McLeod is ranked as the 2nd fastest skater in the NHL. I don’t know if I like the trade for Savoie but our bottom 6 will be very fast and could be quite good. Plus he’s 6’3” so we have even more size on the team. The prospect we got in the trade is also further along.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 did you make this up as an actual non sabres fan?? This is one of the best..Sabres fans are flooding the boards with Adams memes and what not...but this was my favorite. Mad clever. Especially if you did it from a different fan base 😂 Got the league worried about our wellfare😂😂😂
Die hard Oiler fan here, another thing about Clouder is he's VERY GOOD defensively! He's Nuggy light but MUCH faster. I was sad to see him go honestly!
The hot takes from the fanbase are laughable. "Make a trade, Kevin!!!" Kevin makes trade. "RREEeeeeee, not that trade!" The Sabres STILL have a very good prospect pool without Savoie, and they've added some help for the immediate future rather than waiting on Savoie. Savoie will probably be a good player IF he stays healthy, but Adams has stuck with his offseason plan and appears to have done a good job with it so far (and they have 10 picks in next year's draft, so the pool will still be very full). Lighten up, folks.
We got robbed and this was the worst trade I’ve ever seen. This guy is the only one I’ve seen say anything positive about the trade. It almost felt like he was trolling when he said it with a smirk. Like it’s a joke.
This season's overriding priority is making the playoffs, not developing Savoie or any other prospect. We've still got a boatload of forward prospects, some arguably better than Savoie, and fill the 3C slot that would have been occupied by (shudder!) Peyton Krebs.
Savoie did NOTHING SPECIAL in his time with the big boys. He was redundant to what we already have. He'll probably be a Donald Audette when he finally gets to the NHL full-time. We needed a big 3rd line center who gets to come back home (MIssisauga). This is a good move.
@kodyknight273 Coming from a Canucks fan, you guys have a shot at being a playoff team next year if some of your top guys return to form and Luukkonen continues his good play in net. The additions of Zucker, Malenstyn, McLeod, Lafferty and Aube-Kubel, provide some good role players. They make the Sabres tougher to play against, and you guys have one of the best up n coming bluelines in the league.
Wow Savoie is a beauty and could play with McDavid out the gate with Hyman.. McLeod though fast really is soft and when it comes to Brothers you always want the Alpha even though in this case the alpha is up on serious charges
McLeod plays small for his size. Doesn't like to go into the corners or hard areas. Won't drive the net enough considering his speed. Doesn't have much finish. Good for 10-12 goals a year. Is Fast, fairly good in the faceoff dot against lower competition. Is a decent penalty killer but pretty much lost is job on the PK as the season went on. But what sealed his fate was the playoffs. Every oiler found another gear and ground it out, except for him. In 56 playoff games he has 7 goals and is -13 and 49% in the dot. And this year was just more of the same, he looking like he was just along for the ride. He's turning 25 this summer and this is his peak. 4th line center on a good team, 3rd line center and PKer on a weak team.
LOVE what Adams has done with the bottom 6 forward group this summer! Love the 3rd and 4th lines of..... Zucker. Macleod Greenway- 3rd Malenstyn. Lafferty Aube -Kubel Krebs and Rousek spare forward. Macleod is a good on the PK and good on face offs- 50% win rate ! Plus hes one of the fastest skaters in the NHL ! Have to give something to get something . I watched Tullio when he was in Oshawa and he was a liitle ball of hate , reminds me of Dale Hunter or Claude Lemieux. He will take on anybody, he went after 6'6 Kevin Bahl when he was in Ottawa. Remember Savoie will need at least 2 yrs in the AHL and he better bulk or he will get injured AGAIN. Great move Kevyn! Thanks for the video!
Adding another solid defender, UPL is going to become a superstar. The bottom six is loading up with strong defensive players who can skate. Wait and see but I don’t mind the move at all…
Same thing Oilers thought but just didn’t materialize. Only 1 reliable aspect in McLouds game... he’s good at winning face offs. That’s it. He’s just not smart enough to read developing plays & find open ice to score. He was a healthy scratch in some playoff games so he won’t move Buffalo one inch closer to a cup.
@@gregsgoogle2947 Savoie was a healthy scratch in the AHL playoffs last season, just wasn’t ready for the pro game and wasn’t expected to dress for Buffalo this season. I see McLeod dressed in all 7 games of the Stanley Cup Finals and had 3 goals, same as McDavid…
@@gregsgoogle2947 Bruh... Cup? The last time we made the playoffs was in 2011. This team would be considered insanely improved to get a wild card spot. Savoie is well known as the 3rd best Sabres prospect in a position they have plenty in. There is need for an NHL player. Not an AHL player when making the playoffs is the goal. This would be like in the decade of darkness in Edmonton. We have plenty of prospects
Agree , the team is finally looking like a hockey club with balance and chemistry and fans are whining - go figure. Not an overpayment as Sabres are still deep in prospects and Savoie won't be missed. All these changes aren't on Adams it's on Lindy and he's doing what we brought him here to do, to bring pride back to Buffalo Sabres hockey.
@@Ween1776 Understand the frustration after 13 yrs. and no playoffs but this team now will be able to roll 4 lines consistently where last yr it was 2 lines and this will be a handful for teams to defend against.
@steveb1962 dgmw I agree. I really liked Savoie. Adams had to do something. There's to many young high-end prospects around the same age. I would've rather they traded another guy or 2 but I'm OK with this
@@Ween1776 Liked Savoie also but think Helenius will be ready before him and as you say there was too many and still is so maybe they aren't finished making moves
You must not follow Savoie lol. And i'm a diehard Sabres fan, only supported Sabres for 20 years. Never complained about anything the whole time - but Kevyn Adams lost any faith I had in him with this one. I would've rather had him trade Benson and Krebs both than Savoie. I'm done defending KA after doing so the entire time.
Maybe this is all part of a larger deal for Mitch Marner?? Buffalo still has $13 million in salary cap to spend & not many teams have cap space to sign a Marner deal. Toronto is going to want some NHL ready players included in any Marner trade. Maybe McLoud is just one piece of what it takes to bring Mitch Marner to Buffalo.
I love this trade. They got exactly what they were lacking. Savoie is a good young player but injury prone and small. McLeod is a proven nhl player, fast as wind and very welcomed for those lower lines.
LOL. Fanbase has genuinely been conditioned to accept this trash. You got fleeced in every sense of the word. Worst trade in the NHL in the last 3 years without a doubt. McLeod would’ve been traded for a bag of chips in 2 months and you gave up a top 10 pick for him. Beyond stupid. Doesn’t even matter what the rest of the farm system looks like, the GM clearly didn’t shop around at all. There’s absolutely no chance in hell that’s the best return they could’ve gotten. Pure incompetence in every sense of the word.
McLoud has proven he can’t hold a 3rd line job after trying for 3yrs. If that’s what you think a proven NHL player is then knock yourself out. He’s actually a 4th line player making $2.1 mil a year. Enjoy paying that. He was a salary dump player that was going to be waived in hopes he’d get claimed if he couldn’t be traded. Buffalo could have got him for nothing if they wanted to.
as an Oilers fan.... I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!YAASSSSSSSSS TAKE THIS NON SCORING, NON PUCK BATTLE WINNING, NON DOING ANYTHING SOFT STICK OF BUTTER BUFFALO BUTTER STICK MCLEOD WOOO HOOOOOO !!!!!!!!! ONLY OILERS FANS KNOW THE PAIN OF WATCHING MCLEOD!!!!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🤠🤠🤠
Savoie has 0 NHL experience and is a small prospect that Buffalo is stacked with. All the talk has been about hoarding prospects. Now they make a mild move and it's all awful again. I know you guys wanted another Hall signing to give the concept of excitement, but a team with all the current Panthers, Jack and Skinner lost a record tying 18 games in a row with an 80 mil cap hit that year. People will take anything Adams does and spin it into a negative. He has not been GM for relatively that long. I know you all loved Darcy and how much he would do on July 1 with Tom telling him not to spend over the cap floor.
@@Buffalosabskis We should've kept him another year. We have like $30mil+ in cap space, and had no replacement for him. He was fine at 9 mil another year, if we had nothing lined up better than him.
@@Buffalosabskis They could've overpaid a top 6 forward even without the buyout. If they didn't have a plan in place to replace him, they shouldn't have done it this year. They had been talking to players and teams before they announced the buyout. They should not have done it. He was killing it with Tage and Tuch. There was zero good reasons to not wait another year.
@@ProtagonisTeneT The Sabres have 5 exact players like him. People are acting like this trade is absurd. I didn't hear anyone discussing how Savoie would be a game changer a few years down the road for the Sabres. All you heard was "Adams has so many prospects under 6 foot". McLeod is a 3rd line center on the Sabres. People also act like they love every option the Sabres have without him. Everyone just looks for excuses to complain. I hate to break it to everyone, but signing Stamkos for 4.5 mil for him to come to his dream town, trading the 14th for an amazing gritty NHL plus 30 center that is 6 foot 5 and 230lbs and getting Skinner to waive his no trade for a one on one trade with a younger cheaper 40 goal scorer was not going to happen. Even then people would be crying about Adams
He couldn't beat a 18 year old for a spot on the Sabres last year. I'm sure there's a 17 year old on the Oilers he can replace. You're right, Sabres got fleeced! He should definitely help with the Oilers problems on defense and in net. Oh wait, he's not a defenseman or goaltender. Well, he probably can be switched to D and outplay Nurse. There's that.
as an Oilers fan I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!YAASSSSSSSSS BUFFALO TAKE THIS NON SCORING, NON PUCK BATTLE WINNING, NON DOING ANYTHING SOFT STICK OF BUTTER BUFFALO BUTTER STICK MCLEOD WOOO HOOOOOO !!!!!!!!! ONLY OILERS FANS KNOW THE PAIN OF WATCHING MCLEOD!!!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🤠🤠🤠
@@LateCloserhe was way better than Benson. Even as line mates. The only reason he didn't beat him is awful coaching decisions. He played good everywhere every level
We did ..I feel like this is my fault cuz I was just bragging to my boy how if we did go all in on our young team that we have a guy that was linemates with Benson that steady gets 90 plus..I guarantee Oilers can put him in the NHL and he will play great for them. Have him learn from the other guy you fleeced from us when you guys won the lottery and got the Lethal McDavid. I hate saying this but we deserved that karma for blatantly cheering on national TV when our team would lose...IDC if tanking is the goal..gotta keep It somewhat classy and discreet. Congratulations on an awesome player brotha. Sabres fans dont deserve this one either if they're gonna be so quick to cast him away when all they know about him is what they heard on 550AM. Not all fans are like that here! But they are multiplying...
Bro shut up u don’t trade away a guy with the potential to be a 90 point number once center for a number three center. Yeah he makes us better now but this move and winning us a cup so who cares
He's not that good. Otherwise he'll have more accomplishment then a dominating playoff as a D+2. His ceiling is closer to top line left winger, then franchise center. A better version of JJ Peterka. And even then, that's his celling. For all we know he could be Joel Armia.
@@JamesR1986 his ceiling is far higher than the player we just received. Everyone’s talking about how we need a third line center. Why? Will this move help us win a cup ? No . We way over payed.
Anyone who saw me shitting on fans in our Sabres fan base...this here @evanrichter3893 is an actual fan that uses logic and not what they've heard on Schoop and the Bulldog...
@@JamesR1986where are you getting this nonsense..I appreciate it cuz it seems like its original and not something you heard..so right there..hell yeah.. but that is an insane amount of moving parts to say well he's only gonna be a better JJ..my bad if I'm coming off like I'm ripping on you...I just honestly would like to know where you came up with that..I know if you did your own observation and scouting it can get tedious but if you can hit me with the cliff notes or something
I'm not a whiny Sabres naysayer, i keep positive. But I saw this... That's fine, I'll just leave my lifetime role as a Sabres fan and watch Oilers instead. They already became the only other team I planned to watch after the playoffs this year. One of only 2 players they could piss me off by trading. Most certainly no assets left to get a top 6 F now lol. Fail of a trade, good lord. See you in hell Kevyn Adams.
Have fun. Did you like Edmonton in the decade of darkness? Picking a team is not having a team. Then you are just like Snoop Dogg with last years cup winner as his team every October
@@Buffalosabskis I've been ONLY a Sabres fan for the full 20 years I've watched hockey. I"ve supported them and only spoke optimistically, defended them and defended Adams up until this. What do you call the 10+ years of nothing we've had in Buffalo? Something worse than "Decade of Darkness" - so what? Every year I choose a team to follow in the playoffs, but I've never fallen in love with one of them like I did with the Oilers this year. They are also FUN to watch. So now I have two teams. It would've been smarter to bring up Savoie and play him this year rather than make this trade, ffs. They should've traded Benson and/or Krebs and pick(s) for a top 6 player. That's what we lost. We lost 2 top 6 players for a collection of 4th liners and 1-2 3rd liners. I don't have faith Krebs or Benson will be top 6 material this year or next year. Savoie would've been our (very near) future. This trade makes us worse, outside this single year. You think we're gonna win the cup this year? No. This was a massive failure of a move. Buying out Skinner without a replacement for our top line was a bad move. Peterka belongs on the 2nd line. I love what we did for the bottom 6, which has nothing to do with either of these terrible moves. But being "tougher to play against" without scoring more goals isn't going to mean much. I can't defend this anymore. I've been doing it since our Presidents trophy team disbanded and I can't anymore. So now I'll go for my doses of pain watching Buffalo and get my fun watching the Oilers. At least I can watch Sabres players I love win Cups somewhere.
@@gootvansquid They tried to make deals they just didn't have any. They wanted to do more trades, but no bites. I also would not want them signing Stamkos for 11 mil to get him to come here.That would be Hall all over again. This team getting swept in the first round would be huge for the organization. Also the last time Edmonton went to the finals the next decade did not go well. Not saying that will happen, but things come up
@@Buffalosabskis I know. And I would rather have a team built on prospects and hard-working guys than overpaid free agents who don't want to be here. I have no doubt the Oilers are going to be a very fun team to watch this coming season. I'm excited to see what Skinner can pull off there. Was very sad to see him go. I really think we should've waited another year to buy him out. Skinner-Thompson-Tuch was a great line. With no one to replace him, our top 6 got worse while our bottom 6 got better. I do love the look of our bottom 6 now (I loved it before this McLeod trade. I don't think it was necessary at all)
Ryan's soft, he was a healthy scratch in some of those playoff games because of it. Thanks for the incompetance of your GM Buffalo.... we appreciate it - Oiltown. Oh and this guy 😆
as an Oilers fan I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!YAASSSSSSSSS BUFFALO TAKE THIS NON SCORING, NON PUCK BATTLE WINNING, NON DOING ANYTHING SOFT STICK OF BUTTER BUFFALO BUTTER STICK MCLEOD WOOO HOOOOOO !!!!!!!!! ONLY OILERS FANS KNOW THE PAIN OF WATCHING MCLEOD!!!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🤠🤠🤠
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos That bad huh. 🤦♂️ As a Sabres fan I’ll cling to the fact McLeod’s analytics chart looks very good. And congrats on your Stanley Cup next year. O’Reilly, Eichel, and Reinhart got one after leaving Buffalo. I’ve got money on Skinner being next.
@@grumpyscott17 Or it could be like 06 and both Florida and Edmonton miss and the Oilers go a decade with no playoffs. It does happen. Im not saying it will. Just pointing out other long playoff droughts. He is an upgrade to what the Sabres have. Edmonton does not seem to get that the Sabres do not need a guy that is 3 years away from the NHL and played awful in the AHL playoffs.
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos Hi! Many Sabres fans were rooting for the Oilers in the finals. The Oilers have had some hard years in the past and Sabres fans are genuinely empathetic towards Edmonton. I hope you're not representative of your average Oiler fan. You sir: Are rude, plain ol' mean, arrogant and an all around dumb donkey. Hey!............Are you from Toronto?
Looks like adams wants to be fired before the season starts. WhO in their right mind would buy season tickets with their hard earned moneyfor this starting roster on the ice. Only diehard fools. Another long non playoff season coming up.
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All the sabres fans on here crying about trading Savoie are the ones who have been crying since they didn't make the playoffs to trade a top prospect for a 3rd line center.
He’s not a 3rd line center though. Only on a non playoff team is McLoud a 3rd line center.... maybe. On Edmonton he’s a 4th line center sometimes or a healthy scratch. He’s not worth 2.1mil a year that’s for damn sure.
A top prospect. "A" top prospect. Not THE top prospect. Not f*cking Savoie. For a 50% faceoff non-point producer who should be a 4th liner. I was fine with giving Lafferty the 3c position. Should've traded Benson.
@gootvansquid Savoie isn't the Sabs top prospect. Kulich is way ahead of him and so is Benson who they trusted to keep up the whole year last year. I'm not saying I love trading Savoie but he's 2 years out at least. They need bottom 6 help now. This also puts Krebs in a better position to play on the wing with a decent 3rd center. Ntm Savoie isn't nearly as big as Noah Ostlund, JK, Wahlberg, Rosen or the Russians. The sabs literally have to many prospects at this point. They need to make the playoffs now. Savoie even tho I really like him isn't getting to the playoffs any sooner
If you’re Tage Thompson you have to be begging for a trade at this point. Oilers should have hung on to Jack Campbell. Looking like we could have traded him for Thompson 😂.
And? I would've traded Benson and Krebs over Savoie. Would you say that if Oilers traded McDavid as a rookie for a 3rd/4th line center and 4 random AHL guys? No... Also it's "two" forwards.
You got to be off the ice to think you benefit in ANYWAY from this trade. I don’t mean the ice inside the rink either. Only a druggie would ever think this is a good trade.
McLeod is ranked as the 2nd fastest skater in the NHL. I don’t know if I like the trade for Savoie but our bottom 6 will be very fast and could be quite good. Plus he’s 6’3” so we have even more size on the team. The prospect we got in the trade is also further along.
Fast but there will be times he will make fans frustrated. However I believe he will get better.
We need to wait and see how all these players play under Lindy’s system.
he doesn’t finish checks and doesn’t get involved in battles he just kind of floats
McLeod does not like the physical stuff and avoids it like the plague.
He’s ranked 97th percentile for defense, which the Sabres need immediately.
Slight overpay ?!? Blink twice if Kevin’s holding you hostage.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 did you make this up as an actual non sabres fan?? This is one of the best..Sabres fans are flooding the boards with Adams memes and what not...but this was my favorite. Mad clever. Especially if you did it from a different fan base 😂 Got the league worried about our wellfare😂😂😂
Die hard Oiler fan here, another thing about Clouder is he's VERY GOOD defensively! He's Nuggy light but MUCH faster. I was sad to see him go honestly!
The hot takes from the fanbase are laughable. "Make a trade, Kevin!!!" Kevin makes trade. "RREEeeeeee, not that trade!" The Sabres STILL have a very good prospect pool without Savoie, and they've added some help for the immediate future rather than waiting on Savoie. Savoie will probably be a good player IF he stays healthy, but Adams has stuck with his offseason plan and appears to have done a good job with it so far (and they have 10 picks in next year's draft, so the pool will still be very full). Lighten up, folks.
You are braindead if you defend this move. 1 million percent.
We got robbed and this was the worst trade I’ve ever seen. This guy is the only one I’ve seen say anything positive about the trade. It almost felt like he was trolling when he said it with a smirk. Like it’s a joke.
This season's overriding priority is making the playoffs, not developing Savoie or any other prospect.
We've still got a boatload of forward prospects, some arguably better than Savoie, and fill the 3C slot that would have been occupied by (shudder!) Peyton Krebs.
Adams burning the team down before he geta fired. Mcleod is ass
Sad to say but I kind of agree Kevin adama is just Ww2 scape goat at this low point of his pathetic tenure as General Manager
Why do I even read these comments???😩
Savoie did NOTHING SPECIAL in his time with the big boys. He was redundant to what we already have. He'll probably be a Donald Audette when he finally gets to the NHL full-time. We needed a big 3rd line center who gets to come back home (MIssisauga). This is a good move.
Last I checked he’s only played one game with “the big boys.” Hard to do anything special with just one game
You say that and his move to Edmonton watch he might end up Leading the League in goals this year F*** u K Adams 🖕🖕
Please give this a listen - Why the Sabres traded Matt Savoie for Ryan McLeod
The Buffalo News
Playoff possibility coming. from a Calgary fan. New Coach with experience.
“Slight overpay”? We got flipping ripped. Total desperation move trying to save Adams job. F you, Adams.
Very deep at center, not many roster spots in the next few years. I like it
Which one can win a face-off? We loaded at wingers who play center...shit which one plays their D role? Tfoh
So what's next for KA? Will he sign Carter Hart now? lol
"Massive" lmao
@kodyknight273
Coming from a Canucks fan, you guys have a shot at being a playoff team next year if some of your top guys return to form and Luukkonen continues his good play in net. The additions of Zucker, Malenstyn, McLeod, Lafferty and Aube-Kubel, provide some good role players. They make the Sabres tougher to play against, and you guys have one of the best up n coming bluelines in the league.
Wow Savoie is a beauty and could play with McDavid out the gate with Hyman.. McLeod though fast really is soft and when it comes to Brothers you always want the Alpha even though in this case the alpha is up on serious charges
McLeod plays small for his size. Doesn't like to go into the corners or hard areas. Won't drive the net enough considering his speed. Doesn't have much finish. Good for 10-12 goals a year.
Is Fast, fairly good in the faceoff dot against lower competition. Is a decent penalty killer but pretty much lost is job on the PK as the season went on. But what sealed his fate was the playoffs. Every oiler found another gear and ground it out, except for him. In 56 playoff games he has 7 goals and is -13 and 49% in the dot. And this year was just more of the same, he looking like he was just along for the ride.
He's turning 25 this summer and this is his peak. 4th line center on a good team, 3rd line center and PKer on a weak team.
if you are prepared to throw away prospects, make sure the entire league knows it and let THEM come to YOU for offers..
That would mean the Sabres have some level of competence which is complete fantasy.
Pretty sure this deal was discussed at the draft, a place where every gm can talk to each other….
LOVE what Adams has done with the bottom 6 forward group this summer! Love the 3rd and 4th lines of.....
Zucker. Macleod Greenway- 3rd
Malenstyn. Lafferty Aube -Kubel
Krebs and Rousek spare forward.
Macleod is a good on the PK and good on face offs- 50% win rate ! Plus hes one of the fastest skaters in the NHL !
Have to give something to get something . I watched Tullio when he was in Oshawa and he was a liitle ball of hate , reminds me of Dale Hunter or Claude Lemieux. He will take on anybody, he went after 6'6 Kevin Bahl when he was in Ottawa.
Remember Savoie will need at least 2 yrs in the AHL and he better bulk or he will get injured AGAIN. Great move Kevyn! Thanks for the video!
"doing something is better than doing nothing" is the most knee jerk and regrettable take you can have
Adding another solid defender, UPL is going to become a superstar. The bottom six is loading up with strong defensive players who can skate. Wait and see but I don’t mind the move at all…
Same thing Oilers thought but just didn’t materialize. Only 1 reliable aspect in McLouds game... he’s good at winning face offs. That’s it. He’s just not smart enough to read developing plays & find open ice to score. He was a healthy scratch in some playoff games so he won’t move Buffalo one inch closer to a cup.
@@gregsgoogle2947 Savoie was a healthy scratch in the AHL playoffs last season, just wasn’t ready for the pro game and wasn’t expected to dress for Buffalo this season. I see McLeod dressed in all 7 games of the Stanley Cup Finals and had 3 goals, same as McDavid…
@@gregsgoogle2947 Bruh... Cup? The last time we made the playoffs was in 2011. This team would be considered insanely improved to get a wild card spot. Savoie is well known as the 3rd best Sabres prospect in a position they have plenty in. There is need for an NHL player. Not an AHL player when making the playoffs is the goal. This would be like in the decade of darkness in Edmonton. We have plenty of prospects
Agree , the team is finally looking like a hockey club with balance and chemistry and fans are whining - go figure. Not an overpayment as Sabres are still deep in prospects and Savoie won't be missed. All these changes aren't on Adams it's on Lindy and he's doing what we brought him here to do, to bring pride back to Buffalo Sabres hockey.
Exactly. These same sabres fans were crying for exactly what they just did
@@Ween1776 Understand the frustration after 13 yrs. and no playoffs but this team now will be able to roll 4 lines consistently where last yr it was 2 lines and this will be a handful for teams to defend against.
@steveb1962 dgmw I agree. I really liked Savoie. Adams had to do something. There's to many young high-end prospects around the same age. I would've rather they traded another guy or 2 but I'm OK with this
@@Ween1776 Liked Savoie also but think Helenius will be ready before him and as you say there was too many and still is so maybe they aren't finished making moves
You must not follow Savoie lol. And i'm a diehard Sabres fan, only supported Sabres for 20 years. Never complained about anything the whole time - but Kevyn Adams lost any faith I had in him with this one. I would've rather had him trade Benson and Krebs both than Savoie. I'm done defending KA after doing so the entire time.
Middlestat. 😢. I still don’t like that move.
GMKA got fleeced
Maybe this is all part of a larger deal for Mitch Marner?? Buffalo still has $13 million in salary cap to spend & not many teams have cap space to sign a Marner deal. Toronto is going to want some NHL ready players included in any Marner trade. Maybe McLoud is just one piece of what it takes to bring Mitch Marner to Buffalo.
I love this trade. They got exactly what they were lacking. Savoie is a good young player but injury prone and small. McLeod is a proven nhl player, fast as wind and very welcomed for those lower lines.
LOL. Fanbase has genuinely been conditioned to accept this trash.
You got fleeced in every sense of the word. Worst trade in the NHL in the last 3 years without a doubt. McLeod would’ve been traded for a bag of chips in 2 months and you gave up a top 10 pick for him. Beyond stupid.
Doesn’t even matter what the rest of the farm system looks like, the GM clearly didn’t shop around at all. There’s absolutely no chance in hell that’s the best return they could’ve gotten. Pure incompetence in every sense of the word.
McLoud has proven he can’t hold a 3rd line job after trying for 3yrs. If that’s what you think a proven NHL player is then knock yourself out. He’s actually a 4th line player making $2.1 mil a year. Enjoy paying that. He was a salary dump player that was going to be waived in hopes he’d get claimed if he couldn’t be traded. Buffalo could have got him for nothing if they wanted to.
Thank you buffalo sabres!
as an Oilers fan.... I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!YAASSSSSSSSS TAKE THIS NON SCORING, NON PUCK BATTLE WINNING, NON DOING ANYTHING SOFT STICK OF BUTTER BUFFALO BUTTER STICK MCLEOD WOOO HOOOOOO !!!!!!!!! ONLY OILERS FANS KNOW THE PAIN OF WATCHING MCLEOD!!!!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🤠🤠🤠
Trade the whole team at this point
I like it
Savoie has 0 NHL experience and is a small prospect that Buffalo is stacked with. All the talk has been about hoarding prospects. Now they make a mild move and it's all awful again. I know you guys wanted another Hall signing to give the concept of excitement, but a team with all the current Panthers, Jack and Skinner lost a record tying 18 games in a row with an 80 mil cap hit that year. People will take anything Adams does and spin it into a negative. He has not been GM for relatively that long. I know you all loved Darcy and how much he would do on July 1 with Tom telling him not to spend over the cap floor.
Thank you Buffalo Jeff Jackson is killing it thank you for Skinner thank you for Savoie.
You would not want Skinner at 9 mil a year. If he could have made 5 in Buffalo that would be great, but it was not an option
@@Buffalosabskis We should've kept him another year. We have like $30mil+ in cap space, and had no replacement for him. He was fine at 9 mil another year, if we had nothing lined up better than him.
You're welcome to them. You'll love Skinner. He's a great two way player and he absolutely kills it on the power play.
@@gootvansquid They attempted to do things with the $30 mil
@@Buffalosabskis They could've overpaid a top 6 forward even without the buyout. If they didn't have a plan in place to replace him, they shouldn't have done it this year. They had been talking to players and teams before they announced the buyout. They should not have done it. He was killing it with Tage and Tuch. There was zero good reasons to not wait another year.
You were wrong in the first 30 seconds. Ryan McLeod is not a 3rd line centre. He got most of his points by playing wing with Leon or McDavid
That would mean he was playing with first line talent. Why would he play there so much if he is horrible?
@@Buffalosabskis injury? Randomly to take faceoffs? lol. You could put anyone with McDavid and they'd get points.
@@gootvansquid I still don't mind trading an AHL scratch for him
@@Buffalosabskis Its because coaching staff would give Leon the better wingers to get him going
@@ProtagonisTeneT The Sabres have 5 exact players like him. People are acting like this trade is absurd. I didn't hear anyone discussing how Savoie would be a game changer a few years down the road for the Sabres. All you heard was "Adams has so many prospects under 6 foot". McLeod is a 3rd line center on the Sabres. People also act like they love every option the Sabres have without him. Everyone just looks for excuses to complain. I hate to break it to everyone, but signing Stamkos for 4.5 mil for him to come to his dream town, trading the 14th for an amazing gritty NHL plus 30 center that is 6 foot 5 and 230lbs and getting Skinner to waive his no trade for a one on one trade with a younger cheaper 40 goal scorer was not going to happen. Even then people would be crying about Adams
Oilers fan here, y'all got fleeced
Haha i was thinking the exact same thing.
He couldn't beat a 18 year old for a spot on the Sabres last year. I'm sure there's a 17 year old on the Oilers he can replace. You're right, Sabres got fleeced! He should definitely help with the Oilers problems on defense and in net. Oh wait, he's not a defenseman or goaltender. Well, he probably can be switched to D and outplay Nurse. There's that.
as an Oilers fan I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!YAASSSSSSSSS BUFFALO TAKE THIS NON SCORING, NON PUCK BATTLE WINNING, NON DOING ANYTHING SOFT STICK OF BUTTER BUFFALO BUTTER STICK MCLEOD WOOO HOOOOOO !!!!!!!!! ONLY OILERS FANS KNOW THE PAIN OF WATCHING MCLEOD!!!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🤠🤠🤠
@@LateCloserhe was way better than Benson. Even as line mates. The only reason he didn't beat him is awful coaching decisions. He played good everywhere every level
We did ..I feel like this is my fault cuz I was just bragging to my boy how if we did go all in on our young team that we have a guy that was linemates with Benson that steady gets 90 plus..I guarantee Oilers can put him in the NHL and he will play great for them. Have him learn from the other guy you fleeced from us when you guys won the lottery and got the Lethal McDavid. I hate saying this but we deserved that karma for blatantly cheering on national TV when our team would lose...IDC if tanking is the goal..gotta keep It somewhat classy and discreet. Congratulations on an awesome player brotha. Sabres fans dont deserve this one either if they're gonna be so quick to cast him away when all they know about him is what they heard on 550AM. Not all fans are like that here! But they are multiplying...
Massive regress
Bro shut up u don’t trade away a guy with the potential to be a 90 point number once center for a number three center. Yeah he makes us better now but this move and winning us a cup so who cares
He's not that good. Otherwise he'll have more accomplishment then a dominating playoff as a D+2.
His ceiling is closer to top line left winger, then franchise center. A better version of JJ Peterka. And even then, that's his celling. For all we know he could be Joel Armia.
@@JamesR1986 his ceiling is far higher than the player we just received. Everyone’s talking about how we need a third line center. Why? Will this move help us win a cup ? No . We way over payed.
POTENTIAL. He could be shit. We have other guys to fill his shoes. All you doomers wont stop fuckin complaining
Anyone who saw me shitting on fans in our Sabres fan base...this here @evanrichter3893 is an actual fan that uses logic and not what they've heard on Schoop and the Bulldog...
@@JamesR1986where are you getting this nonsense..I appreciate it cuz it seems like its original and not something you heard..so right there..hell yeah.. but that is an insane amount of moving parts to say well he's only gonna be a better JJ..my bad if I'm coming off like I'm ripping on you...I just honestly would like to know where you came up with that..I know if you did your own observation and scouting it can get tedious but if you can hit me with the cliff notes or something
I'm not a whiny Sabres naysayer, i keep positive. But I saw this...
That's fine, I'll just leave my lifetime role as a Sabres fan and watch Oilers instead. They already became the only other team I planned to watch after the playoffs this year. One of only 2 players they could piss me off by trading. Most certainly no assets left to get a top 6 F now lol. Fail of a trade, good lord. See you in hell Kevyn Adams.
Have fun. Did you like Edmonton in the decade of darkness? Picking a team is not having a team. Then you are just like Snoop Dogg with last years cup winner as his team every October
@@Buffalosabskis I've been ONLY a Sabres fan for the full 20 years I've watched hockey. I"ve supported them and only spoke optimistically, defended them and defended Adams up until this.
What do you call the 10+ years of nothing we've had in Buffalo? Something worse than "Decade of Darkness" - so what?
Every year I choose a team to follow in the playoffs, but I've never fallen in love with one of them like I did with the Oilers this year. They are also FUN to watch.
So now I have two teams.
It would've been smarter to bring up Savoie and play him this year rather than make this trade, ffs. They should've traded Benson and/or Krebs and pick(s) for a top 6 player. That's what we lost. We lost 2 top 6 players for a collection of 4th liners and 1-2 3rd liners.
I don't have faith Krebs or Benson will be top 6 material this year or next year. Savoie would've been our (very near) future.
This trade makes us worse, outside this single year. You think we're gonna win the cup this year? No. This was a massive failure of a move. Buying out Skinner without a replacement for our top line was a bad move. Peterka belongs on the 2nd line.
I love what we did for the bottom 6, which has nothing to do with either of these terrible moves. But being "tougher to play against" without scoring more goals isn't going to mean much.
I can't defend this anymore. I've been doing it since our Presidents trophy team disbanded and I can't anymore. So now I'll go for my doses of pain watching Buffalo and get my fun watching the Oilers.
At least I can watch Sabres players I love win Cups somewhere.
@@gootvansquid They tried to make deals they just didn't have any. They wanted to do more trades, but no bites. I also would not want them signing Stamkos for 11 mil to get him to come here.That would be Hall all over again. This team getting swept in the first round would be huge for the organization. Also the last time Edmonton went to the finals the next decade did not go well. Not saying that will happen, but things come up
@@Buffalosabskis I know. And I would rather have a team built on prospects and hard-working guys than overpaid free agents who don't want to be here.
I have no doubt the Oilers are going to be a very fun team to watch this coming season. I'm excited to see what Skinner can pull off there. Was very sad to see him go.
I really think we should've waited another year to buy him out. Skinner-Thompson-Tuch was a great line. With no one to replace him, our top 6 got worse while our bottom 6 got better. I do love the look of our bottom 6 now (I loved it before this McLeod trade. I don't think it was necessary at all)
Ryan's soft, he was a healthy scratch in some of those playoff games because of it. Thanks for the incompetance of your GM Buffalo.... we appreciate it - Oiltown. Oh and this guy 😆
Does he match up defensively against the other teams top lines? We need a defensive center like that in Buffalo.
as an Oilers fan I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!YAASSSSSSSSS BUFFALO TAKE THIS NON SCORING, NON PUCK BATTLE WINNING, NON DOING ANYTHING SOFT STICK OF BUTTER BUFFALO BUTTER STICK MCLEOD WOOO HOOOOOO !!!!!!!!! ONLY OILERS FANS KNOW THE PAIN OF WATCHING MCLEOD!!!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🤠🤠🤠
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos That bad huh. 🤦♂️ As a Sabres fan I’ll cling to the fact McLeod’s analytics chart looks very good. And congrats on your Stanley Cup next year. O’Reilly, Eichel, and Reinhart got one after leaving Buffalo. I’ve got money on Skinner being next.
@@grumpyscott17 Or it could be like 06 and both Florida and Edmonton miss and the Oilers go a decade with no playoffs. It does happen. Im not saying it will. Just pointing out other long playoff droughts. He is an upgrade to what the Sabres have. Edmonton does not seem to get that the Sabres do not need a guy that is 3 years away from the NHL and played awful in the AHL playoffs.
@@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos Hi! Many Sabres fans were rooting for the Oilers in the finals. The Oilers have had some hard years in the past and Sabres fans are genuinely empathetic towards Edmonton. I hope you're not representative of your average Oiler fan. You sir: Are rude, plain ol' mean, arrogant and an all around dumb donkey. Hey!............Are you from Toronto?
Looks like adams wants to be fired before the season starts. WhO in their right mind would buy season tickets with their hard earned moneyfor this starting roster on the ice. Only diehard fools. Another long non playoff season coming up.
no disrespect to Ryan McLeod as a person but..... I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!YAASSSSSSSSS TAKE THIS NON SCORING, NON PUCK BATTLE WINNING, NON DOING ANYTHING SOFT STICK OF BUTTER BUFFALO BUTTER STICK MCLEOD WOOO HOOOOOO !!!!!!!!! ONLY OILERS FANS KNOW THE PAIN OF WATCHING MCLEOD!!!!!!!!!🥳🥳🥳🥳
All the sabres fans on here crying about trading Savoie are the ones who have been crying since they didn't make the playoffs to trade a top prospect for a 3rd line center.
He’s not a 3rd line center though. Only on a non playoff team is McLoud a 3rd line center.... maybe. On Edmonton he’s a 4th line center sometimes or a healthy scratch. He’s not worth 2.1mil a year that’s for damn sure.
A top prospect. "A" top prospect. Not THE top prospect. Not f*cking Savoie. For a 50% faceoff non-point producer who should be a 4th liner. I was fine with giving Lafferty the 3c position.
Should've traded Benson.
@gootvansquid Savoie isn't the Sabs top prospect. Kulich is way ahead of him and so is Benson who they trusted to keep up the whole year last year. I'm not saying I love trading Savoie but he's 2 years out at least. They need bottom 6 help now. This also puts Krebs in a better position to play on the wing with a decent 3rd center. Ntm Savoie isn't nearly as big as Noah Ostlund, JK, Wahlberg, Rosen or the Russians. The sabs literally have to many prospects at this point. They need to make the playoffs now. Savoie even tho I really like him isn't getting to the playoffs any sooner
If you’re Tage Thompson you have to be begging for a trade at this point. Oilers should have hung on to Jack Campbell. Looking like we could have traded him for Thompson 😂.
We got to forwards for Savoy
And?
I would've traded Benson and Krebs over Savoie.
Would you say that if Oilers traded McDavid as a rookie for a 3rd/4th line center and 4 random AHL guys?
No...
Also it's "two" forwards.
Matt boves opinion is less than shit. I said what I said
Matt is by far one of the best sports reporters in Buffalo. Maybe you're confusing him with Paul Hamilton.
@@unknown4091Paul Hamilton and Mike Harrington are far better than Matt bove
You got to be off the ice to think you benefit in ANYWAY from this trade. I don’t mean the ice inside the rink either.
Only a druggie would ever think this is a good trade.