Twisted Metal: Black's Strange Alternate Cutscenes

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    Did you know that Twisted Metal: Black had different cutscene's before? Ones that had an entirely different story from what we got in the final release? I did, but many did not. So today I thought I'd make a video on the subject. They're not actually as bad as the thumbnail makes it out to be, but hey, something's gotta bring in the clicks... I'm being snide.
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    0:00 Intro
    2:28 Sweet Tooth
    3:37 Junkyard Dog
    4:30 Brimstone
    5:33 Crazy 8
    6:47 Spectre
    7:56 Yellow Jacket
    9:21 Warthog
    10:45 Mr. Grimm
    12:16 Shadow
    13:31 Roadkill
    15:16 Axle
    17:13 Dollface
    18:52 Outlaw
    21:16 Black
    23:35 Outro
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  • @clarencegutsy7309
    @clarencegutsy7309 Pƙed rokem +965

    I kinda like Dollface's original story more. Her father hated loud noises, so she decides to drive a huge truck with a blaring horn.

    • @WillieManga
      @WillieManga Pƙed rokem +47

      Here's a little non-sequitur for you: As someone who hates loud noises myself, even I know there are better ways of dealing with it than abusing the source of it.

    • @kingartison
      @kingartison Pƙed rokem +71

      @@WillieManga because YOUR brain works

    • @WillieManga
      @WillieManga Pƙed rokem +10

      @@kingartison Eh, it does work more often than his does at least, but...

    • @vcsa681
      @vcsa681 Pƙed rokem +29

      Don't know if it was intentional,but I really like dollface's almost child like and innocent...ish personality in contrast with a goddamn semi truck using a crashed police car as a bumper that she drives.
      And also I love the "character that looks more evil than it really is" trope

    • @theskronklbeep
      @theskronklbeep Pƙed rokem +10

      plus it makes sense why she would hesitate to kill him. cuz why would she struggle to kill her boss when she's obliterated eveyone else?

  • @nobalkain624
    @nobalkain624 Pƙed rokem +895

    Too me Baby Dolls is the one that hurts the most from the changes. Making it her Dad puts a whole other spin on her Story. It went from a confusing Story of how she let her Boss do this to her, to it being her Dad. Someone she trusted while she was still to young to fight back. Far more believable and tragic.

    • @jak199527
      @jak199527 Pƙed rokem +32

      It really wasn’t confusing. The boss forced her physically. Now whether it’s better I won’t argue.

    • @nobalkain624
      @nobalkain624 Pƙed rokem +85

      @@jak199527 Well it leads to many questions as to why she chose to work for a Boss that was that unhinged. To me a Child being forced to endure her deranged Father leads to less question and becomes easier to accept.
      I understand why they made the changes and had to just leave those Plot Holes due to limited time to tell the Story, its just that the Story is less bumpy the other way.

    • @inuiri8365
      @inuiri8365 Pƙed rokem +22

      As a kid he always felt like her dad too, it makes no sense to change it to a boss

    • @Android-Twenty-One
      @Android-Twenty-One Pƙed rokem +21

      ​@@inuiri8365 Cause back then Sony was strict. The creator of twisted and the team wanted them to stay but Sony higher ups wanted them out.
      Fun fact, in the UK version of Twisted Metal Black are all out.

    • @NEEDbacon
      @NEEDbacon Pƙed rokem +33

      And even if they're considered non-cannon, her having the mask put on so early makes more sense for her Harbor City/lost story of her head being crushed by the mask as she was still growing. Doesn't quite make sense a Collage age girl who had a job would still be growing.

  • @Necromagenvi0n
    @Necromagenvi0n Pƙed rokem +409

    No wonder Preacher's former story was the most messed up. Even Sweet Tooth called him up on that during the loading screen of the Prison Ship level.

    • @WillieManga
      @WillieManga Pƙed rokem +27

      Oh yeah, like HE hasn't killed any kids before... Maybe he draws the line at killing babies which, given him, it's because they weren't given the chance to learn the concept of suffering... I'm not crazy, I swear!!

    • @nattesnovgrel5172
      @nattesnovgrel5172 Pƙed rokem +23

      It’s more likely he was pissed about a priest (or Preacher in particular assuming the use of the same model means it’s the same character) giving him the curse and looking for a way to shit on them rather than an actual moral standard.

    • @drwho9319
      @drwho9319 Pƙed rokem +6

      @@WillieManga no, sweet tooth/Marcus kane mention what he did to baby in the game, which means he has done similar. It’s very messed up.

    • @bearandthebull2372
      @bearandthebull2372 Pƙed rokem +7

      ​@@nattesnovgrel5172Which is,despite being a psychopath, INCREDIBLY justifiable for anyone to feel.
      Imagine god allowing this absolute horrific monster to curse another one without issue.Most would be frustrated.

    • @Playerblu11
      @Playerblu11 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +1

      If sweet tooth says you're fucked up then you're really fucked up

  • @DrEarthwormRobotnik
    @DrEarthwormRobotnik Pƙed rokem +437

    I remember David Jaffe mentioned that when it came to the secret characters, they started to run out of money when it came to their cutscenes

    • @ejm1225
      @ejm1225 Pƙed rokem +51

      Maybe that explains why Charlie Kane and son had two cutscenes (the intro and ending), while Axel, Black, and Cage only had their ending cutscenes.

    • @DrEarthwormRobotnik
      @DrEarthwormRobotnik Pƙed rokem +56

      @@ejm1225 Hell, with Minion, they ended up actually forgetting in his case until the last minute, and Jaffe just wrote the "Minion Codes" as a last minute solution as he had a bad case of the flu.

    • @bennitori4
      @bennitori4 Pƙed rokem +16

      @@DrEarthwormRobotnik Damn flu ruining our video game endings!

    • @e69alpha
      @e69alpha Pƙed rokem +7

      That explains black

    • @CassandraPantaristi
      @CassandraPantaristi Pƙed rokem +4

      ​@@DrEarthwormRobotnik So the direction of Twisted Metal Black taking place inside the mind of Needles Kane is something that was a last minute thing?

  • @Karanthaneos
    @Karanthaneos Pƙed rokem +276

    Sad they had to turn down the Dollface story. I understand they didn't want to put child abuse, but interestingly enough they may have also overcompensated by splitting their filial relationship. It could've been fine if they kept her at her college age and still make them family. It also lessened a lot the impact and consequences of her ending, from just killing a random asshole dude to killing her own father.

  • @joeswansonanator
    @joeswansonanator Pƙed rokem +62

    Someone commented on a video with the altered cutscenes that Yellow Jacket sounds like Chris Chan and I can't unhear it.

  • @dessadoo
    @dessadoo Pƙed rokem +322

    I don’t know if anyone else mentioned it, but props to you on the alliteration of “Sad Sally sounds so stupid, seriously” 😅

    • @TBP
      @TBP  Pƙed rokem +77

      It was originally a longer alliteration, but I cut the second half because I realized I was trying way too hard.

    • @dessadoo
      @dessadoo Pƙed rokem +18

      @@TBP I say you can’t go hard enough with the alliteration and puns 😂

    • @Karanthaneos
      @Karanthaneos Pƙed rokem +6

      @@dessadoo It's all a matter of the execution. If he can say it with perfect cadence and rhythm it can work very well, but it can be somewhat of a tongue twister.

    • @FatherTime89
      @FatherTime89 Pƙed rokem

      @@TBP what did you say in the second half?

  • @WhipLashJimmyFrank
    @WhipLashJimmyFrank Pƙed rokem +166

    Theirs a lot in the manuals that goes further still. Doll face hints more at the fact that her anxious personality is as a result of abuse from her dad.

  • @AlriikRidesAgain
    @AlriikRidesAgain Pƙed rokem +98

    I still remember the beta cutscenes for the original. The talk about speaking over Black's ending just unlocked TM1 Calypso screaming "BLAAAAACK! BLAAAAACK! NO, BLLAAAAAACK!!!!" Iin my brain.

    • @CassandraPantaristi
      @CassandraPantaristi Pƙed rokem +2

      The voice over is said to be Mr. Ash. Marcus Kane, Calypso and Black are the only ones aware of being inside Needles Kane's mind. The reasoning why Black is in Twisted Metal Black is because in the mind of Sweet Tooth, Mr. Ash as an entity just doesn't exist. In Darkside's Twisted Metal 1 ending, Mr. Ash wants his demon Black back. When he gets Black back, Calypso gets very upset. This is because Black is sent on a mission to kill a darker, more evil Calypso in the "Black" universe.

  • @MASF_
    @MASF_ Pƙed rokem +10

    Bloody Mary's eye flashback shows her beaten by a metal pipe when she was a child, AFTER the boy rejected her and pushed her in the mud.

  • @Tmaget
    @Tmaget Pƙed rokem +84

    I was worried this video wouldn't be made. Glad to be back in the world of twisted metal

  • @hypnoticskull6342
    @hypnoticskull6342 Pƙed rokem +39

    I kinda like Black's normal voice. More scarier when you think of horrible things that he would say. Imagine him saying,
    "You can't run forever, Calypso."
    In a monotone voice. Sends chills up my spine

  • @ItsTheFizz
    @ItsTheFizz Pƙed rokem +92

    When it comes to psychological horror, less is indeed more at it's far more terrifying to let the audience fill in the blanks rather than to spell it out in detail...

  • @shawklan27
    @shawklan27 Pƙed rokem +549

    The cut baby drowning scene always made me think that one of the devs secretly had a hatred towards babies

  • @WrestlingRanter
    @WrestlingRanter Pƙed rokem +15

    Minor thing in preachers scene is the removal of the bible verse he mentions before he jumps- falls

  • @jameswebb1978
    @jameswebb1978 Pƙed rokem +46

    Dollface was always my favorite. There was something about her taking the key at the end, not to remove her mask but just to get her revenge against the man that hurt her that always made her a little more demented.

  • @LumbyMcGumby
    @LumbyMcGumby Pƙed rokem +66

    I bought this game specifically to unlock all the cutscenes dark as hell and creative. Plus I like the rolling stones. I wish they would make another twisted metal black. The taxi kid sounds like Chris Chan 😂

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife Pƙed rokem +17

      100% sounded like Chris-Chan, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

    • @daniel5730
      @daniel5730 Pƙed rokem +2

      Wonder if this was intentional

    • @yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
      @yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 Pƙed rokem +5

      Oh shit, imagine if he was one of the competitors XD.

    • @jamesvanitas
      @jamesvanitas Pƙed rokem +5

      @@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398
      Sonichu colored Tricycle?

    • @deadeye6969
      @deadeye6969 Pƙed rokem

      The kid has autism just like chris chan does

  • @Megaspartan23
    @Megaspartan23 Pƙed rokem +9

    Yellow Jacket sounds like Tobias FĂŒnke (Arrested Development) auditioning for an acting job.

  • @seansquiers6506
    @seansquiers6506 Pƙed rokem +27

    I love your Twisted Metal content. I'm grateful for randomly getting recommended one of your TW videos several months ago because I've ended up binging a ton

  • @Mankey619
    @Mankey619 Pƙed rokem +29

    I always enjoyed a lot of your Twisted Metal games that you’ve done. To the character’s endings to Sweet Tooth’s lore is one of the most enjoyable things I like in your videos.

  • @JoJoZaka
    @JoJoZaka Pƙed rokem +181

    Crazy 8 fucked me up back in the day. Did his story once and never again to not have to see the body horror face anymore in my childhood. can't imagine the nightmares I'd have had if the whole procedure was shown

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Pƙed rokem +42

      Pre rendered ps2 models tends to make a game come across as unintentionally creepy in my eyes like the orignal gow's cutscenes have this type of horror vibe to it that's quite hard to describe. It might be it's desaturated colors and low resolution that makes for a very uncanny look to it that makes it look quite harsh. But man twisted metal black's character renders fits this mold and boy to this day some of them legit creep me and that includes crazy 8 and even sweet tooth to a degree

    • @MrRAGE-md5rj
      @MrRAGE-md5rj Pƙed rokem +5

      Just imagine his nightmares; he lived through it!

    • @Primekillerboy
      @Primekillerboy Pƙed rokem +3

      "It's funny...I've still got some SNAP in that left hook of mine..."

    • @deafmelonex6983
      @deafmelonex6983 Pƙed rokem +4

      @@shawklan27 oh I’m so glad someone was able to explain it! Poor outdated cgi is already my kryponite, but when it’s TRYING to be shocking makes it soooo much worse! I remember having nightmares about this game that played out exactly like the cutscenes.

  • @greed42o
    @greed42o Pƙed rokem +34

    i wish they keep these in the 90s and 2000s were so edgy and dark i miss those days.

  • @JackXombi
    @JackXombi Pƙed rokem +476

    They should have kept Outlaws ending. Killing Nazis is always the better story.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife Pƙed rokem +75

      Honestly... I feel like nowadays, given how things are right now, they probably could've gotten away with that ending, although some dipshits would cry about it being "too woke".

    • @KingNexusMOCs
      @KingNexusMOCs Pƙed rokem

      @@SeanStrife There's nothing woke about killing actual Nazis. It's woke to call someone a Nazi just because they don't share your points of view.

    • @bloodleader5
      @bloodleader5 Pƙed rokem +128

      @@SeanStrife Nobody would say it's too woke to kill actual Nazis who are planning to commit a massacre, that's ridiculous. Woke is when you accuse someone of being a Nazi just for having a different opinion, or for example, playing a video game about Harry Potter.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife Pƙed rokem

      @@bloodleader5 The outcry against the Wolfenstein reboot says otherwise, chud.

    • @bloodleader5
      @bloodleader5 Pƙed rokem +67

      @@SeanStrife Wolfenstein has been about fighting Nazis since... 1992. Check yourself for extra chromosomes.

  • @TheDonkeyFLOPPER
    @TheDonkeyFLOPPER Pƙed rokem +15

    Bro I have been binging your twisted metal stuff. I was a kid for the majority of playing this series so I never had deep thoughts in to the story or the lore. Just liked blowing things up. I spend a lot of my free time drawing and growing up I used to draw a lot of twisted metal stuff. Watching your videos makes me want to revisit getting back in to making twisted metal art.

  • @MrCnovalink
    @MrCnovalink Pƙed rokem +19

    something that may have also influenced the change in Outlaws ending, is the fact that he is killed at the end. It's already a pretty rough watch, but having the context of what he'd gone through already makes it far too cruel and mean spirited. I get that TM has twisted endings that can be darkly comedic, but having the real world connections take it from black comedy(?) to just depressing.

  • @leosonny_
    @leosonny_ Pƙed rokem +19

    That outlaw ending is intense

  • @ThommyofThenn
    @ThommyofThenn Pƙed rokem +10

    I was entirely too young to be playing this as a kid but my neighbor and I had great fun playing vs. against eachother. We found the story mode really scary! When I replayed it a few years ago in my mid-20s, it seemed much more "dark and edgy" but theyre still really well done and hold up today as highly atmospheric horror. Gameplay is a blast too obviously

  • @insectostrich4407
    @insectostrich4407 Pƙed rokem +22

    Seriously, not hating on the originals, but a few of these deleted storylines could’ve been more interesting.

    • @ironicphailure7638
      @ironicphailure7638 Pƙed rokem +9

      honestly, dollface and outlaws ending shouldn't have been cut the rest i thought was fine

    • @insectostrich4407
      @insectostrich4407 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@ironicphailure7638 Exactly! They make more sense and allow their characters to feel more compelling.

  • @Sniper_Jacob06
    @Sniper_Jacob06 Pƙed rokem +6

    Black sounds less like an intimidating villain, and more like an evil Power Rangers character.

  • @alani.8784
    @alani.8784 Pƙed rokem +9

    @ 6:34
    You want to know what's weird? When Tactical Bacon said that medical horror is one of the few genres that gets under his skin, it instantly reminded me of the song "Hamburger Lady" by Throbbing Gristle. I doubt he would stomach that particular song, but in my opinion, it's one of the most disturbing songs that I've ever heard.

  • @jessmartinez539
    @jessmartinez539 Pƙed rokem +6

    Yo.i still think of these cut scenes. Thank you!

  • @MyInfiniteZero
    @MyInfiniteZero Pƙed rokem +26

    LOVE your Twisted Metal content. Good work!

  • @tkknott4045
    @tkknott4045 Pƙed rokem +4

    TBH Sad Sally sounds like the name of either a Children's Story Character a Point And Click Horror Game or a Emo Rock Band

    • @Alector12
      @Alector12 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      In germany, we have the cool folk metal band Subway to Sally that kinda has the same naming vibes as Sad Saly. If she knows german, i reckon Raven might even like some of the songs from Subway to Sally.

  • @Geekypoodle
    @Geekypoodle Pƙed rokem +15

    If I had to make a guess, I think roadkills driver was implied to be a neo nazi and the racist tattoos and placeholder name Ed is in reference to American history X and actor Edward Norton who starred in it
    I do recall David Jaffe was also loosely inspired by that film when he created Kratos

  • @coreypatton6290
    @coreypatton6290 Pƙed rokem +11

    Wow, the stand in voice for Charlie sounds like how some people voice Shinji.

    • @Mateus_Carvalho
      @Mateus_Carvalho Pƙed rokem +6

      Get in the fucking taxi, Charlie!

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife Pƙed rokem +5

      I actually thought the voice sounded more like Chris-Chan.

  • @aciura3964
    @aciura3964 Pƙed rokem +13

    TMB Was An Absolute Masterpiece

  • @yellowcard425
    @yellowcard425 Pƙed rokem +7

    Yellowjacket sounds like Bill Burr doing one of his voices lol

  • @justthundaidk368
    @justthundaidk368 Pƙed rokem +9

    4:37 this image alone just makes me laugh hysterically

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher Pƙed rokem +2

      Yeah!!! It is just so wacky yet perfect for memes!

  • @joshuagentry-1388
    @joshuagentry-1388 Pƙed rokem +5

    Twisted metal black was the first game I ever played as a kid, the franchise has always held a special place in my heart, the last twisted metal they made came out on my birthday too, I hope we get a new one soon.. I can see how the gameplay is outdated now but the graphics and gore could be insane

  • @TooSkramz
    @TooSkramz Pƙed rokem +12

    Sorry I slept on this for a few days Tac, gold as always.
    As subtle as many of the changes are, you gotta love the bits they committed to; I honestly expected it to be a lot more egregious.
    You also had the opportunity to make an awful No Russian joke, but took the high road, bless you 😂

  • @elchomper.1063
    @elchomper.1063 Pƙed rokem +27

    I won't lie playing black at 10 years old Raven was my favorite character for reasons I'd yet to understand but have since figured it out
    If my dating history and wife are anything to go by

    • @ironicphailure7638
      @ironicphailure7638 Pƙed rokem +7

      raven def helped peak my interest in goth/alt girls lol it also helps that shadow is my fav car in the series

  • @napoleonsexbomb2254
    @napoleonsexbomb2254 Pƙed rokem +3

    idk how outlaw's race war story would be more disturbing than sweet tooth or preachers' child killing stories

  • @Shiratto
    @Shiratto Pƙed rokem +7

    Great vid and really informative
never in all my years would I have thought I would hear someone say they play such a dark series for escapism

    • @TheMattZim
      @TheMattZim Pƙed rokem +1

      i mean, the gameplay is focused on KABOOM and cars explosion, nothing too deep and dark so i understad him

    • @Shiratto
      @Shiratto Pƙed rokem +1

      @@TheMattZim When it was one of the first to do that kinda things with the gameplay yeah I could kinda understand that but still it isn’t like they’re hiding the dark stuff too hard

  • @TheOverachiever7
    @TheOverachiever7 Pƙed rokem +13

    That JonTron cut in during Warthog’s segment was perfect.

  • @BleedForTheWorld
    @BleedForTheWorld Pƙed rokem +12

    This comment might surely be controversial but getting rid of Nazis isn't

  • @ideationnation467
    @ideationnation467 Pƙed rokem +9

    5:15 I remember the developers talking about this cut scene in one of the extras in twisted metal head-on and I didn't think it would've actually been animated at one point

    • @Exclusive1011111111
      @Exclusive1011111111 Pƙed rokem

      Did he drown the baby or crush it cuz looks like the uploader blurred it out.

    • @Exclusive1011111111
      @Exclusive1011111111 Pƙed rokem

      Nvm I found the actual footage of all the alternate endings. Yea they did show him showing the baby. Sheez wish they woulda left that in. Woulda been a shock value.

  • @FatherTime89
    @FatherTime89 Pƙed rokem +3

    They also have the cut endings from The PS3 twisted metal on CZcams. They're unfinished but you can tell what they were going for.

  • @madmonty4761
    @madmonty4761 Pƙed rokem +5

    I mean dead space killed kids

  • @Hunt38
    @Hunt38 Pƙed rokem +8

    I feel like Black's alternate ending the idea of Black being another being is a tribute to the lost endings of TM1 "Mr Ash" says he (Black) "is the most powerful demon he ever gave powers to" while TM Black's would've gone poorly I like the idea of Black being bigger or posing its own threat towards the contest

  • @GazettiSF
    @GazettiSF Pƙed rokem +3

    roadkill was probably called Ed after Edward norton. fightclub, american history x. he is a pretty clean cut reference.

  • @guidosativa
    @guidosativa Pƙed rokem +8

    The driver of Shadow (Raven), is actually like 16 in her driver bio in game! I always thought it was kinda strange how that was the case since yk.. what goes down in Twisted Metal Tournaments 😂

    • @nickrustyson8124
      @nickrustyson8124 Pƙed rokem

      Also sending a 16 year old to a top of the line security asylum because two dudes killed one of her friends, like I think a better use of resources would've been arresting the two, they aren't masterminds, they drove up in their car, I'm sure they would've been cameras near where Kelly died, also DNA. Stuff like this is why Raven is my least favorite driver in Black

  • @Drax69420
    @Drax69420 Pƙed rokem +11

    I think a video covering TM2012's cut endings would be intersting, espically regarding the canonical oddities like the return of blackgate asylum and Sweet Tooth falling in love with Sophie...before she became his daugther.

    • @marko-gj1uj
      @marko-gj1uj Pƙed rokem

      What

    • @Drax69420
      @Drax69420 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@marko-gj1ujyeah, I'm not kidding. That was the original plan for Sophie.

  • @synhellbound3181
    @synhellbound3181 Pƙed rokem +4

    Axel's is so heart wrenching, Baby Doll's is pretty deep too

  • @Pneubeteube
    @Pneubeteube Pƙed rokem +6

    Wow, a funky key that activates a rube goldberg machine which kills someone, and being forced to wear a mask. 3 years before Saw was released in theaters.
    Huh.

  • @jimbronie7024
    @jimbronie7024 Pƙed rokem +2

    The tattoo on John Doe kind of resemble the key for doll face's mask

  • @ObsidianDragon7030
    @ObsidianDragon7030 Pƙed rokem +3

    Man, can't look at Babydoll without thinking she's a discount Hexadecimal.......

  • @Felinius
    @Felinius Pƙed rokem +4

    Alright. This has to be the strangest Mandela effect, but I remember some of these cutscenes from when I played it. I don’t know if they were on a demo disc, or some behind the scenes thing, but I distinctly remember some of these.

  • @Idlemage
    @Idlemage Pƙed rokem +3

    the thing that bugs me about preacher is if he is just insane how the hell did he curse sweettooth?

  • @LamestLameOK
    @LamestLameOK Pƙed rokem +7

    I remember playing this game. It was hard as hell but really fun.

  • @pharmcat8484
    @pharmcat8484 Pƙed rokem +5

    That was some mad alliteration

    • @TBP
      @TBP  Pƙed rokem +1

      It was originally longer, but I ended up cutting the second half of it because I felt like I was trying too hard.

  • @Gallant_Tuba_Knight
    @Gallant_Tuba_Knight Pƙed rokem +4

    I always wonder how does Frank even drive?

  • @Alex_DC413
    @Alex_DC413 Pƙed rokem +3

    You mean I'm not the only one who had the Mandella effect that the advisor was an American turncoat?

  • @Chris47629
    @Chris47629 Pƙed rokem +2

    I so wish they kept Outlaw’s original story, it just made more sense why he did what he did

  • @adriangraham9849
    @adriangraham9849 Pƙed rokem +2

    The voice actor for Yellow Jacket sounds like it could actually be David Jaffe himself, the series creator.

  • @Vaatacious
    @Vaatacious Pƙed rokem +3

    Little interesting bit regarding sweet tooth’s visuals. The final product kill he slices calypso’s neck, but an oversight can be seen in the hair on his mask being gone while the in development scene where he just gut stabs has his mask hair still on. Just a thing I noticed

  • @petarpoljak6918
    @petarpoljak6918 Pƙed rokem +9

    Didnt Bloody Mary killed the child at the beginning off her flashback, but was cut from the final release?

  • @BlackHeart-ph3cg
    @BlackHeart-ph3cg Pƙed rokem +2

    Hell yeah love your twisted metel content been scratching my neck waiting for more lmao

  • @vault14hunter
    @vault14hunter Pƙed rokem +11

    Good work as always. Love the thoughts that go into the TM franchise bc I remember playing TM2 a ton when I was younger & then the series fell off for me as I got older.

  • @matbrun5663
    @matbrun5663 Pƙed rokem +3

    You can not match the power of "random person on youtube with 250 subscribers"!

  • @gothimaya2776
    @gothimaya2776 Pƙed rokem +4

    As much as I know there are certain lines we have to draw, it’s always a shame when censorship takes away from the heart of a story or lore-bit. I know dark subjects are still a very taboo thing, but if we can’t find some ways to communicate about it we can never expect to prevent negative outcomes in the future.

  • @BJI82a
    @BJI82a Pƙed rokem +10

    I can’t wait to see what the game for PS5 is going to be like. It’s a shame that they cancelled a lot of sequals to this game I hope with the PS5 and the TV show coming out they will think about green lighting them and continuing from where black left off along with some DLC.

  • @lupusumbra8676
    @lupusumbra8676 Pƙed rokem +5

    I wish they kept the more hardcore backstories and integrated them into the final product. Outlaw having flashes back to what happened when he was a kid and seeing these cultists reminded him of the bastards who killed his life.
    Raven(boy am I happy they changed her name) having more context to what happened would've been obviously better.
    Dollface having been wearing the mask since she was a child would've been more disturbing yes but make it feel more personal especially since it was her clearly deranged father.
    Axle, I agree the son would've made more sense seeing as how Sweet Tooth's whole thing is a clown driving an icream truck which would attract more kids than adults unless they made it to where both were killed by him at roughly the same time.
    For Grimm, changing the dude from Russian to some random white guy with a gold tooth that's a Veitcong advisor is just stupid since media at the time was still showing the animosity between the west(especially the U.S.) and Communist Russia.
    All in all I love Twisted Metal Black not for the gameplay but the world and its characters. I got the game as a kid thanks to my mom and while the game scared me because of some of the characters, most of them stuck with me. Their interesting backstories and personalities were more interesting to me than the vehicle combat.

  • @vladimirmuca849
    @vladimirmuca849 Pƙed rokem +4

    Fun fact, there are some flash animations made to promote the game

  • @Kpacfilms
    @Kpacfilms Pƙed rokem

    thank you I needed this video

  • @FatherTime89
    @FatherTime89 Pƙed rokem +2

    Sad Sally sounds like a character from a children's cartoon meant to teach kids about emotion. Raven at least sounds like something a goth girl might actually name herself.

  • @jpain5986
    @jpain5986 Pƙed rokem +3

    The kid voice kinda sounds like it could be David Jaffe

  • @PaisiosOfGOAOA
    @PaisiosOfGOAOA Pƙed rokem +8

    Personally for me I prefer the darker endings. I would have much rather see those come into the actual release or if they were to remaster the game. Have therapy adoption to play with the darker in the house. Cuz I think a lot of them make more sense. And plus the game as dark as hell already. Might as well go all the way

  • @Schregger
    @Schregger Pƙed rokem +7

    Its funny to me, they removed the reference to the guy being Russian in Grimm's ending, because they didnt want to portray Russians as evil. Something Ive heard people complain about in the story line of MW2&3, and the MW reboot...

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher Pƙed rokem +4

      Yeah which does sound hypocritical since they are ignoring history lessons, likely since they are born after the cold war and never experienced a real 'bad' faction. Now everything is grey.

    • @nickrustyson8124
      @nickrustyson8124 Pƙed rokem

      @@shcdemolisher Also especially now with what Russia is doing in the Ukraine

  • @RunTheJorge
    @RunTheJorge Pƙed rokem +2

    Twisted Metal video? *Neuron activated *

  • @JillLulamoon
    @JillLulamoon Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

    I have to say it's pretty interesting how Black and 2012 are dark and edgy in different ways.
    2012 is pretty fun edge. It's almost cute in how hard it's trying to be dark and gritty. It's so over the top it becomes pretty endearing and goofy.
    Black is... definitely not that. It's honestly pretty disturbing and unsettling. But in a really fascinating way. It's very cool and, as someone who never played Twisted Metal growing up, makes me really want to purchase it off PSN

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt Pƙed rokem +4

    Sweet new Twisted Metal Content. Awesome

  • @bkdavo
    @bkdavo Pƙed rokem +3

    Game was so good

  • @nathangarcia7921
    @nathangarcia7921 Pƙed rokem +2

    "Then Bopped him one last time! Then he's gone..."

  • @sirphoboszoids
    @sirphoboszoids Pƙed rokem +2

    At first I thought the voice for Black was Mr. Ash. But sounds like it’s supposed to be someone else who acquired black somehow. Very odd

  • @Izzy_Oak
    @Izzy_Oak Pƙed rokem +1

    I like how the ending for Yellow Jacket is almost identical to Twisted Metal 1's Yellow Jacket Lost ending, basically both ending up being Calypso's tournament star.

  • @Winabagel23
    @Winabagel23 Pƙed rokem +14

    I just appreciate the changes to the writing of some stories because the original versions of a few of them just tend to come off like the edgiest imaginings of a 15 year old atheist.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife Pƙed rokem +2

      For sure. I think the only ones I maybe would've kept were the original Darkside and Outlaw endings.

  • @mikehawk7307
    @mikehawk7307 Pƙed rokem +2

    That intro looks delicious.

  • @devpashupati9168
    @devpashupati9168 Pƙed rokem +2

    8:05 chris chan lmao

  • @gavinvick3592
    @gavinvick3592 Pƙed rokem +2

    Raven's friend, Kelly, looks exactly like a Sister of Battle from Wh40k. The short white hair, tattoo near her eye

  • @praetorian9823
    @praetorian9823 Pƙed rokem +24

    For me personally, I absolutely think things like Outlaw’s original ending is necessary in storytelling media, depending on the tone of the story.
    Of course it’s important to be able to escape and forget about the world’s problems sometimes, video games are great at that. But they also can be great ways to explore things that make us super uncomfortable in a safer environment.
    Mafia 3 involves you playing as a mixed race man named Lincoln Clay in the 60’s in the Deep South. The entire game you’re subjected to the racism and hatred of that time, and it really helps sell the reality many black people had to live through.
    Many people forget about just how bad it was for black people at that time, and the prejudice they had to fight, using the interactive aspect of video games to give players a taste of that so they have a better understanding of what it was like is a good thing in my opinion. Don’t let people forget our history and all.
    Berserk is another great example for comics, or manga if you want to call it that. If you think Black is dark, Berserk
 is something else.
    But instead of it being an edge fest of hate and nihilism, it’s really a story about trauma and healing, learning to love the world and accept that you can always move forward no matter how horrible your situation might be.
    It has r*pe, children being killed, horrific “gods” showing what the afterlife truly is, yet none of that is used to push some message of hopelessness or despair.
    What happens to Guts is tragic, horrifying, yet it never feels forced. Guts is at his worst in the very first arc, the Black Swordsman, but it makes way more sense why he’s such a jerk once you get to the Golden Age arc.
    It never excuses how he acted, but it *does* contextualize it, and make you understand just how much he’s had to suffer through, as he has to relearn how to love and care about the people around him.
    It’s a story of darkness and despair, and how Guts even through all that uses it to find the small beacons of light and hope. It’s a *heavy,* incredibly uncomfortable story, but Guts is often considered to be one of the best protagonists of all time for a reason.
    In truth, he kinda shares a lot with Kratos. He fights monsters and godlike beings far more powerful than any human could ever hope to stand against, yet he does it anyways, in his case, to survive.
    He had his “family”, or even, families, and watched as they all crumbled and died, almost completely breaking him mentally.
    He turns into a monster, someone consumed by hatred and rage, yet, similar to modern Kratos, he slowly learns to temper it, and realizes the importance of protecting the people he cares about.
    I think dark subjects are great things to explore when handled with care and grace, with an understanding of what makes them dark and depressing. Personally anyways.

    • @LeMicronaut
      @LeMicronaut Pƙed rokem +5

      Yeah, I don't particularly get the aversion to any of the original plot or details that got censored. I'm not really buying the "but my cathartic escapism in the twisted world of serial killers, cannibals, cheating, and disfigurement." Much like how you described Kratos' character arc, Outlaw's is much the same and it really makes him a compelling character to identify with, no matter the race.
      You have an orphan who doesn't fall into a life of crime with the easy familial structure offered by gangs, but instead works the hard and honest way so that he can protect and serve. He's dissatisfied with the way the belligerent hate groups get handled with kids gloves and goes renegade to exact his sense of justice. That slow unraveling into being a loose cannon costs him his ability to love and leads to him misusing his force, shattering that sense of family he tried to secure. An unarmed mother and child are gunned down when he didn't have to, all because he decided to play the outlaw bent on revenge.
      The way the scene is setup is it seems like the mom and kid were part of the cult, but they were visibly not combatants and likely abuse victims. It's great writing cause Agent Stone's story isn't just about racism, but it's about exercising personal restraint in a world where 80% of the contestants are just seeking bloody revenge. The scenario with Stone's lynching backstory definitely seems more like a personal vendetta twist to the Waco siege/massacre against 'the doomsday cult' Branch Davidians, where the compound ended up being engulfed in flames, taking every family inside (86 dead). Lynching is extrajudicial killing. Vigilantism. Impulse. Mob rule. He was only sanctioned to take out the terrorists, not their families.
      His second chance is a return to a nobler police procedure. He keeps a cool head. His grip on the situation not clenched, but firm. He deftly uses lethal force only when necessary. This cautious grasp does offer criminals some wriggle room and he pays with his life that day, but his life, his peace, ended with his family dying in that fire. He pushed on long enough to try and ensure someone else could have it better. He sacrificed like a proper officer agrees to do, upholding the safety and liberty of victims before his own.

  • @FoNgThOnG
    @FoNgThOnG Pƙed rokem +5

    Twisted Metal Black had some amazing endings/cutscenes. I just wish they kept up with it instead of going waaaaay off track and turn into stupid endings again.

  • @MisterMistopher
    @MisterMistopher Pƙed rokem +29

    I honestly just thought we could've been in a world where potentially even more dark stuff was removed from the game, as if removing body horror, child murder, and white supremacy terrorism wasn't enough.

    • @KaiKrimson56
      @KaiKrimson56 Pƙed rokem +6

      Unfortunately, we're living that world now.

  • @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
    @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +1

    Fun fact: the VA for Yellow Jacket in the beta was David Jaffe.

  • @xXEmo54Xx
    @xXEmo54Xx Pƙed rokem +2

    with the baby drowning i kinda think of a very similar situation with dark souls 3 where they went into great great detail making a baby model and lots of sound effects along the lines of a baby being crushed and drowned viciously over and over while it was crying but they held back and just decided not to put it in the final release.

  • @laytonbrewer1043
    @laytonbrewer1043 Pƙed rokem +3

    Twisted metal black messed me up as a kid lol some of those stories were horrific

  • @MrMcButtfuchs
    @MrMcButtfuchs Pƙed rokem +4

    13:55 Maybe they were going to name him after Edward Norton

  • @Chazzvc
    @Chazzvc Pƙed rokem +2

    Son doesn't have to mean Kid though, If Axel is in his 40s, His son could have been a teenager or in his 20s. That didn't need to be changed so much as the baby being drowned by the priest.

  • @motxmod
    @motxmod Pƙed rokem +4

    I'm surprised you decided to cover this topic so soon after your rant about CZcams censorship with God of War.

  • @evarjantz222
    @evarjantz222 Pƙed rokem +5

    it was 2001, for the time they would've thought that they didn't go far ENOUGH

  • @Shockwerk
    @Shockwerk Pƙed rokem +7

    Do you want to talk about the EU version of TM:B?
    I think you have already talked about them.

    • @ax0l297
      @ax0l297 Pƙed rokem +6

      god the EU version is so shit.
      like, atleast you could've done like TM1 and put the cutscenes into text. that would've been boring but it's way better than cutting off every single scene

    • @Shockwerk
      @Shockwerk Pƙed rokem +4

      Sadly I live in Europe. I have TM:B on my PS4 and it's European. But I love the game, even though it got heavily cut in the story department.
      And yes, I watched the cutscenes from YT.
      Shadow's and Yellow Jacket's stories are my favourites.