Re-Building The Popular GM 700R4 - Detroit Muscle S2, E23
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- The guys show tips and tricks on how to rebuild, upgrade and bulletproof a GM 700R4 automatic transmission.
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - GM Transmission Overview and Differences
2:15 - GM 700R4 Disassembly
8:35 - Internal Part Teardown
9:20 - Tri-Five Nationals In Bowling Green, KY
12:36 - Switching The 700R4 To 2WD and Reassembly
17:12 - Console and Stereo Upgrades
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Royal Purple: Transmission Fluid, Max ATF, Synthetic, Quart, Each
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TCI Automotive: Automatic Transmission Rebuild Kit, Master Racing, GM, 700R4, Kit
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Classic Industries: 1968 Camaro TH350 TH400 Automatic Console Kit
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Yea guys check out Richard and Trent from Precision Transmissions if you want the ins and outs on how to tear down, rebuild, and modify many a different transmissions. Great channel to learn and watch with alot of in depth info.
They seem to be the best I've seen so far
All I’ve ever seen them do is disassemble various transmissions and complain about how poorly they were previously rebuilt.
@@jamesanderson83 they have maybe 1 or 2 rebuild videos on their channel that are a little old and most of the tear downs are junk yard cores used to rebuild one
@@Firetwister2 lots are customer boxes that they do complain about the parts or the failures. Giving some vague information on what to do to increase HP handling. There is multiple good channels showing builds with upgrades
@@jamesanderson83 I agree, so many people give props to them but there’s no in depth how to info. The transmission bench on the other hand goes into great detail and each step of the build has its own little video in a series of videos for each transmission. He makes it look so simple a fifth grader could do it.
Nice change of pace to show a complete Transmission Rebuild!
Taking pictures of your work while simultaneously videoing a syndicated show…….*chefs kiss
@Nikita Sora💋 I bet you really like me huh?
I've been rebuilding engines and transmissions since I was 12. I am 47 now. Not sure what you did in the pump, but I hope it's a 13 vane. Also, use a TransGo shift kit, which includes a new pressure vale in the pump. And you should use a wide band vs the stock one. Find a way to stack extra clutch disks where you can. And get an Allison Z-Pack clutch kit too. Get new accumulator pistons for it, and make sure to use an old one as well as a new one in the second gear accumulator. Use washers on the bottom of the shaft to stack both pistons till they are level with the plate surface of the trans. Pull the torque converter lock up valve, and add one of the check balls you are not going to replace, in between the two halves of the valve. Your TransGo kit will also tell you where to drill out holes in the plate. Even though the trans kits come with O-Rings for the bolts for the pump, always use some 3M sealant/adhesive on them as well. And use some to help secure the torque converter seal retainer too! For shafts, I always recommend good billet products. Sonnex is also a good source for top quality products.
I would also recommend that you get the ATRA rebuild manual for any trans that you are working on. If you need the manual for the 700R4,/4L60/4L60e, let me know, and I will put it on my google drive and post a link.
I would also like to direct anyone who is planning to rebuild their transmission, to do a search for your particular one here, on Precision Transmission. I've been doing this for a long time, but even I have my heroes! I look up to Richard, and you guys will like him too! czcams.com/users/PrecisionTransmission
Here is Richard's teardown of a 4L60 (Basically the same as a 700R4, and just prior to the 4L60e where the electronics were introduced.) czcams.com/video/_5lRls7UvzQ/video.html
Take care, everyone! o7
I love watching their videos.
I was watching a video by Richard from Precision Transmission just a couple of days ago. The man sure knows his stuff! 👍
If you seen,they left out a part.Left the anti clunk spring which was not put back in.Also toss the 5 black springs in the direct drum in the trash,restrict the clutches from floating
Thanks for the info! I'll be converting a 2001 4L60E into a 2wd unit and mating it behind a 2005 LQ4 6.0. This combo will be getting dropped into my old '68 C10, and I'll want reliability and longevity after the rebuild.
Thank you guys for putting this out there , the irony I was just having this conversation with someone on fb about how bad trans rebuilders have gotten these and the cost of the parts as well , for the most part these things are just intimidating cause if all the pieces but you guys get yourselves a book on whatever transmission you want to do , the books are available booths are available out there and they really aren’t as complicated as they seem . Take your time , take pics of you have too , have a clean and well organized work area and you will be surprised at what can accomplish and if at first you don’t succeed try try again until you do because either way you will learn something .
Agreed! I'm amazed at watching first timers do a job like that and for the most part can get it right vs a so called "pro-shop" who can screw it (and you) the first time they lay hands on your tranny. I am not knocking every shop but the nightmare stories I hear from simple rebuilds all the way up to high horsepower applications is too much for me to digest. I will take the chance doing the work myself.
@@86Chevymontecarlo Well when it comes to shops, it's all about the reputation. They need to be the best one around, and they need to have a warranty on their work. If you don't research the shop thoroughly there's a higher chance you'll have a bad time.
I remember years ago that I had an 1987 Olds Cutlass Supreme and my reverse went out and went to this "JackLeg " repair transmission shop and they just screwed up my transmission and my reverse still wasn't working and now when I think about I could've done it myself ! Oh well you live and you learn...... Thanks for that great video fellas !
High quality video with master level technicians. Good stuff guys keep it up!!
never really understood automatic transmission basic until watching. thanks mate.
Thanks for the info. I plan on adding 700r4 to my skills soon.
The Tri 5 Nationals was a GREAT time!!!! 👍👍👍
Love it guys. Makes me want to go to school for engine and transmission 😭
Great video fellas !
There's a transmission shop that does similar videos on a bunch of different transmissions. They're Precision Transmission, I've been enjoying their content for a year now. Fascinating mechanisms.
They dont do any "how to" video. Its all for entertainment, not instruction.
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP I took mine apart using some videos from them. They’re decent for first timers even if they don’t go step by step like transmission bench does. They do go over what some different types of damage looks like such as water mixed with transmission fluid. Really helpful tbh.
Great show., and very interesting.
That turbo 400 shown is not a Chevrolet bellhousing,it is a Buick,Olds and Pontiac.
Correct BPO
I finally understand why motor guys don’t mess with transmissions
Thanks for the video guys!
I've learned that the 4L60E is similar with the exception of the electronics and the valve body.
I'll be doing a rebuild and 2wd conversion on my 4L60E that's coming out of my 2001 Suburban. This transmission will be getting dropped into my '68 C10 behind a 2005 LQ4 6.0. Of course I'll be installing the heavier duty clutch packs and sun shell. It has a rebuilt 327 and TH400. It's a very dependable combo, but it's limited in performance and driveability. I am upgrading because I want the EFI and the overdrive, plus the deeper first gear.
Kudos to the guys (and gals) that take these things apart and put them back together. I wouldn't have the first damn clue.
I have a 04 gmc envoy and got a problem with the secondary air injection system it’s not blowing air out of it and the pigtail that’s hooked up to it isn’t getting power can you tell me anything
I have a 700r4 trans that lost 3rd and fourth gear. Which rebuild kit would be best to stand up to a carb swapped 5.7 vortec with headers?
Love to see a th400 rebuild
where is the Bonus Tab on there web site for putting it back together.....
700R4s aren't bad, especially when built. However, I wouldn't put it behind a V8 Big Block.
Chevy trucks of the era used TH400 in big blocks. The 700R4 would not last
We never had a truck with a 700R4 make it to 100k miles without having to be rebuilt. Once they were rebuilt they were much stronger.
At 2:23 it's a bloodbath!!!! Does a TH350 overhaul kit look much the same?
My 700r4 slips after short distance. First losing od then when u stop i have no reverse but i can shut off the truck for maybe 1 min and start it back up and i then have reverse but only for a short drive then same thing happens. I can hear a winding noise when i stop and in N but stops when i put it in reverse. Transmission pan and bell housing cover gets really hot to the touch. Cant hold your fingers on them very long/2 sec.s hot. Im a poor man trying to figure this out because this is the only ride i got. All help Appreciated asap.
Back in the 60s the guys in the shop usta do this right there in our shop and reinstall the transmission in the customers car. Nowadays? They just remove the problem trans ship it off to a reman shop and install a reman unit in the customer’s car. Dumbing down………
Quick question where would i connect the vacuum line from the torque converter lockup switch on my carburetor?
That's like asking someone how long this piece of string is LOL.
That said probably doesn't matter because as long as there's vacuum at cruise the switch will know when to apply it ie. 4th and constant light throttle. All it needs is vacuum even if it is an auxilliary port on the brake booster fitting on the intake or on the carb. Ported or unported again probably doesn't matter. If it's ported and there's no vac at idle the tranny isn't in 4th.
I can't be sure but I think what I said is about right. If I'm wrong someone will tell me you can be assured of that!
TH 700 R4!
Technically the powerglide wasnt the first mass produced automatic transmission. It was actually a Hydra-matic transmission and it was also a 4 speed. 1 reverse, 3 underdrives, and 1 direct drive, no overdrive. This transmission along with the Cadillac V8 was used in tanks in WW2
More info please?
Isn't the output cover on the transfer case the same one that goes on the end of the 2wd transmission case ??
The transfer case adapter bolts to the back of a 4wd or 2wd case. But a 2wd output shaft is longer. So to swap a 2wd transmission to 4wd you just need to change the output shaft
Your chyron at 1:33 saying the 700 was available from '82-'92 is slightly incorrect. The 93-95 F-body with the 3.4L V6 had a 700-R4.
700R4 - 4l60s are really good trans . however not behind almost any V8 in a stock form .
Yeah, a new beast shell is needed in the rebuild, as well as new clutches, and the 2 4 servo replaced for a Vette version.
Um I have nearly 400 000km on my stock never pulled or rebuilt 4l60e in my 98 Z71 Silverado and it pulls and hauls all the time trans has never bin rebuilt. Now my 96 Chevy 6.5 diesel 1500 4x4 has 506 000 km and it's on its fourth 4l80e 🤷
I went thru 2 4L60e's within 115k miles on my stock 09 1500. (4.8) The thing gets too damn hot while hauling/towing anything. I think that trans belongs in the old blazers/trailblazers. Moving a full-size/crewcab truck like a silverado/sierra without a aux trans cooler is a ticking time bomb lol 6L80e was a much needed upgrade in 2009+ paired to the 5.3.
@@frenchfrysz6695 Don't know what you were doing wrong I've had up to 14k behind my 98 Z71 short trips with that weight but it's done some long distance heavy hauls and yet this original 1998 4l60e is still going strong I have a high torque 5.7 vortec full 3" dual exhaust and no cats and slightly oversized tires. Now I do alot of maintenance to my trucks fluid change's when the light turns green I dont stomp on it I let the truck warm up extra long in the winter time then drive slow for first little while I even let my truck warm up to operating Temp in the summer months and after long trips I let it idle for five minutes before shutting it off. I guess I don't know what I'm doing Ive taken 4l60e's to half a million km not sure what that is in miles but he'll I've owned alot of gm truck's with 4l60e transmissions and I've had great luck. I think alot of bad rap comes from bad owners that thrash on there trucks don't perform regular maintenance and BAD SHOPS REBUILDING SAID 4L60E's that don't know what there doing or there hacks or both! GM transmission rebuilding has bin something I want to get into cause I'm sure within the next 100k my well used 4l60e will need a rebuild and I want to be the one that does it so I know that it'll be done right same goes for my junk 4l80 behind my 6.5 turbo diesel every redneck on the planet talks about how great the 4l80e is yet my 6.5 eats them up for breakfast time for me to start rebuilding my own transmissions.
@@taylorh3930 I hear you lol i wasn't really gentle with it honestly. Id get stuck in mud/snow a couple times a year, and banging the rev limiter to get out, got it hot. But just towing a trailer with 2 riding lawn mowers (with 200lbs guys in the cab), or a boat would spike the trans temps on the road. 210-220°F. Both times it ate the rear planetary gears.
It had the torque management in place and everything lol clutches were still "like new" I was pretty much at the fluid/filter service intervals when they failed. Maybe the shop I had didn't do things to the book for the rebuild, I dont know. I didnt do burnouts or anything like that, the TQ management wont let you haha. I did go through alot of temerature intervals with that truck. 0°F+/- to 90°F. I loved the reliability of the engine though. The rest of the truck was plagued with electrical and suspension issues. Nickel and dime me to death ugh.
Wonder where a guy gets a transmission stand like that
I think i like ford's automatic transmissions more... they just seem better thought out ... the c4 c6 that is... just seems strange to me loading it in to the case like that.. im sure its fine though .. good job guys .. like that console too.. light kit sold separately gees for that price they can't throw it in?
Good video, but it is more of a stock rebuild, it won't hold up to anything over 400 HP the way they built it
Big shout out the all the CAR HEADS who showed up💪
What's the name of the special puller used in this video at the 6:24 ?
You don't need that. There are usually 2 threaded pump bolt holes to put 2 bolts in and push the pump out. Or just put a big flat blade screwdriver between the back of the pump and reverse drum and pry it up
Damn where tf were y'all 15 years ago now when I did this? Same with the electric version of this transmission the legendary 4L60E/4L65E, 4L80E..
Edit: You guys should also do a transmission video on the difference between a 2WD trans vs 4WD transmission and how to convert or swap them around. I learned this myself several years ago doing one for my buddies S10 and he couldn't find a 2WD anywhere.
That's the issue that I've ran into in my area. The 4wd transmission far outnumber the 2wd units. There are several 4wd versions but hardly any 2wd versions, and when one does become available it's already spoken for, no matter what their condition is.
Not sure if anyone reads these. I have a 1983 700r4 and I’m trying to buy a torque converter. The books all say it’s 27 spline but I count 30. I know it’s been rebuilt at least once. Is this possible?
27 spline is the early input shaft.
I have an 83 also. Same thing for me. Website’s all say it’s 27 but mines a 30 spline. I bought a Hayes 3/4 race converter and the numbers said it was for a 30 spline but after trying to put it on the trans I took my scope and looked inside it was a 27.
Ended up buying a Boss Hogg Street Bandit
I see alot of people trying to rebuild their own transmissions now.
"Little intimidating..." Understatement of the year lol... Just looking at it gives me a nosebleed hahaha... Doing and LSx engine looks really easy in comparison probably because I have seen it so often.
700-4R
dude has an iphone 5! wow
I can rebuild manuals all day. Wontvtouch automatics. Did that once and I had an "incident". Leave that to more competent individuals.
My challenge a Ford double over head cam turbo with 2200 bhp at the wheel do you have the bolls Australian made and built barra the Australian killer motor of all American have lol
Best way to fix a 700r4 is to go to a junkyard and replace it with a 4l80e.
The issue with the 4l80 is the TERRIBLE gear ratios, And it takes more HP to turn it.
@@michaelspizzirri4079 I disagree. When I put a 4l80 in my diesel suburban, it felt like I gained 50 hp and 100ft lbs torque. it was unbelievable. Probably because the 4l80e could survive at 100psi and the 700r4 needs 200psi to keep it alive.
@@CrankAddict You must have good rear end gear ratios because a 700r4 has a 3.06:1 first gear ratio, while the 4l80 has a 2.48:1 first gear. I can't see how you felt a power increase, but I haven't been in your truck so I could be wrong
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Its German. 🇺🇸 MADE IN CJINA
@@SteveXNYC ?
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The aod from GM😅
nice video but you can do without the music
Ive never seen Precision Transmissions need or use any of these special tools.
Do u have online cources ?? i want to learn with u guys
الفديو قديم يا عبدالرحمن. لكن اذا تبي تتعلم القيور فيه قناة اسمها percision transmission و فيه كذا وحدة لكن هذي احسنهم
no achmed, you can't fly a transmission
@@sergiboyakjon277 Dude dont kill a dream
I do
@@SteveXNYC Nice channel you have there
Grandfather of PNNNNNN trans... 😁
Typical 0815 overhaul !!!!
Yu-ins know that they is tAken everything that was a car. Hee-haw.
He said check balls
700 is good for nothing. Replace it with at least a 4l65e.
Same trans...
@@sicsam1 700r4 is mechanical, has 4 pinon planetaries, less clutches than 4l65e, one piece case, and a prone to cracking 4 bolt tailshaft housing. 4l65e has an electronic valve body, 5 pinon planetaries, 6 bolt tailshaft, and a stiffer 2 piece case.
700r4 is the weakest trans I would get the 480le
That won't last
They never do, but is a good street unit
Kinda half a$$ rebuild video guys. I expected more from Power Nation. You didn't even mention the 2004r trans.
700r4 worst transmission ever made. Throw it away and use the 400
That transmission is old. Since 1985. Plus no cars today use it. MADE IN CHINA #1.