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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
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The American Bass XO 12 beats these hands down for $70 each
I would like to see how a GRS 12SW-4HE 12" compares to these namebrand subs
@@theresistance2641- Question is will they outlast the life of those two speakers.
Competition between manufacturers, makes it better for the consumers.
Indeed
I've played with a lot of the lcsv2s. They do REALLY well in almost any enclosure, not as picky as many other subs. I can throw 2 12s or even 10s in my sedan in any box and get 140+dbs on 1300.
Now this is something I can get down with. I would love to see these companies gl head to head.
Makes it fun!
As usual loaded with info. Thanks for the video and your time bud. Definitely agree the DD is a more defined delivery but definitely both great subs!
Can’t go wrong with either imo and thanks for watching!
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
DD bro. Ct isn’t even comparable. Theyre like skar. Cheap loud bass
The DD jab I’ve heard is referring to SA finally adding a neo ring to their voice coil after years of hatin DD’s supercharging with neodymium rings. Can’t beat em, copy em.
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 CTs are a rebranded version of a dozen other subs made in China. The DDs are hand-built in USA with unique parts specifically for better performance.
Never heard either in person, but my guess is DD is superior.
Dd designed here built over seas
@@mn_mt0964wrong. 2500 series and up are all hand made in the usa in Oklahoma.
Not all models.just redline
I was a huge Dd supporter because of there 12 volt amplifier!!!!!!!!!! Now that sundown has a 12 volt amp im loving it!!!
I like DD better.
Dd is the best brand
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? CT Sounds, DD Audio or JL Audio?
I have both.
Dd510
Sundown x12v2
My 510 hits extremely hard for what it is.
Hey man i want 2 xv3 would you rather go withbdd audio instead?@@ashleyburke2282
The statement made by DD was not in relation to an entry-level sub. It was in relation to the super charging of highet model subs using a method that DD used for many years and is now used by Sundown.
Right and I used that as a catalyst to test 2 of them subs I had on hand already
@@HifiVega That then makes it a misrepresentation since the sub used doe not contains that tech. My friend, you do make great videos with excellent info. Just keep it accurate.
Sddn is not the highest end sundown sub, there is the nsv6,the team ferrite, the team neo, the compact neo, and there the inhuman, plus the zv7 in the works.
Super charging is not a dd exclusive thing. Many other brand still do or have offered the super charging option. Twisted sounds, crystal audio solutions, and the cab audio ultra v2. Are just a few i find it really odd DD and there fan base took offense to sundown doing it. Like whats wrong bruh skerd sundown is gonna make a better sub
The sensativity in the dd is 2 db higher so it will be little louder on same power
That’s a good rule of thumb, but in this case they had the same power and it was 1db quieter.
Great final thoughts. It's so easy to get caught up in the numbers, but I throw the meter on the windshield once in a while and honestly I rarely listen to it over maybe 125
Everyone has a goal with the equipment they buy so I try to consider the different types of buyers fo sho
I personally like the way that dd sounds. I have 2 sl612s in my truck 2 2508s in my vette 2 818s in my tahoe and are presently building a truck with 3 9915bs. I have heard a lot of sundown and they are a quality brand. Just don't understand why people brand bash. "Can't we all just get along"
Rodney King tried to told everybody!
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
DD FTW. my in home setup has 2x dd 506 subs and vo b1 tweeters. in my car i run 1x dd 712 on a SD 3kw evo4 amp and it handles it easily. mids/highs: dd vo m6.5 + dd ex6.5 (rear) + dd CT28 tweeters on a SD 400.4 evo4 amp. very good SQ and it gets loud and plays lows very nicely
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
I have a single 712 as well but running it only on a sundown 1100😢what do you have done electrical wise?
@@55tbyrd stock electrical. benz om611 engine with 190a watercooled alternator. voltage never drops under 14.2. battery is 100ah
DD FTW 4LIFE been rockin w DD ov 15 yr's now..hands down no comparison if you have the money to spend..it takes money to stay big loud and proud.. NOW LET'S GO #TEAMDD...🤜🏼🤛🏼🫅🫅👍🏼👍🏼🦾🦿 great content as always bro.. keep it up my fellow bass/audio head....!!!?? DD Z2 J from Jerz...
Thanks for watching!
DD takes a knee to sundown
@@shawndieser9381 which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
I'd like to see the Parker the Bass Head/ Deaf bounce test of RMS power for 5 minutes and see how they hold up. Great video 👍
I have heard both and the DD is a much better sounding sub. That being said I love Sundown, but your comparing a company that makes Ferrari's to one that makes jacked up Diesel trucks imo.
I choose sundown imo bc I’m broke
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 DD
@@RJayRabbit which brand thumps softer? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
Nice test, thanks from Poland.
LCS is a pleasant surprise SPL wise... DD has superb 👌 sound so yah you won't lose 👍😎
Both solid performers fo sho
Which has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 I would lean towards CT... haven't owned any. But the system or 2 I have heard sound amazing. DD tend to be more SPL overall... just my 2 cents. Hopefully Vega has a better opinion & answers better than I. 👍😎 Hit that Bass Knob lol
@@z1berzerker i am using JBL for now, which brand do you think has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or JBL?
@@markfrederick5012 that's wide open... I would still go CT in a vehicle. Jbl home 🏡 quality 👌 ✨ totally different. JBL has a storied history. I will work on learning more 👍😎 not always right, just have a few good ideas lol 😆
I have 2 dd audio redline hd 10's in my super duty im happy with them pushing them with a kicker key 500.1 in sealed box they sound great haha and in my other super duty I got 4 sundown sa8's pushed by a audioControl 1500.1 also sealed the dd sounds a bit better but the sundown's pound lol when I change out next time I going to try 4 kicker l7 q class 10's if I can make them fit lol. thanks for sharing
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
I actually like the 2.5 coil 600rms watt Power Acoustik that they sell at Walmart better.
Gothics are sleepers too!
These subs remind me of my 18 year old MTX Road Thunder RT12-04 twelve’s. They weren’t mind blowing but they just sounded really really good
For sure
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? CT Sounds, DC Audio, DD Audio, Image Dynamics or JL Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 all of them
Do the DD Z vs The Sundown Flagship Sub. The NSV6 OR ZV6. The DD Z eats it for breakfast.
It’s been tested. The sundown neo is louder 🤷♂️
@@massivespl2163read that on the back of a cereal box?! Clown shit
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
Correct me if I'm wrong but sundown is known more for SPL and massive bassheads then SQ and more "clean" sounding subs. That being said, great comparison as always Rob, always look forward to you uploads!
They are, but I’ve found every sundown sub SA series and under sound very good and much better than most people would expect
@@HifiVega Duely noted sir! 👍
There a massive misnomer in the Industry, that SPL subs can't do SQ!
Sundown was used in the loudest build on the planet. And they have numerous sq records
@@RJSDZNS clean sounding but not SQ? Do you really know what you're saying? 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️
Good vid repping both. Now, if somebody would do a video of some Cerwin Vega- Vega series subs 🤔 they maybe surprised in a good way
They both decent subs but i think i would go with the newer sundown lcsv2. The best budget sub is still the crossfire c3 12. The ones i got my wife are still bumping and sounding good sounded better after i installed the jp8.
I have 6 of the lcs v1s....800 wrms each..... underrated cheap beasts!
Agreed
The lcs actually get down pretty damn good!!!
LCS is a well known budget block beater!
Now that you've done this do the x8v3 vs the dd 2508 I've had both and sold the x8's to me the sound difference was unmatched from the 2508's
I’d love to do that one and might at some point! Both are big boy lil subs
@@HifiVega just wait for the z8
Thanks for another great video, hifi.
I appreciate you
Appreciate you watching!
You must have a good sub that basically has good sound and doesn't color too much. Then you have a good starting point and it is easier to get a good sound.
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? CT Sounds, DD Audio or JL Audio? I hope someone will reply because i am planning to buy one of those subwoofers before christmas'
Sundown is the new skar 💀💀💀
Cold as ice! 🥶🥶
Both are pretty badass sub manufacturers. BUT I still like the Sevard Rap line of subwoofers for an entry level sub. Even the 8 inch Rap sub hits 20 Hz - 500 Hz! Now they do need some power as they are not the most efficient, but still 20 Hz!
Coming from a guy who has used kicker most his life my Zv5 hybrids on Salt 8 SLAM! 💪
I think it's more about the supercharged DD sundown copied
It is, but I didn’t have either one of those subs on hand.
In a world of Pick a Chinese Sub and slap your sticker on it..
👉A little competitive trash talk can only be a good thing for us as consumers 💯👊Choose your brand and bang it💯
At least with these 2 companies I can rest assured they did do some engineering before they were made in China. A ton of other companies def not!
You need to check deferent series like 600 series DD audio
Didn't "CROSSFIRE-C3 12IN" win the Budget Subwoofer contest 🤔. Please show those subwoofers. They are the Champs, taking on all new comers 🙂
Patiently waiting for my DD RL-PSW10 🎉🙌 to arrive
R.I.P JBL 102SSI😢
Which brand has cleaner bass? DD Audio or JBL?
Actually like the DD more 👌
DD all day
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
I've got to go with DD being from OKC ya know😂
I already knew!
@HifiVega I'm partial to soundqubed but you know DD sold that side of the company to Skyhigh audio.
@@edud8452 yep sho did
Which has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
Darn if you could do an v2 now vs the v1 🔥
That’s a good idea
which one has louder bass (spl)
Resilient sounds RS entry 12, 3 inch VC 500rms and handles way more.
DD for life
Which brand has cleaner bass? DD Audio or JBL?
Would be intressting to see like a 9915esp vs a zv6
Would be great
Thats a 4inch coil coil vs a 3inch coil.
The sundown would take it based on efficiency. The only 4" coil sundown sub i know of is the team. But even at that the sddn would be louder on less power than the 99 series or the team series
@HifiVega you have the knowledge and tools to make this a proper comparison. You should have pulled the TS on both drivers after the break-in, then build the best music box for each. By using the same box for both. now you have people saying the box is too big or too small for the drivers and we all know the box is 90% of the equation.
Let me address all these assumptions separately.
1. I have a full time job that leaves me only the weekends to spend time with the family and work on video. I spend every Sunday working on video wether it’s editing or capturing video.
2. Both of these drivers have the same recommended enclosures
3. If you’ve ever really built a lot of enclosures you’d know manufacturers recommended airspace’s are usually not optimal and when you pull the specs you find they need something outside the recommended space.
4. I’ve tested over 40 subwoofers are you suggesting I should have spent money on the wood for each one not the mention the time to model each one and build the optimal enclosure? The cost of materials is one thing, but the time is much more valuable to me.
@HifiVega I know it's a lot of work, and I truly thank you for your time. I know there will be people saying you can't compare this over that because each driver performs better with different boxes. Maybe I missed it in your video where you mentioned the test box was within the MFG recommended size. Do keep up the good work and I appreciate you replying back.
I just went from 2 Rockford p2 subs to a midrange dd and my god the sq is amazing. Rockford hits hard but the sound is rubbish. This single dd sub puts a smile on my face no matter what track i listen to.
That’s what it’s all about! Smiles per gallon
Which brand has cleaner bass? DD Audio or CT Sounds?
@@markfrederick5012 dd for sure
Love my subs but are these car subs just making thud noises or quality bass? each CZcams video demo i watch are just thud spl levels vs deep bass!!??
Great video my boi keep up the great content your a underated CZcamsr people sleep on you vids .shout out fron Chitown yeeeee
Appreciate ya!
Great content bro keep it up!
Thanks!
@@HifiVega best value 12` driver for SQ in your view
@@hotdog9262 honestly… if you’re not going to put a ton of power on it I like the Rockville K9 for sound and output
Hey bro what should I run an Xv3 12 or DD 9912. Already own the X, But someone in my area has a 9912 when you're thinking about doing a swap plus cash. I don't know TS parameters and how to understand them So I'm curious as to if it would be worth to spend the extra money or just should I just run the X
Entry level I don't know. But in my opinion the higher end I gotta go with dd.. but they're both good brands
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
can you compare Fi to Sundown? The Fi MT seems to be interesting, 4500w for $700
I just got 2 9918 ESPs impressive
I wouldnt choose either, i would go B2 or CT sound or even better. Right now im using Ground Zero gzhw20-d1(8.0")
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? CT Sounds, DD Audio or JL Audio?
Go get a Zoon Q2n camera, they have a volume input so you can get true sound with out the distortion .
I have volume control on my Sony ZV-1, but the Rode shotgun mic was only rated for 130db so it was on me. I typically use another deity mic that can handle a bit more
Cool. We use the Zoom for the band and it is crystal clear, and 4k video. Built in stereo mics too.
I really like the 2508s and the 95 and 99 series DD audio
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
Sundown no questions
DD sounds much better to me but the Sundown is okay to
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
Sundown has won almost every competition and holds the loudest vehicle in the world record (185.2db)
8” DD audio 600 series or 12”sundown EV.4 series?
Will be more fun to see if you had the SPL meter on the windsheald :) Would always gain a littlebit on the right floor.
I love sundown, but in my daily now i have a DD-redline 10 with gas pro 1000d amp.
Also have 2x GAS GPX300D1 with a to small box with 8 aeroport so i can have low and high hz and use litihum bank from vw up as battery and sundown SCV4000D.
Have also ssa spl meter and aiming for 150db+ on the 2x12 :)
Also have a box with 4x6.5" box, mby something fun in that later :D
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 i like dd audio alot, sundown, gas etc. The box is the important, thats most of the sound.
@@Morteexx so you mean DD Audio has cleaner bass than CT Sounds, am i right?
@@markfrederick5012 No, you clearly dont gonna hear a diffrence ithink. If its used the same box.
@@Morteexx how about dd audio vs jL audio, which brand has cleaner bass?
HifiVega How does the $99 Crossfire 12 inch, compare to this Dd Redline, Sq wise, and to the Sundown Db wise on 500 Watts?
I think the hi def tuned redline sounds better, but the power tuned is on par with them
DD is alot tighter sounding than sundown subs from my testing.
what you mean bro?
@@Guero__ they are slightly more accurate.
@@markfrederick5012 digital designs
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? CT Sounds, DD Audio or JL Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 hard choice between dd and jl. but for ultra smooth bass id go an jl w6 or w7.
what does sens 89 db mean? more output on the same power? i've seen some expensive subs with only 83 sens db, could you explain?
The higher the sensitivity less power it takes to get it loud
The sundown lcs will hit up to 5000 watts before you have malfunction with it they bump
Both great brands. I have Nightshade v5s so Sundown for me.
Sundown. Easy to find. Better prices. Jacob actually has customer service.
No doubt, F DD who kept their BS dealer purchase only for so long and they still only offer lowest end stuff direct to consumer.
They are both great
Dd has way better engineered subwoofers. Pound for pound coil for coil dd takes the cake. Epically with the esp and supercharged options. When you talk about flagships... The dd z4 is and insane piece of technology. And it hits soo hard it's unbelievable.
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
Sundown is the one out there right now DD audio is a awesome brand also but I’m a sundown team
Both great subs put them up against crossfire c3v3 their good subs too
Love my c7😊
TEAM SUNDOWN
Crossfire c3 should be in this too
It’s a great sub no doubt
That motor looks EXACTLY the same…And with motor i mean the slugs not the plate…
The good DD subs are just too expensive
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
I've been to a lot of shows, and I've never been in a DD build that made me want to tap. I don't like the surround design either. I know they functionally are fantastic, I am staying visually only, I do not like the DD surround. I've heard a lot of both companies, and from all of the shows I have been to, sundown demo builds have been better.
That said, DCFTW 😁
You haven’t heard a real DD build then lol they hold the loudest 20hz record
@@sammajamma1320 just not enough of it on the west coast.
Both are great subs ...DD drop notes sundown drop loud deep bass
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 CT sounds for the win
@@bassismygod9859 is that true?
Of course dd wins has won the most sound competitions 😁🤫🤔😎🙌💪💪💪💪💪💪
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
the redline screams CT Sounds Bio subwoofers all day
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
dd is top of the line! sundown startet cheap but now the have a name and the charge for the name! sundown market is only use. DD sells to the hole would! and to the mars when elons rocked lands!
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
Dd is better, but I have sundown in 3 of my cars
Which brand has cleaner and softer thumping bass? CT Sounds, DC Audio, DD Audio, Image Dynamics or JL Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 How many times are you going to ask this
Please answer him 😂😂@@jjglass535
Anyone who is educated about them, knows that DD is a superior company, brand. Sundown is just rebranded Chinese branding. The redline is made in China, but uses DD engineering, research, and patents. I am a big fan of DD audio, but I will admit the entry level Redline stuff is not anything great. The brand new Redline series is improved though also. DD mid tier stuff and higher end stuff is exceptional quality.
Sundown audio fan😊😊😊
SUNDOWN FOR THE WIN 🏆
DD has how many world championships...sundown has how many..nuff said..
It’s all about perspective. DD Audio had many championships when I was competing before Sundown ever existed.
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
DD audio all day
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
@@markfrederick5012 I say DD
@@DavidJ909 have you heard those two brands in person?
@@DavidJ909 thank you for the reply, now i know which brand i will buy before christmas 🎅
@@markfrederick5012 Yes. Sundown takes alot of power to sound good. I owned some before. DD are better sounding and better engineered.
love it
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This is how I know I've become a bass snob. As soon as I heard 300 watts I stopped the video. Under 1000 watts RMS is pointless to me now. 😂😂😂
I hear ya, but you still gotta watch to the end to see what crazy stuff ima say 😂
Thats pretty easy sundown currently holds the world record. Plus that new sddn and that are always making improvements to all their other products not to mention the compact neos and the inhuman. And dd got all but hurt over the sddn thats not to say i dont like dd stuff i own a pair of 9512s there stuff is just over priced
DD audio is better and super.👍👍✌️
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
Sundown all day..!!!
Hyanka bsf entry level for 90 bux for a 12 kills both of these not even close
Output wise sure
I haven’t owned a sub with an rms rating under 3500 watts in a long time. I didn’t know stuff this cheap still existed. Good video👍
I have a 99 Dd 18 and two sundown xv3 12s now the xv3 12s is 2000rms for 650 each now my 99 Dd is 2500 rms but it can handle 10k at burst The Dd motors are way stronger and they have more control when it comes to excursion Dd for the win
Which brand has cleaner bass? dd Audio or JBL?
@@markfrederick5012 Dd bro for the win
@@ceciljones1248 how about CT Sounds and DD Audio, which of them has cleaner bass?
@markfrederick5012 I'm not a street shop all I have is a 4 channel ct sounds amplifier I haven't heard anything negative about this company they are down here in Houston and I haven't ran across anyone with their subwoofers all I own is DD PSI FI SUNDOWN AND MASSIVE AUDIO I would go with Dd first then Fi then the rest To be honest with you Jl audio is a good sq subwoofer but I'm not giving them that kinda of money 💰
@@ceciljones1248 DD Audio or JL Audio? Which has cleaner bass?
For me I say DD is better because none of their products have failed on me. I’ve had probably half as much sundown audio gear as my DD stuff and have had 2 sundown amps fail, they’re trash.
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
I don’t even have to watch the video to know DD better
Which brand has cleaner bass? CT Sounds or DD Audio?
@@markfrederick5012DD for sure
@@sammajamma1320 have you heard those two brands in person?
@@sammajamma1320 thank you for the reply, now i know which brand i will buy before christmas 🎅
The only brand that’s gonna have a cleaner hit than DD is JL audio but if you want to go full spl and be loud with quality sound you go with DD all the way
DD definitely better overall subs
Which brand has cleaner bass? DD Audio or JL Audio?
Neffex ?
🤟🏼 Yep