Great Game, Amazing Miniatures… What’s the Catch?
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
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0:00 Intro
1:45 Setting the Atmosphere
3:10 Important things First
5:08 Let there be Light
6:56 Details Can Be Easy
10:54 Where to Phone It In
14:29 Where I Screw It Up
15:04 Final Thoughts and Grand Reveal - Jak na to + styl
Someone pointed out that CZcamsrs alway have their mouth hanging open in thumbnails and now I can’t unsee it 😮😮😮
The soy face, a weird learned expression trying to convey joy, shock, and excitement all at once.
now look at some of the games on your Play store, and see how many of them depict a character with their mouth open or in a grimace.
It's called soy face and it's stupid af.
Trend popularised by Mr Beast because it had the most thumbnail appeal and seemed to work best with the algorithm, but now he does different things because he thinks that everyone doing that has made the technique lose its competitive edge.
i need more of the minis talking to eachother and i didnt know i did
Came here to make this exact comment
It's very Python. In the best way.
@@elfmastercool4734Yep. Just need to throw in some semprini.
"to understand, you still need the $400 base set" the fucking WHAT
the amount of game in the core game, more than justifies the big price tag :)
The title has nothing to do with the video, really.
I'm sure it's difficult to resist invoking the death of warhammer in your title when you know it's going to double your ad revenue, so I can't blame the guy, but yes, it's very annoying.
Click bate ahoy
Are you new to CZcams? 😅
This is SOP in CZcams land. I would have watched Jon’s video either way, because he’s an absolute legend and joy to in our hobby
Welcome to CZcams. Clickbait everywhere.
Can confirm, watched the IT mini series as a kid, did not take a shower for a month. Was afraid to use the bathroom.
For me it wasn't IT, but a TV show called Tales From The Dark Side. The episodes themselves weren't too bad, but the intro had given me an insane level of fear for aspen groves.
@@3Xero3 Jaws for me. No way I'd get up and go to the washroom at night.
The Miniseries messed me up, the book is somehow on a while other level
Kingdom Death looks rad, but the starter set i saw was like $800 with some of the expansions are $1k+ on their site, so that's a hard pass
Even worse when you live outside the US. I'm in the UK and it's £200+ shipping fees, and then large tariff fees once the items land in the UK. It's a shame because I played it on Tabletop Simulator and it is an amazing game, but the prices are ridiculous.
Whenever I think GW prices are bad I remind myself of KD. Not sure exactly who it's made for, but it's definitely someone with at least a mid six-figure salary.
core game is 400, the big expansion is 300 and first wave expansions total up at bout 800 or so. still somehow cheaper than a 40k army with the amount of unique sculpts lol
The core game is 400$, you technically dont need anything more. A full run through of a campaign does take around 60+ hours
@@TheLalalaboyz warhammer underworld, cursed city or any army less than 2k points is cheaper than Kingdom death, I also see 90% anime tiddie models on the site which is lame.
"Can't keep up" but still can't resist putting their names and minis in the thumbnails and titles, lol.
yeah not gonna lie, that click bait title and the whole stick was pretty meh. That shitting on GW minis kinda lost it's appeal, and I would also be pretty invested in game I spent probably 700-1000$. I get that he's passionate about it, but it's a super heavy bias. The miniature market is though and I wish them all the best, but not doing any kind of marketing besides word-of-mouth... that is damn risky. And setups that are more grim derp than Warhammer just don't do it for me.
Don't forget to pull a stupid face to attach to the thumbnail also, which adds flavour to the extra "click baitiness"
@@matpaintingminiatures Warhammer is the wargame, and has the funds and fanbase to create a lore. Best is subjective.
Apparently have to mention Warhammer in the title just for the algorithm? LOL
Sadly you kinda need to these days as the vast majority of hobby interested people is first and foremost interested in Warhammer or if you’re lucky dnd
That's modern CZcams
Any mini painter that does mostly GW stuff is bound by the popularity and algorithm to continue doing so on the threat of zero exposure and hurting your channel’s potential growth as the algorithm stops promoting you.
So I’ll take any other miniatures game representation if it’s in this form, as it’s better than nothing
It's a real shame because it kinda suggests the game doesn't stand on its own merits.
I thought it looked cool here, went to the website to check the figures and sadly it focuses a bit too much on the pinup stuff for my taste.
While I don't play the game at all, I can tell ya that the base game and the major expansion don't really focus much on the gratuitous pin ups (Still a ton of sexuality like the gambler's chest nudist giants)
The pinups are really just alt figures and a dosh making product for em by what I know of the series.
KDM is the game if I could only play one game, that would be it. So glad to get some painting content that is focused on Kingdom Death Monster
It’s not the only game I play, but it’s the one I’d take to a desert island.
I love the note about starting the dry brush from the source of light! Really useful tip!! ❤
It’s awesome you were able to get your hands on the killennium butcher before release. It’s been fun watching this model jump up $1000 over the month to now be sitting at $10,000,000 with a countdown clock to launch
As someone who got into warhammer just these last 2 years I don’t think I could ever drop it, I love the books, the painting, the gaming and table top gaming. I think everything involved with it makes it forever lasting for me.
Same here! - I was looking for something to replace Star Wars... need something to replace Marvel and DC still... lol
You don’t have to drop a game to play another game. I play several mini games.
@@photonfartsqueeze6694 Yea but reading "can't keep up" In my mind goes to you leaving the game for something better, I don't really see something beating it overall for me is all.
@@ZengiXoung Sure. I’m glad you are having a great time!
Hi ninjon, love the video and I really want to get some of these minis just to paint up! Question though about the FW white ink. What PSI in your compressor do you use and what needle size do you use? I’m having hell of a trouble with the ink not working the way I see in videos when going through my airbrush :(
Same.
I just ordered minis from 7 different companies/ games to check out their quality from a store sale. some old, some new. Very excited
Awesome and often overlooked element to add objective markers to a static board setup! Loved the video! Keep it up and cheers to approaching 2k subs !!
Curious what you are diluting the white ink with and what ratio?
The Catch is that's even more expensive than GW! 🥵
Black knight box too!!! Loving the kdm content. Your style along with direct imput from poots is a match made in heaven. I got the base game a few years ago and a handful of expansions, includung the giga lion vignette. That giga lion is my favourite model of all time and my fVourite paint job too.
The game is a big investment but contains so much content and longevity that it is most definitely value for money
OMG! love the subtle flex that you already have the black night expansion.
How much do you like OnePageRules?
Awesome all around! Nice work!
Really enjoy your stuff Jon and I learn a lot from it and it always helps provide perspective...but the title on this was pretty disingenuous and that it's another ad video is aggravating.
I know you have to keep the lights on bud but this isn't it...
That Kingdom Death setting sounds like ideal fodder for a Souls-like video game adaptation.
Already exists?
Also known as Dark Souls
Kingdom Death was influenced heavily by D&D, Berserk, and Monster Hunter. It's a great game and my play group plays it the most these days instead of 40k.
He didn’t do a good job of explaining kingdom death, it’s more of a deet system with cards as AI and Hunter events versus D&D. And the whole having babies thing is combining one person skills with another person skills to hopefully have a child with both skills and if you roll really low, they all die
So bloodbourne?
How much are you thinking your inks for OSL?
Kingdom Death: That one game sitting on my shelf waiting for the day I feel good enough for it's Miniatures. (I ordered the Base Game during the Pandemic and the two following years a fear extra Bits. And yes: The word of mouth in form from a few CZcams-Videos was the reason I got interested in the whole thing in the first place....)
Dude! You really need to get it to the table. If it chimes with you, it’ll suck you in like no other game can.
Beautiful paint work and agree Kingdom Death is a labour of love but it shows in the quality of the components and the game play which is not only fun but is bursting with atmosphere
What additional challenges would the use of dry brushing instead of air brushing present?
Great vid. I’d love to see more KDM!
I've said this before, Jon, but I'll say it again - I really appreciate that you share your insights into what keeps you motivated, and the things that save you time and effort. So often CZcamsrs seem totally unaware of this aspect of the hobby (probably because their time IS 'work time'), but you always seem to keep it in mind. That's why I keep coming back.
Keep up the great work!
So happy to see this awesome game finaly making some time under the spotlights !
😃
"You can see by the mound of Human torsos that he's perched upon, that he's a Bad guy"
My Good Guy Space Marine perched upon a mound of Heretics Torsos doesn't understand the correlation.
Funnily enough he kind of looks like Ushoran from behind :D
Nice end effect. KD:M really interests me, but idea of so many nicely detailed minis makes it overwhelming :D
Yeah I wanted to get some of their minis after painting the survivors you see here for a client...but like most independent companies you can't just buy a few of their minis you have to buy the entire game, and I couldn't justify doing that.
Black Friday sale is unreal and worth a look, usually around 50% off. If you don't shoot for the full game it would be a great way to get stand alone expansion minis at a more accessible price. Ebay may be viable too, but Black Friday would likely be a better deal
Yeah... The butcher model concept was teased years ago (pre-covid) and much of the KDM community saw the similarities between the two models.
How do you keep the FW white ink from getting all chunky? It's the worst white ink I've used. All the other colors have worked great, but the white was SO bad.
a vortex mixer most likely
Love your painting style on KDM minis. I hope this leads to many more colaberations with them!
Best intro ever!!! You should make your minis speak more often Ninjon. 😂
Loving the KDM content! As someone who's mostly drifted away from GW into crowdfunded board games, it's really something special when it comes to the hobby itch. Aeon Trespass Odyssey and Oathsworn: Into the Deepwood are worth a look if you're not familair. The mini's are all preassembled, but really good quality with that in mind. If you want a tease of an upcoming dark-fi kdm-esque title check out Three of Ghosts :)
What are those mini stands at the start?
Hey Jon, did you finish your Golden Demon project?
I love seeing KDM content in the larger mini painting channels. Thanks for a great video. I am going to sub to your Patreon
Gorgeous painting!!! ❤😊❤
I have been eyeing kingdom death for ages and this is the push I needed to start it. Thanks mate! It's good to shine a lantern on other games that deserve it
This is the launch of Jon's voiceover career.
Shout-out to that left thigh pauldron thingy behind the sword. The lighting effects are on point. Crazy how a minimalist approach like this can convey so much atmosphere and emotion.
The Butcher may be a bad guy but he isn't necessarily a bad guy.
He is just trying to live is best life like the rest of us.
I love ALL Ninjon videos!
You dont HAVE to make the stupid CZcams titles. Thats a choice.
But it gets clicks.
Right now with the algorithm being jank, it's necessary.
You don't HAVE to be upset, it's a choice!!
You don't HAVE to get clicks to make money. Oh wait, you have to.
I'm obsessed with this game. Been playing for several years and are the only minis I paint in my hobby. Nice paint job!!!!
That sounds exactly like my childhood! I'm a product of old DandD. I started into roleplaying games at 6 with a game called Rolemaster. Overcomplicated, to say the least, but it was what was being played around me. I am a roleplayer/Dungeon Master at heart. Kingdom Death miniatures look up my alley for sure. Just don't know if I can afford that price.... Beautifully painted miniature! The lighting is magnificent!
If you are in contact with the creator. Can you ask them to lower the shipping cost on minis? Its 50$ usd to ship to canada, for 1 mini.
Shipping into canada sucks right now.
They're getting a canadian warehouse set back up for major content (core, expansions, gambler chest, this killenium stuff)
Oh yes, they float. They all float down here.
“Hey guys. This is the end of Warhammer. Right? Clickbait video. Views guys. “
What display cases on the wall are those you have?
this.. please
Yay, more KDM content!
Those mini cases on the wall are sweet. Where do they come from?
Artis Opus
I can't find the Ninjon video that suggests the magnifier visor thing. Please help lol
KDM is sooo good! My all time favorite game! Love seeing it splashed into your vids on occasion.
The story of the lion fight did more to sell this game than all the rest of the video. That sounds epic.
My friend did a playtest of it years ago at GenCon, he used a whip to take the lions balls off. Sold him on the game right there too haha
That's an awesome fig, with a scary ass back story.
Very cool paint job given that back story.
I was afraid of my shower drain for years
My mom bought me the goosebumps book "it came from beneath the sink" as a child. my bed was directly in line with the bathroom across the hall, the cover of the book scared me so much that night i made her return it the next day
Really love the look of this mini and your paint job was awesome! Still haven't made a hard choice on WH, but love all the options there are now for games and just enjoying getting back into painting all the cool things! Thanks for all the vids :D
3:04 “I understand that this is faint and hard to see”
Me turning up the brightness on my phone 😏😎
Wow. This miniature is so creepy. The designer really did a great job telling a story.
I think your fluorescent yellow really did help at the end too . Do more videos about kingdom death the game. I want to learn more
I love the hanging display cabinets. Does anyone know where they can be purchased?
I have SO many kingdom death minis between the core box, gamblers chest, vignettes, expansions, and pinups that I feel bad that I'm only using them for one game. I really want to do a mordheim-like game with the minis when I'm not using them for the game proper.
Poot's stuff has been way off the wall since day one. Like you, not a manga fan, but a lot of hit minis are a lot of fun. I painted a few for a client many years ago when the first game cam out and wondered why they all had lamps. Now I know. Thank you 🙂
Where i can find that butcher miniature there is only one vignette box - gigalion.
Has not been released yet, 6 days time I think :)
Yeah people are expecting the butcher vignette either this month or next. Don't sleep on the white gigalion though, that is also a very fun paintjob imo
There's a countdown for it on the Kingdom Death store. Just over 6 days left.
It'll be available on February 29th
Thanks guys!
Love the shelf intro
I wasn't a part of the initial set of backers for the game since I got into board/miniature gaming pretty late, but it's been quite the experience learning about the setting, gameplay and enjoying the amazing sculpts of KDM. It's an amazing game and setting for dark fantasy/horror fans. And as mentioned in the comments, it's an absolute treat for fans of Berserk, Dark Souls, etc.
I love Necromunda but I tried 40k again in 9th edition and decided to sell it all off. I prefer beer and pretzel games, historics, and board games.
Then you should try One Page Rules Grimdark Future. It's almost beer & pretzel wargame where you could play big battle in 1,5 hour. Impossible with GW rules.
God I love the Kingdom Death models. The rulebook/setting is extremely cool too
The Algorithm: “I prefer thumbnails including an overlay of the presenter’s face showing strong emotion.”
Ninjon: “… K.”
OMG, BEST INTRO EVER!!!!! 🤣😂🤣
KD have some awesome minis, never delved into myself but might have to after watching this! Love the lore alongside the painting
I do love me some ninjon/kdm content, hell yeah
Love seeing Kingdom Death on here and hoping we can see more of it in the future too.
Kept waiting for some Black Knight reveals with that box there!
so cool you got this in advance... kudos
I think the thing the Ninjon does best, is grasp of colour. These colours are always so complementary and he seems to just pick them off the shelf just by eye. It’s very impressive. I don’t feel that he ever ever clashes with his colours.
Saying that though, the camera is still going out of focus on closeups.
I sold this game a few years ago as money was tight. You can bet your derriere that I will be getting it again as it is a truly glorious experience to take new people through. Give them no clues as to how brutal it is and watch as they roll on an injury table and find the character has lost an arm or has a fear of the dark and now has to be a people maker at the settlement now 😂 Great vid.
Very good and valid point re not have to keep to the same colours and keep up the fun element
More kingdom death content my man! This game has a great release model for painters. Low model count releases that you can really spend time on each model really reduces the “get it on the table” word from other army games
This would have been a good project to use something like Black 4.0
Amazing intro!
Next up, Atnas. Love to hear that background story. Ha. Butcher’s Hack City is scary!
Having watched this without sound since the painting is what calms me before bed, I have decided that this character only likes eating humans from the waist down and then decorates with the top half. Area ging them in peaceful positions, just to freak the next guy out.
I am painting my Kingdom Death in the same sort of style! I'm so excited to get that new Vignette at some point.
I bought everything for the KDM Kickstarter 1.5, and it has been an insane journey and worth every penny.
yeah so all i can find on their website is weird anime girl pinup stuff?
And monsters.
Also a weird anime girl with a skirt made of dicks
Yeah KDM has monthly store drops and pretty limited quantities so most of their stuff other than the pinups sells out really fast
A lot of their best not anime/pin-up stuff is in the main games, unfortunately. I would have bought two or three extra Phoenix by this point if I could buy them separately.
But, the model to price ratio isn't too bad for the whole game.
Most of their actual monsters are in the game and game expansions. Individual models are mostly all promos and range from slightly fan servicey to "do NOT let anyone see your screen while you browse".
Click "Monster" at the very top if you want to see the core game and what's in the box.
Game sounds great, will definitely be checking it out
I like the skit at the beginning. Very entertaining.
That opening is almost straight Monty Python! 😆
Kingdom Death has atmosphere in spades. God choice.
Pennywise in IT and Darkness in Legend were both Tim Curry (and also was Frankenfurter in the Rocky Horror Picture Show). Now thats some acting range.
I feel like this video is also a great example of what you can do with a limited color pallete. You said you wanted to stick to warm colors, and it turned out awesome
Such a Monty Python opening. Love it
KDM models are just pure *chef's kiss*.
I've really been feeling Malifaux lately. The vast amount of unique minis and choices for crews has been a nice change from GWs uniform miniatures.
Such a beautiful mini.
This mini would have been amazing to try with a bit of musou black or black2.0
The art of KD looks very Soulsbourne! It's epic!
Sick! I saw a lot of speculation about what the “killenium “ was going to be, but didn’t think it would be a butcher vignette.
What is the blue box at the end???
It's called the Killenium Butcher! xD
The white box was the killenium butcher vignette box, I thought.
The blue box is the new black knight expansion
This was a very nice model and paint job. Nice and easy to follow for a hack like me, would like to give this a try.
I'd rather not have the click-baity titles, but I understand the deferral to the algorithm gods. After all, GW has buried dozens of games (many of which I have enjoyed) through its 35+ y. From Ral Partha's "all things Dark and Dangerous" to the early Battletech models that resisted paint sticking to them to many of the new more specialized models (about to start Miniac's vampire and an Iron Maiden Eddie Model), this is really a great time to get started in the hobby.
Ugh fuck. I was going to skip the butcher vignette (because we're already getting another butcher eventually) but this is a perfect ad...