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Relaxing Viking Nordique - Ean Grimm
Heartbeat - Alexander Nakarada
Dancers in the Fire - Jonny Easton
The Dark Crystal Cover - L'Orchestra Cinématique - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I am still salty with netflix for canceling the show, it was my favorite show on the platform. I know it wasn't as succesful as it could've been, but they really should have give it at least a chance of two seasons with heavier marketing. It didn't have a chance to grow an audience, I mean it took me some months to watch it and I loved it. It was critically acclaimed and no doubt a lot of new people would have joined for the second season hearing that this highly rated show was getting more episodes. Besides... a lot of money was already invested in making all of the puppets, props and sets. I highly recommend watching the docummentary on the making on the show just to get your mind blown with the incredible amount of work that it took.
No series gets settled in with audiences or finds it's stride in just one season I fear there'll be fewer decent series with production companies that are more focused on more immediate audience response.
@@GafftheHorse Yes I agree... I mean by the time I got to the show, the trial period had already passed for it to be cancelled, which was revealed to be just a couple of months. By the time it got all the recognitions and accolades that promoted the show, it was already cancelled.
I mean really ok... let us say that they do want to cancel it no matter what, I still think they should have had a second season just to use all the money they invested and to wrap up the story with some notice from netflix, maybe even with a reduced budget or with fewer episodes.
Now netflix is struggling to keep subscribers because they lack meaningful content.
I really really hope they bring it back, or that the jim henson company secures funding from some other place to finish up the story. Get it off from netflix if they need to, this is the only tv show where i would honestly just buy the blurays if it is not available on netflix.
It has been a problem for decades now, that shows get cancelled before they find their footing - yes, the stations want to make money and all, but I think pre 95 there was a lot more leway.
And with streaming it only got worse, cancelling shows before a season is complete.
I would have loved an ongoing series, too. It did such a great job of staying true to the theme and mood of the original.
@@dr.c7679 I think it improves everything that was great with the original while ditching some of the things that didn't work so much, like the super slow pacing.
They did a great job overall, and was so refreshing watching such beautiful practical effects in a see of ugly cgi monsters.
I wish Jim could see how much Dark Crystal and Labyrinth have meant to people over the years. I'm watching Age of Resistance again, and I think he have been *very* proud of it.
me and my shrine of the dark crystal and labyrinth books, tarot card, poster etc. even based my college textiles project on the dark crystal
I'm a 41 year old man who still listens to the 'Gelfling Song' when I need some peace and quiet.
Isn't it disappointing that this masterpiece was dropped for glorified child porn on Netflix. I would have preferred another season of puppet murder.
@@alexcaplan9271 me too. i imagine it would have been about the garthim wars which wouldve been amazing to see it in the show. i have the manga for it but im yet to read it. now that ive finished my exams i havw a lot of free time so ill be able to read them
I don't have ANY friends who don't at least have an opinion on Dark Crystal and/or Labyrinth ..
But opinions themselves are never indifferent Infact always either adoring adoration or seething hatred. I have never met a casual fan.
It’s nice “The Dark Crystal” has gained a large cult following after it’s less than desirable release into theaters
I wasn't born yet to see it in theaters. I'd have been excited to see it in theaters had I taken part of that era.
I was taken to see E.T. when I was a child, but it was sold out. This was still on and not sold out so I ended up seeing this instead. I remember enjoying it, but I don't recall it being a really big hit.
It was pretty ahead of its time.
The Dark Crystal is one of my most favorite movies. As always, Jim put his heart and soul into it. He had such mastery and vision of his films, and made you fall in love. I miss his movies so much. He was so unique and wonderful.❤ Kira and Jen are my granddaughters names.
I got to see it in the theater I think I was around 9 or 10 years old, it blew me away. Before the netflix show I've turned quite a few younger people on to it, I watched it couple years ago and it's still amazing, a masterpiece of creativity.
This movie scared the hell out of me as a child but as a teen and adult, I am always entranced by how much thought and artistry went into the making of this masterpiece. I truly think this was Jim Henson’s magnum opus and where his heart truly lay.
It indeed has it's scary moments but I still loved this movie as a kid. I can't remember how many times I watched it (my mom recorded it on VHS for me). I even made a skeksis out of paper magé when I was 9, my mom made the clothes. Jim Henson was a genius.
@@MrAKbass he once said that fear is healthy way of life.
And he right.
I always love the one part where the Skesis gets burned, and when his Mystic half explodes into fire the others are like "huh. anyway" like they dont even give a shit. its hilarious
I wouldn't say that they didn't care. They just knew there was nothing they could do so they moved on.
I dunno about hilarious. Poignant, maybe. The Skeksies are all greed, vain and materialistic self-interest, the Mystics care about the world and everything else but themselves and have no sense of preservation or care what happens to themselves. They are literally the opposite, and it shows how that's not entirely a good thing.
A Darker version of the Dark Crystal. Now this should be interesting.
how much more bleecker can I get LOL 😆
@@ScribblestoScreen WAIT Is The Sequel Being Announced??????
@@haileeraestout5567 we got the prequel
The thought frightens me to my core
THE DARKER CRYSTAL
This film as aged incredibly well. I wager it will outlast a lot of the cgi bonanza films currently being peddled.
Good craftmanship is timeless. Cheap effects get old every 2 years
If Jim Henson was still alive I wonder what his latest puppet movies would be like today
@@liriomusic4391
CGI may not be as good as practical effects, but to say it is cheap is an insult to FX artists. You may not be a GCI artist yourself but you cannot be this ignorant and say it is cheap, implying that it is easy and that anyone can do it. Speaking from experience and interaction with real people who actually work in the industry, CGI is not, I repeat, CGI is NOT cheap! The time and effort to render a single character per scene and shot is an absurdly long time.
TLDR: CGI isn’t cheap so stop making up excuses to shit on not only your biased disdain towards a simple tool but your lack of consideration and ignorance as well! Shame on you
@@redseagaming7832he would’ve eventually gone the digital route too. All these artists from this era were all very excited to expand their imagination through digital implementations. If anything I would imagine he sons studios would be very different if he did survive and went on to bring the company into the next century
I think that's going a bit far. I love the MCU and it's absolutely true that all different kinds of movies have their place. You don't HAVE to put down something else just to try and make your point or your favorite media look better, you know. So, no, you're being very unfair. The Dark Crystal is absolutely fantastic, still holds up brilliantly today.... But audiences are ALSO sometimes in the mood to watch Barbie, The Super Mario Bros Movie, and Deadpool & Wolverine, and it's not fair of you to be negatively judging them for that. Everything deserves the chance to appeal to and resonate with the audience those things are for without having them insulted by an elitist.
The Italian dub actually has the Skeksis shout "Haakskeekah", yet the rest of the dialogue is in Italian. It's almost as if the dub artists wanted to pay tribute to the original version.
EDIT: Yet more clues. The Italian dub has skekSil say to Jen that the prophecy was what caused "Gelfling slaughter", a line taken directly from the workprint rather than the theatrical cut, where it was sanitised to "all this trouble". Furthermore, when skekOk sees the Mystics march into the castle, he shrieks "Oh no, not urZah!", a name that's never heard in the theatrical cut.
You think they somehow got a cut where they didn't remove that line?
I remember something similar happened with the first fist of the north star animated film, where Italy somehow got a completely uncut and uncensored version of the film on VHS when even the original Japanese release had to tone down the violence with blue filters and such.
@@ginogatash4030 I think what happened was that there was a genuine desire to honour the workprint version, because the "haakskeekah" you hear is from the Italian voice actors, not an undubbed line.
Also, when the Chamberlain talks to Kira and Jen at the Gelfling ruins, he straight up says "Prophecy caused gelfling slaughter", a line translated directly from the original workprint. In the English theatrical cut, he says the much less harsh "Prophecy caused all this trouble".
@@samrizzardi2213 I find that hard to believe, MAYBE it's possible that there was a huge nerd fan of the director working on the dub, but I think it's more likely that they sent an alternative version of the film by mistake, that sort of thing has happened before to different films and the director of the film isn't particularly more popular in Italy as far as I know, maybe I'm wrong or we're both wrong, but to me a production mistake seems like the more plausible explanation if I had to guess.
@@ginogatash4030 accidentally sent a version no one has ever heard of before and the amount of crap about this mobile online is now near infinite vs people loving something that is from an omega popular creator. You are thinking of something less likely, not more.
@@xBINARYGODx he's not that well known outside of the US, or rather the stuff he did is pretty well known but he himself isn't that mainstream I rarely ever hear anyone say his name or talk about him specifically outside of the English speaking demographic, productions can sometime fuck things up, is it really that unlikely they sent a version of the film where they didn't fully remove all the weird noises in the audio by mistake and the actors just worked based on that audio track? it seems a little too random if that's the only change they did, your theory depends on having people in the dubbing studio actually knowing about the author and early cuts of the film themselves, which isn't impossible but it's really hard for that to happen.
40 years! 1982 will always be remembered very fondly for debuting many classics that year!
The Dark Crystal
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial
Blade Runner
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn
Poltergeist
The Thing
Conan The Barbarian
TRON
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
The Last Unicorn
The Secret of Nimh
Creepshow
Oh wow, that _was_ a good year.
6 of my favorite films in that list, I also debuted that year. lucky to have grown up with this
1982 was definitely an awesome year! 👍
I made sure my kids have the pleasure of watching many of these. Walmart DVD/Blueray bins has them on occasion for $5.00 or less.
Am I the only one that was horrified by ET?
I remember watching The Dark Crystal as a kid, and I fell in love with the movie. I later did some deep research into the backstory behind the movie, and found out that there was an entire mythology revolving around the planet known as Thra and its three suns. The number 3 and triangles were strongly featured throughout the movie.
Same it's one of a kind. Fell in love with this movie as a kid and love it even more now after finding out what all actually went into making this gem.
It goes way deeper than that... you should keep looking.
@@theshadylady1982 Hollywood back then was darker than today. Now it's just sick. Occult was a serious matter now There's to many blind alleys. 3⚠
Not sure if this has been commented upon, as there’s a ton of comments. But I’m a film editor and have been around long enough to cut actual film on a flatbed editor. Those vertical sliding black lines that occur on the workprint around where a later dissolve will be is actually the editor using a black wax pencil to mark all the frames over which an intended dissolve will later be added in an optical pass process.
Sorry for the horrid run-on sentence.
@@ClayLiford No problem! Thanks for sharing all that info, I wasn't aware of how that all worked. How do they do a fade with film anyway? do they just start rubbing out parts of the image and then tape two reels together?
What I loved about this film(Dark Crystal being my 3rd fav franchise out of 10) is one of the few dark aspects you can have with fantasy. It came at a time when not even thing that was considered adult or conventional for all audiences to watch didn't hinder a runaway imagination, this movie didn't require celebrities voice talents, annoying side kicks, or songs written to be implanted in your mind 24/7. Dark Crystal literally and visually take you to "Another world, another time, in the age wonder" An analogy to the late 70s to 2000s when fantasy and art could be taking and enjoyed not forced to be best of the year like todays media. Childrens entertainment at the time didn't focus on censoring rather experiencing.
which are your top 2?
@@Smoug Transformers, and Godzilla.
I love that Frank Oz's voice for Ogra is just Yoda
I know! I laughed way too hard at that. I can just imagine "Heal the crystal, you must. Hmm?"
@@lorigoshert6667 I think George Lucas might have had words.
Or Grover.
Yoda looks like an Old Gelfling
Yoda, Miss Piggy, Cookie Monster- you can never un-hear it.
Every time I hear Yoda I expect him to start yelling about cookies...
I've never gotten over Jim's passing. I loved almost everything he did. That's saying something because his career had a very long span. I especially love the idea that if you don't have a punchline, just blow up the muppet.
He accomplished a lot, but still died too young; too soon 😔
@@ericjohnson6634 "The truth is, I miss you, you were gone too soon. You were like watching a beautiful sunset...at noon." - Stan Lee, _Epic Rap Battles of History_
You can't get more high fantasy than the dark crystal.
We need a video game adaptation
@@Stylez-13 Like an open world game? What type of game fits this story?
What about dark fantasy?
@@roberthintz4017 what about it?
@@andrerobinson3233 Do you not get more dark fantasy than The Dark Crystal?
I really liked Age of the Dark Crystal by Netflix. It really expanded the story of the world and I was sad when I heard it was canceled
Well, we all know the ending.
Netflix cancelled it for their shitty originals
Weren't we all?!
I was too. Stupid Netflix.
Someone neeeds to make season 2
Dark Crystal went from a box office bomb, to now be regarded as a Fantasy Film Masterpiece, worthy of mention alongside other great fantasy works like Lord of the Rings.
Dark Crystal was ahead of its time.
I've only seen this movie once, as a young adult, but I can still recall being completely blown away by the artistic effort that went into it. I'm glad to be able to learn more about how it was made! Thank you for that.
The extras on the DVD tells/shows over 90% more detail.
Have you watched the prequel show on netflix? I would say that it is even better than the movie with crazier art and still mostly practical effects.
@@diegog1853 I have not! That sounds delightful! Thank you for informing me of it.
@@OlyChickenGuy No problem, it is my favorite show on the platform, I'm always glad to get people into it, let me know what you think.
@@diegog1853 If I can dig up this comment, let alone recall having this conversation by the time I have the opportunity to see it, I will most certainly let you know what I think. :3
I knew that Jim Henson had experience making darker Muppet based properties; for example, the Wilkins Coffee commercials in the 60s. The Dark Crystal felt perfect for kids to challenge themselves with more grim family films. Unnerving, fascinating, and devoid of being too lighthearted.
jim was a neighbour in hampstead in the 70s.
he used to let us children wander around the muppet workshop.
he was a true visionary.
He sold muppets to Disney and maintained some ownership and control with funding so he can make more projects but then he mysteriously died and Disney got everything muppets
Must have been very cool
I hope at some point, Dark Crystal will be revisited and reworked for a new audience. It was incredibly disappointing to have Dark Crystal resistance canceled after a season. But knowing what happens to the Gelflings in later years, it is probably for the best we don't witness the horror of the Gelfling genocide.
I assume they were going have the Gelfings have a pocket of survivors that hide away from the Skeksis as the finale, so it's not Jen and Kira trying repopulate the entire planet themselves.
It should have a whole expanded world and multi media.
The showrunners of the show said there was going to be more hope for the Gelflings than anyone would think if the series would continue. Also, it could be renewed on another streaming service.
@@Lastjustice yeah that is what I assumed too
@@Lastjustice maybe that’s what they were setting up for with the cave gelfling clan
As smart as Jim was I cant believe he thought having all the different characters basically speak gibberish would make a well received childrens movie.
The Dark Crystal was one of the few movies that had such a major impact on me growing up. Even now, it's one of my all time favorite dark fantasy movies.
So awesome, Im so glad to see this movie finally start getting the love it deserves, this is Jim's greatest artistic contribution to the world hands down, I got to see the puppets they used in the film at an exhibit in Atlanta and they are true works of art
One of them, anyway. You've also got the Sesame Street characters, The Muppet Show, Fraggle Rock, and Labyrinth as contenders.
It showed Henson could make a more adult story.
Fun Fact: Netflix employees risked their lives entering a burning building to save the original Henson puppets from a fire that ended up destroying the entire warehouse
finally? it's been getting love for decades 💜
I know Jim Henson all my life for the Muppet Show. I didnt knew Dark Crystal existed, since i first saw on Netflix Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance. In a heartbeat i got hooked and i fell in love with everything in it. A complete work of art with so beautiful story, loveable characters, even the bad ones (i worship Chamberlain and Skexis in general).
Then i found out the movie. And i was so full of joy. What a masterpiece! I am very frustrated with the fact Netflix cancelled these series. I was looking forward to see again Gelflings, Skexis in new stories, but when money talks.... What an incredibly genius, smart, beautifull piece of art!
I loved this film as a kid. It didn't hold your hand and just thrust you into its world. Labyrinth was another classic in a similar way.
Jim was not only a true artist but a true genius I love the Dark Crystal I need to get the DVD no humans on screen which is good it's sad Jim is no longer with us.
For some reason seeing it in black and white would make the movie creepier
Definitely! It would give you the feeling that it was something made in the 1930s or something.
Loved the dark crystal and the Age of Resistance. Anyone remember Fraggle Rock's "Terrible Tunnel" episode? What a creative way this guy introduced overcoming fear to young kids. So many subconscious lessons learned in his shows. Where did this kind of creativity go? Bring it back, please.
I love it, I absolutely love this movie. A classic from my childhood and genuine art. It's so unapologetically honest and just dark enough, and it's certainly the most masterful pure puppet work I have ever seen. They didn't need CGI back then -- this was pure talent and imagination, and a hell of a lot of work.
Totally agree. You need that level of darkness, in my opinion, in order for their to be any sort of real impact when the main hero finally overcomes it
@@BattleBladeWarrior there*. realistically though, heroes can't always win... In my opinion
@@inaminute1826 Totally agree. I actually like it when movies show a character that isn't able to save everyone, or the mission goes sideways, etc. Cuz you can have the best intentions and the best training, but that doesn't mean you will always succeed.
@@BattleBladeWarrior yes. And further more I don't believe in things being so black and white , so to speak. Alot of grey area in life. So the "sides" I'm on varies. but more ofter I'm on the "good guy" side🙂 well a good example would be I'd beat up a pedophile 😂 but I wouldn't call myself a hero.
@@inaminute1826 hahaha hey, nothing wrong with that. And its true, all too often the world tries to paint everything as one side or the other, but I think a lot of us exist in that grey zone
This was my favorite movie as a kid... I watched It so many times
This movie was so amazing, it really shaped my childhood. Not only have I rewatched i a lot as a kid, I still rewatch it as I'm older every now and then lol Which is more I can say for these current movies that are just 1 hit wonders. I'm so happy that a series have came out, I hope it continues forever
I was watching Dark Crystal a lot as a kid the movie gave a sense of wonder and discovery sadly a movie like this could never be green lit today because the movie series want to do nothing but remakes and sequels instead of something new
"This land was once green and good.... Until the Crystal shattered."
The same 25 million budget as the latter Labyrinth in 1986. But this inspired a Netflix production of a prequel of this story just three years ago.
The Labyrinth had a sequel story created in a Manga format by Jake Forbes
And hopefully if the rumors are true we are getting a direct Labyrinth 2 movie in the future since this Alvarez guy has been working on it since 2018
I just wish they would do more of the age of resistance and conclude it. This is an awesome world
This film came out 4 years before I was born, but wow its a masterpiece I still watch it every few months, I know people in their 20s who love the film too its truly a cult classic, it inspired me to learn to play the ocarina as a small child, I drove my parents mad with jens song till I learnt other tunes
The Dark Crystal was one of my favourites as a child, still is, up there with Labyrinth and A Neverending Story.
I can still hardly believe that The Dark Crystal was written and directed by the same guy who created Sesame Street.
Everybody's got to start somewhere.
@@davidjames579 It's just that Sesame Street is cheery and happy-go-lucky. In contrast, The Dark Crystal is dark, mysterious, and gruesomely detailed. That's way different from Jim Henson's usual projects.
Henson did not create Sesame Street. The show was created by a collaboration of several writers/producers in the sixties. Henson was hired to provide the Muppet segments. His style did come through in at least some segments, especially the mostly entertainment parts, but he wasn't the primary creative force behind the show.
@Johanobesus Fatjohn thank you, I was just going to say that Joan Ganz Cooney and Jon Stone deserve the lion's share of credit for shaping Sesame Street, although it was a huge collaboration.
Also, Jim was never a children's puppeteer, even in his early days. If you read his bio, he tried very hard not to be tarred with that brush. Sesame Street was such an important show though, coming right at the height of the civil rights movement, that he truly believed he and his team could make a difference. Same with creating Fraggle Rock years later.
@@davidjames579 Not that you're dissing the greatest children's show of all time?
This movie scared the crap out of me. I remember seeing about half of it when I was little before sobbing in terror and having to leave the theater with my mom. As an adult, I tried to watch it a few years back when it was re-released, and I literally had a panic attack in the theater. At least that time I *almost* made it to the end of the movie.
The Darker Crystal: 2 Dark 2 Crystal
The Dark Crystal 3: Revenge of The Skeksis.
The Dark Crystal 4: Kingdom of the Crystal Crystal.
The Dark Crystal 5: Gelfling's Endgame.
The Dark Crystal 6: Rise of the Skeksis
Crystal 7.
THIS MOVIE IS A RARE JEWEL!!!
I REMEMBER SEEING IT IN THE 80' s.
EVERYBODY, CHILDREN AND ADULTS WHERE EQUALY AMAZED BY IT'S
"LIFE AND NATURALITY"
I AM A HAPPY OWNER OF A DVD COPY
GREETINGS FROM BRASIL
I can remember seeing a video copy when we still had movie rental buildings, but didn't rent it because it showed mainly the Skeksis, so my first introduction to the story as a child was a picture book that displayed Jen and Kira, falling in love with it because the 'fairies' were different than the Tinker Bell motifs. Still have the book to this day! Then, I rediscover the original movie on Netflix. Fell in love with it the first minute, and I wondered why I didn't grab this movie as a kid! I would've loved it as I love the prequel series and the aftermath comics of 'sevety-five years later'. Beautiful story, phenomenal artwork! Glad Jim bought back this beautiful gem! ^^
Yesterday I saw The dark Crystal for first time, and Im a 80s girl. How i never see before? Was a beautiful experience.
wow!!! AWESOME!
Dude this was my favorite childhood movie!!!
The funny thing is the language barrier that needed to be in the original film as Henson intended could have been solved with subtitles.
I agree, It could have helped. But the Washington DC test audience thought that even subtitles were too distracting.
I have loved this movie since I was a little girl.. I still love this movie today. The only part that really bothered me even when I was a kid was at the beginning when the original emperor his face falls apart when he dies. Apart from that I love the movie.
Cool! :)
That was one of my favorite scenes, myself! XD That and when the other skeksis seemed to cannibalize him afterwards.
That freaked me out too!
I was a kid when my mom took me to see this movie. Parents in the 80s thought this was a child friendly film... it was NOT... NOT for children under 12... To this day this film gives me uneasy shivers in my spine because I saw it when I about 7 years old.
Same here. I was 6. Nowadays, I'm so desensitized to scary movies and horror that pretty much nothing scares me, but just the thought of this movie makes me uneasy because things in it (mostly the Skeksis) creeped me at such a young age.
disagree, it's fine for most small children, it just has a couple of mildly scary bits. Mental bubblewrap is not healthy.
13:02 Frank Oz finding a middle ground between Ms Piggy and Yoda there.
Love it. This movie fascinated and frightened me as a kid. I’m so glad people appreciate it now.
I got to see it in the theater I think I was around 9 or 10 years old, it blew me away. Before the netflix show I've turned quite a few younger people on to it, I watched it a couple years ago and it's still amazing, a masterpiece of creativity.
I am turning on notifications for when this comes out! I love this movie so much, I’m a dark Crystal fan for life!!
I remember as a kid watching the dark crystal in the cinema. It has left a print on me i will take to the grave. I love the film so much even to this day it still looks great. Epic !
Age of Resistance is a fucking masterpiece and I'm BEYOND SALTY that Netflix cancelled it. If anything deserves AT LEAST 2 seasons, its that. They claimed there wasn't enough appeal but everyone fucking loved it. My hopes that it will happen some day. I usually say wrap a show up within 1-3 seasons, but this can't be concluded the way we left off, WE NEED MORE DARK CRYSTAL.
One of my favourite childhood movies.
My sister was and still is terrified of the Sketsis! If she gives me grief I just have to do the chamberlain’s whine and she freaks out 😂
such a lovely man, his film will hold a deep place in my heart forever.
For some reason, when I watched the making of documentary, I thought that Brian Froud did the illustrations and Jim created a story around them.
This film had such an influence on me. As kids my friend and I used to draw panelled cartoons based on Fizgig and his world. Such an imaginative movie. I love it.
Really interesting. I've seen the cut scenes from various media from the old VHS onward over the years. I think that the one point where the original worked slightly better was in the Trial By Stone scene. The original script had SkekUng challenge SkekSil, but the English language cut reversed it, which didn't make much sense seeing how weedy the Chamberlain was in comparison to the Garthim Master.
What a great video. Easily the best one you made yet. The Dark Crystal is my favorite movie and I am so glad to see someone covering the lost media related to this masterpiece. I honestly agree with your opinion on the original cut. While there are some extended scenes that I would have loved to see in the film's final cut, I think The Dark Crystal would not be the same movie we have all come to love. Still, it would be nice to see a completely polished version of the extended cut, maybe as an optional special feature like the star wars 2006 DVDs did with the second special feature disc containing the original.
I only discovered this film three years ago, right before "Age of Resistance" was even announced, and fell in love with it and the world of Thra immediately. The story is pretty darn bleak (the Skeksis nearly killing the entire Gelfling population a century before, the trial by stone, Kira getting stabbed) and I've found some fascination regarding the logistics of what comes before and after it. ("Age of Resistance" ended on a triumphant military victory, but we all know that can't last. Not to mention just what are Jen and Kira supposed to do with themselves after restoring the Crystal and sending the urSkeks packing? The proposed "Power" sequel/comic has hundreds of Gelfling running amok ala "AoR," which would imply J&K, ahem, "boinking," which just seems weird to me; they're practically first cousins, for Aughra's sake!) In the abscence of any significant Thra-related news, I'll happily tune in to you for enough illumination to light the triple suns. I presume you're working off the 1978 "The Crystal" pitch brochure?
Also check out labyrinth. Not as dark as dark crystal but still amazing nonetheless.
how do you figure they are first cousins? Absolutely nothing in the story ever implies or eludes to that. Neither of them know their families.
Jen is Stone in the Wood descent and Kira looks more Vapra or Grottan, i know that we can have fan theories regarding the romance between Rian and the lady gelflings in Age but there isn't really any canon to confirm familial relation between Jen and Kira, as for the graphic novels, where did the other gelflings come from during their reign?
There is zero indication that they're related, how do you get that they're "practically first cousins"?
Inbreeding is still going to be a serious issue though. Most small populations consist of hundreds of people originally unrelated to one another, and the minimum population to avoid any inbreeding at all is 5,000, so... two people seems like there's gonna be a lot of inbreeding. At the very least, their kids are gonna have to have sex with each other. So unless there's other gelflings scattered here and there that they don't know about yet... yeah...
@@Swindle1984 i choose to believe more gelflings appeared magically sort of like how augra was born. I mean, the crystal is fixed, so
the original would probably be like dark souls where you have no fucking clue what's going on until you read the wikia
When I first played Dark Souls, I was ultimately confused on the storyline until I actually did read the wiki and asking my fiance who played it a lot explain it.
“Could be anywhere then” one of my favorite lines as well lol
I would love it if u reviewed Jim Hensons' The Storyteller. It's the best thing he ever did but no one seems to remember and the darkest thing based on Grimms Fairytales. I think you will love it. The acting, cast, script by Anthony Mingella and production values as just still amazing now. John Hurt as the Storyteller. Sean Bean/Paul Beateny/French and Saunders/Miranda RIchardson/Jane Horrocks/Joly Richardson/ BRendan Blethen/Bop Peck/Jonathan Price. And it's only on CZcams to buy in a low HD format. This needs to be 4k restorationed and HDR'd now.
I managed to snag dvds but it is definitely worthy of a hi def Blu ray release
i remember my dad had shown me this movie, 2005-2008, and i had 100% loved it. talking about how kids had no idea what was going on, i didnt need to. I remembered the Uru years later and scowered the internet to find the movie again.
It wasn't really darker, just less clear in a way that hurt the narrative. Good world building requires knowing when to show and when to tell. The working version just had too much of the former. It's ok for the audience to wonder why something is happening, it's not ok for them to wonder what is happening. I'm glad they found a good balance, because I love this film.
The world building in the dark crystal universe is incredible
The original concept is great. The ego and the id, separated entities yet living in the same “castle”. Wonderful, easy to grasp allegory.
Not until Avatar has the creativity of the world of the Dark Crystal been matched.
Im pretty sure James Cameron took the Dream Fasting for his own Na'vi bonding
@@ReidGarwin Holy crap, I forgot about that.
@@AlexGarcia-ze4yg i don't have a definite factual source for that but it's very similar
@@ReidGarwin There's actually lots of similarities.
I think Avatar was greatly inspired by The Dark Crystal. 👍
He bought back the rights for his own him for $15 million, mad respect!
I remember seeing this movie in the theater and I really liked it. I remember A lot of people I know that’s saw it not feeling the same way .they hated it., my dad and mom took my little brother and sister to see it. My mom said my father kept falling asleep. And my little brother and sister couldn’t follow the movie in fact when I try to explain it to them they didn’t want to hear it .they hated it.
I've had a theory after learning the skesis spoke their own language at first and test audiences didn't like it so well. The Chamberlain is the only one to interact with the gelflings and originally spoke broken English since they had their own language. But when they had to be rerecorded they just left the Chamberlain as is leaving him with this strange speech pattern.
Love this movie and the practical effects.
I can’t say exactly what age I first saw this film, but I don’t recall being frightened as some mention. I was born in ‘78 so it was likely at a fairly early age. I absolutely loved it then and enjoy it now. My 9 year old currently loves its’ fantasy lore and is hoping like so many others for a continuation of Resistance.
Oh man, so many great shots and short scenes cut and lost forever
I remember the comic adaptation (which I still have somewhere) confused the hell out of me because it featured movie stills from cut scenes, like Jen’s conversation with urZah, and while the Skeksis speak in English in the comic, some of their own original language comes through, like shouts of “HAAKSKEEKAH”. Didn’t find out until the extras on the first DVD release about the actual cut content. Even the children’s storybook adaptation (which I no longer have) still referred to the Mystics by their original name, the urRu. Clearly that was changed VERY late in production.
I love this film, wonderful fantasy film and it is so great how all the dolls are manufactured. A unique example of great art!
I think the Dark Crystal is a gorgeous and interesting film, but I’m definitely glad I learned about it along side the Age of Resistance series. It’s a fascinating setting, but as the story goes, it’s like if Return of the Jedi were the only Star Wars film and we only ever saw things from the Ewoks’ perspective. It’s not bad by any means, but you just want to know more
What a blast from the past I wanna watch the dark crystal again
I grew up with Labyrinth, i see Dark Crystal for the first time only 10 years ago, when i was already a 19 old. I remember that i appreciate the movie, but nothing more.
I must to admit than was the series,
Love Jim Henson. The Dark Crystal is my all time favorite movie. Thanks for this shout out✌🏼⚔️💎⚔️
I remember being a kid and seeing this for the first time, it got me into wanting to see more fantasy stuff. Once I heard they were making age of resistance I was so happy I couldn't wait to see it, and I loved every second of it specially seeing how they chose to keep the puppets over making it a 3d animated show.
You said that the Gelfling were made to look more human this may be true but they do kinda resemble Deers
Worked for me, I had a crush on the female gelfling when I was a kid XD
@@BattleBladeWarrior I hope that you grew out of having crushes on dolls. 🤣
Awesome movie. Saw it too early, hid behind the couch when the skesis would appear on screen when I was little.
My coworkers and I were discussing the best movies of the 80s the other day. Labyrinth and Dark Crystal were both brought up as some of the best.
I wish Jim Henson could know how many people he touched with these movies.
The dark crystal mini series or whatever you want to call it was SO good. I got so caught up in the story that I can look past the puppety.
The uncut version is like 4 or 5 hours long. Word on the street is that there was supposed to be 2 or 3 other expanded sequels.
I think they were what ended up in the series.
Graphic novels
Love this film and the prequels were such a refreshing surprise to how follow up films tend to go these days. Love them both and Labyrinth of course too.
I grew up with the original movie and it definitely imprinted into my mind and still sparks a wonder about what this world is like. I would be so happy if the series got picked up again someday.
Like it wasn't already "dark" enough? Lol.
Seriously though, I grew up on this stuff, have introduced it to my kids and now they love it too!
Jim I hope you know just how much everything you have done. Has brought joy to everyone who's seen it. RIP good sir, also thank you for putting this up
Still my favourite story of all time, 30 years obsessed
This was the first movie I remembering watching- I was probably 3ish at the time and now at 20. This world still lives in my heart and mind
Good stuff. I agree with you that the film is better for the changes made. Henson buying the film in order to retool it also allowed Universal to move the film out of its planned summer release slot.
A browse through contemporary newspapers at the end of 1981/early 1982 noted that the film was at one point supposed to open at the end of May (Memorial Day weekend here in the US), which would have meant that it ran up against ET in its third weekend and likely box office failure. (And if given the choice between Spielberg and Henson, Universal definitely picks Spielberg.)
Instead, it opens at Christmastime and Universal gives it a full marketing push with 70mm prints and the works, allowing it to break even financially in theaters before its eventual success on home media.
Now, the element of the movie that hasn't yet been released but is known to exist is Trevor Jones' complete score. While the soundtrack album and the film's music and effects track have been officially released, Jones has yet to allow any of the many boutique soundtrack labels access to the music masters - they've asked numerous times, believe me! - which he's held the rights to for 40 years.
So there's at least one more piece of lost Dark Crystal media out there to be discovered...
Uuuuhhhhh, wasn't it originally going to be called "The Dark Chrysalis", but Froud misheard Henson and drew up the crystal? It's in the special features to the DVD of the movie. Henson liked the crystal idea so much he changed the story.
This had a big impact on me as a child. It's so striking yoy remember it forever
7:50 Supposedly for 2 years a (then) 31yo Mr Christopher Orgeron worked on piecing together the allegedly 'darker version' and uploaded it to YT in as far back of (at least) December 2013 - And YT took it down 27 January 2014 at the request of the Jim Henson Company.
That's indeed true!
I got to watch it thanks to an old friend letting me know it was there: quality issues and all, it was truly amazing! Sadly it did get taken down on petition like you well said.
I believe my friend still owns a downloaded copy of that re-ensembled version!
@@skekla Hello good afternoon, does your friend have a copy of that version?
@@lux2625 Hello there!
Sadly I have lost contact with my friend over the years, but I believe he did preserve a downloaded copy.
@@skekla Oh ok, if you recover contact with him and manage to upload the material let me know to take a look :D have a nice day.
@@lux2625 I hope I might recover contact some day!
The material would surely be taken down immediately if it did get reuploaded to YT though, so I've no idea what the possibilities are. However, if there's any manner to share that cut, I'd try to let you know.
one of my favorite movies as a child
fantasy was introduced
alot of my hobbies and stuff now may be drawn from
this movie
The Dark Crystal would be an awesome video game. 🎮