Soldering WITHOUT a soldering iron? Solder & Seal Connectors

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
  • What if you could Solder and Heat Shrink a wire connection in one step with a heat gun. No need for crimping tools or a soldering iron. With these solder and seal connections you can, but how well do they really work in comparison to a traditional soldered and protected with heat shrink connection? Let's take a look.
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  • @charitylloyd986
    @charitylloyd986 Před 5 lety +139

    I've used these on aircraft wiring during my time in the Air Force for both Communication Systems wiring as well as other general wiring, so I think if they are good enough for Military Aircraft, they are probably good enough for car audio.
    That being said, they are a bit picky until you learn their little tricks. First, you need to twist the wires in the same manner you did when you used the traditional soldering method. Second, if you heat both outer ends prior to melting the middle, they definitely aren't going to slip on you. And lastly, if you're doing a big wire bundle like the one shown here, it's best to stagger the splices, to keep bundle size down and make it easier to avoid accidentally over heating the other connections. Slipping a heat shield of some sort in between the slice you are working on and the other wires in the bundle helps prevent this as well. A metal pie plate works well, because they are easy to but to the size you need, and disposable. Personally, if I were doing a bundle, I would slip a big piece of shrink tube over the whole thing at the end, because they do look like shit when compared to the traditional method.
    One last comment, the thing you said about someone without a soldering iron probably not having a heat gun is a little off. Someone who is into car wraps would definitely have a heat gun and no iron, and it's pretty easy to imagine someone expanding their scope from wrapping to include audio as well.
    As always, though, good video!

    • @CRSolarice
      @CRSolarice Před 5 lety +5

      ...are you really that beautiful or is this just some sort of faux profile? In all of the world...

    • @jasonronin6814
      @jasonronin6814 Před 5 lety +6

      Charity Lloyd perfectly said. I’ve used these connectors with great success...big time savers!

    • @pcicraftsman8472
      @pcicraftsman8472 Před 5 lety +6

      I was going to say the same thing about staggering and twisting the wires but you did mention a few other tricks I wasn't aware of. You just tought me a few neat tricks thank you.

    • @dumbasshit1
      @dumbasshit1 Před 4 lety +4

      Excellent, well-written reply.

    • @vondenballs
      @vondenballs Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks. Very useful. I was wondering about flexibility. Soldering is too rigid for my bike application.

  • @andyhunt2644
    @andyhunt2644 Před 6 lety +39

    Used them to build wire harnesses for military subcontractors. Need a nozzle and adjustable heat. If they worked good enough for a tank or plane, more than sufficient for car audio

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay Před 4 lety

      sounds like the crucial point is--DO THEY ALL provide that ?

  • @matthewadams9900
    @matthewadams9900 Před 6 lety +46

    The Air Forces uses the seal connectors on their aircraft. They hold up better to moisture. I use them on my boat and have had really good lucky keeping the salt water out of the connectors. They are a little more expensive but to me they're worth the money. Also, to me, they are easier to use.

    • @jqmachgunner2577
      @jqmachgunner2577 Před 3 lety +2

      @RandomKind That's an extra step, but many mariners use these seal solder connectors and then add several layers of heatshrink with sealing compound to obtain the best waterproofing possible.

    • @NFLYoungBoy223
      @NFLYoungBoy223 Před rokem +1

      During MOS school the Marine Corps has those

  • @MrDanthemaniam
    @MrDanthemaniam Před 6 lety +41

    I've been using these things for about 20 years now and I must say I really like them for confined spaces. What you really need is a heat gun where you can dial in the temperature. With the connectors I use the entire ring melts It didn't look like the whole ring melted on yours. That may be because it wasn't hot enough. The other thing is, you need to confine the heat with a nozzle. I use a Steinel heat gun. It has a digital temperature control and indicator. It came in a kit to do hot air plastic welding, heat shrinking, paint stripping and other things. It has a full assortment of nozzles. it includes a couple sizes were the nozzle wraps around the connector so you only have to position it one or two times. Using this gun with these connectors I can do a joint in about 30 seconds. Also unless you're using adhesive wall heat shrink your not getting a sealed joint like these. So for marine applications these are the way to go.

    • @glenn8773
      @glenn8773 Před 6 lety +1

      I agree. I think the heat gun being used does not concentrate the heat to the heat shrink tubes. I don't know about adjustable temp heat guns but I do own a 300w flashlight style heat gun that has a nozzle which I think would be perfect for the job. Also, stepping the connections would be better rather than having all the connections bundled together. Makes it look slimmer especially if you shrink wrap the whole job of 9 connections for example. I'm definitely going to order a bunch of these heat shrink connectors

    • @Chad_at_Big_CAT_Networking
      @Chad_at_Big_CAT_Networking Před 6 lety +3

      Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that right off the bat! The adjustable heatgun with the shrouds are worth the money!

    • @ardemus
      @ardemus Před 6 lety +2

      That was my thought as well, a good heat gun with a small straw style nozzle might work better, and will work worlds faster. I've never used these solder and seal connectors, but even just for shrink tubing the nozzle makes a startling difference.

    • @northwiebesick7136
      @northwiebesick7136 Před 6 lety

      Glenn Kotze stepping the connectors??? You basically mean making the wires different lengths to keep the individual tubings from touching??? If so, then yes, it sounds like that would work loads better for say, shrink wrapping as you suggested...

    • @rogerlawter2036
      @rogerlawter2036 Před 6 lety +1

      You are right. He did mention that the insulation was starting to melt because his nozzle was vary large and throwing out the heat in a wide area. A deflector nozzle would have directed the heat to the other side enveloping the solder connector and correctly melted the ring as you stated. The military has been using these for many years for a good reason, and I have built many a cable with these. In an automotive environment, I wouldn't use anything less.

  • @Venumundo
    @Venumundo Před 6 lety +10

    Hey Mark! Wanted to add my experience with these type of solder sleeves. So I work in aviation and we use those solder sleeves in the wiring of the helicopter radios for communications, transponder, and media. But they are only used to solder the shielding of the multiple conductor wiring to ground to reduce EMF noise, then we use closed barrel terminals to install it into a connector. So they only serve for grounding purposes in radios. Especially since they are $7 a piece, but they use a higher temperature solder and heat shrink and the wire is a nylon insulation that can withstand more heat and vibration than car wiring can. We are even not allowed to splice radio wire, either the wire needs to be replaced or be re-terminated. If we splice anything, there can’t be more than one splice per wire in non radio applications. Very rarely do we solder anything in our application; switches used to toggle comms is where we use it or micro switches for actuators. And also to add to the frustration you can’t twist wires together to secure them either. Everything has a specific terminal that must be used with a double crimp, one the wire and the other on the insulation for security that requires a double crimp tool. Thought you might find it interesting! 👍

  • @AlexSwavely
    @AlexSwavely Před 6 lety +9

    I think using a compact heat gun intended specifically for heat shrink tube would be the way to go on this. There's a deflector which the wire goes in and it heats up most of the way around the tube at the same time, and you can of course get it into smaller spaces with it.

    • @michaelb7071
      @michaelb7071 Před 2 lety

      This is exactly how those Raychem CWT connectors are supposed to be installed. Heatgun with small nozzle and deflector.
      There are detailed application instructions available from TE connectivity.

  • @index7787
    @index7787 Před 5 lety +4

    These things are fantastic. Been using them the last couple jobs. They are completely waterproof and can be done with a bic lighter in a pinch.

  • @Watchingyou-daily
    @Watchingyou-daily Před 5 lety +24

    Since we use similar products in the aviation I would recommend staggering the joints.

    • @raychambers3646
      @raychambers3646 Před 4 lety +1

      My thoughts exactly .

    • @thebkg
      @thebkg Před 3 lety +1

      Not always an option in the Car Audio world though. Many times we're working with pre-stripped harnesses.

  • @PoppaTInstall
    @PoppaTInstall Před 6 lety +1

    Mark has done it! Now YT please quit advertising these in my feed. You are the man!!!

  • @davect01
    @davect01 Před 6 lety +12

    This is a great product for in car installations. Solder on a bench is ideal, but often we are wiring up stuff in the car and getting a smoldering iron in there is not plausible

    • @Candisa
      @Candisa Před 6 lety +2

      Dave Taylor 1 word: crimp!
      A good crimp is better than the best solder, that's why only crimping is allowed in some industries and anything stock in a car is usually crimped.

    • @tl1024
      @tl1024 Před 6 lety +1

      Candisa, So, it has nothing to do with time and energy to solder the joints, right? Cost and speed rule production lines, not "top quality first". I'm not one, but a NASA trained electrician I associate with on the net solders his wires. (He goes by Jonnie B, if you think I made this up)

    • @Candisa
      @Candisa Před 6 lety +1

      T L If it were for cost and energy, they would solder instead of crimp, which some actually did, resulting in brokes wires right next to the solder joint because of vibration over time.
      NASA/military solder joints aren't even twisted together before soldering, the wire ends are saturated with solder individually, positioned side by side against eachother and molten together. Those joints are very easily serviceable on site without damaging the wires (no need to cut and restrip), but they aren't the best connection electronically nor mechanically. In high current situations they do not solder, they avoid connections as much as possible and crimp the ones that are unavoidable.

  • @edwardpic1828
    @edwardpic1828 Před 5 lety +2

    I use these on the custom vehicles I build. Key is a concentrated nozzle to direct the heat. I use 30 to 40 of these in each vehicle, they are a time saver for me and my employees.

  • @andyrew914
    @andyrew914 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you so much for doing this! I just bought yesterday some of these myself and am waiting for it to come in to see what my thoughts are on it for a rewire.

  • @suprola7961
    @suprola7961 Před 6 lety +3

    I have also seen these all over social media. I was very curious about them.
    Thanks for making this video!

  • @GGigabiteM
    @GGigabiteM Před 6 lety +34

    The reason you're having problems and getting poor results is because you're using a heatgun designed to remove paint and wallpaper, without a concentrator nozzle even. These heat guns also get far too hot, some up to 1200C. With how much the heating elements were glowing inside your gun, I'd say you were on the smokin' hot side.
    You need a hot air workstation so you can control the temperature of the air and have a fine enough nozzle so you only heat the connection and not the entire bundle of wires. You can set the temperature low enough to avoid melting the wire as well.

  • @TheSully08282
    @TheSully08282 Před 6 lety +2

    My experience with these has so far been positive. I like them in wet or moist areas better than the traditional method. Here in the south we have a lot of humidity so any connections that will be outside have to be sealed. I still use my soldering gun and heat shrink on most of my audio connections simply due to the fact that it's cheaper and it solidifies faster allowing me to move on the next connection without waiting for the previous connection to cool.

  • @JacobFrey
    @JacobFrey Před 6 lety +31

    That is a neat product idea - not going to replace my solder and iron though.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 6 lety

      I tend to agree, I think they have their place, but now you know.

    • @freakenstein1991
      @freakenstein1991 Před 6 lety +2

      I'll stick to just twist and tape..

    • @rokibuca
      @rokibuca Před 6 lety

      if you do DIY stereo replacement and you don't have an iron or don't even know how to used is great idea definitely better then crimp connections

    • @yordanky76
      @yordanky76 Před 3 lety

      You can always use your girl hair blower

  • @VINNY5674
    @VINNY5674 Před 5 lety +8

    I use non-insulated butt connectors with Adhesive shrink. Crimp crimp heat gun 123....all said and done!

  • @ethanheaton8109
    @ethanheaton8109 Před 6 lety +1

    I have been considering buying those to try out but haven’t got around to it but I’m glad I didn’t waist my money on them the soldering iron lives another day

  • @jesuspadilla6428
    @jesuspadilla6428 Před 6 lety +1

    I've been seeing this product in my feed as well, thanks for the detailed video.

  • @Chad_at_Big_CAT_Networking

    I use these all the time on military planes. Get yourself an adjustable temp heatgun with a C shaped shroud so you don't have to move your gun all around and run it so hot. It also helps to not melt your fingerprints off or wires.

  • @sjgoff
    @sjgoff Před 6 lety +14

    I can see using these in an area that may see moisture like in an engine bay or trailer light wiring (soooooo many scotch locks in trailer wiring). We also used these a lot by the technicians in the dealership service dept. I managed mainly because they were pretty foolproof for the guys that weren't really good at soldering. I myself will stick to a solder gun and heatshrink. I like to know the solder is properly flowing around the wires. Not sure I trust solder that will melt with a heat gun.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 6 lety

      I could see them being good for the application you mentioned.

    • @freakenstein1991
      @freakenstein1991 Před 6 lety

      I've heard they use these in the navy alot

    • @6door6four96
      @6door6four96 Před 6 lety +1

      I see them as a great product to keep in your vehicle with a lighter easy and quick road side wiring fix to get you home

    • @saltysteel3996
      @saltysteel3996 Před 6 lety +4

      Steve Goff, most heat guns can get hot enough to melt solder. My digital heat gun can turn up to 1200 degrees Fahrenheit with adjustable fan speeds. I can flow multiple solder joints on a board at the same time with just hot air. Lol

  • @BartLogic
    @BartLogic Před 6 lety +2

    I work in the Marine electronics business and love these "Solder Sleeves". I use the original TE/Raychem versions and these cover the copper a lot better. It looks like yours are missing a good solder flux. Especially for on-sight repairs these Solder Sleeves rock! Saves me a lot of time and a simple butane torch makes for a fast repair or modification.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 4 lety +1

      The average consumer isn't going to buy the TE ones though, I have seen nothing but links to Amazon ones in car audio groups, so thats what I reviewed.

    • @WFSDNO
      @WFSDNO Před 10 měsíci

      I agree with CAF. Most people aren't going to spend $5-$7 per connection. These low cost alternative will work just not as well as the expensive one. These are the Harbor Freight versions....lol.

  • @7dashti
    @7dashti Před 6 lety +2

    man i always respect you because you enjoy sharing as much knowledge as you can. I'd be honored to buy your merch :D

  • @AutomotivEivind
    @AutomotivEivind Před 6 lety +1

    Really good and thorough test I think. Thank you very much for making this!
    I don't use these myself, but have seen them available at a couple of workshops. More common, and kind of similar looking I think, is the crimps with clear/tinted heatshrink with glue on them.
    Personaly I am a solder guy, and usually only vary the type of heatshrink I use (with or without glue).

  • @bobdodge3171
    @bobdodge3171 Před 6 lety +1

    Those cable cutters are awesome.. For the size they cut very well.

  • @alphaomega8373
    @alphaomega8373 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you for the heads up!

  • @petehuskins
    @petehuskins Před 5 lety +1

    Thganks for the video. I looked at these things when I was doing a bunch of re-wiring work on my motorcycle but ended up using traditional methods because I already had all the stuff I needed but it's good to know that for certain applications, they do work. One thought though, on e-bay, they range quite a lot in price, I'm sure there are some that perform way better than others.

  • @TickleFingers
    @TickleFingers Před 6 lety +3

    The connection with those connectors is actually a better connection even though you can see exposed copper. There is no wicking under the insulation which actually creates a weakend solder joint that can cause wire failure under the insulation. Even people with years of solder experience cannot replicate a proper solder joint between two wires over and over. This is why crimping is a standard in some critical industries.
    Next I would say that if you starting out with a cold heat gun, the time to proper temp and the low temp solder melting is increased. If that heat gun was already full temp I am certain it would not have taken even close to that amount of time to complete. I have used these solder connectors in all kinds of applications and it never takes more than a few seconds.
    Now, where these become a pain in the ass is when your on tight quarters new material that can melt from the heat gun discharge. But, a hot iron can also be just as damaging in tight quarters as well.
    I use these connectors as often as I can to save time and maintain consistency. I'll use a soldering iron after that if need be.

  • @philb707
    @philb707 Před 6 lety +1

    Looks like it will work great in tight spaces, going to order some. You the man Mark!

  • @IIIsticksone
    @IIIsticksone Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for doing this. I keep seeing this on instagram and was wondering how good they were.

  • @justinmurphy2227
    @justinmurphy2227 Před 6 lety +1

    I have the exact same kit! I love these.
    I had to tap in to a few wire in the kick panel last month while starting my SQ build in my 05 Acura TL. It was a very tight area and I could barely get the wires stripped.....more less a set of crimpers in there. I really wanted to try these out so out they came!
    I guess I could have truly used my soldering gun to handle this job.....I guess I did....in a way though...lol!
    Being close quarters, I didn't want to use my butane torch and risk damage or even fire. So, I used my Milwaukee 12 volt soldering iron with the flat plastic welding tip to run over the connector. I would turn it slightly back in forth....sort of a rotisserie method. LOL.
    IT WORKED!
    It probably took longer than a torch but it was safer.
    By the way, this soldering iron is awesome! Lots of features. Heats up in 30 seconds. A light tells you when you can put it up. The head can be angled. Also, if you get the high capacity batteries, it acts like a stand for the iron.
    Again, thank you Mark.
    Another great, USEFUL, video!

  • @kr33p1n
    @kr33p1n Před 6 lety +1

    Good video. I have been wondering about these things I see them popping up all over the place thank you

  • @CoMmOdUss
    @CoMmOdUss Před 6 lety +1

    Ive seen those around for years, felt really stupid that i had no idea how to use them! Ty for this video

  • @ChiTownTino
    @ChiTownTino Před 6 lety +1

    I just started using those. I am a Fan!

  • @ChauNguyen-hp3zg
    @ChauNguyen-hp3zg Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you for a fair review👍🏼

  • @ajw148
    @ajw148 Před 4 lety +1

    These work out great for me because its just less stuff to use for wires like speaker wires. You can even a lighter. So they do work in some instances.

  • @CVM222VOLT
    @CVM222VOLT Před 4 lety +1

    I read down a good number of replies and did not see this addressed .... with conventionali soldering, I always like to use a bit of electronics flux as it seems to pull the solder into the strands of multi stranded wire connections. Wondering how the low temp solder in these connectors would respond if flux is utililized. Thanks for the always informative videos Mark. You are a true craftsman as the results of your projects always show.

    • @dslewis01
      @dslewis01 Před 4 lety

      x2 on FLUX!!!
      These are my primary go -to. Just wired up some relays inside my FJ Cruiser yesterday. Dip each lead into flux, insert & heat for WAY less than a minute before I get flow (~20/30 sec). Depending on application/location I've used butane soldering iron (w/o the soldering tip, just the hot-head), a small crafting heat-gun & full size heat gun (fastest).
      I strip the insulation to give total overlap when inserted, but have insulation go slightly inside of color band, heat ends first to lock-in, then hit the solder ring, let cool (canned air GOOD) then second sleeve of heat_shrink (color matched to wire when possible, thank you, OCD...)
      FLUX...
      Stagger...
      Heat shrink.

  • @isaacayestas
    @isaacayestas Před 5 lety +11

    how about using a smaller propane powered heat gun

  • @bradleysmith681
    @bradleysmith681 Před 4 lety

    Great video. I like them. The TE brand works extremely well. Also, it's best to attach a reflector to your heat gun so that the connector is surrounded by the hot air. Causes uniform melt of solder and shrinkage of tubing. Thanks for video!

  • @improvingshooter5423
    @improvingshooter5423 Před 5 lety

    Great channel! I have been playing with car audio for almost 20 years and have learned new methods and techniques from you. Keep up the good work!
    I will buy a shirt to help support the channel.

  • @joshgour8877
    @joshgour8877 Před 6 lety +1

    Solder and heat shrink all the way, if not then barrel connectors, great video as always Mark

  • @usagimoto1423
    @usagimoto1423 Před 5 lety +1

    I would definitely get a adapter for that heat gun to focus into a smaller hole. It really helps with heat shrink and solder sleeve such as the one you’re working with

  • @larrywebb8309
    @larrywebb8309 Před 5 lety

    Also , another technique is after twisting wires together squash them with vise grips to sort of crimp them , then solder.
    Thanks for all the informational videos

  • @LukeTheJoker
    @LukeTheJoker Před 6 lety

    Nice video and what seems to be a very fair assessment, thanks for doing this!

  • @iamthemaninde
    @iamthemaninde Před 6 lety +1

    Think I'll be sticking with the ol soldering iron and heat shrink .... Awesome video though beings I've never seen those connection in use.👍 Thank you once again!!

  • @ExtraFungus
    @ExtraFungus Před 5 lety

    I figured you'd like them as others have. I know how to solder and like the looks of the finished soldering/shrink tube better, I wasn't aware of any advantages or disadvantages.

  • @ArmandoMartinez-zz5xt
    @ArmandoMartinez-zz5xt Před 3 lety

    I love those things, I typically use a small pen torch, heats them up nicely!!

  • @jackleonard2088
    @jackleonard2088 Před 3 lety

    I’ve been using this system with pond lighting. I also put a single piece of heat shrink over all joints together.

  • @haukurthorsmarason5267

    I work on trucks and trailers and we almost exclusive use these. Like others have said, you need a narrow nozzle and a good, adjustable heatgun. Staggered connections make for little or no bulk. We routinely splice 15 conductor trailer wiring cables using these and finish with adhesive lined heatshrink.

  • @markfrench2700
    @markfrench2700 Před 6 lety +3

    I soldered a loom for my new head unit this week and I was really happy with how quick I got the soldering done... until I saw you only took 1min10 secs😶 I can see one advantage of the solder and seal connectors though. I wouldn't have had to cut and redo the 3 wires that I forgot to put heat shrink on before soldering 🤬

  • @robbyota5598
    @robbyota5598 Před 6 lety +1

    Soldering is great. the only problem I have is if it ever grounded out that low temp solder could melt and then cause other problems when the wires become loose, there is no mechanical connection. Also if the connectors were larger than soldering by itself, you could always splice the wires to different lengths In order to stagger the connections and thickness in one spot.

  • @katywalker8322
    @katywalker8322 Před 3 lety

    I have used them on motorcycle wiring. I do quite like them, and the heat shrink section does seem tougher than generic heat shrink.
    One issue I have had is melting through the heat shrink when trying to melt the solder. Due to this I tend to use an extra piece of conventional heat shrink over the join to make sure there is no uninsulated area I haven't spotted, and to further strain relieve the join.
    I find it far easier to use a heat gun in odd positions than a soldering iron, and far less worry about putting down the heat source between joins. I actually normally use a heat gun sold for household paint stripping (and this is far tougher than my nice temperature controlled soldering iron). While some people won't have such a heat gun, a lot of people seem to manage to use a cigarette lighter for this , and they are far easier to get than either a soldering iron or a heat gun.

  • @ipdjbt
    @ipdjbt Před 6 lety +1

    These would really shine when making road-side repairs, providing of course you have a butane torch or something similar.

  • @bansheemopar
    @bansheemopar Před 6 lety +1

    Here in germany we use these type of shrink and solder connectors since the 90s I think.
    They are the only correct way to repair wires that go to the O2 sensor for example.
    They are not meant to be a time saver, and ours work quite a lot better on the soldering part.

    • @haukurthorsmarason5267
      @haukurthorsmarason5267 Před 5 lety

      I'm a MAN mechanic and we use these for almost everything. Like you said, not really meant as a time saver.

  • @heavychevy383
    @heavychevy383 Před 6 lety +1

    great video as always man. summit racing has a vid showin these using a lil' torch of some sort... think they might be a good way to go for certain projects... & considering the waterproof aspect, i may just use em for rewiring the headlight upgrade on my ol' formula... thanx again for yalls informative videos & god bless

  • @myhdcycle
    @myhdcycle Před 4 lety

    I use these for years on anything that I want to be watertight. I use an open flame micro torch to melt them and have much better luck melting the solder. I love them.

  • @hack0well
    @hack0well Před 6 lety +1

    I tried these at my shop only to come to the same conclusion you did, if you cant solder, don't be an installer. My guys prefer a dedicated soldering/hot air rework station any day of the week. These do have thier place in the consumer genre but the "industry" will never use them. I will say in my testing that the cheap 898D+ rework stations with Hakko clone iron can be had for around 80$ and the 8mm nozzles not only does these better but also does heatshrink wonderful. Any good temperature controlled station with Kester 60/40 leaded solder is the best way to solder but in some situations it helps to use "247 Solder" type LOWTEMP-15. Its in a syringe, melts at 280F, has no clean flux built in, and consists of 42%Tin57%Bismuth1%Silver so it is very convienent to use on wires or circuit boards. Pro-tip : Keep it in the fridge so it doesn t seperate and it will keep long past the date on the syringe, you really only need to pay attention to that for production work that needs consistent melt times. May be do a video on the different grades/types of heatshrink Mark, that is something I get asked quite often by customers/collagues. People tend to cheap out on heatshrink and solder and wonder why the job looks bad. Give me a 20$ iron and some Kester 44 before you take away my good solder and leave me with a 200$ Iron.

  • @vinipess
    @vinipess Před 2 lety

    Love your videos dude, I’ve learnt a lot from you… I use these connectors and they work well..1) The real deal on these connectors is saving steps, not time, make the job simpler, not necessarily faster (less tiring). 2) You can offset the strip/cut on the wires, that will make it less bulky when jointing all off them. Offsetting cuts is also safer, when possible. 3) Come on, there is no real need for getting soldering every single string of the wire… no big deal missing few, as long as they are still in contact, locked in position by the rest. 4) For heating up, just use a lighter (safer than using a heat gun inside the vehicle, much more control)

  • @danielthecarguy6681
    @danielthecarguy6681 Před 6 lety +1

    I use this a lot, but not for car audio. The main area i use them in is other smaller jobs whre i need to connect one or two wires in the field, also i do not use a heat gun but a lighter. For example last week i was replasing a trailer light plug and had to bypass a rear foglight switch.

  • @Underpantsniper
    @Underpantsniper Před 6 lety +1

    great product!! Better than a butt connector yet not as good a nice solder joint. Perfect for beginners!

  • @MrHeHim
    @MrHeHim Před 5 lety +2

    Very interesting, Thanks! I think an amperage test would have been very important here, to see if the joint was comparable if not equal to the normal way under an electrical stress.

    • @jerichojoe307
      @jerichojoe307 Před rokem +1

      These are used all the time for aircraft and boats. Even the Air Force uses them so I'm pretty sure they're good enough for car audio. I've tested electrical resistance myself with these things and there's no noticeable difference if they're installed properly with full melt.

  • @dodgeman4046
    @dodgeman4046 Před 6 lety +1

    Will that low temp solder break down under heat of an engine compartment or overloaded circuit

  • @ianwilson1986
    @ianwilson1986 Před 6 lety +1

    If you use a reducer attachment for your heat gun to isolate the heat to the center first this will help the solder melt better

  • @shredct3118
    @shredct3118 Před 5 lety

    Cool video, thanks bro .

  • @lowhertzhighspl
    @lowhertzhighspl Před 3 lety +2

    What wattage of heat gun is required? My new 300 watt gun doesn't melt the solder😒

  • @elmorules4298
    @elmorules4298 Před 6 lety +1

    These are good, for solid low resistant connection, you need to use a butane torch with heat tip(provides more direct heat to smaller space/faster), pre heat the wires(when joined) then slide over the shrink and heat from center to out in each direction. Will provide a solid connection with just as good cladding/penetration. Use in Semi-tractor harness repairs, heat gun not an option and getting a soldering iron into the restricted spaces safely usually impossible. HTH.

  • @klubstompers
    @klubstompers Před 5 lety +1

    Those work a lot better, and faster with a torch or lighter, and when ever you have to connect a bunch on individual wires, you dont do them at the same place, do each one a inch or so away, so they are not at the same exact point, which will make the connecting area not as bulky. If your worried about the flame in the car, you can put a sheet of aluminum behind the wires, or even some aluminum foil folder over itself a few times, and can just slide it behind the wires. Just like soldering is an art form that you have to learn, so is using these connectors, just need to figure out the right heat range and distance. I twist the two wires together and then fold them into a small ball, that fits right under the solder band. The wire is also sealed with these, so they are water proof, unlike heat-shrink.

  • @christophday847
    @christophday847 Před 3 lety

    If you heat the colored band onto one end first then it is much more manageable as you are not having to hold 4things at once also using a torch lighter of the smaller variety is a great alternative to the heat gun as it is much more localized

  • @LegendMuscle
    @LegendMuscle Před 6 lety +1

    Are you getting interference between any of those connections you have so close together?

  • @russellborrego1689
    @russellborrego1689 Před 6 lety +1

    Wouldn't using the reduction tip on the heat gun, if it has one, work way faster?

  • @therobb5738
    @therobb5738 Před 6 lety +2

    Never used these, I use crimp-on butt connectors most of the time, but I can definitely say those strippers are worth gold. Use then everyday at work, use then at home, and I refuse to use the other cheapo strippers from walmart. Crimp-on barrels may not be the most professional, but they work.

  • @JSW42
    @JSW42 Před 4 lety

    I use a butane torch and the time is under a minute.Of course I use a diffuser to even the heating process. You were correct in using a smaller length f stripped wire.

  • @truthsRsung
    @truthsRsung Před 5 lety

    I have noob topics for you:
    Effects of poor grounds/connections.
    Creating a new good ground.
    Protection of new connections (esp. Amp. Grounds)
    Common causes of system noise.
    Long term effects of pierce testing wires.
    I finished watching while I typed. Good stuff.
    I concur...learn how to soldier correctly first, then decide what corners you think are worth cutting. I holster two....my Wall Trig-R-Heat reliably handles the heavy lifting while a butane pen has its back. Been tempted from time to time to buy a bench unit, but I only perform surgery on my own toys.
    Liquid tape, anyone?
    I can make a connection and soldier in places I cant reinsulate properly.

  • @VencedorGamer
    @VencedorGamer Před 5 lety +1

    I don't need a heat gun for shrink wrap, I use a butane torch lighter, does the job a lot quicker, because it doesn't need time to heat up.

  • @irgendwieanders1
    @irgendwieanders1 Před 6 lety +15

    You also can heat them up with a lighter...

    • @looncraz
      @looncraz Před 6 lety +3

      Yep, a small soldering torch makes this take seconds.

    • @index7787
      @index7787 Před 5 lety

      I've used a bic, it works fine, just don't roast it.

    • @applejacks971
      @applejacks971 Před 5 lety

      @@index7787 bic's don't work in the wind. I got a lil hand torch thing for wiring repairs

    • @jedieclipse383
      @jedieclipse383 Před 5 lety

      Good old bravo 1 charlie

    • @pcicraftsman8472
      @pcicraftsman8472 Před 5 lety

      @@index7787 howbout a zippo? Would that be ok? 🤣 just joking.

  • @dylanhoel1636
    @dylanhoel1636 Před 6 lety +12

    I actually have a soldering iron but not a heat gun. I just use a butane torch.

    • @richardmiddleton5984
      @richardmiddleton5984 Před 4 lety

      Same thing I was thinking. I have a soldering iron, but no heat gun. I use a butane torch, or even a cigarette light, for the heatshrink.

  • @renomacca1967
    @renomacca1967 Před 6 lety +1

    Putting them at different lengths off the centre of both wires

  • @UltraMagnis
    @UltraMagnis Před 6 lety +4

    I think those heat activated solder it's ment for jet lighter not a heat gun. It's way quicker with a jet lighter or small torch 30 secs max

  • @blazeaglory
    @blazeaglory Před rokem

    I use them with a mini heat gun that has two settings up to 900deg F. Sometimes they melt nice and easy while other times it takes forever SB's sometimes the plastic melts away before the tin/solder melts. Just depends on which ones you get I guess but when they work, they work great!

  • @MrScarcejason911
    @MrScarcejason911 Před 6 lety +1

    I just noticed that you use the same soldering iron that I have (and haven't used yet) ... how long have you had it, and what's your opinion(if any about it)..

  • @TheKlickitat
    @TheKlickitat Před 5 lety +1

    could you please do the timed test again but this time adding a drop of flux to the wires first?

  • @tl1024
    @tl1024 Před 6 lety +2

    What you failed to show was this- try getting heat shrink tube on each of that 9 wire bundle with only short lengths exposed out of the outer sheath that holds all nine together. Nothing worse than the heat shrink shrinking while you are soldering (shrunk but not actually covering the wire junction). When space is limited, this will drive you insane!

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC Před 6 lety +1

    These are nice though ive used them in the past and find that they are most useful in confined spaces. The problem is those spaces generally dont lend themselves to the kind of heat and time required to fully melt the solder. In the end the few seconds saved vs solder and heat shrink didnt justify the cost for me.

  • @wadoryujh
    @wadoryujh Před 5 lety +1

    is it a stronger connection though what about a pull test?

  • @joseluisruiz3789
    @joseluisruiz3789 Před 6 lety +2

    Interesting, that's pretty cool but I think I would still stick to my normal soldering and black heat shrink tubing 😅 still a cool idea though.

  • @ThisTall
    @ThisTall Před 6 lety +1

    Soldering is great but these are better then twisting or crimping AND waterproof. And the only way to get a soldered join on really short wires were the heat shrink can’t be moved far enough out of the way while you solder.

  • @damianramey5601
    @damianramey5601 Před 5 lety

    After you started to get a small bundle of connectors, did you ever notice the integrity of the first one or two degrade after heating up and cooling down, heating up and cooling down as you added more connections?

  • @jacksonludwig8560
    @jacksonludwig8560 Před 5 lety

    Using these to splice aftermarket tweeters into a 2009 civic as they are dash mounted all the way forward where the windshield meets the dash. No way I'd be able to get a soldering iron back there, there's barely room for my hands, so this will be interesting. Wish me luck! Thanks for the tips Charity.

  • @Candisa
    @Candisa Před 6 lety +1

    They may be a bit slower to work with on a bench with everything handy, but I bet their faster (and safer!) when you're upside down working under the dashboard.
    However, nothing beats a *good* crimp connection, in reliability, speed, ánd safety. Good crimpers and connectors aren't cheap though.

  • @fernesal
    @fernesal Před 4 lety +1

    Ok. Great on stranded wires. Does it work the same on solid wires?

  • @ALEX-xd7ko
    @ALEX-xd7ko Před 6 lety +28

    Yea twist the wire then slide the connector over 😉😉😂😂😂😂

  • @AsbestosBeard
    @AsbestosBeard Před 4 lety

    thats great stuff, the solder goes on a way lower temperature, its great

  • @drewbush6535
    @drewbush6535 Před 6 lety +1

    They look nice

  • @TheGreasemonkey2824
    @TheGreasemonkey2824 Před 6 lety +1

    Mark i know you just teamed up with teespring but you should check out bunker branding co they specialize in tee shirts for youtubers. Also great vid never whould use those at all but its nice to show people who wondered if they would work

  • @danielmoraes9637
    @danielmoraes9637 Před 5 lety +1

    great job, i Love It, with fire work too?

  • @dutton-j5226
    @dutton-j5226 Před 5 lety

    First off- VERY Good video; Old School(I'm O.S.) Vs.Techy, solder penetration, multi-conductor (which is what I am about to do; PDM60 motorcycle install) etc...etc... So I have been researching several different ways to fab-in some LED strobes. Posi-Lock has some interesting connectors, but I wanted heat shrink peace-of-mind. I found those that you were using that come in the clear plastic box on eBay, but I don't need a huge assortment. SUMMIT RACING has a brand of those same Self-Solder connectors made by NTE Electronics that come in single size bags. BUT my point is that the ones NTE makes has a LOT more solder in them than the ones in that clear box. And in their video you can SEE the solder melt-and-flow pretty quickly; it also APPEARS to make the level of connection you were looking for. N-E-way......THANKS! for the great video from East Texas!

  • @handsofsteal8152
    @handsofsteal8152 Před 6 lety +1

    im thinking those things you crimp wires with (I forgot the name lol) would be good for people who don't have a solder gun or heat gun because you can use pliers or something to squeeze them its not very good or the best connection but its something temporary

  • @adamm2716
    @adamm2716 Před 6 lety +2

    Mark, I used to have 2 13.5 tw5's under my seat in my hotrod, I am changing the seats to captain's chairs. I want to keep atleast one sub but still have a stealth build. could you make me plans for a box/ beauty panel if pictures and measurements were provided?

    • @adamm2716
      @adamm2716 Před 6 lety

      do you not make/sell splash panels plans?

    • @brianhilligoss
      @brianhilligoss Před 6 lety

      Go to his website. He does indeed do custom designs.

    • @therobb5738
      @therobb5738 Před 6 lety

      How do those TW5's work for you? I've wanted a couple for a single cab truck, how well do they handle? Lows, power, space?

  • @kympridham8267
    @kympridham8267 Před 5 lety

    How long did it take to heat up the soldering iron?

  • @kdj69
    @kdj69 Před 3 lety

    Can I ask what size heat shrink tubing have you used for your radio/amp harness wires? Many thanks for your time.