C6 Bennett - A 3 Year Old Debate With Merit on Both Sides
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- Should you or should you not accept C6 Bennett, that is the debate that still manages to come up somewhat frequently despite all the time that has passed. Both sides have reasons to pick and it's up to you which sounds right for you.
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I'll hold out until toggleable cons come out or forever in hopes of a better Phys character that actually wants Bennett.
Toggleable cons would be a useless feature to any other character it would only be used on co-op so your bennett dont ruin someone's ayaka
the captain, probably
@@Alpiwhat still would be an inclusion that hurts no one and could open up some interesting challenges
I agree with you
*BUT*
I personally, I don't want to get toggle constellations,
Since I was a kid, my dad has always told me *"we don't regret our decisions, no matter how bad they were"*
@@AlpiwhatIt’s good for theory-crafters and other testers that already whaled out.
I believe that C6 Bennett doom curse is only applicable to those in the early game or those who played during 1.0-1.6 patch. After Inazuma, a lot of characters now have the explanation of "cannot be overridden" whether in their skill, burst, or passive.
As you said, there are many teams nowadays don't even require Bennett.
I've C6 my Bennett a long time ago. As well as all my friends. It doesn't even affect us or our account in any way.
Its mostly high investment Eula players, and C6 Kazuha players being the main groups who regret C6 Benny. Definitely a minority in the playerbase.
I just wish theyd say something in a dev diary type thing that this was done to counteract C6 Bennett infusion and similar abilities. That way there would be some security going forward
@@LordEckseula is terrible with Bennett
@@TybossMasterif I had eula (which I don’t sadly) i’d personally pair her with, say: sara, layla, raiden, rosaria, jean, charlotte or furina. All those characters I think would work better with her than bennett.
@@LordEcksAnd people who run Melt Ayaka, which I have in the past. So ike 0.000000000001% of the playerbase then 😂😂
Besides pyro Keqing and Zhongli, Bennett's C6 also enables the infamous Thundering Furry team with Razor (for those who don't know, it's basically a burgeon team using Razor as an on-fielder using bennett's C6 infusion to trigger burgeons, while also using his ult's Stand to apply electro and prevent the burning aura, and self-overloading to make a very chaotic and fun experience). I just feel like Hoyo has been widening the scope of characters and the once big Bennett C6 discussion has been more and more pointless as less teams need him and his big big synergies with pyro carries stand out way more than him possibly messing up teams that can function without him regardless.
thundering fury razor is actually a pretty strong team, both in single target and AOE, you just build them with EM and enough ER so that razor can reliably burst every rotation.
@@kuekejuu5057 I appreciate a more up to date perspective on c6 Bennet. All the discussion I have seen is dated and many even specifically name Razor as a character who's potential is ruined by C6 Bennet. What I find most interesting is how people who insist C6 Bennet is horrible admit they have never tried it. How informed is that perspective when they never actually tried it? Looking at just the theoretical of it is pretty silly.
I used to be so scared of C6 Bennett, bc of all the videos that said it was bad. Then I did more research and realized that he affected characters and teams I never planned on using AND helped teams and characters that I ALWAYS use. So the second I got his final constellation, I C6-ed and I'm happy with it ^-^
C6 Bennett can override C6 Kazuha & Lynette, but it's actually a good thing since you can enable Weapon Swirl. Weapon Swirling lets you swirl Pyro in situations that doesn't allow you to do so such as when fighting Elemental enemies (Shielded enemies, Hydro Eidolons/Tulpas, Electro Manifestation etc.).
Jean already allows you to do that with sunfire
But Bennett also infuses the character with Pyro, and the swirl target prioritises the element applied to the character above all, plus Pyro is the stickiest element, it’s hard not to swirl Pyro when standing inside Benny’s ring, C6 or not
@@f.b.iagent3971 Weapon Infusion ≠ Character Infusion.
Weapon Infusion applies an element to your weapon, not on yourself.
Character Infusion applies an element to yourself, not your weapon.
C0 Bennett applies an element to your character.
C6 Bennett applies an element to your character AND your weapon.
Elemental Reactions also applies to your weapons. But the only way to trigger reactions out of it is by infusing with another element. Take note that any abilities that specifically state that the infusion cannot be overriden actually means that you cannot apply another element to the weapon for a specific duration.
@@lafeechloe6998 Yes but this method is cooler :)
I use bennett, kazuha, and a DPS yelan and it works fantastically. I always had trouble constantly applying pyro bc yelan does best when enemies constantly have pyro so she can vape 100% of the time.
I enabled it and I saw no difference. The teams that I use him for were not affected by the pyro infusion, but the annoying marker is gone. So a win-win
Plus it allows you to play Thundering Furry which imo is the third most fun team in the game lol
@@oliviaaargh I don't remember which team that is. Is it the Razor Hyperbloom, but with Burgeon? Because I remember something like that, but with Candace
@@stealthguy6998 Yeah, using Razor, C6 Bennett, Xingqiu and Nahida. It's sooo fun
@@oliviaaargh it does seem pretty fun, I want to try it at some point
Your Pyro characters also enjoy the C6 15 pyro damage bonus
Imagine if Mihoyo added toggleable constellations right after this video, now that would be hilarious (Mihoyo this is a plead to add toggleable constellations, please)
I dont know how long youve had a tiny raccoon running along the bottom of the screen to show how much of the video is left but i love it
i also think certain content creators perpetuated the "C6 bennet is bad and if you activate it you ruin your account dummy" aggression a little too much making people afraid to do so. I did it and dont regret it at all. my favorite element in gensshin is pyro and the dmg boost really helps
yeah there are a lot of people who are vehemently against C6 Bennett because that's like the one thing they think is absolute, but they just never question it.
I def know which content creator you’re talking about…
Keqing was in ruined because of Bennett
yea but now with hyperbloom id argue she doesnt need him @@VrtielA6300
@@VrtielA6300 most players pair Keqing with dendro characters now so c6 Bennett doesn't matter
I love C6 Bennett as it literally allows anyone to be a Pyro DPS. I ran a team, Furina Crimson Witch Vape and it was one of the funniest teams I ever built.
Pyro Shogun is the funniest thing I have seen. MASSIVE pyro and overload damage, with just normal attacks reacting with her skill. Just slap pyro artifacts on your Shogun, pair her with C6 Bennet and watch the hilarity ensue.
@@Laereioh... It gets better when Cher debut with raiden rerun(idk how to spell her name properly sorry)
@Laerei playing this right now with Chevreuse is so so hilarious
The funniest thing about this debate for me is that I would've been anti c6 but about a year ago my account was hacked and when I recovered it my bennet had is c6 active which made me realize that only like 2 teams are actually affected by his c6 in a negative way.
Shit man, he hacked your account only to C6 Bennet...
The hacker really just did that to get rid of the red notification 💀
I can't ever enable C6 bc I main Benny with Chongyun for that sweet quick melt dmg. Both of them have kits that shortens CD and seeing as Benny's skill already has a low CD, it's a really neat niche team comp.
I always watch this as someone with c1 bennet
I C6'ed Bennett when I got Yoimiya. Do I regret it? Nope. In fact - it was one of the best decisions.
I don't play with Physical characters and most characters have their own infusion (Alhaithem, Raiden, Tartaglia). My XL and Yoimiya love that C6 constalation (who doesn't love a bit more dmg).
So... I personally recommend you C6 it, UNLESS - you are NEW player with LIMITED character roaster OR you are EULA player.
C6 him. It doesnt hurt.
Even for Eula, her best team is now Eula/Furina/Mika/Raiden. Again, Bennett isn't mandatory anymore for her
ngl i just did it cause i hated the !
thats about it
I’m glad to know the pyro buff does apply to bow and catalysts as well. When I got Lyney, I was very close to unlocking that last constellation for Bennett before I reread it and thought it only applied to melee units. That being said, I do like using him mainly in my Physical Xinyan team, so it is still a big consideration for me
I have c6 Bennett, and as an Eula main I often use him to show her burst DMG, because the pyro infusion helps Eula not defeat everything before her 30 stacks is built up. Still then I sometimes have problems geting the hp of my opponent below 50%.
I think with the introduction of chev in 4.3, those keqing / bennet teams are going to be popping up again so it might be fun to revisit those. I have c6 Lynette and c5 bennet and although it’s fun and all, I actually really prefer Lynette as a sub dps (probably because I don’t have faruzan c6). Open world she’s very serviceable at c6 tho and her self healing on her E.
Bennett's pyro infusion is vital for Razor's best team "Thundering Furry". It's also helpful in Sunfire teams, as although the effect is great at maintaining a pyro aura, it can struggle creating the aura in the first place and that little bit extra pyro application gives it the edge it needs
I like having options so my Bennett remains at C5 for the foreseeable future.
I know being C6 gives him new options but honestly, I don't use those options at the moment. Like the option to allow Kaeya to melt his own ult, but I don't use Kaeya at all.
I have no use for his pyro infusion on any of the teams I want to use him on and on teams I want to use him, being C6 gets in the way.
What makes it better for me is that leaving him at C5 gives me the option to C6 him at any time but going C6 don't give me any option to op out of it.
Unless they add a constellation toggle, which might happen but unlikely, I won't be unlocking that constellation at all.
As a Lyney main I'm at C5 and looking forward to getting my final Bennett copy from the shop or the standard banner or hopefully from a future banner I'm saving for (currently saving for Itto and Arlecchino)
I wish infusions in general were more considered. We hadn’t even got geo infusions until just now with navia and still don’t have a character that can give an external electro/anemo infusion
C6 Kazuha and C6 Bennett actually have a really fun interaction -- whenever Kazuha tries to infuse himself but he's in C6 Benny's burst, it'll swirl on top of Kazuha, because Pyro+Anemo on his weapon = swirl.
Then, since Kazuha's C6 makes it so that EM scales his damage up across the board, you can actually just take the ol' EM goblet instead of trying to make a % dmg goblet work on him, and it'll scale his damage up VERY similarly to how it'd be if he took an anemo% or pyro% goblet instead -- only the damage will go up regardless of which type of damage you're doing.
You can, in essence, play C6 Kazuha as if he were Pyro or Anemo, without even switching loadouts. It's pretty cool.
C6 Kazuha still wants an Anemo goblet because the C6 only increases his normal, charged and plunging attack DMG, and not his skill and burst which still contribute a large portion of his damage, especially in AoE situations where he shines most.
@@alpha4935 His skill and burst damage go up with EM because his skill and burst use EM for swirls they cause. If your Q/E are swirling, the damage goes up with EM. If they aren't, your team needs more application.
I finally c6'd him about a month ago just for the heck of it. At this point, I rarely even use Benny, and even when I do, it's on teams where he has zero chance of ruining anything, and having the boost for characters like Xiangling, Diluc and Dehya is nice. Zero shade for anyone who hasn't c6'd him; it's silly that Hoyo hasn't made cons toggle-able.
8:37, Kazuha watches a poor girl drown for 5 seconds like a psychopath.
Anywho, I don't necessarily regret activating C6, but I know it's kinda limited my Eula. Granted, she still hits like a truck, so it's not too bad. IT just makes her artifacts a bigger chokepoint than they were before.
Also, any chance you'd do a video on thoughts about MHY revamping/redesigning characters? With Star Rail having pure HP scalers, it made me wonder if any of the characters who's entire kit scales off something other than attack (Baizhu, Yun Jin) would get their normal attacks to be scaled off the alternative stat. We've seen them give Fontaine characters new cons that effect their normal attack talent, but thta is different from changing a past character.
albedo C2 changes him into full DEF scaler
maybe there are more characters but only albedo comes to my mind
HSR’s pure-HP scalers are all supports who are not supposed to contribute (much) to the team’s ass-kicking level. I’m talking about Lynx, Huohuo, and Fu Xuan; Blade technically scales off both ATK and HP, so the general buffers aren’t useless for him. (Huohuo has an ATK buff, which means she can’t self-serve!)
@@darylewalker6862 You're 100% right, but to me, that just makes it more baffling that we don't see alternative scaling in Genshin.
You can do some whacky builds in Star Rail, but being a turn-based game, the numbers and role designs limit the viability of a character acting as DPS. You're not clearing MoC with Lynx as your main DPS.
In contrast, investment (money or in-game resources) + skill + game knowledge can make any character capable of being a DPS in the abyss. So with their roles not being so hard-defined, why not make all their talents scale to the same stat?
That being said, not a big deal at all, just thought it might make a semi-interesting topic.
I C6ed my Bennett recently right when I got his last constellation because I wanted to try out a lot of wacky team comps that actually worked
7:00
mona with r5 prototype amber and instructors (for vape / melt) or noblesse (for your ayaka). plus it becomes a freeze team, which means it'll need less healing and that mona's buff lasts longer
Never gonna C6 him for 1 reason; it ruins his ability to be the on-field DPS character w/ supporting Chongyun enabling him to Melt all his skills by infusing his normals with Cryo. I've got a lot of nostalgia for this team I ran wayyyyyy back in the day and even though I rarely run it now, I still want to have the option.
Mine is forever c5, as a benny main, melt with chongyun is my favorite team
I ended up C6ing my Bennet but that was mainly just cus I got fed up of the red dot being there, but I've also noticed no problems with having him C6 either personally and I don't see that changing in the future
Back in my day, I was someone who was really trying to be a Keqing main. Before I could get Keqing (it took well over a year of playing), I heard about the negative effects of C6 Bennett on her physical playstyle, which is what I ended up building towards.
Years later, I'm really liking Lynette's style as well, and I play a lot more with characters I like than anything else, but I still never C6'd my Bennett because I knew of his Infusion Overwriting.
A bunch of people criticize me for having a "Genshin Boomer" mindset, but I still stand by my decisions until Toggling Cons becomes a thing.
The probability that any future good physical character wants Bennet is low, because if we get one, they will probably want to be using the Superconduct reaction for the 40% physical res shred, and irrespective of C6 Bennet causes a LOT of Pyro application to all enemies inside his Burst, which kinda gets in the way of the Superconduct since Pyro reacts with and clears both Electro and Cryo.
Also, for some reason the developers keep trying to make physical damage work specifcally on Cryo characters, and as such they just need Electro support to get the Superconduct, and Kuki just so happens to provide off-field Electro damage while also being a healer.
it really is the lack of toggle that makes me never wanna turn it on.
Day 1 player here and Ayaka main. I have barely used Bennett together with her, and if i did, it was in coop, which i dont use them anymore due to having Kokomi now.
I was quite afraid of enabling C6, after so much, but i don't mind as much as I thought i would, and the extra damage I've got in National is very pleasing so yeah, that's my experience. I really hope they do add constellations toggles in the future regardless, it being in a huge qol update like 4.3 is or, in a main x.0 update
Last character that don’t like c6 Bennett was Ayaka back in 2.0, after that characters can’t be affected by it
A for fun team i use cant have c6 benny, its bennet and chongyun together, the autos will apply cryo for the E to melt, chongyun will reduce bennets cd with c2, so its 100k+ E's with 1,5s cd
7:53 as a c6 lynette main with c6 bennett, i just run her in teams like jean/faru/furina
but this also enables me to do double swirl vv vape stuff (ive run yoi/yelan/lynette/benny for this)
i’m never enabling it unless i get a pyro dps that really wants him and benefits heavily
I was actually shocked when I noticed that my Kazuha didn't have an Anemo infusion anymore when I was in Benny's burst of a friend. Over the years I collected Kazuha's constellations since he is my boy and for that I won't give up my Anemo infusion. Personally I cannot understand why they make constellations for a character which includes an elemental infusion but don't add the "cannot get overwritten" feature. miHoYo only includes that phrase for newer characters while older characters have a severe deficit. For example if I would decide to activate my C6 Benny I won't be able to use my Kazuha with him anymore since Kazuha cannot utilise the Pyro Infusion without running a meme build. I think that miHoYo should add the "cannot get overwritten" feature in every older character which has an elemental infusion in their kit. Especially the infusions given by constellations should include this phrase all the time because you have to pull this specific character multiple times just to get disappointed. For me it's C6 Kazuha and it feels like they don't appreciate the people using a from the game's perspective support as the Main DPS :/
noelle has it. so it isn't really just an old character thing, it's on purpose.
@@GenshinYuppe Noelle is different tho. There are characters who have their elemental infusion in their burst included for that Noelle is not a good example…
I C6ed him a few month ago because I wanted the dmg buff for yanfei and I didn't want the red mark, and frankly I don't really regret it. I don't ever play physical and my Ayaka has been benched for a while now, so it doesn't bother me that much. And I'm also kinda happy not to have to put bennett in every team now, it makes me want to build more characters.
I can't think of a single downside for toggle-able constellations, even back in the 2.2 Labyrinth Warriors event there was a temporary buff that would increase your party's constellations by 1 (it visually worked on Aloy, but no actual effect), so the only reason I think it'll never be an option is probably some obtuse lore to gameplay explanation
I'd love to be proven wrong and Hoyoverse adds it, then it's a win for everyone
While there's no downside, I think there's no upside for other characters either. I mean, why would you want to toggle off Neuvillette's C6, for example? To make the game less boring?
I can think of one which one be more trolls in co op, but it’s not really a big deal anyways since we already have infusion characters
Since initially getting Bennett C1 all the way back in 1.2 (only wanted 1 but I ended up with 2 copies) multiple years later, I have a c4 Bennett, he doesn’t seem to like me, so C6 has luckily not been a concern
I C6 my Bennett. I was once in a coop and I went with ayaka, while someone else went with Bennett. During battle, Ayaka kept dealing Pyro damage when she supposed to be cryo. So I asked if that Bennett was C6. The player, annoyed, said yes and called me a meta slave then left. My Bennett is C6, but please people, when in Coop, always say if your Bennett is C6 to allow your teammates to choose appropriate characters.
even with eula now you play furina with her so the infusion on bennett's c6 lets you vape her normals which negates the damage loss from her autos being pyro.
imagine making an entire video about c6 Bennett without talking about his DPS team with Chongyun.
like bro, Bennett is absolutely INSANE in melt teams, he's the only characters with a fast pyro application that's also slow enough to consistently melt if you do your rotations right, and c6 ruins it because now you apply too much pyro.
What would be awesome would be to be able to toggle (in settings) elemental infusion overrides.
c6ong my benett helped me clear abyss for the first time. i run him on a raiden hyperrcarry and was wasting time trying to kill two electro immune specters. infusing kazuha with pyro, swirl, benett e helped me shave off the couple seconds I needed. he can really help w any elemental weaknessess like that. nicely rounds out the team.
It helps if I’m trying to forward vape or melt something because it’s one more means of application
I enabled it and my only regret is that I can't play Melt Main DPS Bennett or Thundering Fury Main DPS Bennett as an option. Eula prefers Furina/Mika/Raiden to Bennett, Razor can use C6 Bennett in Thundering Furry (EM Razor) which I'm glad I can do since I enabled it, physical Zhongli with Crescent Pike can use YunJin/Cryo/Electro as his team. I'm sure if a polearm character with 5 normal attacks that hit 4 times each to really proc Crescent Pike's passive a broken amount comes out, they'll also have plenty of options besides Bennett. Be it Furina, Mika, Raiden, Fischl, Yun Jin, Zhongli, or some other character they release alongside that character that buffs attack speed.
With Furina, C6 Bennett works really good to keep infusing pyro, so Furina can reverse vape more.
I started using Kazuha, Bennett, Xiangling and Furina, and this team came out really good as my Furina is C2.
Stumbled upon this video. Dint watch the video, just read the comments below. A worth pyro DPS has come out and it's time to c6 my Bennett. Arlecchino let's go!!
My problem with Bennet is that unlike some other characters, he works one way when you get him, and then suddenly he functions an entirely different way when you get C6 and you can never go back, forcibly forever changing how you would use him, even if it's not THAT big of a change.
I c6 my Bennet ages ago and have no issues. This back in Enkanomiya. I realized the team I run for Eula doent need Bennet, and other my other carries at the time didnt scale off atk. But my Diluc, Yoimiya liked the pyro boost. As time went on, its never been an issue.
I can completely see c6 Bennet being great for certain teams, but I would personally rather not risk making him better for some teams, but unusable for others I may want in the future.
with more pyro characters that could benefit from the 15% buff, C6 bennet is the meta now
Man im glad i didnt give in to the red dot 😂 i honestly dint have any strong feelings towards Bennett's c6, but until we can turn cons on and off, i wont activate it
I c6’d my bennett usually my teams go for a specific reaction and he doesn’t fit on those teams cause he’d mess it up. But like keqing thrives with dendro and em now so she really doesn’t need him even tho her personal dmg doesn’t benefit that much. There’s still tons of options when it comes to support most of the characters that get screwed by c6 bennett love yunjin anyways and the ones that are meta with yunjin love both (aka yoimiya) then for physical there are clear physical buffers like rosaria and mika and since eula is the number one physical dps you also get cryo resonance. But I kinda only recommend c6ing him if you have a lot of supports for your elements.
I have a c6 bennett on my lyney team which has bennett, lyney, xiangling and kazuha, and honestly c6 bennett has been amazing, he buffs lyney AND xiangling's damage, this team is how i got my first ever crit over 50K (now i can hit up to 90K but i'm still planning on improving them)
People forget sara exists. She gives the bennet buff and fills a burst dps roll... She even surpasses bennet at c6 in electro teams. Sure she doesn't heal but her damage makes up for any healer you put in the team. Raiden/Sara/yaoyao/flex works ridiculously well. If you got nahida you can go Raiden/Sara/nahida/jean. Sara just doesn't work well with eula unfortunately, but she is still as good as bennet.
As a Lyney main, I c6ed him the instant I could. That extra pyro DMG bonus is juicy and the extra pyro application is nice for swirling. He also enables Xiangling DPS
Xiangling is a DPS though 💀
That part of the video where Ayaka has a level 1 weapon, and has to reset the boss attempt.
Of course, this is why I scoff at every mention of artifact load-outs. One character, one weapon. I don't move them around. But I don't enjoy micromanaging, like, at all.
Did back when i didn't know any better and yet still to find any reason for me to hate it or has stopped me from any content
I remember that in some fight events the game decided to leave the same Bennett on C5 (their Bennett)So much about that
not true
Test characters are always C0 or C3, there was only one exception to this in an event where the test characters had the same amount of constellations as your owned characters had, unless you didn't have the test character, in that case they would be C0. I remember posting on FB saying: "Funny that the test Mona is C2" and being elucidated "no, your mona is C2 and that's why your test mona is C2"
The only reason I keep Bennett at C5 is because I use Eula.
If there are other good buffer for Physical and heal, I C6 my Bennett.
I would have done that if Mika is equally as good or better, but he's not.
I enabled it back in 1.1 and never regreted it lol.
Maybe someday we will get an insane physical Res shredder, the problem with phys is not only lack of reactions but the fact almost all new enemies and bosses are getting massive phys res
Superconduct will only shred 40% just 5% more than VV set
But the enemies usually have 10-40 edmg res
And 30-70 phys res
If we got a phys shredder that could close that gap then phys would start to shine again
I C6 benny not because I got sick of the red dot but I really want dehya and I shouted if I got dehya I'll C6 benny and I got dehya at the standard banner
having him at C6 is not really that bad for me because we now have dedicated supports for each element and as it is said in the video, most popular teams right now does not include benny to begin with. It is a bummer not being able to use benny in my eula team but still not the worst decision
If we're hoping for a top tier NA/CA physical dps to be released then I hope that those units have a mechanic where their attacks cannot be infused and convert the supposed infusion to damage increase or other stat buff. I think it's a pretty unique concept to have having benny chongyun and candace giving infusions to one unit to stack buffs
90% of the decisions on my account have been to better my favorite character, Yoimiya.
I pulled Yelan for yoimiya, I pulled c6 yunjin for Yoimiya, I pretty much only use Zhongli for Yoimiya, and then decided after over 6 months of having it unchecked, C6'ed my Bennett. I never regretted it.
Realistically, the only character it fucks up is Eula, and I benched her a month after getting her. Even Keqing's best team doesn't have Bennett anymore.
Razor actually wants c6 Bennett so he can really play Thundering Furry
I'm keeping my Bennett c5 , I want to keep him versatile.
Yes I know Mika & all these other supports exists.
But Bennett is just so universal that it's not worth it for me.
Some details on how infusions work are now incorrect. This occurred after Alhaitham was added, and they seemed to have added what I'll call 'fusion removal' to the possibilities. If you are infused via Chongyun, C6 Bennett, Candace, and may have even just sprinted with Ayaka, its possible you'll deal physical damage. (I have a video called 'Mystery Damage' on my channel where I just use these infusions at the same time resulting in my hits rotating through different damage types.(My videos typical exist just for forum discussions on the wiki.))
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I find C6 Bennett hit or miss. I enabled it since I disliked his character so I figured I'd enable it so I could create meme teams, thus having a Nilou and such who can deal 20k pyro damage per hit for the lulz. The silly builds made me rather enjoy him and the game, but it hurt a few teams I wanted to build later on, such as my Physical Keqing who hits for 23k+25k with her charged attack with out Bennett, and I would have loved to push this further, but now I can't. Then there is melt Ayaka who can enable have C6 Bennett create Pyro Shenhe allowing Ayaka's burst to melt... but then Bennett turns Ayaka's melee attacks into pyro... which hurts some potential meme builds. (Aloy with a 4* weapon can do 50k with her N1 via Shenhe+Yun Jin+Bennett, but Ayaka can't use this team if Bennett is C6. Luckily we know have Wriothesley who is more dependable than Aloy who needs 4 coils to preform these 50k normals.)
So hit and miss. :)
My only reason to C6 Bennett was to get rid of the red notification 😅
I just C6 my Bennet and Man o man! He instanstly boosted my melt team(with Rosaria not ayaka), Pyro mono team, Vapo and Overload team!! My Klee has become Pyro dps monster😍
I'd rather not C6 my Bennett because I enjoy the idea of normal attacking with characters that shouldn't be played optimally with their normal attacks. Granted, Mika alleviates this but I like the idea of having both of my sons in a team. Like you said, I like having him as an option, always.
I still have c5 Bennett but for different reason. I just don't like infusion my character normal attack with elements. Idc about spiral abyss that much sometimes if I feel it or rely need extra primogem I will try it otherwise I just don't care also in open world I don't use but char burst regularly,i only use their burst when there is a group of enemies so I could get my burst back or there is strong enemy except that I just use my char skills and normal attack (and this is the reason why I crowned my raiden and kazuha normal attack). I'm agree with ratheil you do whatever you like or want it's your game and your accent, you should enjoy it.
I c6'ed and didn't even notice the 15% pyro bonus....but using NA for shield breaking is nice I guess
its not a bad choice but i am only waiting because mabey in future there might be a very good phy dps i might like
My personal hope is not that bennett becomes good for a physical dps, my hope is that one day a physical/superconduct support around bennett’s power level will be released.
Yep. Personally, I'd like for Superconduct itself to also actually benefit Cryo/Electro dmg, but a Bennett-level Physical/Superconduct support and/or an actual Physical off-field dps would also be very welcome additions.
You didn’t mention it but with the release of chevreuse I think C6 bennett will get even more use. I can totally see like a C6 bennett driver with her causing overload as a nice comp and having off field elctro units like fishcl and beidou as a fun viable option. That pyro dmg bonus will be nice for other pyro dmg teammates as well if you want to put him in a support roll. But meta in this game doesn’t matter and ppl should just play the game they want to as long as they have fun in their own way.
Yeah i see a Team with C6 DPS Crimson Benny, Chevreuse, Fischl & Xiangling.
Beidou is sure a Option, but because of no crowd control + Overload its more of a team for single boss Fights wich is the weakness of Beidou
@@krummesblech yea that works to beidou is also situational but at least it’s a consideration. That team would have been nice vs those concentrated beasts back in 3.7.
Oh boy did I misread that title. Kinda disappointed I don't get to see some well thought-out arguments from a 3 year old lmao
Why are we still doing this three years later
ive personally always seen C6 bennet as one of those cons that is entierly acc dependent. i specificlly havnt when i first had the opportunity is because of overload keqing is not vary good for most mob fights, so i keeped C5 so i could buff keqing in electro charge teams and not have overload pain. since dendros release though, for keqing, the better option isnt to use bennett with her anymore. i dont care about getting eula or ayaka, so that side never was a care for me. the only char i can think of that i would slightly play around with that does have a downside is freminet, the full extend of that one is not entierly bad, probably could make a melt team with him with weird setups, but probably not worth. and razor has more going for him infusioning pyro because his burst gives a additional electro attack instead of overwritting anything creating weird builds like thundering furry. do i see use of doing it currently, i guess. but im in a position to not care about the optimization of those teams and more would just play them for fun.
I will forever have my exclamation point :(
Funny, I C6'd Bennett by accident while I was doing a test with Eula. Immediately after realizing, I did a Pyro Eula test. And a Pyro Keqing test.
As a Noelle and Ittou enjoyer, I enabled Bennett immediately just for the fun of trying things out. I always move too much around to benefit from his burst, and as someone who enjoys heeheehaahaa claymore characters go smash smash, the idea of any element infusion is fun! 😂
One argument in favor of C6 Bennett is, ironically, Razor who has a crazy "Self Dendron't Over-Hyper-Load BurgeonBloom Vapetional" team by going EM with C6 Bennett, Xingqiu and Dendro for some crazy simultaneous reactions that are only possible with Razor's weirdness of not infusing himself while at the same time adding Electro damage to himself and having fast application
Edit because I found the ridiculous name
My Bennett will remain C5 until there's an option to toggle
I don't like pyro, 15% pyro bonus does nothing to me
my bennett is c6, i did it for my diluc, and now he also buffs my lyney. xiao and scara, who i always used him with too, aren't affected by c6 bennett. i do not regret it. my ayaka plays permafreeze.
i am eagerly waiting for c6 bennett for the ultimate yelan vaporize (i built her as dps)
I just got 6 constellations for Bennet, I haven't upgraded him to c6 yet, and I decided to watch this video. I came out still being confused. I started this game like 5 months ago lmao.
some teams will not be able to exists with bennet c6. So like Ayaka melt team. Keqing electro or physical team are gone since bennet will make her do fire dmg instead of electro. Eula is physical dps and bennet increases her dmg nicely but now he would overwrite her physical dmg to fire making her do massively less dmg. Same for ayaka and Keqing their element being overwritten means they drop by a lot in dps unless you did those meme builds where you gave them fire increase weapons and artifacts.
Basically if you c6 him he makes teams that benefit from fire stronger while many wont care and some teams can no longer have him in the team. So its flexibility if you stop at c5 all teams that benefit from him can have him and if you get him c6 some teams can no longer take him and at times that might require 2 character swaps to make up for the fact he healed and buffed.
The biggest downside of not enabling c6 it's dealing with that annoying notification 😵💫. I could not stand a single day... So I enabled it
only best way to fix this is if mihoyo change the c6 constellation effect or increase.
my problem is that little dot driving me crazy, tbh lol
Me after 26 months playing and only a C2 Bennett - "well this debate excludes me for the time being"
I have Bennett's luck pulling for him, only got his second constellation because of 4.0
When I first played Genshin in the days/weeks after it first came out. I loved using Razor as my main DPS with Bennett backing him up. That's probably why I still refuse to give Bennett his C6. My Razor is ready for the day Physical DPS gets a buff. :3 Likely. Many, Many, Years from now.
I activated his c6 on both my accounts and haven’t run into any problems yet. I don’t use physical characters, my Keqing doesn’t use Bennett since I use her in aggravate teams, my Ayaka doesn’t need Bennett, Hu Tao doesn’t need him, and the rest of my characters are bows or catalysts. Ever since Sumeru came out, more teams need Bennett less and less. I still use him heavily on my main account though.
I can't forget about Keqing's banner in 1.3 been ruined by Hu Tao and Bennett. And Bennet just teamwiped everyone in Shogun's puppet co-op.
Enabling thundering furry is enough to make it worth it.
All new characters that have infusions can't be overwritten
6:36 this is the central reason I don’t unlock C6 Bennett lol I enjoy Melt Ayaka way too much to screw it up and make it more finicky with c6.
Even though imI only use Bennett with Xiangling and nuke showcase, I don't like his c6, sometimes i like messing with na/ca "nuke" and his c6 wont allow me to do that
I think mihoyo is dumb but even i dont think theyre dumb enough not to know how their most widely used healers constellation works. They obviously make new characters with him in mind by making their infusions not overridden. Theyve also moved towards non-atk scaling characters lately to give us variety outside of bennett teams and balance characters with his existence in mind. Some enemies even seem designed to counter him by hitting you much harder when youre pyro infused.
Im a eula main myself but i HIGHLY doubt some new physical character will come out that NEEDS bennett but specifically not c6... if you really think about it, theres leaks on characters months away and no signs of any such character. If such a character comes out it could be years from now and whos to say we're even still playing by then?
Its completely illogical but people are so afraid of the CHANCE that it happens, despite being able to get a huge damage boost and new team comps enabled in the CURRENT version.
I find it wild.
I recently c6 my Bennett and it’s perfectly fine. I can’t believe I left it for 2 years