Tracer used to Recall across the entire map
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- In 2015, Tracer could teleport from one end of the map to the other with a little help from a friend.
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Fun fact: this used to work for Reaper and Sym too. Teleporting a Bastion into Hanamura point A was always hilarious and constantly resulted in.... nothing really since the enemy Ana always sleeps him with his tank sized hitbox but still it's the journey not the destination
Am I missing something or is this bug from the beta so ana wasn't even out yet?
@@leonp.2171 Reaper and Sym's version of this kept going for a good while. It just got more complicated to achieve
well those cases werent the same at all, the teleports were just super lenient and sometimes clipped geometry in some area, people kept finding new teleport clips and blizz had to patch em one by one
had nothing to with position references or world origin
not muda showed this bug
Wasn't there a rock where Bastion can cheat his hotbox?
I wanted to document one of my favorite old bugs before moving on to modern bugs with OW2...and trust me, there are a lot of them to cover.
Thank god you have more videos to make! Such a joy to watch honestly.
Can't wait!
Hey Marblr, I have a video suggestion: I'd love to see a video of how exactly lucio's aura works, because I've noticed that for example you keep speed for a bit even if you're out of the aura, and I have a lot of questions about that for example what happens if the lucio switched aura during that time period, how long does the effect last, how high does the aura actually go, what shape is it, etc.
Shounic but Overwatch?
wrong that game is perfect
Imagine tracer IRL going on a road trip or something and she just recalls home by accident
Useful!
"Oh no, I don't remember if I locked the door/turned off the oven/closed the windows"
[time and space manipulation pizzazz]
"... yep!"
Literally the Tracer's biggest problem before getting her harness was sporadic, uncontrolled travel
Tracer recalls to the place she was born since that is her point of origin.
@@casualIegume Her mom is going to be *pissed*
@@pardoxia7242 😂😭
While it's absolutely a developer's nightmare, I love all the weird shit that happens from simply having stuff like a teleporting character and an object-summoning character in the same game.
It's super interesting. Sometimes these unexpected interactions can even become an important part of the game. The term I've heard for it is "emergent gameplay."
The classic example of this is the wavedash exploit in Super Smash Bros. Melee. There's one mechanic where you can press the trigger in midair to perform an air dodge, which gives you some invincibility and can be used to change your momentum, but leaves you vulnerable afterward. And you have another mechanic where landing on the ground cancels whatever move you're doing, but keeps your sideways momentum. By combining these, if you air dodge diagonally towards the ground, you get the momentum change, but then hitting the ground stops you from becoming vulnerable. So you can essentially give yourself a boost to the left or right any time you're on the ground if you can do the inputs, and immediately start another move while you're still sliding.
Some other examples off the top of my head are rocket jumping, bunny hopping, backwards long jumps in Super Mario 64, counterstrafing in Counter-Strike, flip resets in Rocket League...
Emergent gameplay is always fascinating to me because it's almost impossible to create good emergent gameplay intentionally. It's usually done well in "systems-based" games, where the game is designed with a lot of simple and interconnected systems to try to encourage unique combinations. Games like Breath of the Wild are basically built on emergent gameplay. It's super fun to find new way to combine all of a game's mechanics.
@@ZachAttack6089 Lucio wallriding how it is now was actually just that. Speed gain was not intentional and the way it happened wasn't either
Yoru/Omen and Sage on Valorant
There used to have a lot of bugs involving those two
@@ZachAttack6089 yeah true
i also love that and you gave good examples for that actually
i think what is also a thing, is in final fantasy 14
there is a thing called "slide casting"
in ffxiv you have cast times where you are not allowed to move
if you move, it cancels the cast
but if you start moving when the cast timer only has like 0,55 seconds left, you can move and still finish the cast
it's because the delay from client to server, so the server thinks you already finished casting
but you are still able to dodge boss mechanics and can cast your spells if you do it right
since the developers can't really change that, they adjusted the newer very high difficulty content to the slide casting "mechanic"
@@chickenbob562 Oh that's really interesting. So the worse your ping is, the more generous the timing? Weird.
Couldn't you abuse this really easily? Like, you could set up a lag switch and bind it to the same key as your casts, so as soon as you cast a spell you can instantly start moving again. Or is there some reason why that wouldn't work?
honestly i think having the tracer recall into what could be a precarious position makes more sense with her lore, and would incentivize tracers to be more careful.
it would also be funny if in lore tracer just does not trust any kind of vehicle in fear of recalling behind it(like the jets she used to fly)
If she recalls, then can’t she blink back into it?
@@monokumasussy9685 depends on how fast its going. i also personally wouldn’t enjoy being teleported out of a moving vehicle even if i could re-enter it
It's actually an interesting thought, because if tracer can recall and land on earth instead of space (because the earth, out galaxy ect... moves) then by that logic, souldn't she be able to recall safely in a plane or a train? It still seems somewhat counter intuitive. In the end it just comes down to the iner workings of her recall and general time-controlling abilities, which is not extremely clear in canon
@@arhis1026 If I were to have a guess, I'd say that, when Tracer recalls, her body physically rewinds itself from the point of activation. This is in reference to the way the ability seems to function in the Alive cinematic, which I honestly think works perfectly for matters of spatial coordinates -even when accounting for the movement of celestial bodies. To give an example, recalling in a moving vehicle wouldn't result in her appearing outside because her body is rewinding relative to the motion of the vehicle.
Were she to rewind after having recently left a vehicle, however, she should appear roughly where the vehicle was at the time rather than back on or inside. In that instance she'd likely retain the momentum of the vehicle after she finishes recalling, as well, which might... be unpleasant.
Getting that to be reflected in game would probably be a pain in the arse, though, so we'll probably just have the coordinate system indefinitely.
2 fun facts
1. If the play of the game is not noteworthy to show a player character then it will automatically default to 0,0,0
2. This was also possible with Reaper's teleport though it was in a different way
For 1:
It's almost impossible no not get POTG unless nobody pick a hero
Even placing a spray, using voice lines or emoting do add "POTG points"
@@videojenico While this might be true, it's funny to see it happen. I'll try it in a custom DM. But I have a different question:
HOW are potg's prioritized? I mean... (and I'll give a few examples from, let's say 1 competitive match)
So, in this match, we have:
> 1 Junkrat that kills 3 players with his Riptire, but 1sec after those kills, gets killed by (whoever) and his passive nades kills that person (so 4 kills in total in less than 5sec)
> 1 Reaper that has 4 kills with his ult
> 1 Widow that does 1 body shot, 1 headshot and kills said Reaper while he's still in his ult, right after he gets the 4 kills (Widow's order of kills might differ, but the point of dmg done and hits still stands)
Who will get POTG? How is it prioritized? By dmg done in said amount of time? By dmg and order of dmg? Shutdown plays an more important role if it's at the start or at the end of kill streak?
All the kills listed above could be outshined by a Ana that Nano a Rein and heals all his dmg taken while being Nano'ed? Or by an Moira or Zen that heals all the dmg taken, while all the players are caught in a Graviton (Grav+Dragon, Grav+Reaper, Grav+Soldier ult, you get the idea)
I'm just curious about how the potg system works.
Myself, can't really tell what the game prioritizes to pick a POTG.
I have experienced pretty much any kind of POTG, and I believe there are too many factors for it.
I'd say one of the main priorities are environmental kills + the damage you deal by killing enemies that way. As an example, I got POTG last week by killing a roadhog and a sigma by pushing them to the water on Rialto by using whole hog. They were just 2 kills, but they were environmental kills + around 1000 damage + being done with an ultimate. The game chose my play instead of the 4k rocket barage or the 3k death blossom happening later in the game.
I'd say ultimate usage is also a priority for the choice of a POTG since a 3k ult usually gets picked over a 4-5k with abilities/fires.
I'd say assists have not really a huge impact, since it's still really hard to get a POTG as Ana with nano or nade. Rein and Zarya ults work differently tho. You'd get assists if a teammate kill the shattered/grav'd enemies, but they actually count as kills for Rein/Zarya.
For Shutdown POTGs I believe you must kill someone during their ult before they kill any of your teammates, which I believe, it's prioritized over multikills.
And for support POTGs, you must heal a LOT, absorb a lot of incoming damage or get 2-3 kills in combination with heals/assists. I think rezing a teammates might have the same value as a kill.
In the end, I have not much of an idea in how the system works
@@videojenico You sum it up pretty well, not gonna lie. In 6 years of playing, seen loads of odd POTG's, so odd that in some cases, I've seen Reaper getting 4 blossom kills losing to a Junkrat that used mine to drop someone out of the map and hit some other players with primary weapon (no further kills).
Whenever I have an idea of how it works and I think I've figured it out, gameplay sometimes proves me wrong and gets me back to square 1.
I don't know anymore. I think it's time to drop the quest of finding how this works!
Thanks for your reply!
@@videojenico I feel like the game prioritizes diva. She could get 2 kills with her ult and get potg over a dps who got a quad kill
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What’s the specific ost called? If you know. I’ve been trying to find it
So basically because the floor doesn't exist anymore tracer teleports to the big bang location?
Yes because the original location didn't exist anymore the fail safe sends the character to 0,0,0
big bang location 😂
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I would love to see an explanation of the mei wall spawn door bug that tilts the players view, one of the most imfamous overwatch bugs
more than that. tilted the whole character
The tilt feature already existed in-game albeit very limited with Lucio wall rides and dva boosters
The thing is I feel like with definitely a few of the most infamous game bugs the majority of people Blizzard won't even understand why it happens/happened. I wouldn't at all be surprised if there's just that one coder who was specifically assigned to fix it and realized how after weeks and no one else asked why because it was a very complicated answer.
Interesting how blizzard decided to make the world origin of some maps so far away from the actual map
I think thats mainly koth maps as its 3 areas on one map so its roughly in the center of all of them
Its engine origin. Because the maps in overwatch go through a long development process, and can change significantly, so at some point it looks like the 0-0-0 coordinate was some kind of room where the player could pass, but then it was changed (and it was too late to change the coordinates of the world, because then other parts of the map were done)
its not really something you actively decide, you often just plop the model into the engine and take what it gives you
it's not something blizzard devs decide they only decide to take the scene they created away from the origin point
In the Korean map there's Busan Downtown, Sanctuary, and the MEKA base. In the Chinese map there's Lijiang Tower, Watch Tower, and Market. And in Greece there's the Ilios Light House, Well, and Ruins. I could keep going on with naming the maps Athenas voice is stuck in my head lmao
For control maps there's 3 different places in the same map so the origin is still in the middle. Blizzard probably put them all in the same place because loading an entire new map each round would take a while
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I remember clearly back when this still existed in the game, and I never found out the reason as to why this would occur. Thanks for clearing it up for me, Marblr. I've finally found out now after a little over 6 years.
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I like how you can see how they designed certain maps with this. Like with hanamura it felt like it was literally copy paste a shrine and go from there. To places that were more built by making a spawn wall, make a spawn room, then build out
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3:23 If I had a nickel for every time tracer's recall bugged with Mei's wall to let me get out of spawn, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot... but it's weird that it happened twice
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i had a Mercy bug on Volskaya recently that propelled me to the World Origin :D
i was trying to superjump to Echo that was running out of ult and i managed to time it just right for (i think) Mercy's fly-to coordinates to return as 0, 0, 0 (probably because the Echo ult copy is sent to these coordinates and then deleted)
great video as always!
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Fun fact: the position being relative to the platform the player is standing on is also an important requirement for networking. If it wasn't implemented, your game could display other players standing on top of invisible geometry, because you see the players as they were in the past but you see the platform as it is in the present.
Try to play in a different region and you will notice players slightly "snapping" and "unsnapping" from moving platforms. The bigger the lag, the further the teleport.
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