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@@First_last988I agree
bro there's an AI that summarizes youtube videos
Ok now imagine Yugopnik on Hasan's stream roasting random chatters
YESSS
A must
some ideas are so powerful they shouldn't even be uttered ^^.
@@cortexavery1324 Special Agent Holden will not stop at all costs to sabotage this 🤣
Would die for this
“I’m telling a doctor in Iraq to be a VTuber” GOT ME DEAD😭
I mean after this many episodes I don't think there's anything a regular listener would not expect from a doctor in Iraq, nothing strange here it's your problem my friend 😂
I'd watch an Iraqi doctor VTuber, no hesitation.
@@morganqorishchi8181 He would be under constant watch for his language involving testicles and anuses and foreign bodies, and I would be here for it.
someone call vshojo quick
I thought that capitalism was good but now I'm having SECOND THOUGHTS 😭😭
The fact that JT originally named his channel that way is quite ironic) Especially when you consider that in the beginning he was well, not about socialism at all.
*badum tss*
👁️👄👁️
BARS
Death
A turk and a Balkan in the same podcast , and they're peaceful somehow
Also , love Himboabi's laughter as always
XD
*A Turk, a Balkan and an Arab in the same podcast, and they're peaceful somehow.
@@hco4203 *A turk, a balkan, an arab, and a texan in the same podcast, and they're peaceful somehow.
*greek
Hopefully the recent big name guests like Felix, Boyboy and now Hasan will propel the podcast to new levels of popularity. 🙏
@@RealCybertron i also just think people get their podcasts in other places.
what about Vaush?
@@dustydata1540 🤮
@@RealCybertron remember that for a lot of people, the other format is easier to consume
If anything, I think it will serve as a nice gateway to spark interest in the podcast since it's more adequate for the algorithm to recommend (even accounting for left-wing unfavourability)
I came here because I know and like Hasan and JT's content, but Yugopnik really won my heart here from his analysis and hosting prowess. This was a fantastic collaboration and this encouraged me to check out the pod and hosts' channels I didn't know about :)
I hope Hasan's platform gives you guys a much deserved boost cause y'all have been killing it lately with the guests.
I'm waiting for the Deprogram Vtuber arch. It's unironically a great way to have your avatar with your characterizations or personalities and interact with audience that way, And as someone who enjoys this kind of thing, I think we miss a talking Lenin head.
^
The idea of Hasan trying to hook Yugopnik and Hakim up with Ironmouse fucking killed me.
Yess
@@BananaFlavouredPants that’s one IDF they’d support as well
@@BananaFlavouredPants imagine hakim ironmouse collab
its CRAZY how I've seen no announcement for this whatsoever. this is HASAN man
LETSGO I was so happy to see this in my feed 😄 awesome surprise
I knew it was going to happen just by a coincidence. Was watching a bit of hasan stream and he live on stream was like: "i need to go on deprogram one day. You know what? fuck it, I am writing to Ygopnik right now. Ok done, he will sort the rest out".
And then just complete silence about it until the podcast itself.
He doesn't deserve it
@@Remix2366 the question is not even about deserving anything but you sure seem like you need to unload something.
@@cortexavery1324 doesn't deserve to be called socialist. Doesn't deserve to be in the socialist community
The thought of Hasan introducing two Marxist-Leninists (who are respectively an Iraqi doctor and a ex-Yugoslavian man) to Ironmouse for the purpose of creating some VTuber avatars is making my day
Unrelated, but I'd like to point out that Dua Lipa is quarter Bosnian so it is in line with Yugopnik's theory. She is 5'8.
Cant wait for Vaush to create a 2 hour livestream hitpiece on Hasan for going on the “evil tankie”podcast
Vaush can go jump from the top of his own ego. He’ll never stop falling.
Can't wait for BadEmpanada's response to Hasan's response to Vuash's response to this episode.
2 hours of bad takes
@@alekz112 Once again, the capitalists sell the stream that'll be used to roast them.
@@alekz112 Hasan's best quality is that he very rarely acknowledges those guys' existence.
I'v been an anti-capitalist for now over 10 years. You guys are intertainment. You remind me that there is people like me all over the world and it makes me feels good. Thank you for that!
On est là !
Même si Macron ne veut pas
I always got the sense Hasan is a bit more radical than he lets on with his twitch streams and this episode did nothing to dispel that :)
i think he definitely knows the limits in order for him to not completely lose like the majority of the (especially american) public that’s been inundated with such anti-communist propaganda. he walks the line and i think it’s for the better
@@expropriationbarbie even when he's trying to keep himself "safe" enough for the normie audience people are still outraged that " SOCHIALIS MAN HAV HOUSE AND NO HUNGRI "
I realized that when he started praising Castro in one of his streams.
Ngl I was surprised that he could keep up with them. He seems very knowledgable
@@expropriationbarbie it’s not just a limit for his audience, it’s the limit for the glowies feds too. I remember that Hasan has talked about him and JT have some FBI files during the time that JT tried to request FOIA request on himself.
Iraqi adults going silent "this is going to somehow go back to us isn't it" on watching 9/11 on TV is way too much of a mood.
23:10
NEVER THOUGHT THIS COLLAB WOULD HAPPEN
Haha he said he was interested on doing it on one of his streams the other day!
@@poopoo-dk4hu (lol pee pee poo poo) I've been really busy w/ college and work so I barely have time to listen to the deprogram, let alone Hank Pecker :(
Azan and Hakim interacting is a dream come true
*Hakihm
Ottoman empire re-established
I've been dismissive of Hasan, but this has given me a much better insight into what he's about. Thanks.
incredible, would love to see you on the livestream at some point ❤
New HasanHead LETSGO
Hasan is pretty good. We need more left-wing voices on the mainstream
Pretty sure he dilutes and dumbs down his politics on his twitch because if he came out as a full on communist he would get cancelled or shut down because most of twitch is right wing and most of his viewers are soc-dems at best and still support US government propaganda against socialist countries
he's less nuanced than a lot of leftists on the internet are. because of that, he gets hate for being imprecise and wishy-washy. but that's by design, you'd easily scare off most people if you tried to just dump a shit ton of theory on them. he's a good entryway to leftism, and now that I've been here for a good few years, he's more just a fun streamer I can watch who will (almost) never have bad takes.
Delayed happy birthday, JT. And yes, by shifting the overton window to the left you already do a crucial job in feeding the cultural landscape necessary for a revolution. Paired with some direct contact with social inequality, it's pretty powerful and mobilizing.
Yugopnik meowing is not something I was prepared for going into this.
OwO
I love how Yugopnik mentioned Trainwreck's systems haha
what is that?
@@goutamboppana961 hasan had a 'debate' with trainwreckstv and train kept telling hasan to make a SYSTEM where wealth is distributed to the less fortunate. and hasan is saying he is literally describing charity and charity is not socialism. in short: train kept substituting the word charity with SYSTEM
@@JordanJumpin I think it's even dumber than that. The way Train described it, it sounded to me like he wanted Hasan to make a private insurance company owned by him for his twitch viewers where he pays for their insurance with the money he makes on twitch.
That's how fucked Train's brain has been by capitalism. He thinks Socialism is when "wealthy" Socialists make and pay for private insurances or something...
@@JordanJumpin ohhh ok
@@JordanJumpinTrue! Trainwrecks actually tried to meaningfully change the lives of his viewers and Hasan just.. said "so charity lul" and went back to flying private jets to burning man lmao
Let’s fucking gooo, I’ve been waiting for Hasan to come on the boys’ podcast. Hasan was my jump point into socialism which lead me to finding Hakim, then JT and Yugopnik, so really cool to see.
Oh i got the same order ^^.
that’s so cool! for me it was the opposite, i liked the others first individually before they made the pod and then i started watching hasan and starting loving his content and realizing he’s not how leftists portray him
This is why having "forward facing" Marxists with a large reach is so important. Online leftists can hand wring all they want, but the scores of young people de-radicalized from the right and radicalized to the left is huge, having easy entry points into an ideology that is so fundamentally antagonistic to what someone has been told their whole life is so important
i never even watch news and i thought i wouldnt like the new channel but im already hooked
Right! It's perfectly curated & also a fantastic entry point for lib family members 😂 I'm sending it to my mom & sister for sure.
I created a politics playlist for mom & random one for my sis. Been popping those vids in there. Trying to get my mom to get out of the grip of MSNBC/CNN & enlighten my sis on the basics I've learned.
First Thought is fantastic.
this podcast (and their own individual channels) + hasan make keeping up with the news so much less daunting and isolating. their sense of humor is so needed!
Finding that Hasan is on today’s episode, made my morning. Great conversation!
He’s a capitalist though
@@tapsunofficial Socialism is when poor then??
@@tapsunofficial how's that
@@goutamboppana961socialism is when no podcasts
We need a running tally of how many times Yugopnik says "etc. etc."
Bro thinks he's zizek
we must make a deprogram industrial complex of the three saying the same word multiple times in a single episode
We need merch of Yugopnik saying etc. etc.
@@morganqorishchi8181 New Merch Available: Yugopnik Saying etc. etc. and so on and so on
Get the "put cat ears on Yugo" fund started
You mean the car or Yugo himself?
@@minhducnguyen9276 Both
Hey, great episode!
As a brazilian ML, I loved when Rakim mentioned Jones Manoel. Here in my country we are having a great wave of socialist radicalization through social media, channels like "História Cabeluda", "História Pública" and "Assim Disse o João" are creating real, although relatively small change in brazilian culture. You guys should think of having some of them on. I think João Carvalho of "Assim Disse João" and Ian Neves of "História Pública" speak english fluently.
And if Rakim becomes a vtuber he should be a talking Lenin head in a busty anime girl body.
Hasan to Tankie pipeline activated
Edit: I am an ML, calm your genitalia
stop
cut it out
Imagine using “tankie” unironically
Chatter: "What's your view on Second Thought being a Tankie"
Hasan: "... I hope he drives a tank to your house, take a week off and think about how stupid you are as a person"
Slave of Isengard Wizard has no right to speak.
Never thought this would happen.
AZAN GET THEM ON YOUR PODCAST
Get them on stream, too! LETSGO
I remember it wasn't that long ago where they said if anyone wants it to happen then to hassle Hasan 😄 it worked!! lol
I love how there's three different levels of getting them in person, from easy to nightmare. The Yank is two states away in Texas, The Slav is deep in Slavic europe, The Doctor is halfway across the fucking planet in the middle east
@@JaseekaRawr he probably meant stream, my 70 year old aunt asked me “what’s a podcast?” I told her it’s anything from 1 nerd talking to the camera… or doing something while not talking to the camera, she said, “so it’s just a show on the internet”, I said “it could be, or not”. She then says “well then what’s streaming mean?” I said “it’s live and unedited, some streams are ALWAYS on,usually not planned, unless it’s actually just a stream of actual tv shows”. She was confused… I told her “you broadcast a tv program, cuz its sent thru the air, you stream a podcast cuz it’s sent thru a cord on the net.” That kinda helped til I told her that none of that is 100% set in stone and always true… she sighed and then… I swear.. she says “what does WOKE mean?” 💀 ☠️ 🪦… funny thing is that’s she’s about as woke as a 70 year old lady in Kentucky could be! Even tho she’s drowning in right wing rhetoric that she hears and doesn’t recognize as propaganda.
I tried to explain but didn’t get far , I eventually gave in and agreed that it’s just a label, but beyond that I don’t think she got it at all…and of course when I link her a 30 minute vid from “Then&Now” channel entitled “WOKISM” (which described the history and the the co-opting of the word very well) she literally says “I AM NOT watching some stupid CZcams thing for an hour!”
But she had just finished an hour of the stargate show and was settling in to watch another hour or 2 🤯
How do you send 2-4 hours watching the same old crappy series on reruns EVERYDAY, and then refuse to listen to 30 minute of educational content that’s actually entertaining…
People are hard to understand, but it’s also a hard world to understand, especially for old folks…
JT is least distant. So
I mean pod and stream go hand in hand guys. If they got to LA to do the pod ain’t no way they not on stream for an extended cut, ya know?
OMG I can't believe you invited a guy who killed Rosa Luxemburg! With his bare hands! 😱
And built a two million dollar mansion on her grave !?!?!?!
@@danielomar9712 which runs on the blood of the poor youtubers that he reacts to ??? 😱
@@danielomar9712 and also apparently is a flat earther
Some random guy replying to a comment on a CZcams short said he does so he doesn’t I’m not a complete dumbass okay
@@cursedcat6467 don't worry tovarish your brain isn't smooth
20 months sub to hasan, 18 months sub to second thought and much more of leftist youtube, 10 months ago I did volunteer work for the leftist party in Québec, and Im now a member of La Riposte Socialiste. so thank you guys very much
Thank you for doing what these guys dont
You're awesome comrade!!!
@@meinkanal7438 you are an insane person
hasan and hakim in the same room is enough third worldism to melt a french child
I like that "Happy Birthday to You" is universal.
believe it or not, it was actually in the public domain for a long time until some rando american corp tried to copyright claim it and even managed to collect 14mil$ in licensing revenue until their claim was dismissed and they had to pay it all back 🤣
That’s colonialism to ya
@@carlosdellerer1948 right. neoliberal monoculture, as Hasan points out often
🎶 it’s the American way 🎶
Yet we usually sing "Las Mañanitas" instead of "Feliz cumpleaños" here in Mexico.
Glad to hear Rogen's is only the second most popular podcast production company in Texas now
Hasan should get holden on his stream one day.
He hasn't got'em yet?
... *sigh*...
Who's Holden?
@@shanefoster2132 Holden deez nuts, dude!
@@shanefoster2132 you got your mom'd by special holden agents. Pathetic
Hasan radicalized me!! Glad to see the colab! ❤❤❤
As someone who’s family is from Hungary, I wish the carpathians had banter like the balkans do
“Everyone south of Britain is Balkan, and Brussels is the new Constantinople *sniff*”
@@Shimansajihaha Zizek
Technically you can join in, since Romania is counted in the Balkans and every Balkan country needs to have their main enemy nationality to exchange insults with
@@redlion45 nice LeBousky reference.
@@Shimansaji Danke, I'm here to fix the cable
“And so on and so on” channeling the true Balkan language lol
"I'm telling to a doctor in iraq to work on his anime voice"
I found this channel when someone under a Hasan video recommended it. Now Hasan is on THIS channel, the more leftist voices the better
I was just thinking that today is the day for a new episode! You gents read my mind and deliver perfectly on time👍
You see, Marx failed to consider anime girl vtuber advancing the cause of socialism.
Awww I was hoping Hasan would have been drawn as a character somewhere
same hahaha woulda been awesome but this was still incredible
they should have made a cut-out of him and put him in the background 🤭
@@mizjulio With cat ears
What a sick guest to have on great episode
Boys, I think it's a good idea to have a discussion about neurodiversity.
I enjoy the light-hearted humor on the subject, but I think it's time to have an actual constructive discussion about that intersection, as well as some latent ableism still present in a lot of leftist communities.
Honestly with the bro jokes I don't even know if this is where that conversation would be best held. They sure could USE that conversation, but I think it needs to be a guest appearance giving a more or less presentation-style discussion
It blows my mind how awkward hasan can be on mic with all of his deep experience being on mic, that being said nice guest and great way to keep growing
He's talked abt it before but like it's mostly bc he spent so much of his time practically talking to himself or his chat. He unintentionally became a shut-in lol
Oh god I’m about 20 minutes in and I’ve been surprised that I’m not cringing I guess I better brace myself lol
YO THAT FULL LEGNTH THEME FUCKING SLAPS
I'm sure my fellow ML's in the comments and on twitter will have a _very fine and normal reaction to the Hasan episode_
REEEE 🍾 socialist
Nah, most of them are fine. I personally can't wait to see Twitter arguing over how much Hasan became a Tankie Stalinist and how it fits their narative of him being pro Putin or some shit.
I am a ML and I love Hasan. He is very important to the online leftist scene. He normalises and gives legitimacy to socialism as a political system worth pursuing. He is the leftist equivalent to the Ben Shapiro's and shit. A twitch streamer with 40k viewers being an open socialist is very important.
in the age of Destinies and Vaushes, Hasan is a breath of fresh air
And the anarchist elements will also have a rage fit about TANKIE podcast with PROBLEMATIC individuals and RACE based jokes from the Balkan Slav.
Everyone should do a cooking video arc.
the crossover we all needed
No thanks. Not interested in fake leftist.
Hasan is a hypocrite
Glad to see little known creators like Hasan getting a spotlight on the show.
Health care from Hakim, camera advice from JT, and alcohol recommendations from Yugopnik all for $10,000 a month
Oh my god the mad lads actually did it.
this is what we've been waitin for sick to see him come on that for this and all your stuff to the both of you guys
This was awesome! So glad y’all were able to get hasan on, I’m so excited for this podcast to reach more and more people! You guys are awesome 💪🏼
excellent episode as always and that outro is AMAZING!!!
The collab I’ve been waiting for for the longest. Great episode👏🏽👏🏽
According to wikipedia, Dua Lipa's grandmother is Bosniak so Yugopniks Balkans Race Science was correct lol.
Yeah that makes sens.
time stamp?
"I would go with a anime girl with jiggle physics." *Suris sweats nervously as his market share shrinks.*
I think that this "skin color" conversation was generated in the US. It was never an issue or even something to comment on in the Mediterranean (where I come from) for centuries. Then, I guess the Anglo-Saxons needed to separate people in manners other than class and invented this "great concept".
it was directly related to class 🤔 it was a reaction
Mediterranean did not witness slavery in the same way the us did
im from the Mediterranean too "morocco"
Huge pull for the podcast, love to see it!
I feel so happy when I found out Hakim is Iraqi that actually knows about Iraq and is a political youtuber, it makes me happy I coupd relate with him
Mashallah we need the GOAT badempanada tho
Trueeeee
Yes, plz
he'll be a guest soon Inshallah.
Yes. Hakim, yugopnik and BE 3 way.
BE: "They have to invite me, I can't just show up"
His comments: just show up, dew it
Never saw this podcast coming and I’m so stoked for it!
First Thought is fire thanks for all the amazing work comrades.
Great show.. I enjoyed everybody's perspective. keep up the great work, guys
Great convo! Love to see more people on the left do crossovers and grow each other's audiences to spread the message as much as possible. Thank you guys
I'VE BEEN WAITING ON THIS COLLAB SINCE THE BEGINNING
I've been asking for this for months, thank you my boys
i’ve been waiting for this for way too long! i’m so happy you guys invited him AND that he came on 😸
now this is what i come to this podcast for, lamajun discussions. my go to is parsley, labneh, and garlic for lamajun toppings, also throw in some olives when im feeling ambitious or want to impress someone.
that or just lifet, pickled turnips
Just subbed, can't wait to see what you guys do next!
My favorite four in one podcast, unbelievable
Been waiting for this for so long
Heeeell yeah, brothers. Super excited for this episode
This was a great episode. I love the chemistry
I dont feel bad saying this because Hasan has a cool job and shit like a house but hes way more thoughtful and interesting than his reputation suggests. I thought he was another Vaush.
I'm glad you don't think that anymore...
Hes still a shallow dumbass lmao@@jrock71
To the point regarding if your content really rouses or placates the people, I would say as a spectator that education and theory should affect material aspects of our daily lives (I think Mao talks about this in "On practice"); hearing theory, understanding history and analizing things from a marxist perspective from you guys not only gives me the tools to have more productive discussions with other people and plant the seeds of class consciousness, but also agitates me and makes me angry about our current material living conditions, while giving me an explanation about it.
If you go back to the seeds of the russian revolution, you always end up on the marxists discussions regular people had on bars. Like, theres no concrete point where you had no class consciousness and then suddenly there it was. The small discussions, theory reading, lectures and random chats about the topic had to happen; then people got angry, realized what was happening and both started to learn more and then agitate.
I see content like this as those random bar chats; its less heavy theory bigbrain hours because of the entertainment factor; Hakim talking about balls, the memes, shittalking about the US both in a real and funny way, live chats, merch and all that helps cement all the theory and agitation in more relatable terms and thats why I feel energized in my actual life to take theory into practice.
What practice have you started since listening to The Deprogram? Do they support or promote or work with any communist organizations?
@@Zayden.Marxist I run with 4 other guys the biggest socialist organization on my city. We've marched with unions and other groups, we've protested our government for leftist reforms and we do comunnity work on a weekly basis, just to begin with.
Seeing a Serbian, Iraqi, American, and Turk on the same podcast is unreal
Im so exited to see this video! Lesgooo!
Hakim with a Lenin vtube would go crazy
A Turk, an Arab, a Yugoslav, and an American, the set up for a funny joke or a great podcast. Why not both?
Great episode as always! Much respect & solidarity
Hearing Jones Manoel mentioned in this one made my day improve tremendously. Thank you for the episode!!
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I crap on company time.
Boss makes a dollar I make a dime, Hakim is talking about parsley and thyme
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, yet I only complain 'bout streamers who earns just fine. 🤓☝
Honestly, considering my cringe uncle is a full on rightwing propagandist, Hasan shouldnt feel too bad about Cenk...
so the Turkish lord finally decided to face the slavs and Arabs at his gates
i have been WAITING for this
As a brazilian, the mention to Jones Manoel caught me by surprise. He's brilliant, and he's being of great value on the radicalization of many here in Brazil.
Do you know what the title of the article they mention is? Couldn't find it.
“I’m telling a doctor in Iraq to do an anime voice”
Lmfao
46:10
BRASIL MENTIONED
Not them all singing Happy Birthday at the same time ❤️😭❤️
Waited so long for this
THIS WAS SO SWEET TO LISTEN TO I LOVE YOU GUYS
Super cool episode, really neat!
Here thanks to Hasan's stream, and I just wanted to say y'all's outro music is great
used to have lahmanchun (dunno how to write it in english from memory) every week! basic kebab shop, parsley, lemon, all the onion. i'd happily go to just get lamanchun, turkish delight, and baklawa.
I have a similar arc. Moved to US from UK in the '80s. Finally at 50 back in UK. Cannot express how happy I am to be home. The US is insane now. I sound crazy when trying to explain my American experience. Utterly hellish.
I have been waiting for the episode
8:06 Hakim says bring back the kitchen streams Hasan!!