Won't Get Fooled Again Isolated Drum Track
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Won't Get Fooled Again Isolated Drum track with clips of Keith Moon in no particular order.
All clips were used from The Who's DVD "The Who: Amazing Journey" and "The Who: Six Quick Ones"
All rights go to the Who - Hudba
it cracks me up all the people talking about how sloppy he was and how much better he could be, but none of these songs would sound at all the same "cleaned up and more precise". They created the sound. Its like telling Salvador Dali that his clocks are all bent up. It's art, folks.
+Mark Lagerstam i don't hear much if any slop on this. To me, it's great drumming. He varied the beat around each section, rarely repeating the same thing over and over again. He used great patterns, and knew exactly what he was doing. RIP keith
funny story, apparently Pete looked high and low to find a drummer who could lock into a metronome, and none could be found. the drummer set the tempo, not a machine. but then he had Keith try it. and he nailed it. say what you will about the role of precise timing in rock, but you simply can't lock in like that and play sloppy.
+Zaq Kickasola (Da Shurif) @ 5:28 he goes into an awkward bass drum patern but he still remains in tempo. crazy
cydonianman right?
+Zaq Kickasola (Da Shurif) I wonder what he was listening to, when wearing those enormous cans on "Who are you?", etc.?
This is why Keith didn't need to play drum solos in between songs at concerts. Every Keith moon who song is a Keith moon drum solo:)
Best comment!!
@@karltinsley6012 For the life of me I don't know how the hell you read that comment and saw it as a shot at Bonzo.
J Chis
Familiarize yourself with Led Zeppelin...Mmmmmkay
No it’s not a pop at jb he’s just bloody good
Exactly
No one will ever say Keith was the most technically skilled drummer because he wasn't. But he was the ultimate master at improvisation and really capturing the feel and underlying emotions of a song with his drumming. I personally loved his sloppy, over-the-top style, it really was the perfect sound for The Who....
I read somewhere that Moon once boasted that he was the best Keith Moon style drummer around.
+steve mackey The story behind that, is this. At a rehearsal/recording session The Who were trying to get some song down but there was continual stop and start going on due to Pete calling out Keith on the tempo being off. First too fast, then too slow, and back and forth again, and again. This lead to a point where after the however many times it was that Pete corrected him Keith stood up from his kit sticks in hand raised above his head and loudly proclaimed "I am the best Keith Moon type drummer in the world!". His point could not be argued.
He was. And there's not a single person in second place, or third place, etc.
+steve mackey I have his biography "Keith Moon Life and Death of A Rock Legend" (In England it's called, "Dear Boy"). I've read it twice, and I recommend it to every Keith Moon fan! Keith said in 1974 or 75, "I'm 'still' the best Keith Moon style drummer around. That was when he was having some serious personal issues.
It was when recording Sister Disco, and Pete wanted a certain style which Keith couldn't do. They went with his version anyway!
Keith Moon.. what a f*****g legend... I've played the drums for over 40 years since I was 12, and he has to be the most talented drummer I've ever listened to.. The Who were always so tight because of his skills... he excelled on Quadrophenia , he was at his peak then.. everything he played was top notch and way above the rest (Bonham, Baker etc).. he was probably on the spectrum and the drugs didnt help, but if he wasnt on the spectrum he wouldnt have been so talented... what a rock n roller was Keith Moon... my HERO
Jonathon P
When listen to Quadrophenia on my headphones I try to get the drumming as isolated as possible. He carried that whole album.
This has to be one of the more outlandish, unhinged drum parts ever recorded. It sounds like a total stream of consciousness, Keith just letting it all hang out while the tape is running. Needless to say it's utterly brilliant and I don't think there is another rock drummer who has ever picked up the sticks who would have thought to play it this way. He was a complete original and perfect for The Who.
He had many amazingly tracks! The drumming from Who's next and Tommy blow my mind...68-72 his prime. Early stuff was great too, but he gained experience and confidence. A true talent, the best ever, better than most even at his worst. Untouchable at his height! RIP Keith....
Agree, Ginger Ann.
People need to listen to Keith's playing on the studio version of 'Leavin' Here' (my copy is on the reissue of 'Odds and Sods').
His hands are like Bruce Lee's on that track: Unbelievably-LIKE LIGHTENING-fast fills....no words.
EVERYONE MUST LISTEN to that track to truly get how fast his hands (and wrists) were.
Here's the YT link: czcams.com/video/2jtCt7y8d9k/video.html
@@Ginger7024 best drummer ever
Very, very jazz sounding to me. Very busy and free-form. Gene Krupa comes to mind.
But underneath his kick drum keeps playing that semi-funky backbeat. He's almost like one drummer playing on top of another.
Remember that Keith Moon was playing at the time when Ringo Starr and Charlie Watts were playing. Shit all they had to do was keep time. Keith Moon was the first drummer to compete with the vocalist and lead guitarist. We wouldnt have got Peart and Copeland if it wasnt for Moon.
Neil Peart said that he was always drumming on his class desk, at school, trying to emulate Moon. A teacher sent him one time to discipline room with a pencil because was going crazy with the noise. Neil so kept playing the Tommy drum parts.
Drummers are low man on the totem pole.. as bad as bassists. Every once in a while tho you get a great a talented bassist or drummer that make a band. Peart, Getty Lee, that guy from Genesis. LOL
+David Witcher Yes, you nailed it. There's this strong tendency toward revisionist history on these threads, in which the musician who set the bar and invented a particular approach/style somehow winds up being unfavorably compared to his peers (who were playing straight, by the book) and those who came in his wake. Aside from "Wipe Out" and surf music stuff, no one even THOUGHT about the true possibilities in rock drumming until Keith Moon came on the scene in 1965. Sheesh.
David Witcher spot on kid
When You Watched The"WHO"In Ther Heyday It Was A Sort Of EyeBall Netball Between Moon-Townsend-Daltry & Entwhistle,Very Rare!
If ever a drummer gave 1000% it's Keith Moon. Non-stop fills. Creative riffs. Total energy.
I played in a British invasion cover band and we saved The Who songs for the end. If we did them at the beginning, we would not have the energy to play the other songs.
Yes non stop riffs which as a drummer enthusiast very catchy and groovy
Astonishing quality of recording for 1971. Glyn Johns was a very special producer.
Yeah, Jimmy Page taught him well.
He's still working. His son Ethan is no slouch either.
Would benefit from better quality bass drum sound and level maybe, but actually probably not
Amazing sound
If I tried to drum like this, by the time the song was over I'd pass out from exhaustion.
Keith took qualudes and snorted coke on an excess that is unthinkable on our days. It gave him an "energy "that damaged his heart and leaver while his yougness was leaving him. No doubt that the excess instead of carrying him to the tower of wisdom carried him to a shorter life. He obviously because the drugs endured more time to get tired. Less tired he could play drums three times a normal drummer.And he was a quick drummer.
Jonas Wellinghton qualudes make you drowsy though do they not?
@@Scorhos I'm guessing english isn't your first language..
He used to do 2-3 hour gigs this way... he's a pure legend
I could not have said it better my self.
Like mcfcderry01 says, Moonie played lead drums, just like Daltrey was on lead vocals, Pete on lead guitar and Entwistle fucking inventing lead bass. That's what made the Who so damn brilliant. They were all out of their minds and it worked.
Isaac Rosenthal Finally someone understands what made the Who great....Out of their minds!
Actually Daltrey and Entwhistle did the rhythm parts, and Entwhistle and Moon the lead parts. The complete opposite to convention - The Who.
As a bassist, I wouldn't know how to follow Moon, which is why I imagine Entwistle didn't play standard bass, either.
That being said, Moon is probably my all-time favorite drummer.
I've been saying for quite a long time that the Who wasn't a band, but a conglomeration of four soloists, each going his own way, but incredibly meshing together perfectly.
El Gil I think you meant "Daltry and Townsend did the rhythm parts", no? And if not, you shoud have!
Isaac Rosenthal they also had a great band name too
controlled chaos that was Keith.
Yep
controlled?
You mean uncontroled KAOS go read the bio. ;P~
i read his bio depending which one i assume Dear Boy but for me there was method in his madness when it came to drumming, to me this is my opinion,one of my favourite drummers it will always be Keith.
huh...pete alwas changing his mind about moon wierd
Keith was (is) a pure ecstatic joy to listen to. I love the comments. The worship of Moon's drumming is deserved. It makes me weep with joy.
He had such great time too...
Best drummer ever. His wild energetic style was amazing. Rip Moon. Long live rock.
Keith's isolated drumming always sounds like drum solos to me. And awesome fucking solos at that.
Rock 's first "lead drummer".
Yup. He just played whatever he wanted all the time and held down the dynamics, just like the rest of them. Listen to the guitar fills, the bass runs, and the vocal licks. They all did the same! But at tasteful intervals all giving creed to the previous! Incredulous!
+Johannes Badenhorst Isn't any isolated drumming considered a drum solo?
+Johannes Badenhorst That's because The Who's rhythm section played lead lol. Go listen to John Entwistle's isolated bass tracks and he's definitely driving the music. Pete stuck to well structured chords that provided support. He was basically the band's rhythm section; totally flip flopped
+Tommy Meyer
Good analysis.
He [Keith] didn't play [drums] from left to right, or from right to left, he'd play forwards. I've never seen anyone play like that before or since. - John Entwistle.
Ive been playing drums since over 12 years now and I am struggling hard to understand what Entwistle meant by this. Is he referring to the tom-setup or the note-sheet? Im really missing the point.
AllisterCooper2008 I think that John meant Moony tended not to play the traditional fills and rolls from high to low, but instead played uneven groupings of fours and sixes back & forth across snare and Tom, or snare and toms
They made a one of a kind rhythm section.
This was amazing. I'm not a drummer, but I think this would be exhausting for most drummers to attempt. I just read in another online article that Keith never practiced between tours or outside the studio, nor did he keep a drum kit at home. Yet the guy anchored one of the greatest bands in history...a testament to his genius and passion, and obvious natural ability. RIP Keith.
Ringo Star was the same. Now don't start up, Ringo is an amazing drummer.
I'm a guitarist/singer, but I must say, the drummer is the difference between a good band and a great band.
*****
Beatles are an example Jimmy Nichols I think was his name, subbed for a sick Ringo, and it wasn't the same without him.
One good saying I was taught is: A good guitarist will look after himself, a good drummer or bassist will look after the entire band
Reuben, Amen brother that's because the drummer is the soul of the band!
witless X You the type of guy to think that oasis are the best band ever and that my chemical romance are hardcore
I mean sure, but you also look like a 60 year old trans, you sound like a fuckin bloke and you look like you've got cancer
There's always been something quite magical about a full Moon.
Moon sounded awesome and also looked amazing playing the drums, many drummers can't perform or compete with what he was doing
Lars Ulrich
his articulation and energy level are off the charts. something to do with his mental condition. an asset for sure.
David Cammalleri 😂😂😂
This little nut bar is well on her way czcams.com/video/pj5ue3M-v6o/video.html
@@lugann603 My God, I never knew about this band. All sisters and all amazing players. Yes the drummer is special.
Kieth moon was one of a kind performer. A truly phenomenal drummer. The world was lucky to have him. There was no containing him when it came to playing drums. He had boundless energy when it came to playing. He had his own style, which is what made him who he was. An incredible drummer and phenomenal performer! RIP Keith Moon!
I played in a cover band. We saved this song as our last song. Why? Because it takes incredible energy to play it and afterwards we're all exhausted!
What a treat to hear the drums clearly. At first, I was taken aback at some missed hits, some imprecise coordination between the snare, toms and kick. BUT, after listening a while, I got it - Moon is playing TOTALLY on gut feel. He's not thinking about his playing - he's just playing and his mind is just listening. Once I broke the code, I could sit back and enjoy his playing. I learned not to judge him on execution, but on FEEL. If he misses some hits or blows some fills, it's all covered up by the other instruments. Remember, this track is heard clearly here. But on the record, his drums blend into the other instruments and vocals. Bravo, Keith. I think I'd love to perform a set with you - and then have a week to recover!
Keith Moon... not to be taken away.
keith`s playing suited the who....wild, exciting, innovative, adventurous....a bit like himself.....certainly not boring.
+Willie Finn Keith Moon was the first rock drummer who was fun to watch. His flailing, animated and energetic playing attracted fans. It's part of what made The Who, THE WHO.
+Steve Coscia I agree. And although Pete Townshend is on video saying he didn't like Keith's style, the group was never the same after he died and they recruited Kenney Jones, who played the way Pete always wanted Keith to play. The element of Keith's playing that Pete didn't like was a crucial part of their sound, their persona and their success.
+Blues fan Also, Pete was the leader, and wanted to be center stage. They actually amplified down Keith's playing. He was so loud, but the absolute best ever!
John Thomas Pete and his ego are dangerous
Moon was Moon , one of a kind . I saw him live in '74 , unforgettable , immortal .
4:57 he ends the verse early, 5:04 he picks up too soon, thats Keith, always gives back the beats he owes you , and you come out even in the end !
Right!
He couldn’t play like anyone else, no one else could play like him. A mad, brilliant savant
The reason why keith moon is so amazing is because of his energy, and is fills.
If you listen to this without listening to the song you aren't really getting the full picture, you have to listen to how his fills coincide with the composition of the song.
BenjamminClark I couldn't believe it when I first heard it isolated.... "That's Keith Moon playing the greatest song in rock!!!" and then I got it .... the reason why Won't Get Fooled is so GREAT is that it's all about the groove that's created BETWEEN these instruments and musicians playing off each other. Each detail isn't the important thing its just the way they feed off each other ... textbook example of it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!!!
his fills are the song
The best description of The Who I've ever heard was that they were all playing lead at the same time. That is why their sound was so explosive. Replace Moon with anyone and their songs would die in the vine.
I'm genuinely curious - throughout the whole song, does he ever play two consecutive bars in exactly the same way? He's like the best drum machine in the world with the "fill" button taped down.
It doesn't sound like it, he's got this wild jazzy style to him and I guess not. But it was the style of the time. If you listen to Ginger Baker and Mitch Mitchel they did sort of the same thing, though not nearly as insane as Keith.
What he IS doing though is outlining or highlighting the other musician's parts NON-Stop. He's not JUST filling, he's painting a musical picture within the frame the others are laying down.
Keith loved Gene Krupa, and Elvin Jones. Jones loved to use the entire drum kit to play a beat, as did Keith.
He's following the vocals ;-)
No, I don't think he does.
Daisy Rothschild If you read Pete Townsend's biography he confirms the comment above about Keith working to Roger's vocal hence the interpretative style over repetition or straight technique. Another element to his style is shown in the Smothers Brothers' and earlier clips he used crash/ride combinations and only employed hi-hats at the latter stages of his performing/recording career. One crazy guy, one crazy drummer and creditably, totally unique and one of his generations stars set in the rock firmament.
This is so great. I loved Keith simply as a drummer. He was so imaginative and driven by the music. There is nobody like the Moon. He was truly the heart of The Who.
Keith moon is why I am a drummer today, yesterday and tomorrow, the first song I heard was my generation, he gave me a purpose, he also had no formal training, his aggressive and often destructive style can never be compared with any one else, he was the best,period
The magic of Moonie, interpreting every aspect of the music and almost turning drums into a lead instrument. Glyn Johns (the producer) just fed Pete's synthesizer track into the studio and the boys played live to it to get the recording. No click tracks back then.
Alice Cooper said he was the best rock drummer in the world, that's good enough for me
its all over the place, but at the same time exactly what was needed.....totally unique
The secret/key to Moon is he played his drums as a lead instrument rather than as part of a rhythm section. Entwistle is the glue that holds it all together, although he certainly knew how to improvise when he wanted but usually when there was an appropriate gap in the song. 3:35 - 3:55 is someone enjoying himself and losing himself in the music rather than a drummer interested in keeping time. Sheer brilliance. Utter genius.
Great job! Thanks for doing this! Keith Moon remains, 'the greatest' rock and roll drummer who ever lived!
This is what rock & roll was supposed to be. I don't give a shit about drugs, self destruction, fame, or shit like that. THIS is rock & roll, to express yourself and your personality through the controlled noise of your instrument.
Theres precision and theres timing. You cannot say Keith's timing is anything but dead on.
Wow, I hear a lot of FLAMS with the kick. It sounds like he was pretty much riding the left kick all the time. Almost all the fills were doubled up between feet and hands. That's freakin crazy! And he played like that all the time. I'll bet that would take more endurance than most metal or punk drummers of today are willing to put out.
The Jimi Hendix of the Drums ( End of Argument )
Sorry but no, Jimi was the Keith Moon of the Guitar.
Imagine they would be in the one band.... 😂
Keith was probably the most musical drummer of his era. Not only did his drumming make the Who what they were, I pretty much think he played a big influence in drummers like Carl Palmer and Bill Bruford, who also not just play rhythm, but play to the melody of a song as well. However, there will never, ever be another drummer like Keith Moon.
+Brian Washington Considering neither Bruford nor Palmer ever stated Moon was an influence for them I don't think that's an accurate statement. I loved Keith Moon, as he and Entwhistle were far and away the most gifted of the band, but Moon's influence was to later drummers.
Bruford and Palmer were influenced more by jazz drummers like Buddy Rich rather than Moon.
+Brian Washington Triewer is correct on his point. Palmer got most of his stuff from Buddy Rich. Bruford came into Yes all ready playing Jazz style drumming. He has said himself that upon joining Yes he was playing Jazz and that nobody in the band told him to stop, so he didn't. That was what made them stand apart from most rock drummers. Keith was just organized chaos behind a drum kit. He was a beast, and very influential but not to those particular drummers. You are right about there never being another like Keith Moon though.
Yep. However, I still think they are the most melodic drummers I ever heard if there is such a thing.
+Brian Washington He made other drummers work! Many of his contemporaries became better (more interesting) drummers because of Keith. Mick Avory of The Kinks became a much better drummer, as did Graeme Edge of The Moody Blues, and Bobby Elliot of The Hollies (among others).
+John Thomas Unfortunately Keith Moon didn't left heirs. A drummer could try to beat the kit with all energy and instinct (he was a chaneller of instinct more than a technical musician) just like Keith did, and could do perfectly ONE time on his life .Just one. He wasn't a theoric of the instrument. Was a player. We don't have a manual that teach how to play as him. He invented all in the time he bashed the parts of the drum kit, like an improvisation. Bash to bash .Is like a guitar player trying to emulate Hendrix. He even didn't readed a music sheet on his life .We have tabs, but not the guy.
This whole drum part is music itself. It has a groove, feel, melody, all of it. Absolutely insane how effortlessly creative he was. For example at 5:26 he finds a dope double-tom roll he likes, rides with it a few times, and then goes 100% ape shit a few bars later. And what's most important about his drumming was that for as heavy a player as he was, he always played with levity. I honestly have no idea how you would teach this style, it's all feel.
Au Natural!
I think it actually was a triplet on his bass drums, he does that alot in his songs if you listen but it works so well so I see why he did it so much lol.
Those four stroke ruffs using hands and feet are classic Moon.
5:20 Keith's "wall of sound" technique: two 20" ride cymbals on opposite ends, with one hand riding between both, and an occasional accent hit with the 18" crash in the middle. I don't think I've seen a drummer do it before or since, mainly because no one's crazy enough to wash out a song with cymbals like he did.
There would have been no, The Who if it wasn't for Keith Moon. To know of Keith's playing is to love it. To not know it, is a loss.
I used to think this was hyperbole- but watching the early part of their career- can’t explain to Qick One- he was on fire. You couldn’t not look to see the drummer, he didn’t disapoint. Heard covers and replacement drummers and they sounded like the took the air out
If you listen superficially, he sounds a bit sloppy. But, if you REALLY listen closely...........................he was brilliant! Moon was like the Robin Williams of drumming.
More like Robin Williams was the Keith Moon of comedy.
Robin Williams stole jokes and that’s a fact. Keith was his own man with his own rhythm.
@@bedford4383 THIS!
The fact people even debate or talk about Keith Moon to begin with, let alone how he's one of the best of all time, shows what a beast he was. No one even cares to watch the drummer and yet Keith Moon changed all that forever. RIP.
No matter what judgement may be passed on Moon's skills .....No one else has ever appeared to be as genuinely happy being a musician then Keith Moon !!!! Hats off to the sheer joy that Moon brought to countless listeners.
As a drummer, absolutely fascinating to hear this. Have heard this song 1,000 times, and now can appreciate Moon's playing in a whole different way. As in...I can understand more fully how he created that wall of sound - and more fully how I could never duplicate it. Ironically, one subtle thing blew me away: a whole bunch of flams using his double kicks to create a much fatter beat. (Subtle technique not at all meant to create a subtle sound.) The Who have never sounded even remotely the same without him. He was the madness, the mayhem, the violence - allowed to be so because Entwistle was the freight train engine.
You could listen to Keith's drumming alone and immediately know it was the Who.
Keith was the Who.
the best rock drummer EVER. Period.
Precision is all relative. I'm astonished at how tight Moonie's playing was, given the dynamic flow and intricacy of what he played. And many of the bits that have been pointed out in earlier comments as "flubs" sound quite right to me, even fantastic!
Everyone has different taste. But writing as a drummer of many years, playing the sort of figures with the feel and dynamic flow he did straight through a song like this without detectable imperfections would be like a billiard player running 10,000 balls. And he NAILED the feel and dynamics!
It's hard to find drummers that will open up like this today. I have to tell the drummers I play with to "solo" the entire time just to get them to even think about letting go of the sale ole' same ole'.. And I don't mean to solo or play over, I just mean to use the damn kit to play lyrically. Unfortunately too many trained drummers get too much shit about having perfect timing, or click tracks or drum machines and they're listening to the wrong people. Keith Moon, Stewart Copland, Bill Bruford, etc.. were lyrical and played musically. If a band walks off the stage while a bassist is playing you should still "hear" the song. Same with the drummer. You're more than the beat.
I second this... can't stand a boring drummer lol
@@stefanm4971 Kansas? Love the band, but the drummer was sleeping.
There's about 3 dropped beats- each one followed by a mindblowing fill NOBODY ON THE PLANET COULD RECREATE.
+Steve Carroll I honestly like the dropped beats. Especially with the way the band was structured, Keith and John were playing lead. They didn't really have to keep perfect time. That was more Pete's job. Makes them sound extremely unique
Tommy Meyer
Dynamics- something lost on most bands.
+Steve Carroll "mindblowing fills" LOL
If you listen to, I think it's Sparks on Live at Leeds, there is a spot where Moon comes back in to a section playing the beat backwards, snare on one, kick on three, and he just run's with it for a bar or two, and I swear, if you're not a drummer, it's not even noticeable... :D
So much shit that Moon did that he gets no credit for - Like the hi hat work on this track! Nobody ever mentions it! But all you hear about toads like Bonham is" what about the ghost notes and shit! SMFH! I'm a drummer, and I know why drummers are thought of as stupid by other MUSICIANS. It's because most revel in non - musicality, if you will. If you beat the fuck out of yer drums like a jackhammer, can play triplets in a solo for a half hour, most drummers will drool at yer feet! That's why musicians hate drummers! And why most drummers hate Moon. He didn't just hammer the drums he played them musically, lyrically and with some artistry. You can't have that as a drummer, or youll be hated by other drummers, because they can't approach the talent level, but they can beat the fuck out of their drums and play triplets for a half hour, like a certain other idolized toad... Bonham!
Added to my Classic Music list.
Thanks for posting. Moon was nuts, but when he was on, there was no one better at driving a band. What an eclectic bunch of players The Who were.
Those fills ! Oh my word Keith could add serious dimension to Pete's music. He left us too soon. Great post, thanks.
I think The Who are the best collections of pure talent ever to manifest into a rock band.
Like a fuckin Siamese octopus. Outstanding. Go on son.
What a nice surprise finding this! Keith was one of a kind, for sure. I believe that he was at his peak while recording this album, just freaking brilliant! I would love to hear his isolated drums on "Bargain"......My all time fave. Thanks for uploading!
He was a powerful energetic drummer .He played it the way he wanted.Im sure it was a challenge for John ,Pete,and Roger to keep up with him .Master of playing odd times at such a crazy tempo.Amazing!!!
Some people say he was sloppy, but he was tight AF
Pure, unfiltered, imperfect, beautiful art.
To the best of my knowledge, the only rock drummer on earth to have EVER had Buddy Rich's seal of approval.
If Buddy, Ringo, Bonzo, AND Elvin were all your fans, and you've gone a half century without being successfully imitated by ANYONE, its empirical: you're probably the best rock drummer who's ever lived.
one very important Moonie fan you forgot is Neil Peart :)
Keith Moon was an animal behind the drums! One of my absolute favorite drummers.
Keith’s drumming tended to follow / shadow or weave around the vocals as opposed to just laying the rhythmic foundation like a typical drummer. This left Pete to do most of the anchoring with his rhythm guitar playing and allowed The Ox to play lead (bass) guitar to add color and flair. Totally bonkers, totally unique. Love The Who.
To all those citing sloppy play, Remember what the great record producer Eddie Kramer says. "Leave the mistakes in. Its what makes it real."
right before the 2nd yeah scream. that fill gets me every time. i love it to bits.
Keith Moon and Gene Krupa...best drummers ever, full of passion, let 'er rip!
My neighbour who called police because leaves fell from my balcony onto her slab of concrete (and about twenty other times for equally silly reasons ) will love this
Moon was to drumming what Jackson Pollock was to painting.
Musician friends and I were just talking about how Moon was impossible to emulate. Unstoppable and cannot be imitated or duplicated. There was only one Keith Moon. And this track, isolated, despite having heard it a zillion times with the band, is even more amazing. Thanks for the post.
This was a lot better than I had expected. I’ve never been a Kieth Moon fan but it’s hard to imagine that The Who would have reached the same level of success w someone else. His original style was such a part of the overall sound.
I feel that Keith had always aspired to be a vocalist, but never had the voice or singing chops for it. So he used the drums as his voice instead. That's why he understood the vocal part very well, and knew how to back it up. He was never meant to be a background drummer ever.
Whether or not you feel that Moon is "technically" proficient, the fact remains that he was light years ahead of everybody in giving drummers their due within the confines of guitar based 'rock' music. Look at EVERY other mediocrity sitting behind a rock-n-roll drum kit from the mid-60s and you see an afterthought. Just "some dude" to round out the numbers of a band. Moon was a virtuoso...and an exhibitionist that just dove-tailed with his era. The lad was born to play rock music.
usmcfutball
When people say technical drummers they just mean straight beat players. Keith played the drums like a real lead instrument.
Something which has never been done before or since.
Yes,Very Well Put,Dovetailed It! Good Mate!
Yes,Amazeing And Inspireing To Watch,Not Like Well A Machine Can Do That!,WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS!
@@lifegoeson2422 in jazz it had been before
Technical and artistic are polar opposites no?
Like a drum set falling down stairs ! The one and only. Fantastic.
What he was doing was interpreting every aspect of the song he played. A style all his own of course. Never to be taken away!
Keith Moon was constantly changing the rhythm here. A great song made all the more better thanks to his drum fills and expert inconsistency.
How can anyone cut down Keith Moon? His drum tracks were done on reel to reel tape, in most cases without a click track, and in one or two takes and from beginning to end. Not like today's drummers who use Pro Tools recording software to slide over and fix their imperfect playing and make it sound processed and stale. Not like today's drummers who play for a few bars, then stop, then punch back in for the next part, then stop, then punch back and so on to finish the song. Then when you see them live they suck and you wonder who the hell played on the album. Pro Tools the drummer did. ;-) Come on people.. Keith is being talked about to this day for a reason. 50 years to be exact. Most drummers who play these days on rock recordings all sound the same. Their character and style are swallowed up by technology. No one sounds like Keith Moon because they let him do what he wanted. He may not be the best but he is unique and he is a legend who influenced a ton of us drummers. ;-)
"And back in my day, we had to walk up hill, both ways, to get to school!"
FilmNerd85 i agree with the guy explaining how Keith moon is unique and a legend.But i cant stop laughing about the up hill both ways.
amen...........
barkingeye Keith and others like Baker made huge strides and gains in the way rock music evolved, many bands these days are stagnant, its very odd that no bands since then have really had any amazing songs like this, no one has topped them. This band was truly amazing and Keith was 3/4 of their sound.
barkingeye Not everyone does that. Where do you get the thing where he did it in one or two takes? They probably made more takes than that cause you have the whole band playing together and you're looking for a take where everyone plays well. Usually takes 4-5 takes to get that no matter what,
Keith was fantastic on those drums! 🥰❤️🥁👏🏻👏🏻
Terrific. Complete chaos but yet real power and groove. Great sound too!
Best drummer ever. Period.
Your not basing that comment fro THIS video are you? this was terrible.
Oh dear, we have a backbeat snob…..
LOL. not really. Just not a big fan of this guy. WAY overrated, IMO. Not saying he's bad, but there are 50 drummers off the top of my head that are much beter.
misterzero666 Well, better technically and skill wise? Because that matters to a certain degree honestly. It's about the feeling and creativity that makes a good drummer.
Fair enough. But I can't get passed the apparent randomness of his rolls and crash cymbal hits. There is no rhyme or reason to them. They come anywhere at any time. which is an artistic expression, to be sure, just seems like chaos....
amazing how he played with the vocals
thanks for posting this. The man himself said he was the best "Keith Moon"-style drummer, so there ya go.
I've listened to him for 50 years and only recently came to the realization it was the base drum that truly separated him.
My God, how great he was.
Very interesting soundtrack. Great to hear Keith's contribution to this superb track. Two things struck me in particular on listening to it. Firstly it's so good to hear something different from the standard backbeat drumming style used by almost everyone else. And secondly, towards the end, when a lot of people's arms might be getting too tired to function properly, Keith doesn't simplify his input or ease off. He actually increases his drumbeats to an almost constant barrage, just like he used to do with the shorter tracks. To try and copy this would not be possible without fitness training and a fair bit of experience with a drum kit, I think.
+Blues fan Townsend said that Keith performed each show as if it were his last! I saw them twice, in 68 (before catching fire in the USA) and 71 (when they were on top). Two different but totally awesome shows, and Keith had me on my feet throughout both shows! They became a shell without him!
I was trying to listen to Keith Moon's double-bass playing...it sounded like he was normal with right foot leads and then all of a sudden the double bass lead sounds changed like he was starting with his left foot...I never heard of a drummer doing this in a middle of a song...Amazing and Genius!!!
I can't get over the double bass fills. He's playing both of them simultaneously! Then, he throws in quads!! Crazy!
For those of you that have faulted Keith for his lack of perfection... therein lies ART. Perfection isn't art, it's roboticism and it's boring as hell. Ya got something you think is better? Post it. I dare you.
+Lesley Morgan 100% spot on!
+John Thomas That's why so much modern music is very uninspiring because it's played by session musicians who have had their artistic skills smothered.
Lesley Morgan Must be my crowd too..The amount of drummers playing the same thing..A fill is something they do rarely..And when they do it's - Is that all? And the most annoying thing - Rock drummers playing that same tired hip-hop beat to supposedly Rock songs. Do they another beat? Did you know the hi-hat is capable of producing 32 different sounds? To listen to today's drummers you wouldn't think so. I keep hearing "Good bands are out there." Where?
+Edward gbone Well surgery isn't really an art form, is it?
what the hell does a surgeon have to do with drumming? That is a horrible example to use for your argument...Keith Moons art of drumming is amazing but his lack of perfection was never going to kill anyone!
the work of a mad genius....
This is the best thing. Thank you.
He was just an intuitive drummer, listening to the song and adding to it like a songwriter but in a very unique tuned in way. No clicks, no edits, no over dubs - just listen to in-fills all the way through, you'd think they just wouldn't work but they are part of the song. Hardly any drummer do this now - it's all very clinical!
For those Zepp fanboys crediting JB for 'talking Keith through this' - stop fantasizing.
The Who had already recorded this in New York (there is aversion w Leslie West on lead guitar playing sitting in with Pete). They had already played it live at the Young Vic Theater and recordings.
Glynn Johns was hired when the band returned to the UK to redo the tracks. Johns set them up live as a three piece, Moon, Entwistle and Townsend and got this in two takes iirc. Johns has said the fantastic energy on the album is because Who's Next in many ways was a quasi live album. Vocals and some horns, synth guitar & violin added later.
Moon was the first drummer to play to click tracks of that generation and Townshend and Glynn Johns said Moon adapted flawlessly. (The later Quadrophenia tapes were more tricky).
So this 'isolated track' in fact was part of an in studio band live performance. AND don't forget Moon often made up new versions on stage on the fly (see the Swansea boot, etc., etc.).
The question isn't whether someone can copy this today- but who can create it of nothing live w Entwistle and Townshend in studio and again on stage. There's a reason Jimmy Page wanted to nick this rhythm section before LZ.
I always knew there was something a little different (that I liked) about the Who's music but I couldn't ever put my finger on what it was. Now that I hear this isolated it was definitely Keith's drumming style that made them sound so different and great.
There's just enough words...if it was just the drum tracks released it would be enough to satisfy.... genious art!!!!
almost 8 minutes of pretty much nonstop drumming in a crazy speed & intensity!
It sounds wild for sure, but don't forget that he was playing to the sample-and-hold synthesizer part, which functioned as a click track. The tempo is consistent all the way through at 135bpm. He pulls a bit ahead at times but comes back to it. Try clicking it out. It's interesting...
There's a reason why you never hear anyone say of another drummer "Oh, he sounds like Moon." No one sounds like Moon. I've heard guys that can emulate Copeland, Peart even Bonham. No one sounds like Moon. No one. Well....maybe Animal from The Muppet Show.
Mathew Priest at times sounds very Moon-ish. But it's a rare best who can capture that sound...
keith = der beste trommler der welt = bis nach 2999 etc. p. p.@@uptoeleven
Endlessly inventive - bloody genius!
After the fade away, his genius shines through. What an epic display