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I really appreciate that! I love making these types of videos, and although I miss the mark from time to time, I hope people still get something out of them.
I know you know this, but viewers might not: The ship's thrust isn't BEHIND you, it is BELOW you. The ships are laid out like a skyscraper with the engine at the "bottom". That way, the thrust pushes you to the floor, simulating gravity.
I mean, sure you could say below you, but once you leave atmo, direction becomes irrelevant. I was using behind in reference to the images on screen. But you are 100% correct about the way the ships are built. I think I referenced this when talking about the ships basically being engines you sit on top of.
In later books one of the guys talks about all the battles and all the rounds still carrying on through the galaxy forever until they hit something or get pulled in by gravity. Actually unless fired in a perfect direction they would never make it out of the solar system without being pulled in by some planetary or the suns gravity they are just too small of mass to win.
You missed that the bullets used by personnel inside spaceships are plastic rounds that can penetrate flesh, but not hulls. The gel rounds as far as I can remember have only been used in Thoth Station. And as far as I can remember, rubber bullets haven't been used at all in the books or show. Rubber bullets can't penetrate. The rare cases they are lethal is because they're basically blunt force, and in certain places, that can kill
Phew! Finally got this one out the door. I hope everyone likes it! I will be opening up requests for a second Q&A video next week. Just join the "Everything Expanse" facebook group to participate.
An aspect of "Basic" you kind of skipped over is the deleterious effect of advanced technology combined with out-of-control population growth. With AI, robotics and other tech, one university trained human in the ExpanseVerse can do the work of a hundred or even a thousand trained people today. So in a world of 30 billion people, the 1-5% who work produce enough suprlus to support the rest. But more importantly, there just isn't enough work to support 30 billion trained people. Rather than let the unemployed starve, the UN instituted the Basic Living Stipend for the massive overpopulated Earth. There's a lottery to get apprenticeships and such, and people can buy their way into college, but without money or influence or luck, you're stuck on Basic and deprived of the education and credentials to get off it. It's a pretty horrible trap for the ambitious, but the Earthers on Basic aren't starving for anything - except a meaningful life.
I believe I covered everything you mentioned other than the effect of AI, and the bits about the lottery, but you are right, I should have mentioned the lottery system. That was a major omission on my part.
The small arms used in zero G and gravity situations are exactly the same in the TV show. There is no indication that the the projectiles are little rockets and even if they were you would still have a recoil issue. If a propellent were used then either the rear of the barrel would have to be open so that your mini-rockets exhaust would not contribute to the recoil or an additional charge would be fired rearwards to counter recoil. There is no indication of either of these.
They say explicitly in the books that some zero g weapons have propulsion and guidance built in. I used rocket exhaust as an example in the video to drive home the point.
The flip and burn is to shrink the orbit of the ship... the way you explained it, they would use wayyyyu too much fuel.... there’s an awesome game called simple rockets, teaches you basics of orbiting and retro burns
The way I explained it is how it is explained in the books themselves, as well as by a number of sources I researched in the scientific community. Not saying they are right and you are wrong, just pointing out that I did do some homework! Also, fuel isn’t an issue in The Expanse universe, given the Epstein Drive, which is how I believe they explain this away in the novels.
Also, I’m sure that you are right as well, while the show is one of the best when it comes to hard science, it’s still a science fiction story, liberties will be taken!
Your explanation of how basic works in the expanse is a little bit off, or just not specific enough. Its important to note that it is not a universal basic income. The best explanation of how it works the best explanation of how it works is the Chapter in Caliban's War when Bobbie talks to the girl in the coffee shop outside the UN. That girl isn't on Basic, she was able to get a job, which are very limited, and if she works hard enough, she can move on to other, better jobs. If she fails, or gives up, they put her on Basic, which isn't money, and gives the person no purchasing power, it's just the government giving basic necessities like food and housing, but basically losing upward mobility as a result. People on Basic are no longer given opportunities to better their lot in life, or at least it is very rare. The show did a good job of portraying it by having that guy who wants to be a Doctor, and has been applying to be given a chance to get training for 40 years. What the show doesn't do is explain that people on Basic don't get money, just basic food and services. Without any actual income, it is hard to make any progress
Sure, but what I wanted to convey was a basic understanding of the system, since to go into very great detail would have been a 12 minute video all its own. And while I agree with your points, I think to say you don’t have upward mobility is stretching. You can come off of basic, it’s just that most people who land there either give up, or prefer it.
There is no indication that the PDC ammunition is rocket propelled as suggested in your video. One of the James SA Corey duo stated in an interview that the PDCs fire a charge rearwards to counter the recoil of the projectile charge. This can be seen in the TV series. The projectile trails shown in the TV series are tracer rounds, not 'rocket' exhaust trails. Rail guns are another issue. My understanding is that the rail guns used to protect Earth from a Martian nuclear attack have rocket motors to compensate for the recoil and to maintain orbit.
You are correct. I was adding the exhaust to illustrate build up of speed. Everything visual in these videos are for illustration. I don’t say that PDC’s have engines, for instance, I state specifically they are traditional weapons.
Also, thanks for the feedback! I’m only one human and I make a crap ton of mistakes, I’ve taken note of the places what I did visually was confusing, so I can avoid that in the future. I appreciate you taking her time to really watch and listen and then respond!
Apparently I was wrong about rocket bullets and recoil! In the 1960s there were some guns produced called Gyrojets that had rocket propelled bullets and the recoil was low. However if you go over to taofledermaus CZcams channel they test the guns out there and found they weren't very accurate or reliable. I suspect that James Corey et al probably got inspiration from reading about these guns.
The rounds used throughout The Expanse are just lumps of metal or any substance with equivalent mass. They are kinetic weapons and it is the mass times the velocity that counts. The miltary ships, stations etc have no significant armour as such other than they all have double hulls and whipple shielding. Just about any projectile will pierce the ships. Read up on current space technology and project it forward 200 years, you then get The Expanse.
They state in the show, which I am also taking into account, that the bullets fired from PDC’s are armor piercing, which would suggest that there are also non-hardened versions as well. Or there wouldn’t be a distinction needed. The image I have in the video for PDC’s has the armor piercing label.
Interesting. I generally don't get the impression that any of the ships have significant armor! Not in the sense of what we are used to with tanks and battleships etc. I would think any armor doubles up as whipple shields. In fact even the velocities of current spacecraft, debri and micro meteorites have a greater velocity and kinetic energy than a bullet fired from a gun. This is why armour on a space war ship would be prohibitively costly to implement. The orbital velocity of the ISS is around 8000 m/s, the projectile velocity of a typical artillery piece is around 800 m/s, so really the biggest threat would be from stuff floating around in space. On a side note: Given that The Expanse is 200 years in the future and there have been many battles and wars in space. It's surprising any ship in the series can get from A to B without being holed by space debri from previous conflicts.
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Really enjoying your reviews on The Expanse and your graphics. Excellent job.
Thanks, I appreciate the kind words!
Thanks for making this video brother.
Thanks for watching. Videos coming soon to look at the current season!
well articulated and edited video, I appreciate your work and look forward to #2
I really appreciate that! I love making these types of videos, and although I miss the mark from time to time, I hope people still get something out of them.
got the name right :)
very cool thank you for answering my questions.
another one to ask is why ceramic is used in spaceship designs in the expanse universe
Man, I was worried about that. Glad I guessed correctly.
Ooh, yeah I’ll look into that, but I imagine because Olof it’s insulation and heat dissipation properties.
I know you know this, but viewers might not: The ship's thrust isn't BEHIND you, it is BELOW you. The ships are laid out like a skyscraper with the engine at the "bottom". That way, the thrust pushes you to the floor, simulating gravity.
I mean, sure you could say below you, but once you leave atmo, direction becomes irrelevant. I was using behind in reference to the images on screen. But you are 100% correct about the way the ships are built. I think I referenced this when talking about the ships basically being engines you sit on top of.
Awesome video, love the expanse. Good explanation, subscribed!
Thanks, I appreciate that so much.
In later books one of the guys talks about all the battles and all the rounds still carrying on through the galaxy forever until they hit something or get pulled in by gravity. Actually unless fired in a perfect direction they would never make it out of the solar system without being pulled in by some planetary or the suns gravity they are just too small of mass to win.
You missed that the bullets used by personnel inside spaceships are plastic rounds that can penetrate flesh, but not hulls. The gel rounds as far as I can remember have only been used in Thoth Station. And as far as I can remember, rubber bullets haven't been used at all in the books or show. Rubber bullets can't penetrate. The rare cases they are lethal is because they're basically blunt force, and in certain places, that can kill
Indeed, I did forget to talk about plastic bullets, or more correctly lumped them in with rubber bullets in my head. Thanks for pointing it out!
Phew! Finally got this one out the door. I hope everyone likes it! I will be opening up requests for a second Q&A video next week. Just join the "Everything Expanse" facebook group to participate.
CJD Explains "people of the belt" - BELTALOWDA
I find myself fighting against using belter in my videos, etc. not sure why. It’s a super interesting langauge.
An aspect of "Basic" you kind of skipped over is the deleterious effect of advanced technology combined with out-of-control population growth. With AI, robotics and other tech, one university trained human in the ExpanseVerse can do the work of a hundred or even a thousand trained people today. So in a world of 30 billion people, the 1-5% who work produce enough suprlus to support the rest. But more importantly, there just isn't enough work to support 30 billion trained people. Rather than let the unemployed starve, the UN instituted the Basic Living Stipend for the massive overpopulated Earth. There's a lottery to get apprenticeships and such, and people can buy their way into college, but without money or influence or luck, you're stuck on Basic and deprived of the education and credentials to get off it. It's a pretty horrible trap for the ambitious, but the Earthers on Basic aren't starving for anything - except a meaningful life.
I believe I covered everything you mentioned other than the effect of AI, and the bits about the lottery, but you are right, I should have mentioned the lottery system. That was a major omission on my part.
The small arms used in zero G and gravity situations are exactly the same in the TV show. There is no indication that the the projectiles are little rockets and even if they were you would still have a recoil issue.
If a propellent were used then either the rear of the barrel would have to be open so that your mini-rockets exhaust would not contribute to the recoil or an additional charge would be fired rearwards to counter recoil. There is no indication of either of these.
They say explicitly in the books that some zero g weapons have propulsion and guidance built in. I used rocket exhaust as an example in the video to drive home the point.
The flip and burn is to shrink the orbit of the ship... the way you explained it, they would use wayyyyu too much fuel.... there’s an awesome game called simple rockets, teaches you basics of orbiting and retro burns
The way I explained it is how it is explained in the books themselves, as well as by a number of sources I researched in the scientific community. Not saying they are right and you are wrong, just pointing out that I did do some homework! Also, fuel isn’t an issue in The Expanse universe, given the Epstein Drive, which is how I believe they explain this away in the novels.
CJD Explains Nice. Thanks for the info.. I’m gonna have to pick up a paperback
Also, I’m sure that you are right as well, while the show is one of the best when it comes to hard science, it’s still a science fiction story, liberties will be taken!
CJD Explains thanks for all your work!
No problem. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Good educational pointers for a future beltalowda! Thank you much!
Awesome. Glad you found some value in it. It was fun to do. Science is rad.
beltalowda ?..or belter loader ?
First one.
im pretty sure the ship, you used in ship weapons shoots ion cannons and is on its way to higara
Your explanation of how basic works in the expanse is a little bit off, or just not specific enough. Its important to note that it is not a universal basic income. The best explanation of how it works the best explanation of how it works is the Chapter in Caliban's War when Bobbie talks to the girl in the coffee shop outside the UN.
That girl isn't on Basic, she was able to get a job, which are very limited, and if she works hard enough, she can move on to other, better jobs.
If she fails, or gives up, they put her on Basic, which isn't money, and gives the person no purchasing power, it's just the government giving basic necessities like food and housing, but basically losing upward mobility as a result. People on Basic are no longer given opportunities to better their lot in life, or at least it is very rare. The show did a good job of portraying it by having that guy who wants to be a Doctor, and has been applying to be given a chance to get training for 40 years.
What the show doesn't do is explain that people on Basic don't get money, just basic food and services. Without any actual income, it is hard to make any progress
Sure, but what I wanted to convey was a basic understanding of the system, since to go into very great detail would have been a 12 minute video all its own. And while I agree with your points, I think to say you don’t have upward mobility is stretching. You can come off of basic, it’s just that most people who land there either give up, or prefer it.
There is no indication that the PDC ammunition is rocket propelled as suggested in your video. One of the James SA Corey duo stated in an interview that the PDCs fire a charge rearwards to counter the recoil of the projectile charge. This can be seen in the TV series. The projectile trails shown in the TV series are tracer rounds, not 'rocket' exhaust trails.
Rail guns are another issue. My understanding is that the rail guns used to protect Earth from a Martian nuclear attack have rocket motors to compensate for the recoil and to maintain orbit.
You are correct. I was adding the exhaust to illustrate build up of speed. Everything visual in these videos are for illustration. I don’t say that PDC’s have engines, for instance, I state specifically they are traditional weapons.
Also, thanks for the feedback! I’m only one human and I make a crap ton of mistakes, I’ve taken note of the places what I did visually was confusing, so I can avoid that in the future. I appreciate you taking her time to really watch and listen and then respond!
Apparently I was wrong about rocket bullets and recoil!
In the 1960s there were some guns produced called Gyrojets that had rocket propelled bullets and the recoil was low.
However if you go over to taofledermaus CZcams channel they test the guns out there and found they weren't very accurate or reliable.
I suspect that James Corey et al probably got inspiration from reading about these guns.
Very cool, I hadn’t seen that. I’ll take a look at that channel when I have a moment. Thanks for pointing it out!
The rounds used throughout The Expanse are just lumps of metal or any substance with equivalent mass. They are kinetic weapons and it is the mass times the velocity that counts.
The miltary ships, stations etc have no significant armour as such other than they all have double hulls and whipple shielding. Just about any projectile will pierce the ships. Read up on current space technology and project it forward 200 years, you then get The Expanse.
They state in the show, which I am also taking into account, that the bullets fired from PDC’s are armor piercing, which would suggest that there are also non-hardened versions as well. Or there wouldn’t be a distinction needed. The image I have in the video for PDC’s has the armor piercing label.
Interesting. I generally don't get the impression that any of the ships have significant armor! Not in the sense of what we are used to with tanks and battleships etc.
I would think any armor doubles up as whipple shields. In fact even the velocities of current spacecraft, debri and micro meteorites have a greater velocity and kinetic energy than a bullet fired from a gun. This is why armour on a space war ship would be prohibitively costly to implement.
The orbital velocity of the ISS is around 8000 m/s, the projectile velocity of a typical artillery piece is around 800 m/s, so really the biggest threat would be from stuff floating around in space.
On a side note: Given that The Expanse is 200 years in the future and there have been many battles and wars in space. It's surprising any ship in the series can get from A to B without being holed by space debri from previous conflicts.
Or even, where are the ship graveyards? There have to be giant swaths of space that are filled with derelict ships, and debris.
especially after Ganymede and the Io campaign
Yes! There must be fields of death just floating everywhere.