp for 8k. Still a lot, but a hell of a lot less than getting it off the truck. I have a Sunex cart, but our shop doesn’t have room for me to have it there. At my last job, I had a Kobalt box along with my cart. The box is at my house now, but it was t built well enough to hold what I had in it.
I love my Epiq and hope to pass it down to my son one day. I do agree that if it all it does is sit there for overflow, spend money on a good cart. But if you’re patient and look around, you can find good deals on truck brand boxes.
Man I have to say I just can’t get enough of your videos Clay ... 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
The first month I started this trade I bought a extra long Snapon 1/2” ratchet and it was completely
unnecessary. Going back I would have gotten a long breaker bar and a ratcheting head to adapt if I ever needed that length for a fastener.
Great topic Clay.. great video . I appreciate you and your crew sharing your thoughts on tool storage and tool purchases. Thanks again.
Finally a sensible video. I would definitely go Milwaukee or US general given the option over husky. If you're not loading the big drawer down with 400#s of sockets any of them are decent options. Hard to argue with the price difference, even if it does shit the bed every 6 years
yea i agree with the roll cart vs the big box idea i work out of a roll cart more then a big box so i can agree with cheaper big boxes and better roll carts
I love my Epic (I got out for 3 grand brand new though) and I don't regret it a day. I do use my box almost all day though. If I'm working away from my lift then I load up my harbor freight cart so I'm obviously not working back and forth but for the size of my box and the price I paid I can't imagine there's a box out there that could beat that deal
I totally agree with having a good roll cart, sliding top is a plus. I have the big 6 drawer SnapOn flip top roll cart and it is packed full, still organized, 2 years no complaints. I have the 54" Master Series that I used solely as every day roll around as I worked in a shop that was big enough to do so. Now use it for storing that stuff that doesn't get used as often or just takes up a lot of room. Stupid purchases? Hutch for the Master Series. It is swell being able to lock up my flashlight and battery chargers (stainless powertop) but that big purchase payment isn't. I have the same snap on cordless ratchet, unimpressed. Already had to pay to have it repaired once, no power, glad I still have my 1/4" and 3/8 snap on air ratchets.
Well I would just buy the harbor freight new tool cart . I got mine during Christmas time for $499 bucks . Like my old Snap-on dealer said the over priced Snap-on tool box don’t do the work . Spent the extra $1000 buck on tools that make you the money . That big stupid tool box does not make you any money !
I got the big Cornwell cart in orange. It’s a flip top but otherwise pretty similar to yours. It’s a somewhat cheaper alternative to snap on.
The table you made out of pallets I bet that gets a lot of use and it was cheap
Lol I got my snap on box for half price so it kinda makes me laugh how everyone says they regret buying a snap on box but no one sells their snap on box
Hard to take that big of a loss when you paid that much. 50-70% loss might as well keep it
I agree on getting quality when needed. I worked out of a US General series 1 box forever. Slides weren't that good to start with and got worse as time when on. Also the struts started leaking on the top box. Bought a Snap on Epiq box to replace it and am totally happy I did it. Now I work out of it and only use a cheap roll cart when I am underneath a vehicle. Why not pull your boxes off of the wall and closer to the pull thru ally so you can work out of your boxes?
Just too hard to move them around the shop job to job so the way our shop if laid out a roll cart is perfect. When we have a shop full the roll cart can be a challenge to move around honestly.
I can see your point about a cart verses a large box. However I think it depends on the nature of your work. I work in a race fabrication and performance shop. Most of the time I work from my box and use it as a bench. But we are not on flat rate or a high volume shop. I have a smaller roll cart and it is primarily my overflow and catch all.