"Average costs factors in crazy outliers" 30B in 5/10/15 on CRA, shit went from 17-> 19. Expect the unexpected, Remove Emotion, WAP Everyday until you have enough to get more than the range of cost
Things I know about starforcing, make as much meso as possible before a 5/10/15. I always avoid 30% as you can save money to failstack. Now you can 22* both off event and on event. You can boom all your spares on shining. You don’t know if you’re gonna hit until u keep gambling. In Starforcing, the house always wins.
Thank you, this clarifies alot for me. Between seeing something hit 20 star I had over 20 items boom on me. I'm surprised people saying they boomed something 40 times isn't the norm.
One thing I think a sf guide need, since it helps newbies most, is that how long time it is expected to achieve, as well as the level/cp. Also, it'd be better to compare the priority of sf as well as pot on different items.
I am a new player I started a month ago. Just spent 4 bil starforcing to 17 and going legendary on all my potentials. In the stat sheet my combat power more than doubled from 1.5m to 4.1m. Still a lot of work to do!
I really like your videos man I learned a lot and I really appreciate your help to the community, specially with new players. Plus, you’re funny as hell.
Cool vid. I'm at ~120m cp pre-lib rn, almost full 21* with some 22* but not wearing any pitched yet. I have like 8 different pitched equips in my inventory (2 zerks, 2 sos, 2 eyepatches, 1 endless terror, 1 dreamy belt) - seems likely to me that if I star all of these, at least one of them should probably hit 22* right? At this point, would you invest meso in getting gollux set / kanna's treasure / twilight mark all from 21 to 22 or would you rather use the meso for pitched attempts? Leaning on the former
Hey bro can you please make like a (I guess you can call it a motivational video lol) on how not to burn out on learning new bosses. For example Iv been practicing Will for like a month now but i still can't clear it because i just suck at the game. Any advice/suggestions?
1) consider recording a Will attempt so you can watch it later and see what's going wrong for you 2) Don't be scared to ask your class discord or guild for advice! I was always webbing out in p3 because I didn't know you had to run into 2 webs after using moonlight to clear webs until I straight-up asked how to clear webs XD 3) try doing solo practice on a lower difficulty(if possible) so you're not worrying about damage and can focus on learning the boss's attacks and tests. 4) Don't worry about struggling with a boss, especially Will. I think he's the first mechanically intense boss you face in MapleStory, and is a wall for many newer players, my party included! Master the boss at your own pace with the knowledge that learning the boss will both make future attempts easier and prepare you for future bosses
I always watch your videos, but sometimes i get a little confused since i'm playing in reg and things sometimes are different there. In case you can comment these difference while making some points would be really helpful 🙏. Also I have a question that maybe you can answer in another video, happens that with this starforcing and booming, i know that your potentials change when you transpose items, but i'm not sure how this happens if i have an item and boom and i already have some lines in legendary. If I already have an item in 17* with leg potentials then is no good to traspose items from lower lvl and higher stars on it since it will loose potentials or something like that?. Cheers, keep the good work!
Hey mate. Would u recommend sf'ing a sup pend then transfer to SoS for reg server as well? And if I do, what scrolls should I use on the sup pend before transfering. Should I prime the sup pend first if I don't wanna go through the perfect +6 icog cancer. Or just use regular adv gollux scrolls? BTW ty for your content. It's nice to see someone so committed to help the maplestory community with the so detailed guides your making. I know that takes a lot of time to make the content your coming up with. Keep up with the good work mate!
Transfer Hammer Superior Gollux Pendants into SoS’s is still the way to go in reg server. A clean Superior Gollux pendant costs less than 1B while an SoS is still in the 15B-20B range. The stats on the Gollux Pendant and SoS don’t matter as you would only care about the stars. So you don’t need to worry about scrolling until the SoS is fully 22*’ed. After transferring and successfully 22’ing an SoS you’d use an ark innocence scroll to reset the scroll slots but keep the stars. From there you can scroll it however you want. For mine I went 1st slot iCoG (+6att) and the rest of the slots were premium accessory scrolls (+4 to +5 att) as that was the best cost-efficient way to scroll it. Also, don’t ever cube an SoS before it’s 22* as transfer hammer removes its potential. Good luck!
@@omgfaso yes. If you specifically want to prime scroll it you have to scroll the SoS itself with prime scrolls BEFORE you transfer hammer. The reason being that prime scrolls can destroy your item so you have to use shielding wards along with them. And these cannot be used on items that have more than 12 stars. If you’re planning to icog/x scroll/v scroll you can do it either before or after
i like your guide and video a lot but too bad I didn't play on this server (I play on MapleSEA) which didn't have some of the gears you mention but it's still good video, thanks
Isn't sweetwater pendant a late game option? Compared to daybreak or dominator, it's not hard to get spare parts, has an extra star att from sweetwater transpose, plus it's lvl 160 so each line of potential has 1% more stat. I think those should be enough to compensate the terrible flame lines.
i mean i dont wanna say id NEVER do a video on that, but at the moment id rather make videos that more people could find useful. 23 starring, double priming, perfect flaming, almost no one actually experiences that, and honestly i feel that type of spending is going to get fazed out when a new meso sink comes out at some point. It's not really a normal thing to do
Thank you for the video. I still dont understand how safeguard works? Can the Item still boom with safeguard on? If not, why dont we use it for rare items? When do i get the trace? How can i convert the trace back to normal? Do i always get a trace on boom? Does the Item keep the pot on boom? Does it keep the flame on boom? Does it cost meso to get the Item back? Please make a boom guide 😅
Hey Duky, thanks for the informative video, it was just what I needed the most, always helpful and I appreciate it. But now I have a question since they just released the sunny Sundays events with the 30% and 5/10/15 on different Sundays. What would be the best approach to maximizing gains/meso cost for both events? What’s the best approach on how to star for each event respectively?
Big disagree on not going past 17 on arcane weapon, if you have plenty of spares then its sure worth it to use some and try for some gains, I used my 21* weapon for months before I libbed, its not as if I spent 100B to get it above 17. Going by that logic you could say its not worth ever star forcing anything except end game gear as those items will be replaced.
yea exactly! Why invest in temp gear? Starring Arcane past 12 is lowkey trolling too, you could have used that money you spent on literally anything else that is perm
@@Duky My weapon was 'temp' for months until I libbed, and definitely helped me clear bosses faster/easier in that time, score higher culvert, punch king scores etc, very much worth it for a couple billion investment in my opinion. I lack in the hands department, so extra damage is always nice.
WHat about SW pendant? I currently have enough for the tattoo but I was going to save up for the pendant. Is there an ideal order for SW equips of most important to least important to get?
if i rolled 3L on my sup ring, pendant and earrings (ikr wtf) do i just fodder into it and reroll pot in the future or wait for more coins for more spares?
Can’t you just craft dom pendants? I get they’re hard to drop but I feel like no one talks about the fact that you could craft it unless I’m missing something lol
if you're supposed to transpose 16* pap mark -> sweetwater. Why can't you transpose at a higher star for higher stats? (e.g.transpose a 17* pap mark -> sweetwater)
23:06 the odds of 22ing one piece over 18 all three pieces you have to obviously understand has way more risk doing so. i have never blown up a piece to 18 over trying to just 20* a piece. thats alot.
Honestly, I'd rather just hope that nexon will make it easier to starforce up to 20 stars like they did with 15. Even if the meso cost goes up a lot for it. The rng for starforce past 17 is so bad. A lot of people, including myself, have never even reached 20 stars because of how bad the rng is for starforcing equips. I get better rng chances in cubing than starforce.
i think if ur cra is 22, and have 5 set arcane at 17, rest of ur gear is 17, around 2 line equips, prob between lv 260-270, u can solo cslime. Assuming you have legion too
Not sure if I just got lucky but last week I got 3 boxes and got the full set, probably been running ctene for a month also died out in gloom. Are you switching to drop gear and using legion coupons? Instanced boxes drop rate are affected by your own drop rate. I was at 313% drop rate
Because it doesn’t affect your success rate. There’s no actual evidence that fail stacking actually works. It’s just people with their own superstitions.
@Overdragoon there's definitely no evidence fail stacking works, however the opposite is true. And idk if that estimator site accounts for "pass stacking" increases your fail rate; this increases the cost by way more than just what the math estimates for you. Edit: grammar
@@Overdragoonanyone who's make a couple dozens worth of mule gear in an hour would notice the unnaturally increased fail rate. Even failing 1-2 sf and raging.
instructions unclear - i boomed all my items
Thanks to this video, I’m finally full 25*! Thanks Duky, I’m no longer homeless & found an NKaling party!
"Average costs factors in crazy outliers"
30B in 5/10/15 on CRA, shit went from 17-> 19.
Expect the unexpected, Remove Emotion, WAP Everyday until you have enough to get more than the range of cost
This helps me a lot from getting lost in star forcing gear, thanks so much!!
Things I know about starforcing, make as much meso as possible before a 5/10/15. I always avoid 30% as you can save money to failstack. Now you can 22* both off event and on event. You can boom all your spares on shining. You don’t know if you’re gonna hit until u keep gambling. In Starforcing, the house always wins.
Thank you, this clarifies alot for me. Between seeing something hit 20 star I had over 20 items boom on me. I'm surprised people saying they boomed something 40 times isn't the norm.
Thanks for this! I’m sure my friends are getting tired of me asking all the time what to star things too and what to transfer 😂
thank you duky for everything. go west / dreamer has been my favorite event so far. i learned so much about this game.
thank you for watching my stuff, thats very sweet and im happy to hear that
One thing I think a sf guide need, since it helps newbies most, is that how long time it is expected to achieve, as well as the level/cp. Also, it'd be better to compare the priority of sf as well as pot on different items.
Thanks man, way more info than I've seen/heard previously, learnt a bit for sure!
I am a new player I started a month ago. Just spent 4 bil starforcing to 17 and going legendary on all my potentials. In the stat sheet my combat power more than doubled from 1.5m to 4.1m. Still a lot of work to do!
I starforced my tyrant Altair Cape to 24 thanks duky!
Thanks! I've been waiting a lot for this!
I really like your videos man I learned a lot and I really appreciate your help to the community, specially with new players. Plus, you’re funny as hell.
ty bro
Been doing hard bosses for 3 months now and 0 arcane boxes have dropped for me, will keep track for a year and see how many I get lol.
I WISH I COULD LIKE THIS TWICE !! THANK YOU !!!!!!
before this video i was poor, sad and alone thanks to you im now the owner of a multi-billion dollar company, happy and i have a wife. Thanks Duky.
I didn't know about the pap and monocle xpose. Ty
Cool vid.
I'm at ~120m cp pre-lib rn, almost full 21* with some 22* but not wearing any pitched yet.
I have like 8 different pitched equips in my inventory (2 zerks, 2 sos, 2 eyepatches, 1 endless terror, 1 dreamy belt) - seems likely to me that if I star all of these, at least one of them should probably hit 22* right?
At this point, would you invest meso in getting gollux set / kanna's treasure / twilight mark all from 21 to 22 or would you rather use the meso for pitched attempts? Leaning on the former
former
Hey bro can you please make like a (I guess you can call it a motivational video lol) on how not to burn out on learning new bosses. For example Iv been practicing Will for like a month now but i still can't clear it because i just suck at the game. Any advice/suggestions?
1) consider recording a Will attempt so you can watch it later and see what's going wrong for you
2) Don't be scared to ask your class discord or guild for advice! I was always webbing out in p3 because I didn't know you had to run into 2 webs after using moonlight to clear webs until I straight-up asked how to clear webs XD
3) try doing solo practice on a lower difficulty(if possible) so you're not worrying about damage and can focus on learning the boss's attacks and tests.
4) Don't worry about struggling with a boss, especially Will. I think he's the first mechanically intense boss you face in MapleStory, and is a wall for many newer players, my party included! Master the boss at your own pace with the knowledge that learning the boss will both make future attempts easier and prepare you for future bosses
I always watch your videos, but sometimes i get a little confused since i'm playing in reg and things sometimes are different there. In case you can comment these difference while making some points would be really helpful 🙏.
Also I have a question that maybe you can answer in another video, happens that with this starforcing and booming, i know that your potentials change when you transpose items, but i'm not sure how this happens if i have an item and boom and i already have some lines in legendary. If I already have an item in 17* with leg potentials then is no good to traspose items from lower lvl and higher stars on it since it will loose potentials or something like that?. Cheers, keep the good work!
Duky is carrying the whole maple community with these vids! Keep pumping bro!
I dont get it I boomed everything and my equipment tab is all grey (empty)
Hey mate. Would u recommend sf'ing a sup pend then transfer to SoS for reg server as well? And if I do, what scrolls should I use on the sup pend before transfering. Should I prime the sup pend first if I don't wanna go through the perfect +6 icog cancer. Or just use regular adv gollux scrolls?
BTW ty for your content. It's nice to see someone so committed to help the maplestory community with the so detailed guides your making. I know that takes a lot of time to make the content your coming up with.
Keep up with the good work mate!
Transfer Hammer Superior Gollux Pendants into SoS’s is still the way to go in reg server. A clean Superior Gollux pendant costs less than 1B while an SoS is still in the 15B-20B range. The stats on the Gollux Pendant and SoS don’t matter as you would only care about the stars. So you don’t need to worry about scrolling until the SoS is fully 22*’ed.
After transferring and successfully 22’ing an SoS you’d use an ark innocence scroll to reset the scroll slots but keep the stars. From there you can scroll it however you want. For mine I went 1st slot iCoG (+6att) and the rest of the slots were premium accessory scrolls (+4 to +5 att) as that was the best cost-efficient way to scroll it.
Also, don’t ever cube an SoS before it’s 22* as transfer hammer removes its potential. Good luck!
@@Overdragoon Can I prime the SoS before I transfer the 22* sup to it?
@@omgfaso yes. If you specifically want to prime scroll it you have to scroll the SoS itself with prime scrolls BEFORE you transfer hammer. The reason being that prime scrolls can destroy your item so you have to use shielding wards along with them. And these cannot be used on items that have more than 12 stars. If you’re planning to icog/x scroll/v scroll you can do it either before or after
Thank you, so useful for me ❤
Chills 🥶❄️
i like your guide and video a lot
but too bad I didn't play on this server (I play on MapleSEA) which didn't have some of the gears you mention
but it's still good video, thanks
Isn't sweetwater pendant a late game option? Compared to daybreak or dominator, it's not hard to get spare parts, has an extra star att from sweetwater transpose, plus it's lvl 160 so each line of potential has 1% more stat. I think those should be enough to compensate the terrible flame lines.
for spare items like CRA, do you tap a fresh equips to 22 or the one you're wearing to 22 and transfer it if it got boomed
The one ur wearing
Mr Duky! This topic would have a very niche target viewer ship but would you ever make a video on pushing 23*/pushing past triple T6/ double primes?
i mean i dont wanna say id NEVER do a video on that, but at the moment id rather make videos that more people could find useful. 23 starring, double priming, perfect flaming, almost no one actually experiences that, and honestly i feel that type of spending is going to get fazed out when a new meso sink comes out at some point. It's not really a normal thing to do
@@Duky I appreciate the response! Let’s see what Azmos canyon brings :)
woooo my suggestion made it!
Thank you for the video. I still dont understand how safeguard works?
Can the Item still boom with safeguard on? If not, why dont we use it for rare items? When do i get the trace? How can i convert the trace back to normal? Do i always get a trace on boom? Does the Item keep the pot on boom? Does it keep the flame on boom? Does it cost meso to get the Item back? Please make a boom guide 😅
You can safeguard up to 17 and it won’t boom. Costs 2x meso tho. Flame and pot stay if u boom. It just goes back to 12 and u need another spare
Pro tip: Have billions upon billions of mesos for this
Hey Duky, thanks for the informative video, it was just what I needed the most, always helpful and I appreciate it. But now I have a question since they just released the sunny Sundays events with the 30% and 5/10/15 on different Sundays. What would be the best approach to maximizing gains/meso cost for both events? What’s the best approach on how to star for each event respectively?
use 30% off to get 15*, 51015 to get anything higher
@@Duky Thanks my man!
Big disagree on not going past 17 on arcane weapon, if you have plenty of spares then its sure worth it to use some and try for some gains, I used my 21* weapon for months before I libbed, its not as if I spent 100B to get it above 17.
Going by that logic you could say its not worth ever star forcing anything except end game gear as those items will be replaced.
yea exactly! Why invest in temp gear? Starring Arcane past 12 is lowkey trolling too, you could have used that money you spent on literally anything else that is perm
@@Duky My weapon was 'temp' for months until I libbed, and definitely helped me clear bosses faster/easier in that time, score higher culvert, punch king scores etc, very much worth it for a couple billion investment in my opinion. I lack in the hands department, so extra damage is always nice.
If my gear is already 17*+ and I'm trying to go higher, is it still better to wait for 5/10/15? Or is 30% off useful in that case?
51015 is better
what do you think about transferring shiny red meister symbols to twilight marks to get it to 19*?
Not worth unless ur settling 19 and only have one twilight
I wanna reiterate the settling on 21 on some gear until you have back ups to full send 22*
besides Pitchies items... 22 star that shit dont be weird.
WHat about SW pendant? I currently have enough for the tattoo but I was going to save up for the pendant. Is there an ideal order for SW equips of most important to least important to get?
u can get it sure if u want, i just think the others are less out of ur way to get. I talked about the SW items in the face/eye part
Always quit maplestory a month before any starforce event to increase odds 🎉
Thank you for the video! Just a question, is it ok to settle my zerk at 19 if i currently lack tm spares and its sitting at 17?
yea just know ur gonna have to tap it 22 at some point
if i rolled 3L on my sup ring, pendant and earrings (ikr wtf) do i just fodder into it and reroll pot in the future or wait for more coins for more spares?
What would you recommend you 22* first? Or should I slowly climb all my equips from 17-22
go by how many spares you have of items. The reason people do CRA first to 22 for example is cuz they have like 50 backups of each
Can’t you just craft dom pendants? I get they’re hard to drop but I feel like no one talks about the fact that you could craft it unless I’m missing something lol
very expensive to craft, most ppl wont be able to
Very useful
People tend to think being lucky is normal and normal losing rates are unlucky. Same as people gambling
if you're supposed to transpose 16* pap mark -> sweetwater. Why can't you transpose at a higher star for higher stats? (e.g.transpose a 17* pap mark -> sweetwater)
cuz the sweetwater is higher level and u want as many stars from that item going from 15-22 as possible. Higher level items get more per star
Calculator is good for estimating but would still depend on luck
Thanks
23:06 the odds of 22ing one piece over 18 all three pieces you have to obviously understand has way more risk doing so. i have never blown up a piece to 18 over trying to just 20* a piece. thats alot.
How do you transpose? I thought there was only transferring?
its shown in the video
Ight now we need a Scrolling guide.
If you boom something to xfer to like a sup gollux pendant, do u start over from dom pendant again or just trace the spare and starting there?
start over, it gollux pend is 1 month of gollux
i never boom 40cape but i burned 80b on a cra top like 4-5 years ago never got to 20* once
i did solo lomian for almost 2 year,.... the pitch never drop
Chills
When is best and worst mage class vid coming out? Love your energy tho!
waiting on phil to comeback from vacation
W upload yet AGAIN
What’s the point of anything
Honestly, I'd rather just hope that nexon will make it easier to starforce up to 20 stars like they did with 15. Even if the meso cost goes up a lot for it. The rng for starforce past 17 is so bad. A lot of people, including myself, have never even reached 20 stars because of how bad the rng is for starforcing equips. I get better rng chances in cubing than starforce.
Dont listen, off event is best event. ❤
is Estella earrings not worth tapping to 22 or just use it as drop gear?
you can if u want
Never clicked so fast
why is 5/10/15 better than 30% off? is there something I'm missing?
Guaranteed 15-16 saves u more money
@@Duky oh ok thanks 👍
Very nice :)
omg just got my first 22
...as someone who has many many mules with 17* arcanes and 22* cra. You most definitely can not solo c slime lol
i think if ur cra is 22, and have 5 set arcane at 17, rest of ur gear is 17, around 2 line equips, prob between lv 260-270, u can solo cslime. Assuming you have legion too
WHAT ORDER SHOULD I STARFORCE MY ITEMS IN DUKY? IM UNABLE TO THINK BY MYSELF
go by how many spares you have
That comment about bullying people for only having Endless Terror at 19* 🤣🤣🤣
hey duky, do you have any tips on getting lucky?
i dont think ive ever been lucky once in my life /s
@@Duky beep beep the cap meter is going off
If I have a 17 star pap mark, do I transpose to a monocle and just keep staring the monocle instead?
no, if its 17, you can either tap and hope it fails to 16 and then transpose, or try and get the pap mark to 22
I cant star my pensalir to 22 help
Don’t invest in Pensalir, if you want to go beyond 15* get at least CRA/Arcane
I need a winter jacket
LOL
What’s the point?
So if I transfer pendent to gollux pendent at 21 and I fail to 22* so it goes back to 20* do I 22* another DOM then transfer back 21* gollux pendant?
you can if you want, id just tap cuz im lazy
For the monocal (ignore my spelling), can you sf beyond 16 before transposing? Like what if i went to 17* and then transposed to the monocal?
it must be exactly 16
YOU ARE COOKING
I just boomed my house
All Hard Ctene for 4 months straight now still not a single arcane box... Frick my chungus life
Not sure if I just got lucky but last week I got 3 boxes and got the full set, probably been running ctene for a month also died out in gloom. Are you switching to drop gear and using legion coupons? Instanced boxes drop rate are affected by your own drop rate. I was at 313% drop rate
@@LaosT5 Wow you are definetely lucky. I was around 300-350 drop for all kills however drop rate does not affect arcane box drops, only ring boxes.
what happen with the potential when trasnfering?
goes back to epic
🥶 ⛄️ ❄️
Eh that guide doesn’t mention stacking rng fails or passing too many times affecting your success rate.
Because it doesn’t affect your success rate. There’s no actual evidence that fail stacking actually works. It’s just people with their own superstitions.
@Overdragoon there's definitely no evidence fail stacking works, however the opposite is true.
And idk if that estimator site accounts for "pass stacking" increases your fail rate; this increases the cost by way more than just what the math estimates for you.
Edit: grammar
@@Overdragoonanyone who's make a couple dozens worth of mule gear in an hour would notice the unnaturally increased fail rate.
Even failing 1-2 sf and raging.
might have to make a whole video on maplestory superstition
W video
Beware of the account review when my fevers gone :) don't make fun of me bruh
Shout out GMS Kronos JusChillin guild😊😊
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oh no not the E.T 21* settle, zainnu was gaslighted by some vicious clown in guild/smega to tap his 21* E.T, now he is a kronosian
before this video i was poor, sad and alone thanks to you im now the owner of a multi-billion dollar company, happy and i have a wife. Thanks Duky.