If Kent Mansely Was Charged For His Crimes
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2023
- I was watching the Iron Giant for nostalgia purposes and with my more grown up brain realized that Kent Mansely is quite the antagonist and his crimes are pretty henious, then I remembered that theres a cool dude called MOUSAIT who makes videos about movie villian crime charges, so I thought it would be fun to make one. KEYWORD: FUN! I'm not a law major. Just going off of basic research and common knowledge. Enjoy or don't.
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Yeah, I kind of figured Mansley would've probably gotten life in federal prison for almost nuking an entire town off the map.
That would required the government to acknowledge the fact that they launched a nuke without following the proper protocols
@@kraevorn7483he acted on his own and didn’t have the rank to do it and his boss had him arrested for it
@@munken7673 Still if that got out to the public the government/military would have gotten a ton of backlash for letting it happen in the first place
He would've became someone else's bitch in prison
Yep definitely life in prison 😂😂😂damn he got charged so much I'm still surprised they didn't show him after that
It should also be considered that, if Mansley has a military rank, even if he's retired military, he would be guilty of multiple counts of disrespecting a commissioned officer, lying to a commissioned officer, insubordination, disertion, and would be subject to court-martial, which means he could be tried and convicted of *all* of his crimes *twice.*
Would falsely assuming a CO’s rank to launch a nuke on American soil also be treason?
@@VlRGlL Hmm... that one's a bit tough. I think the soldier who launched the nuke would probably have plausible deniability. They were already poised to launch the nuke at a three star general's orders. They got two conflicting orders one after the other. At worst they may get discharged but I think they would be fine otherwise.
And if you're going to be court-martialed. You're pretty much guaranteed to be found guilty no matter what given how that system works.
OH, and this assuming that he won't be straight up tried for treason, and probably be set for the death penalty.
@@silverswordsmith5424 I'm pretty sure they'd be reprimanded at worst if the General were to vouch and testify about the situation. You are correct though, launching a nuke on conflicting orders, is pretty steep of a charge. I don't think they'll spend time in the slammer given the situation. But I don't think they'll be handling anything like that ever again.
Mansley's lawyer: "right so the good news is you don't owe the court any money and your time served has been reduced to nothing. The bad news is you're going to be executed by firing squad."
XD
"And this time the firing squad has a last request."
"What's that?"
"Anti Material Rifles."
Mansley would not have even gotten to the legal issues I guarantee that he would have been buried six feet under in some obscure location by his intelligence agency superiors for being an absolute liability
Man(sley) single handedly has a rap sheet to rival Quantico and Langley combined...
Considering what was going on at the time, his superiors would have to have a very all over the place definition of being an absolute liability for themselves.
@@wildfire9280 having an entire division of military personnel and a town full of civilians witness a nuclear weapon being launched
@@wildfire9280 MKUltra was genuinely more under wraps than a nuclear explosion within the United States aimed at a civilian population. Every big guy possible would have detected that and would start asking questions
@@fritzman6483 Mansley would only make it to court to be nailed to the wall with a telephone pole; you have to have someone to blame, and it's sure as fuck not going to be anyone else.
Here's a big one too, and I don't know if it would even count as a charge. As you said, this is set during the Cold War, and we know it doesn't as the ending of the film is set a few months after the Giant's sacrifice. But here's the thing....
Mansley launched a goddamn nuke, during the goddamn cold war, that detonated somewhere in the stratosphere, now, there were of course nuclear tests during that time period, and the U.S Government most likely could pass it off as one, but Mansley VERY well could have made the Cold War go hot with that one action had the Soviet Union took that as hostile action.
Is "Almost causing nuclear war" a charge?
That jut can be counted as high treason
Well, if you launch a missile without good reason, it's safe to say... *_you fucked up._*
It might also fall under "attempted chemical warfare/chemical poisoning" considering the nuke exploded over the town, the fallout and initial radiation burst would defiantly impact people, animals and nature. Also the EMP would mess up electric grids and the flash could have damaged peoples' eyes. All a war crime breaking the Geneva Convention so he'd not only answer to the American Federal Government, but also to the United Nations Council.
I remember the story of when the Soviet early warning system detected a Nuclear launch in 1983 from the US and it was up to one man whether to respond or not. Thanks to his calm under pressure, he realize it must of been a false alarm because only one launch was detected. If the US wanted to do a first strike, they would send everything they have he reasoned. Turns out he was right, it was a computer malfunction and a false reading. The incident wouldn't be public knowledge until 1998.
I imagine something similar happened in Iron Giant on the Soviet side. Only difference being the Nuke was real in the movie's case. One hell of a close call nevertheless.
@@connormacleod4922 Plus the nuke detonated well outside of Soviet territory over US airspace. Once they saw the detonation and where it happened, they likely would have written it off as another test, though might have been a bit confused by how close it was to populated areas.
Another point however is this was in the 1950's; I don't know if either the US or the USSR had missile warning systems sophisticated enough to detect a launch while it was still in the initial launch stage.
“Mansly not only do I sentence you death, but the state will hold your soul in a high security soul estate for 175,075.5 years.”
Truly, the only way to effectively carry out that sentence.
"Hey, Satan. Yeah, it's the Oval Office. I got one coming down for you, give him the Special Treatment."
Imagine if they would find some way to resurrect you every time you died or had some way to control where you reincarnate each time, THEN they let you die
@@MrEvan312
Please don’t give Ra’s Al Ghul any ideas.
The Observers and the Q would agree.*
*Guess the references
“In addition, your soul will be tortured during that time, and once it is released, you will be reimprisoned once you reincarnate and forced to repeat your sentence.”
I love how Mansley, this random FBI guy, has coursed more damage and risk to human life than a majority of Disney villains
Welcome to the cold war
Least harmful CIA/FBI goon
When he committed treason, he also technically committed Desertion of Duty. Not sure how the military handles that.
Badly, I assume.
I’m gonna assume he got court-martialed, and tried in military court. There are 14 offensives, most of which must occur during times of war (The Cold War in this case), a military officer could commit that could potentially lead to the death penalty. I think Mansly committed at least four. That man’s probably dead.
Rule 1004. Capital cases
(11) That, only in the case of a violation of Arti-
cle 104 or 106a:
(A) The accused has been convicted of another
offense involving espionage or treason for which
either a sentence of death or imprisonment for life
was authorized by statute; or
(B) That in committing the offense, the ac-
cused knowingly created a grave risk of death to a
person other than the individual who was the victim.
For purposes of this rule, “national security”
means the national defense and foreign relations of
the United States and specifically includes: a mili-
tary or defense advantage over any foreign nation or
group of nations; a favorable foreign relations posi-
tion; or a defense posture capable of successfully
resisting hostile or destructive action from within or
without.
Typically, death
At 2800 feet per second.
Man was definitely executed like a week after
They used all 4 Iowas so they dont miss
God willing
Nah, even a case as high profile as this, capital punishment doesn't kick in _that_ fast. Mansley was rotting in a cell for at least eight years before they walked him to the chair.
Bold of you to assume he even saw the next sunrise.
He did that in front of an entire town and an entire platoon led by a general that was there. There's no way he's living another day after that stunt. Straight up guilty by the strike of a gavel sentencing him to immediate execution
I am 100% certain that launching a nuke at your own country, and launching a nuke without proper authorization, are ALSO illegal. No clue what the charge IS but I think we can just add a life sentence and death penalty as a good ballpark estimate, yes?
As far as I can find, the highest/closest thing to a charge for that would still fall under Treason. High Treason specifically. Witch is 9/10 times an instant death penalty.
Yeah that seems reasonable to me, thanks for figuring that out! Have a great day!
@@TheReaperHunter From a brief delve into Wikipedia it looks like "high" treason isn't really a thing in US federal or state legal code, it's just treason, there's no degrees to it. Also treason is an exceptionally rare crime to be charged with, less than 30 people have ever been convicted of it and only about a third of those were executed for it in the United States. Mansley's case, though, would be by far the most severe act of treason ever committed against the United States and would almost definitely land him a seat on the electric chair.
Pretty sure that would constitute as treason
No wonder Giant was smiling at the end.
I remember reading on a wiki that someone on the production team said that there was a cut scene of Kent meeting his end at a firing squad
So canonically Kent is dead
If that's real, it's understandable why it was cut. Despite what's in this movie, that would be just too much, especially for a movie that everyone knew lots of kids would see.
@@flyiscoolboi4675 True I know Brad Burn loves to push his movies to be much darker but yeah that would of been to much
@@ImmaLittlePipI can imagine a Pixar style after credits sequence of Kent trying to barter with the executioners but then they execute him while the general is watching and eating popcorn. Hogarth is there too and he laughs and slaps his knee. That would be sooo dark lol
Considering this took place during the Cold War, and its treason, I'm not surprised by that deleted scene.
_Jesus._
All of his crimes were done at the taxpayer’s expense also. A major abuse of power
But that's probably going to be piled up with that fine, years in prison, and with the death penalty, he may not make it until the years served is met.
Was qualified immunity a thing back in October 1957?
Sounds like a certain president that was born in Africa and his dementia lackey.
Man, they'd probably bring his ass back to life after the first death penalty just to give him a second one.
Honestly, Harassment of a Minor could probably be overlooked considering how his job as a government investigator pretty much demands he be like that. Intimidation could also be overlooked for similar reasons.
Also I’m pretty sure you missed a few charges. For example, subverting the General’s authority by ordering a missile launch. Also possibly falsifying a situation report when telling him the Giant killed a kid.
And not a single government agent to this day has ever been charged for the mass murder that happened at Waco Texas.
This, that last scene he basically did a speed run of so many court martial offenses.
@@benjaminbierley2074 he really did do a "see how fast you can get in front of a firing squad"
falsifying intelligence + treason + desertion in the space of 5 minutes is pretty impressive
It's the manner in which he kept after Hogarth that makes it harassment of a minor.
yeah, theres a right and wrong way to go after someone and that nonstop weasely behavior absolutely fits the bill for straight up harassment @@danielgioiosa9845
I like how the Captain of the Nautilus just went " fuck it we ball" after hearing some incoherent screaming telling him to fire a nuke. Not sure about military protocol but pretty sure all he did was acknowledge the general was contacting him while in standby. To actually issue a fire order wouldn't he have to say some kind of confirmation code? Especially after confirming the target was right on top of an active zone.That Captain is definitely getting court martialed.
While you're right, to play devils advocate here, this IS mid cold war. Pretty much everyone with a nuclear key was just ITCHING to use it.
Plus Mansly sounded panicked which to a certain extent could have passed the notion that the general had just died and they had no other option
Just rewatched that scene to be sure. At that point all conventional weapons didn't even scratch the giant and its weapon created a brief green sun on the horizon. The armed forces were a bit stressed.
As for the Nautilus, it had the nuke codes confirmed, warhead armed and safety off. They were literally waiting finger-above-button for "LAUNCH" or "ABORT". Considering that the general called them personall and next thing they hear is a panicked "LAUNCH THE MISSILE, NOW", it's quite... "regular" response.
@@adriannash2705I always assumed that exactly.
I mean shit hit the fan big time and guns literally blazing- that could have been a split second death for all he knew.
as the replies point out, its not DEFINITE, but he would probably be tried in the same case AS Mansley. I think there's a lot of circumstantial evidence for him to claim he had acted as anyone could have been expected to in that situation, least of which being the fact that 1970's radio technology can make it quite difficult to tell between voices.
Since The Giant is sentient can we add an attempted murder charge to Kent's sentence?
He order a missile launch with hostile intent even when everyone else realized The Giant is no longer a threat
Sadly, only humans are given protection under the law which means no matter how sentient a creature is they have no protection.
@@Flakjacket96 something tells me I doubt he’d be punished for the launching a nuke because it did not involve the president in fact that a lot of protocols were probably breached
I dunno, given all his other crimes, they might make up precedent that the Giant counts as human, simultaneously fucking Mansley over more but also semi-absolving the Giant of its actions (given all recordings of the incident it's reasonable to state it was acting in self-defense or the defense of family, and while it's not American, it'd probably get acquitted anyway)
Funny thing is for all they knew the giant was atomized so it wouldn't count as "attempted" murder
Pretty sure the legal system doesn't consider sentient machines to count as people yet.
There is no doubt he actually did get all of this after the movie ended. he launched a nuclear missile without permission and tried to leave everyone to save himself. life in federal prison is the best he could hope for in America. in other countries, he would be executed for such a massive crime of nearly bombing an entire town, killing thousands. no one is going to let him just walk away after that.
No. He'd have been exicuted in the field without trial. He did it in front of a general in the 1950s my man. He doesn't get a trial.
Yeah
The general would be like: YOU SET OFF A NUCLEAR MISSILE!
Not that a trial would have done ANY good. XD@@MeepChangeling
He gets a trial, martial court in the forest @@MeepChangeling
He launched a nuke on American soil during the fucking Cold War.
The General probably took him out back and shot him.
I never really hear about how effective of an antagonist he is! He's a perfect opposite to the Iron Giant in the way that the Giant wants to be Superman while Kent thinks he already is.
Kinda ironic, isn't it?
And his name is Kent. lol.
The part where he gets pissed off and keeps smashing the telephone down. . . .
That's how you know this is a Brad Bird movie.
I'll take your word for it.
I'm like... 90% sure usage of nuclear weaponry counts as a warcrime...
Or I guess a crime against humanity since there's no conflict.
Death penalty, for sure.
You have to be a solgier, in a war, in an actively occupied or conflicted zone to be charged with a war crime. Hence the name WAR crime. What you saw there is treason and attempted genocide. For which Kent would have just been shot in the field by that general or one of his men on his orders like INSTANTLY.
@@SuperMonaLisaBrosOR LIFE...AS A GUINEA PIG FOR MILITARY AND MEDICAL EXPERIMENTATION
Use of a nuclear weapon on a target within a non evacuated civilian population would be considered a war crime because about the only way a nuke could be used is via military actions.
That said, the original idea of MAD was that both sides of an intercontinental nuclear exchange would probably seek to destroy strategic targets (aka large population centers) in order to destroy any infrastructure needed to support military operations. (Manufacturing, supply lines, food and medical production, personnel, ect)
All that aside, he's not likely to have to worry about war crime charges because his willingness to abandon his country as an intelligence officer during the Cold War probably just got him a life sentence or a death sentence for treason.
he could've almost started ww3 and sent the entire world up in nuclear flames if the USSR saw the nuclear launch as a hostile action
Remember that the Iron Giant takes place in 1957, just before Civil Liberties started becoming the norm (i.e. Gideon v Wainwright or Miranda vs Arizona), as well as the justice system not really believing children.
I mean fair, but counterpoint he launched a nuke against the order's of a superior officer, the child endangerment stuff is the least of his worries seeing he committed Treason and Desertion
@@potatoreborn7848 He would be charged for all of it but yeah, only falsely ordering a tactical nuclear strike against a civilian population would matter. The fine and the jail time are irrelevant; Mansley's getting a potassium chloride cocktail.
@@mung01re nah its the 1950s hes getting the chair much worse tbh
I love how mansley saying “screw our country” is what gets him slapped with a treason charge and not the fact that he launched a nuclear warhead at a populated US civilian target
To be fair, this was set during the cold war. Saying stuff like that in that time period could get you in trouble.
I love how based on order, Canadians is MORE outlandish than Martians.
It's like another planet up there.
@@musicaleuphoria8699 As a Canadian, can confirm
I can't believe Jerma would do all of these
Really good video! Also, when Mansely committed grand theft auto, it was a military vehicle he attempted to steal, so that would include an additional ten years and automatic dishonorable discharge.
He also assaulted a soldier when he committed grand theft auto. I’m certain that assault of a soldier would make the sentence worse.
As an intelligence official, you know the CIA took this guy to an open field after the fact and executed him without trial. All for how bad he made them look.That or they black bagged him and locked him somewhere nobody would ever find him. I think the former is the most likely.
Seeing as it was a small town, the govt paid Garth and other witnesses a visit to ensure nobody would ever talk about the incident, giant, and completely forget about Mansley. The General would probably be the only one allowed to even know what happened. The soldiers were probably given a similar cover-up as the town residents.
This would be another instance in history for the U.S. Government to cover up and they'd be thankful it happened in a small town and not a giant population center. Kruschev would probably have gotten a phonecall about it to ensure them it wasn't a hostile launch.
Speaking of that nuke though? If it detonated in the upper atmosphere? The EMP would've knocked out the grid in that town and probably the next one over.
they would have sent kent to a fucking secret hell dimension lmao you just dont do this kinda shit without repercussions, he launched a nuke in front of a town and then attempted to flee, being shot would be the least of his worries... not only that, he destroyed (at least what the government would think at the time) a giant war robot filled with advanced alien technology the government could have used in the cold war... imagine the technological capabilities of the giant the government would want
The worst part is that he worked for the government and was inappropriately abusing his authority. It became so recklessly used that he nearly nuked a whole town and tried to escape. I’m surprised “Fleeing the Scene of a Crime” isn’t here too, but treason fits in this case.
kent mansley works for the government? when did he mention that?
@@Xenomorpheus429 It’s implied that he either works for the FBI or god forbid the CIA. He is the reason the military was called there in the first place.
@@movespammerguyteam7colors it's a joke because he mentions that every other sentence
@@movespammerguyteam7colors
“Hey there, scout. Kent Mansley. I work for the governme-“
*door slam*
This is probably the creepiest video yet, considering the low-key abusive relationship with a minor.
Low-key? He kidnapped him, interrogated him, threatened him and his mother, tried to have him killed by the Army and tried to nuke his town.
Even Voldemort would be shocked
@@jarrettadams4102 What? You think I disagree with you? You do realize I called this the creepiest video yet, right?
@@jarrettadams4102'low-key' is an often abused word on CZcams, even for things that aren't low-key.
Kent was an absolute slimeball
The heck do you consider high-key?!?
This is genuinely amazing. Improves the movie tenfold.
haha yeah thanks
Or just shows how TRULY DESPICABLE Mansely was!!!
@@ZeldaSam1 that's for sure
Not to mention that he tried to leave an active Warzone, while on duty, that does count as desertion. That will land you dishonorable discharge, and a minimum of five years in prison. But if it is in an active war like in the Cold War that would result in the death sentence
The Cold War wasn't an active war. That's why it was a cold war.
When I saw this as a kid I automatically got stranger danger vibes by how Mansley treated Hogarth.
As someone else pointed out, he ordered the launch of a nuke that was targeting the Giant - who, at the time, was standing smack-dab in the middle of a populated town. That order was also not within Mansley's authority to make; that was specifically an order to come from General Rogard, and no one else. To make matters even worse, this movie it set during the period of the Cold War AND it made a point of telling us a Russian satellite was in active orbit. If that satellite had seen the nuke, things could have gotten all kinds of ugly.
I don't really know where that falls all since it's a pretty unique situation... At best it could fall under impersonation of a superior officer (also tacked on with mass endangerment and insubordination) which constitutes several years' jail time and fines, and at worst it could fall under treason. Either way, he faces hefty charges and an inevitable court-martial, and would most likely end up spending the rest of his days behind bars (and that's assuming a treason charge doesn't stick and put him up for execution; treason is an EXTREMELY rare charge in the US, but Mansley's example would be by far the worst ever known).
The satellite was Sputnik, it only had a radio to confirm it got into space sucessfully.
I feel like he would have already had treason and the death penalty when he called in a nuclear strike on an American town
Could he also be held accountable for any military personnel killed during the Giant's rage from his false report of the giant being hostile?
Well, I don't think any soldiers were actually killed. They all seemed to escape.
I CERTAINLY HOPE SO!!!!!
@@flyiscoolboi4675 Something tells me they would've been killed had it not been a family movie
@nathanward.413 Oh yeah most definitely.
He was only informed of the giant not being hostile when they got into the town I believe, which is also a huge wrench in the gear for all the charges he would receive - the man didn't know anything and was intentionally not informed by the people that knew he was friendly. All he knew was that he was a the frontline of an alien/"soviet" invasion.
I know militaries prefer giving higher ups the benefit of the doubt, but from an outsider perspective he could also claim the general had gone insane, stopping all resistance _after_ the green alien nuke thing was fired. Something along the lines of endangering the greater public, maybe claiming that he did it because _he_ was scared of having a nuke land on him.
At least that's how I would spin it.
This movie was probably the most realistic depiction of a Post-WW2 US federal agent ever. Nothing's changed ;)
3:03 I was also saying to myself "he straight up drugged a child!? " back when I saw this movie for the first time.
ME TOO
Fellow inmates: Go on. *Pick up that soap.*
What does that mean?
@@ethancox9737 (It's a prison rape joke. Victim drops soap while in the communal shower, bends down to pick it up, and that's when the horny inmate strikes)
Pick. It. Up.
@@ethancox9737It means Manless (I mean mansley) is about to become someone's bitch
Inmates? Bro's committed so many severe felonies he definitely has his own exclusive isolated cell at this point.
one thing that always made me laugh was how TERRIBLY Mansley hammered those nails into the window sill
Mansley was trying to make a name for himself at the expense of others. People like Mansley are always looking for trouble and bite off more than they can chew.
In this case he ended up committing treason. Among other crimes on top of that.
This was actually quite enlightening and kind of funny. Good work!
thanks man
To be fair, up until the confrontation between the military and the giant; he was a single agent dealing with an alien force that has shown destructive tendencies against natural formations and civilian infrastructure, a lot of if not all of those charges would be dropped the moment Mansley was able to prove the giant exists. If he stopped there, stepped back, and let the military handle it from their then even when they realize the giant is trying to be friendly Mansley would still probably get off scot free and probably even get recognition for it.
He really should've stopped when he was ahead because he genuinely won the moment he proved himself right, all he had to do was cash his chips and bounce but he just kept pushing his luck.
Spoken like a true lawyer. You did him dirty, just like Saul Goodman intended
if I know mansley, he loves two things: his country, and child safety. The first almost as much as the second
"...he said, lying as easily as he breathed."
"Screw this country I want to live!"
He doesn't love his country and he treated Hogarth like trash and almost nuked everyone including children so he doesn't care about children either.
Also if kid wants to have a mischievous but peaceful giant alien robot then let him.
There's only a single lie in what you said.
With all these charges if they were brought into account, Mansley can kiss not only his career, but his own freedom goodbye for the rest of his life.
Well, with the treason charge, he would be kissing his life goodbye as well...
@@jccw227 Yeah. Mansley almost started World War 3 by launching a nuke based on nothing but fear and glory-hounding. He's dead.
@@jccw227Probably his afterlife as well if the big man upstairs has anything to say about it…
You forgot that in lying to the general about a matter that serious, he has also incited panic as well as filed a false report
Think of Mansley as a Highschool Bully and he poked the bear of the terminator, Rambo, The Predator, Judge Dredd and Conan. When the scary people don't bother you, leave them alone.
Sometimes the bear has to use its anger to LASH OUT at the bully to get him to leave it alone. I know from experience.
@@ronnycollins9125 There's a difference between dears and bears.
@@gholt39934
Sorry, typo.
Some of these crimes might not have existed in the 1950s, or at least the prices wouldn't be as large as they are considering inflation.
Which ones?
@@Sewblon well i imagine kids didn't have much rights, so harassing a minor might not exist at that time
@@xJohnnyBloodx It did.
@@xJohnnyBloodx Even back in the fifties Mansley could be charged with violating Hogarth's 8th Amendment rights if his mom chose to press charges. Having Dean as a witness, along with testimony of his actions with the nuke, those charges would stick.
The entire point of adjusting a currency's value for inflation is to allow us to determine how much something costs at different points in time. This may cause your brain to dribble out of your ears, but a 500 dollar fine in 1950 is the same amount of purchasing power as a 6,370.35 dollar fine today. Being incapable of understanding this is why Boomers are idiots. Their 3.15 an hour minimum wage is worth 17.98 today. But they see federal minimum wage at 7.25 and go "DURR! MORE THAN TWO TIMES WHAT I MADE! MILINIALS ARE LAZY!" when actually, we make less than HALF of what they made...
I believe a charge for overruling General Rogards direct order to only await and accept his orders about authorizing nuclear launch is something that also can be added to Mansley`s count of laws broken, whichever way that is described, unless its already covered.
I feel like up until he kidnapped Hogarth, all of his actions could have been excused in the course of his duties as a Federal agent.
i can't believe conan o'brien would do all of this
4:11 does this count as impersonating a general of the United States army? which I'm sure is also illegal 🤣🤣🤣
Let's not forget he's breaking interrogation law every time he speaks to Hogarth without his mom either present or giving permission, though he doesn't have to warn him of his rights since this was before the Miranda case and the adoption of the Miranda Laws. Though he IS breaking the eighth amendment by forcibly drugging him in the barn and shoving him around at the diner
This is a lofty and complicated request, but one you may find interesting since I think it'd meld well in this format:
"Every Christian sin Emperor Belos (The Owl House) committed"
I mean, entertaining video but I’ve always been curious on what Mansley would actually be charged with, “launch the missile now.” His argument would be fear and making a mistake but just like the giant his actions could be pegged as a Russian spy or terrorist. Honestly, I think the darkest aspect of this movie is thinking what did happen to Mansley cause you know it would have been far worse than life in prison or even sentenced to death.
Mansley doesn't have the authority to order a nuclear strike so he would have been in deep trouble.
A lot of stuff at the end of the film would probably be lumped under "Insubordination" and "Treason," and other people pointed out that since this is early cold war it's not unlikely the agencies he works for would be so displeased with his level of performance that they'd liquidate him as an asset.
Every man on that submarine is getting court martialed
It’s kind of wild that at a certain points he’s effectively not being punished for his crimes because he’s already got thousands of years.
Kent Mansley: LAUNCH THE MISSLE NOW!
Palpatine: It is treson then.
5:15 most powerful version of that sound I've heard yet. It's over, this is a good video.
4:29 you mean attempted genocide and a death penalty?
Don't forget the fact that nukes have massive fallout, killing and poisoning god knows how many people. 7000 attempted second degree murders are NOT taking in the property damage and long term after effects so Mansley got off easy
Attempted Mass murder. Not genocide
1:09 CANADIANS😂
They could also possibly charge him with destruction of government property for crashing the jeep he stole. If the damage exceeds $100 (which I'm sure it would, even in 1950's dollars), the defendant is looking at a fine of $250K and/or 10 years in prison.
I thought it would be give to take into account that people used to be able to do more to a minor legally in the 50s but since you pointed out treason yeah good to know Mansley is in the greatest trouble of any villain.
Maybe the intimidation and yelling, but he LITERALLY CHLOROFORMED HIM. That would probably be a charge.
Any villain ever? Unlikely
@@flyiscoolboi4675if you manage to prove it somehow
@@survivorofthecurse717agreed. I just meant good to know he was most likely sentenced to death after they got him in custody.
1:31 Wouldn’t he also get a false imprisonment charge for holding him captive?
Man, I really need to go and watch Iron Giant again. It's been so many years, I've completely forgotten it.
4:59 “It’s treason then…”
Best case scenario for Mansley, he spends the rest of his life in a federal prison. At worst, he gets sent to the chair.
Thank you so much for making this. I've been wanting to see what would happen to this monster ever since I saw the movie.
The Iron Giant: *Eats Mansely's car*
Mansely: *"... And I took that personally-"*
Pretty sure alot of these wouldn't count given that he's a government agent and alot of this is allowed as part of his job.
Well, the treason charge *would* count, no?
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The treason charge would more then likely nullify his status as a government agent
Leaving him vulnerable to the minor changes
@PunnySnuck "Minor charges"
*Indirectly nukes town*
@@PunnySnuck Is that a thing? Prosecuting someone for things they did in a time when they were allowed to?
@@reptiliannoizezz.413 I mean
He's going to get a life sentence at the least and at the most a death penalty for hijacking military orders which could have led to thousands of lives being lost
2:26 That part has always been curious to me. Would the new rules apply to only Annie and Hogarth or to *all* single-parent families? If the latter, it seems to me that no court would allow such an adjustment for fear of flooding an already over-crowded system with children.
I love how they managed to understand the feelings federal agents have for military generals and vis versa.
First video I've seen from you and it's gold, pure gold.
The first several charges would be dismissed due to his political connections.
Not a single FBI agent was ever punished for the mass murder at Waco Texas. And that's just one example.
For more examples of how the US government handles criminality within its ranks, check out the sentences for the Utah POW Massacre, Yumiko-chan Incident, My Lai Massacre, and Abu Ghraib Prison.
Hint: expect the sentences to be light and then commuted as soon as the public isn't looking.
wife and kids are free game
@@Ashes-and-Shardsyeah, but none of those are ordering the launch of a nuke on an American town without the authority to do so, especially during the Cold War. Yeah, maybe the government won't be overly public about those events, but I doubt he'd escape justice for that.
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I like how at first the prison years build up to a number small enough to realistically outlive and then they just skyrocket after the missile
The happy ending that movie deserved, really
0:54 Oh, darn. From post 2022, he's flipping right.
Kent Mansley is the best villain of all time and nobody can convince me otherwise.
It would be life imprisonment for accidentally jeopardizing a town with the Missile and for paranoia.
Mansely launched a nuclear strike (Defying the General's orders, I might add) on populated U.S soil during the cold war. (The Iron Giant takes place in 1957)
Mansley was DEFINITELY executed.
Love this and plz, do more of this :)
I miss when villains did actual villain shit and weren't trying to win our sympathy
This is a great series. I look forward to more like this. Keep up the good work. You've earned a sub.
I'd reckon some Cold War generals would've been mighty pissed that Mansely's efforts led to the fact the Iron Giant will never become a weapon against Communism. Those generals would've wanted that robot to decimate the Viet Cong or the North Koreans. I can imagine that Kent Mansely would wind up somewhere between the firing squad and the electric chair.
With him, he pretty much has a testamony about a paranormal entity with unknown orgins. It's not like he pulled this up for the assumption that someone is a spy or not. In his eyes, the Iron Giant could literally be full of atomic weapons and destroy entire states by itself.
Crazy how this man has the most on this channel.
I like how Mansley is SO horrible for his nuke launch that you added "Attempted Second Degree Murger" instead of "Murder" because it is so intense, it mangles up that one letter in that word. Hot damn, Mansley, you nearly murgered alot of people, you nearly murgered alot of people.
His list of crimes would be so long that they wouldn’t even bother reading all them before deciding it was long enough to justify a death sentence.
Also, attempted desertion, which is another fine and at least 5 more years in prison.
You are forgetting the fact Mansly is not only getting charged with full treason, he can get charged with desertion and explding a nuke on american soil.
That can also lead to a bunch of other charges related to terrorism, mass genocide, and hell of a lot fo stuff for braking the chain of command.
4:29 Suddenly 75 years doesn't sound so bad
I’ve been waiting for this for a long time.
Question: could he also have been charged for the deaths of the army men who died as a result of his actions which made the giant snap?
The CIA definitely did unspeakable things to this man after the movie
Crazy how this video has so many views. Glad there's a visible fanbase for the Iron Giant. It deserves all the love
Kent: FIRE THE MISSLE!!
officer in the sub: uhhhh launch codes sir?
Kent: oh shit
Also would add mutiny (he disobeyed a direct order to stand down fron the general and caused a nuclear launch. Try explaining that to the USSR) and desertion (when he tries to flee the doomed town)
I think the fines should be adjusted for the time. Since this movie takes place in 1957, the $400 fine for damaging the phone would be reduced to $36.61, most likely rounded to $40.00
Why? 37 USD in 1957 is worth 400 dollars now, and we live in now, not 1957. Don't you think it's more important to communicate how much purchasing power the fine is taking away from him in a way we understand?
Aaaaah, man. I don't care how technically accurate this was. I just liked your video. Keep 'em coming.
You should make more videos like these they're golden!😂