JOHN GLOVER: Acting Into 80, Smallville Secrets, Career Regrets & Being ‘Less Than’
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John Glover (Smallville, Tony Award Winner) joins us in studio for an open and honest conversation about aging in this industry while wanting to stay busy amidst all the craziness that has surrounded us over the past few years.
John talks more about his desire to act until the day he dies and how we share similarities of starting to act by chasing peer approval at a young age.
We also talk about his opinion on the writing for Lionel Luthor during Smallville, who he regrets ‘chickening out on’ working with in his career, and the praise he receives by bringing complexity to the villains he plays.
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
4:07 - John Glover
5:22 - Young at heart
8:02 - Fear with acting
10:55 - Thirst for validation
13:02 - Do you love yourself
15:45 - Nutrisense
18:57 - Like TV father, like TV son
21:57 - Putting down the bottle
24:00 - Alzheimer's reflection
27:55 - Wanting to impress Dad
30:40 - Betterhelp
31:59 - Neurohacker Qualia Senolytic
34:51 - Discover
35:28 - Lulls
37:15 - Honesty in therapy
40:31 - Obsessing with the end
42:20 - Learning from the good AND bad
45:22 - Perfecting the villain
47:36 - Stealing the show on Smallville
49:40 - John’s request on Smallville
52:00 - Frustration with his story arc
55:10 - Key to a good relationship
56:05 - Best actor he’s ever worked will
59:10 - Opinion of Bill Murray
1:02:20 - Unconcerned with fame
1:06:27 - ShitTalkin
1:11:20 - Outro
1:14:17 - Couldn’t do it without you
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JOHN GLOVER: Acting Into 80, Smallville Secrets, Career Regrets & Being ‘Less Than’ #insideofyou #johnglover #smallville - Zábava
Lionel Luthor was very possibly my favourite character on Smallville. John played him to perfection.
I liked lionel up to season 5 ish and then the character wasnt exactly what I loved about him, even still John Glover always played it perfectly❤
Agreed
ABSOLUTELY, also he played a GREAT SATAN!!!😭🤣😂😆👏👏👏
Lex was clearly the best character of the show. Then Lois and Lionel came in third place. I was on the verge of giving up the show at the time and then Lana finally left. The back and forth between her and Clark was just getting on my nerves. It wasn't her or Clark's fault, it was the authors' fault. For me, the fresh, light wind that Lois brought to the show clearly saved the series for me. And what happened after the time jump was simple The best seasons of the show, except the return of Lionel with the parallel world. That wasn't so cool. By far the worst, however, was the departure of Lex.
Incredible what he added to the Superman mythos as Lionel
I love that you can really see Michael's love, understanding, and care for John. I really do feel like Michael reveres him as a father figure in his life and you can even see it in his face and hear it in their voices throughout the conversation. Great team you guys are.
Irony abounds. A similar framework exists between Welling and Schneider.
He is a legend love all his work, but I must confess this is hard to watch getting old socks. U can tell his mind is Deteriorating, and I think micheal recognized it, and he trying to help him out
@@cedricgaming5106 Yes, I noticed that too. It was definitely a little sad seeing Michael ask him a question and watching John trying to find the words or thoughts to answer it; he seemed a little lost or disoriented, but I love that Michael recognized that and helped him along.
@@LucasJake88I don’t wish Alzheimer’s upon my worst enemy, my grandmother died of that. That disease is absolute and pure evil, I hope John’s memory gets better when he starts working again.
A son taking care of his father, it's beautiful to see.
I'm 40 and my dad is 79 and we watched Smallville and Trek and a million other things together, and this is just making me so happy to listen to. Thank you!
That's cool, enjoy those moments with your dad, special times for sure. I'm 41 with a dad with Dementia. D
@@user-ux8um7wu7z that sucks. My dad is slipping a lot but it's not the same. You're doing a Good Job©
Cheers ❤
MIchael clearly wants John to be happy, and is concerned for him, really heart warming to see. John has done so much and been so successful, he can step back and enjoy experiencing life.
Not an understatement to say that it was the Luthors' relationship in Smallville that hooked me initially to the show. Glover was just awesome in that role, and Rosey - who still in my mind is the best on-screen Lex - was just a treat to watch interact with him throughout the show. Such a great pairing and had really great chemistry. And Glover was just EVERYWHERE back in the day- Scrooged, Gremlins 2, Robocop 2. And can't forget to mention is role as the Riddler in the Batman Animated series. Great guest Rosey!
When John Glover speaks to you there is that intellectual quality to his performance. The Riddler persona and Lionel Luthor seriously are my favorite performances.
What a fantastic human being John Glover seems to be and how clearly Michael's love for him comes across in this lovely episode.
I agree, it’s just so sweet to see Michael’s love and admiration for Mr Glover.
I always love John's portrayal of characters. It's a master class in acting every time.
*Every* time?
Jason Woodroe?
"NoW i THiNK You HaVe To Die!"
Even Glover, as stupendous as he was, didn't make that role good.
I met John in Santa Fe and you would never know he's the age he is. He and Adam are just great guys. Such a pleasure having dinner with them celebrating our Anniversaries. We just had our 25th and they just celebrated 31 years.
Absolutely love Michael's voice. So soft and soothing.... Lex and Lionel were my favorite characters in the show.. Miss them...
What a legend! The intellectual sparring between Lionel and Lex elevated Smallville far above a typical teen show. Great writing, and great actors!
Thanks for bringing back Mr. Luthor! He should've gotten Best Dad of the Year award every single year during Smallville. 👌👌💪💪
Such a great actor. I always feel so drawn to his characters. Very powerful performances
I first discovered John Glover when I was much younger in Gremlins 2. A very underrated movie and a very cool character. I'm always happy to see him in shows when he shows up and he was just awesome in Smallville.
This was an absolutely beautiful interview, the rapport between the two of you was delightful and I am so glad you suggested getting together with John so that you can both help and inspire each other. Thank you for having John on the podcast again, it was nice to see father and son reunited 🤗💖
Clicked on this so quick the video won't even load 😂😂
Same... 😂
No shame, it’ll happen to us all sooner or later.
John Glover is great in everything he’s in! Especially 52 Pickup if you haven’t seen it. And masquerade. But he’s scenes in Payback are also great. But Glover truly shines in 52 Pickup.
Also was on a classic episode of Miami Vice. Truly a very talented actor.
I loved watching John Glover in Brimstone. That show, and his acting, are what actually made me be willing to watch Smallville.
Brimstone was criminally underrated.
I don't know what it is, but it is really humbling and comforting to listen to you celebrities talk about mental health, life struggles, and you know, just being human. You do it so candidly and to me as a fan of your acting careers and the characters you played, it really helps me understand that even celebrities have drama just like we all do. The media never shows this of course, so I really love your podcast for this. Thank you for what you do Rosey and John, you are a legend and I'm so glad you were cast as a regular on Smallville instead of initially just slated to be a guest star. You played Lionel so well! Rosey, you were and still are the best Lex Luthor!
Nothing beats a conversation between the two Luthers, your guises chemistry is next level
I never knew John Glover was gay until now. Despite loving him in Smallville and knowing him from some movies like Batman and Robin, he was probably the best thing in that movie lol, I haven't looked too deep into his life off set. It's sad that he might be dealing with Alzheimer. My own dad is going through that. I wish him all the luck and hope he can continue acting for quite a while longer.
This was very touching, how gentle and patient Mike is with Jon. My mother died from ddementia in 2022, and I know how hard it is to be patient and helpful with people. Nice work Michael, double thumbs up!
I can feel what he's saying. I crochet and have multiple projects going. When I get more than I need, I donate then to clothes drives for homeless or people who have lost everything.
I just finished listening to this episode and it was delightful. John’s thoughts on death was interesting. Kind of ironic since tomorrow is the Legacy of Talkville. John definitely needs to be back on the podcast again. There is always a warmness when you interview John. Best podcast ever!
Love me a John Glover Inside of You episode! This podcast is the highlight of my day.
John Glover is such a treasure. Cool to see him sort of have a father/son relationship off screen with Michael.
I absolutely adored this podcast, it was like having Talkville and Inside of You all in one go. Two very dear precious men who really care about each other, and who are willing to be vulnerable with each other, and with the listeners. For those of us that have had tough childhoods, it's so relatable. Wish I could give the both of you, and good old Ryan, a big hug. You are both beautiful people and excellent actors. Blessings
These two were a tour de force on screen together. As others have pointed out, I wouldn't have become so invested in Smallville if it weren't for their absolutely phenomenal performances and the chemistry they effortlessly exuded.
Daddy Luthor & his son , reunited and it feels so good
“You’re my baby” 😭😭 love these two together.
You guys were the best part of Smallville. One of the saddest things about Lionel dying was it ended the journey of a dark man trying to become better by overcoming his ego and desire for control. I found said journey very interesting and something you would typically see on television.
I could watch you guys talk all day! My inner child is so happy seeing Lex and Lionel in the same room together again. 😊
I can honestly say that I have never seen anything that John Glover has been in that I didn't believe he did his job above and beyond, thank you Mr. Glover.
He was in Smallville as Lex Luthor's dad (Rosenbaum was Lex) and in Shazam as Dr. Shivana's dad.
Okay ive listened to this episode twice now and oh its so good. Both Michael and John have such great chemistry and the touching father/son moment at the ending @1:12:00 was the icing on the cake.
Speaking of death, my Grandmother recently passed away at 97, but for the last 4 years she was in a nursing home with no quality of life, and as much as it pained me to think it, I wish she would have gone earlier. It's sad, but it's true.
Really enjoyed the interview. The chemistry between you both on Smallville was palpable and it’s great to see you both chatting as yourselves. As a relatively small time creative, it’s also nice to hear about how others deal with struggles in relation to their pursuits.
Well said. Same here.
He is such a joy to speak with In person. I said hi to him this weekend at RI comic con. Also I was very fortunate to have spoken to him and take a group photo with the legend and late Kevin Conroy back in 2021. Love the guy.
I felt like I was in the room watching this on CZcams. I could listen to John talk on and on and on. What a fabulous human being an actor. Some fabulous experiences he has shared with us today please get him back again soon Michael. Thankyou John❤
I don’t think there was ever a better duo playing father and son in a show. Your guys chemistry and charm on screen for scenes was completely unparalleled and spectacular. Glad to see you guys face to face for this podcast and bringing back such fond memories!
Its cool to see the real actors connect and share thoughts on things. Both of your characters have been iconic for me, but seeing the more personal side of the real people behind those characters brings some relatablity.
Love your friendship with John another amazing episode. I really enjoyed meeting you both at Salt Lake FanX only wish I wasn’t so nervous meeting you and John. You both made me come out of my shell and I don’t feel as nervous as I used to. I would love to meet you both again, maybe someday and get a photo with you both. John is so young at heart and so loving and kind, Love John and Adam both so talented. So glad you brought John back on the podcast. If you’re at any of the comic conventions That Michael and John appear,make sure to stop and meet them. John and Michael they both Rock!!!
One of my favorite actors. THE CHOCOLATE WAR, Gremlins 2. Everything he’s in but those two movies are my babies. Especially Chocolate War.
Thanks for bringing John over. It was very wonderful and wholesome to see him age so gracefully and to still remain as gentle and as warm soul as ever. I wish I was able to see him doing stage plays but even without such opportunities, there's still so much work of his to catch up with. 20 years later I still very much love the best ever cast Lex and Lionel Luthor.
Johns role in 52 Pickup is simply one of the greatest film noir Creepo Villains ever performed.
He would be a great dumbledore in Harry Potter HBO series
Ahhhhhh!!! What an unexpected treat! Love John so much!
John Glover is awesome. His portrayal of Lionel Luthor was one of my favorite parts of Smallville. Lionel's mere presence made for such an interesting origin story/foil for Lex. And, seeing the two of you play off each other was great. As a Smallville fan, it's fun to see that you get along as actors and friends. I remember one of your earlier interviews on the podcast where you pointed out how you thought he did not like you and then he either called you or invited you over... and, showed that wasn't the case. The one thing I really wanted to hear was anything about 52 Pick-up, i.e. stories about Roy Scheider or Ann-Margaret.
So interesting to see the behind the scenes relationship between two actors who did such great work opposite each other on screen.
What a great gift to get an insight into some of Glover’s wisdom and experience. What a legend.
I literally did not put it together that John was in Scrooged until just now. I’m so used to him being his natural brunette with or without the beard that I had to go back in my head, and I was like “Oh, shit, he was Bryce, the LA slimeball.” And now I’m running through the lunch scene right before Christmas Past shows up, his quick but memorable intro scene. Loved him in Scrooged!
Your show and guests are terrific, Michael.
It's great to see John here! I can still remember seeing Gremlins 2 in the cinema 33 years ago (Still a masterpiece to this day) and loving John in that film. Such a brilliant and hilarious character played to perfection. If they ever do a third Gremlins, I hope he will at least cameo as Daniel Clamp again. Genius.
This is an amazing podcast, you guys are the best part of Smallville. I’m watching season 8 now. Without your characters it’s missing a spark, you guys made the show. ❤
You guys were the best thing on Smallville!
So great to see John Glover in the studio this time. I've always been fascinated by his work and it was mildly disappointing when last time had to happen in the webcam format.
Such a sweet and endearing Luthor reunion. The love and respect y’all feel for each other really comes through. Thank you for being the best part of my day ❤🙏.
Always love to hear from him. I've had the pleasure of meeting both of you and I feel like I could just sit down and have a real convo with you.
Thank you for this podcast Michael, having these conversations and the respect you have for Mr. Glover is heartwarming, it reminds me of having conversations with my grandmother before she really lost her memory, letting him speak even when he had trouble remembering and helping when he needed help just made me feel so good inside.
I loved this interview. So genuine and honest. Michael did a great job. John is amazing, he is an artist through and through.
I jumped straight to the Bill Murray question first because Scrooged is awesome!
Now I shall go back and watch the whole interview with this legend.
One of my favorite character actors. The first thing I can remember him from was an episode of the Twilight Zone from the 80's, 'A Small Talent For War'. The character was an odd combination of seemingly benevolence but with hidden menace.
This entire episode is such a wonderful gift, and an amazing interview with such an amazing actor. Thank you Michael Rosenbaum for having John Glover on and thank you John Glover for being on this episode.
What a coincidence I was just listening to John's first inside of you episode last night. Looking forward to diving into this.
Lex. Son... I've been waiting for this day for a long time 🦁
Your relationship with him is so sweet, I love it
Wow what a interview, good for John Glover for giving up wine, well and truly touched me this interview, and yes Michael Rosenbaum, you and John Glover were fantastic in smallville and gelled so well even though your characters weren't nice at times you couldn't help but like your characters either brilliant acting from both of yous. X
I cant even begin to type as many words as I'd like to about this interview. It's just beautiful. Truly. Thank you gentlemen.
Such a great guest, great actor. ❤
Great to see you guys together again! Great podcast!
Rosey great job and thank you for being so gentle with John. He is a fascinating character.
Lionel was, without a doubt, my favorite character on Smallville. John Glover is the best! ❤
Lionel Luther was a great character and was played perfectly by John, you hated him from the start ,because you saw him walk over corpses and do anything to get what he wants, and then watch how he changes and becomes a friend, it was so great, great character development, thank you =)
John Glover is the best he was totally amazing in smallville I was even amazed when I saw how different he was in real Life love from UK
Mr. Luthor, you are awesome! loved the hell out of you in smallville! it was a perfect character done perfectly.
This was fantastic. Love seeing you two together
Paul Williams wrote many Carpenters songs, including both Rainy Days and Mondays as well as We've Only Just Begun.
The great John Glover.
Loved John Glover as Lionel, loved the chemistry between John and Michael.
John briefly spoke of his memory. Of course, people sometimes lose some as they age but I was curious if John had ever gotten COVID. Perhaps his memory troubles could be related; I had memory issues/brain fog for over a year after having COVID, two times.
Always love Glover. Such a talent, that man. Love the episode 100%.❤❤❤❤❤
I started this morning seeing the notification that you posted a new episode. I definitely love listening to this one.
John's performance in "Gremlins 2" still cracks me up. ("Think avuncular!")
I was going to play playstation but i saw this show posted and i had to see it, AMAZING ACTOR and the 2 best Luthors together again!
love this guy , a great actor and so real, just like a next door neighbor. and a real paper, my older friend is 82 , not digital paper for her shes old school , only the real paper will do , good to see john, thanks Michael and Ryan too
A masterful father and son duo from Smallville and which continues nowodays !❤❤❤❤ But in the good sense of the word !! Always a treat when you receive John Glover, Michael !! 👌💙💙💙
what a beautiful convo! thank you for this!
I'm really happy I stumbled across you again in life. Keep doing this. Keep being you. Keep searching inside. Great show man. John is an absolute legend
JOHN GLOVER! He's so iconic. I think Lionel may have been my fave character in Smallville. Loved him in Scrooged and especially Gremlins 2 as well. And a great lil scene in RoboCop 2! Oh and the devil in Brimstone! :O Oh and a great Riddler voice too!
There are two characters on TV that I think were perfectly cast.
John Glover as Lionel Luthor, and Louise Fletcher as Kai Winn.
Great episode!
39:01 Nowadays, with exposure on the Internet and people's perception that they can judge everything and everyone, it is very difficult not to disappoint someone, the standards are unreachable! Thank you for exposing yourself and for making the interviewees feel free to do the same even though they know they can receive criticism for everything!
John & Michael took Smallville to another level.
After his chuckle at 49:00 I really expected Glover to say "... Lex." :D
I could've sworn he was already interviewed months ago....but Lionel was one of my favorites; loved their dynamic. ❤️
Just saw the other podcast with John Glover! What a wise man, amazing actor with great stories to tell! Always a pleasure to hear him... Love from Argentina!
I have literally no idea why Lionel luthor wasn't Superman Canon.
I still don't. But do love John Glover. Extremely likable man!!
Great episode, it is always good seeing you two together.
Michael I love the things you’re telling @RealJohnGlover. If I could I would get a sky writer and say YOU ARE MORE THAN.
I would put a note everyday on his door and say YOU ARE MORE THAN
Glover is awesome. I always think of him as the voice of The Riddler on Batman The Animated Series. did such a good job and that version of Riddler will always be the Goat
Always a pleasure seeing John Glover. What a beautiful interview.
It's easy to get actors in a room together in 'podcast land' and then listen to them blow smoke up each other's ass for an hour....but here listening to 2 of my childhood heroes from a show that took over my young life for a few years was just heartwarming.
I loved the whole cast of Smallville, but John (god bless him) was always my scene stealer.
Bravo Michael for making this happen and love to you both.x
Lex, Lionel and Chloe were my favorite characters in Smallville, I hope someday you can have Allison in Talk Ville and in your podcast.