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Indeed, the new groups and broken skills have become extremely disgusting, and there is no longer an enjoyable competition to play in. Playing against these groups is one-sided.
i find it very funny that Shaddoll has the most balanced skill out of all the top decks
Granted, you're basically deterred from using your ED if you go first
@@mohwe1007and that says a lot cos Shaddoll’s skill is still pretty absurd, giving you Winda and 2 Resh in GY
@@dannyeleternity7390 you still need to actually put resh into the deck
rhinosebus shows up in the vid as a card that needs to be freed despite being free already. this is because i'm an idiot.
Can someone please remember pendulum magician dragon pit and pendulum call they have been limited 3 for soo f*cking long.
It wasn't that op orcust and speed rod was above pendulum
Correction*Speedroid
yeah either could probs come back tbh, raging pend was the issue and they addressed it
Sky Scourge need banned,a card can shutdown 2 of 3 type card should not exist in DL
I think putting it at 1 achieves the same result, more or less
Sky Scourge only sees play on Agents, if Master Empyryion remains at 1, Scourge would stop seen play bc the synchro it's so much better to have.
@@brianlucero7656that’s fine tbh, sky scourge encourages a un interactive play style, so I’d like to not see play at all
yeah thats the point lol
@@Darkwolf_1017 Honestly, all the cards that have similar efects should be banned at this point. They were fine at the beginning bc they were useless, but now with the new skills and stuff, they need to plan better. Or maybe limite more the skills so they remain in archetype only, that would also help.
In the KCC I ran against 2 yubel players, the first one didn't know how to play it, the second one lost, because I banished their Kluger and the summoned Wiseman was put in Attack position, so I crashed into it because they forgot, that Wisemans effect only triggers after the battle., they would've won if they played their Wiseman in defense., because the second Kluger could've burned my LP in the next round, because Klugers effect works before the battle.
So I must say I agree with fixing the burn damage, I shouldn't win, because I count on my opponents mistakes.
NNnnnnoo my second Resh Shaddoll Incarnation! My consistency is slightly tweaked.
As long as other flood-gate-y decks get taken down a notch, I don't mind giving the Quadborrel spawn any cost, but if it were up to me, that'd be shuffling 2 Dark Dragons including a "Rokket" monster, from anywhere except your Field, back to *your* Deck.
*Fixed.
ooooh not bad at all
Ban all the Meklord cards
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YGO skill links definitely one of the games of all time
I must ask, as a Tachyon player that stayed with it until Cyberse became a lot more F2P friendly: which meta has been worse for everyone else? Tachyon meta or Flood gate + lingering effect meta?
Tachyon meta. The deck was busted going first AND second.
both are terrible, but you can actually still play the game in Tachyon meta, as long as your deck still have play if it got disrupted, you literally can do nothing but surrender if you go second against Agent or shitters that turbo out summon breaker first turn they get.
Between those? Tachyon, it could easilly play around almost all disruptions, and run those same disruptions eithout much problems.
You know the Tachyon meta is bad that I would consider to duel against pre-nerf shiranui then them at the time
I don't get the hype 4 summon breaker I never seen the card do nothing lol
Shouldn’t Heat Wave be banned?
nah i dont think so
@@mekklord why? it’s literally a turn skip for the opponent.
Heat wave isnt really broken tbh. Situationally yes, but not usually
No need to hit the Sunavalon skill. Hand traps are run because of the floodgatey decks like Shaddolls, PKs, and Agents
yeah but if you nerf those decks you can't just not touch Sunavalon too
@@mekklord of course which is why I would say put limit 3 on Loci and Shadow tbh. I would hurt the deck more without entirely killing it. Most only run 1 Shadow and 3 Loci. So losing 1 Loci hurts a bit. Especially because that's less chance of drawing it.
@@jameshoppe1417 just fixe the skills instead of limiting card for no reason.
We are in a meta when Konami goes way to overboard with dumbass broken skill with no restriction at all.
Someone with a brain, thank you.
@@sinjoh53Nothing is wrong with Sunavalon, though? This dude said his problem with them are the handtraps working with the skill which is not busted.
I hate the yubel deck too but in the current meta it’s not even a threat anymore 😂
Crackdown needs a limit 1.
Its fine at 3. All stun cards at 3 is ok IMO. you only get 3 total that way. Its restrictive enough and you can always play around it if your opponent doesnt have a BS skill letting them go +3 for free like most new skills seem to do now. The skills are the problem now
The only handtrap that might make the case to be limited 3 is effect veiler i think.
Lancea is too meta dependant. Suppose a pendulum deck becomes tier 1, now lancea is useless.
What do you think about Gem-knight Lapis Lazuli being limited 2 instead of 1? I know Gem-knight ftk was painful to play against in its glorydays and it is technically possible to pull off even at limited 1. But in this day and age of duel links? I dont even think it would matter if it was unlimited.
i mean it probs could come off, but why should it? i'd rather we get gem-knight support tbh
@@mekklord 100% agree with that, either give Gem-knights a skill or the rest of its support.
If you hit agent , should probably limit herald of green light to .
The deck itself is just not fun at all with gazillions disruption not once per duel skill...
Oooooh, giving the restriction Borrel Launch used to have to Borrel Link might be a good idea. Makes the Borrel Link 2 less free, probably a less convoluted solution than I had lol.
what was your solution?
@@mekklord To make the search dragon only, and make you so you can't activate both the second effect and third effect on the same turn, but that last one might be a bit too much now that I am considering it haha
@@thundermarisolNah do both yours and his. DL skills are 3 skills in one nowadays.
Blue eyes has another card that i find waaaay too annoying.
Heat wave, just stopping both players from special summoning an effect monster until the next draw phase is broken if they go first.
Heat wave, summon breaker, both are equal cancer. At least summon breaker is easy to get rid of.
Both of 'em have to go
I did almost the same banlist wishlist in Reddit yesterday.
Personally after seeing each comment in my post here are the cards should be banned
Banned
Iblee
Limit 1
Ophion
RUMPK
Summon Breaker
Sky Scourge
Heat Wave (This fcking nasty card)
Limit 2
Shiranui samsara style (The stall trap) that isn't fun to play against with.
Limit 3
Lancea (I got too much critizism suggesting limiting this, but my opinion is the same)
Spirit of White
Melody
Agents - Venus
Skill nerf
Agents- Once per duel clause + Remove the search effect in 1st skill
Shaddoll- Remove the Winda
Battle Chronicle- Remove "Successor Soul" search + can only activate if you summon 7 or higher normal monster this turn
Borreload link- can only search Dragon Monster + Discard for free link 2.
idk if Heat Wave at 1 would change anything considering the card's hard-limited already and it doesn't impact Blue-Eyes that much - I reckon putting it at 3 would have more of an impact
your banlist wishlist isn't bad tho, redditors just get mad when you insinuate their petdeck needs fixing lol
For a lot of these skill to keep them competitive but fair . Only being able to use one of the effects per turn could be nice
Masterflare Hyperion needs to be banned because of Agents if nothing else. What an incredibly unfun combo to play against.
Still beats shiranui meta IMO. That trap that just lets them survive NO MATTER WHAT you do and then the skill makes sure they get every resource back IMMEDIATELY next turn and build an unbreakable board unless you have like 4 negates / stuns ready. Worst DL meta ever IMO
My wishlist:
Agents:
The same as your predictions, Konami usually deals with Tier 0s in a relatively short amount of time, I have to give them credit for this. So I expect the changes to happen
BE
Spirit of White lim 3
Alternative lim 3
So they collide together, Bingo Machine is not guaranteed to search for one of the 2 anymore, and BE players have to remove Crackdown
Shaddoll:
I like the skill mechanic, it is good for flip monsters in general; I would leave it like that, just so Krawlers and other flip decks in general can see play
Probably EL Shaddoll Fusion and the Magistus monster to lim 3 so it loses a bit of consistency and Performages get hit too
Performage:
Just remove what I call the “play Mind-Control clause”. It’s ridiculous. The skill would still be strong and allow Magistus to see some play, even with the white waifu being at lim 3
TG
It’s fine, the skill makes it F2P and it’s not that threatening anymore
Altergeist:
Remove the “Mind-Control clause” too
PK:
Cut the Ophion package but allow Requiem to play its effect more than once
Shiranui:
Mezuki lim 3 together with the trap and it will be fine by me
You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about removing the Mind Control clause on Skills tbh
I’m sorry but what do you mean by “allow requiem to play its effect more than once.”
Blue-eyes doesnt need that hard of a nerf IMO. Just limit 3 melody like before. MAYBE limit 2 or 3 bingo machine. that removes thier access to crackdown and doesnt kill thier main deck, while also making rokkets less consistent in thier incredibly broken new build
Give agent deck treatment like they do to infernity, kill consistency and make almost unplayable
I would rebalance Shaddoll skill by removing Winda and adding Apkallone instead. I don't mind Shaddoll being strong, I mind Shaddoll being a floodgate deck.
Konami would NEVER
but you're right
Yubel neos is fun though😭 plz do not call it garbage 😢
I'm surprised you didn't propose changing Borreload Link so it only allowing the search of Dragon monsters with it's effect, to cut off access to Lancea in the deck. Sunavalon is fine though, but if you really want to change it, make it so that the mulligan effect only works with Earth Plants. A slap on the wrist sure, but I'm not even sure that they deserve that much. Being able to run handtraps isn't a crime on it's own.
"only allowing the search of Dragon monsters with it's effect" thats because i didnt think of it LOL
hand traps aren't fun, they're what makes most master duel players quit the game. I don't want duel links to be a game that instead of showing the power of your archetype, it'll be a duel about who gets the better starting hand traps. lol.
The fact that my decks need to be BLOATED with staples in order to deal with these decks and hope I draw the correct one is awful. Summon Breaker? I hope I draw my MST. Ophion? I hope I draw my Book of Moon. Successor Soul? BOY I DO HOPE MY FORBIDDEN LANCE IS IN MY NEXT DRAW!
Also, about the burn damage: I was beating a Blue-Eyes player so hard and easily, drew all the outs, ran into their Blue-Eyes and they dropped Deep-Eyes on me AND THE FULL EFFECT DAMAGE TOOK ME OUT. Why are these cards still allowed to do these things?
oh my god i had not realized deep-eyes was dealing full damage still
@@mekklord 7 Dragons in the GY which is easy for Blue-Eyes is an instant OTK for attacking, might as well be Yubel at that point
Free infernities (if I spelled it right)
Infernity best deck!! 🔥🔥🔥
Invicil should go to 1 and Summon Breaker needs put to 0. The card is Mystic Mine for Duel Links
Okay guys, with all due respect, how are you not prepared for Summon Breaker yet?
What are you still whining about? Just draw one of your unusable outs
(not serious. this is from mystic mine’d)
I saw The weakness of Sunavalons ,The only thing is Banished The Normal plant monster lv2 on the field or gy ...
they can dodge banishment with Skill, just once. If you're holding a Crow, your best bet is probably banishing Benghalancer while it's in GY before it revives itself.
Noids returning in the current meta would be nice
I agree with this banlist but the only 1 card i disagree is Lancea. Pretty good staple card with other hand trap there will time other deck can bypass it & had to sort to another staple.
The skill I hate the most is Borrel Skill let them have free Link 2 Pop with no way to fight back is unfair remove this part of this skill completely. Although all busted skill is hella beyond broken imo
Lancea irritates me because it basically turns into a turn-ender sometimes. Like I remember playing Dinos in Adamancipator/Eldlich format and anytime I'd get Lancea'd I just... wouldn't be able to play at all lol
Eternal bond is the only deck keeping battle chronicle in check
LMAO
Please free cydra
YES!!!!
Kinda bummed and at the same time glad that the Darkfluid deck is not as busted as other skill-based decks, so I can play it at "full power" and not be scared of getting it gutted (for now)
yeah Darkfluid Link feels really mid at best to me. i'm lowkey hoping for a buff if anything
@@mekklord Good thing Cyberse will just keep getting support
I hope this ban list is real
my job dads at konami so yes
You dont want unlimited shien's spy and vengeful servant in the same format. Other than those and woodland sprite, i agree
I agree with most of the "free" list, but not vengeful servant or woodland sprite. Those are only used for FTKs and no other reason. They're absolute trash for any other purpose
lets be honest they wouldn't do anything in 2024
If u played against Agents guys You need To not waste ur disruptions Especially Crackdown And mind control
5:27 Limit Spirit Of White / Implement this change to battle chronicle, Konami AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!
Its funny that 2 foolish burial + search is fine in a skill, summon link 2 for free, shuffle garnet balls into deck and make them a tuner, all of that without their hand going negative, AND I REMIND YOU THAT THEY AREN'T EVEN ONCE PER DUEL
Its no longer makes me mad anymore, Its just ironic that they keep doing this over and over
This patch is horrible beyond belief, all of these insane skill and floodgate running around 😂 what kind of madlad even going serious on a wcq with this crazy format? Is dueling still considered fun? What's so different from getting max c or getting floodgated turn 1 with 100% chance to never brick? Dlm max get the gems and go to sleep
Oh right, people may not realize, angel 07 exist, it's skill drain on leg btw bet they'll switch up to that the second invicil is hit, I've seen people run both
You may think they are garnets but wrong, with deck so consistent + a skill that 100% handfix, there's no brick in sight
at least angel 07 is reciprocal, so there's thta
Skills are just broken so kinda use to it by now.
How about we keep the pk rank up and leave th3 evil sworm at 1cause the main problem is evilsworn what i say might be flawed i just want pk to be somewhat good while nerfed
Imo, for pk, i would say that thebproblem is having 2 boss monsters that can just otk out of nowhere, since their monster can search their rank up magics for free.
should we buff the fabled skill yes or yes
hmmmmm yes
No not my phantom knight rank up spell, oh well this is a pretty good list.
hey I was thinking of you earlier! I pulled a Prismatic Myrmeleo lol
@@mekklord nice :)
Im tired of people wanting DL handtraps to be limited when they allow non meta decks to compete. They are healthy for the game and are format dependent! They even allow you to survive if you brick and are able to run them which is super valuable.
how tf do handtraps "allow non-meta decks to compete" when meta decks still use them?? the whole point of putting them on the list is to make it so meta decks CAN'T play handtraps
Unban Darkloooooords pleeeeeease
Hand trap will never get limit 3
Not until we get ash, which is in the code now... sadly
In my opinion, they should give us a month and unbanned everything
And give us ean event of Battle of wits and brutality.
Let us the players sort it out by the community. Leting old and new players play the decks again like salads, BLS, orcust, heroes, nightmares, speedroid, alister, shiranu, lunas, whatever else thats out there thats banned 😑 😐
Itll allow new players and old players too play thier favorite. Plus itll help make it far more fair enough to banned and unbanned cards that do seem OP.
Because lancea doesnt seem that op too me or summoning
oh god please no
You just want Tachyon meta to be back smh
Lol Bro Used Samurai destroyer ,Ultimate Knightmare wouldn't do anything On him .…And then Banished Anything on his gy and the. Field either
My wishlist:
NERF Heroes related skills.
Infernity Launcher to 2/3 :))
I wish they would nerf some of these skills they are ridiculous
I mean I’ll take as close to a crucifixion list as we can get, after nothing got banned last time and this format has turned into one of the most miserable we’ve had in a while, I wouldn’t mind some mass destruction
hell yeah
Imagine suggesting that Sunavalon needs a skill balance update 🙄 it’s a tier 3 deck if that
Because if other decks get hit it will become moreso a tier 1 deck. So it's to keep the game balanced after a banlist happens
it's the 3rd best performing deck of this format.
@@mekklord yall just plant haters
no vegans allowed here/s
@@mekklordIt's also the most F2P of the performing decks of the format. But the hand traps are more in response to the other decks. Without Veiler/Lancea/Ghost Mourner you lose easily to PKs and Agents, and even Shaddolls. And to a lesser degree Blue-Eyes.
Ban winda,summon breaker, iblee heat wave and tenyi luna salad cards unlimited
Banning Winda does nothing because it's only added by the skill. So they would have to remove it from the skill.
I quit duel links cuz of how overpowered the skills really are.
Side note free roar and keep cydra on the banlist so i can see reddit cry more 😂
good choice tbh
I want cocytus back!
I don't agree with lancea being put to 3. Why would you want rokkets to iblee lock you? Lancea keeps many decks in check from doing ridiculous stuff. PK won't get any limits. I only see summon breaker and imperial order getting limit 1 alongside few unlimits
because lancea is fundamentally unfair and doesn't "keep many decks in check" considering rokkets still thrive BECAUSE they can search lancea while agents are considered tier 1.
@mekklord handtraps change in every other meta. I remember people saying limit 3 veiler, limit 3 DD crow in their banlist predictions when those cards stopped turns and they never got limited.
I think all skills should be banned for these events. Force people to play without them
Dragon Link has barely arrived and you already want to kill him?
I loooove the deck, but I wanted to be fair and not just nerf everything else while leaving Borrel Link unscathed, y'know?
The skill is not enough to make the deck fall to the same level as others once they get hit. That deck needs to loss levianeer and iblee which is also a floodgate. But I think instead of melody it should be tracer to 3 that way they will only play 1 levianeer instead of just cutting melody of the deck
Are Gouki worth it
.no
Maybe Noids too😢
pwease
Banlist never 😔
in a couple of weeks, promise
Ban everything and only allows normal monsters with 1000 or less attack and defense😂
Chain Disappearance becomes a staple overnight
Nooo i just got lancea
The agents are garbage irl yugioh
Just nerf skills, cards are fine
disagree
skills must ban
Free Gazelle
Ban Iblee!
All I verse 90% of the time is blue eyes and its just flat out exhausting. They have an edge over EVERYONE that not all decks have and simply not a fun match up. Skill is broken and all the cards it has in its arsenal are broken. I really hope they nerf it to the ground so I can finally see something else.
Lol people that doesn't like Yubel/hero deck is because doesn't know how to play against, well, DL is officially dead to me now, putting that artifact on limited 3 is complete bullsh1t, now people will play with their graveyard even more without being punished... goodluck running 3 necrovalleys
found the neos yubel player
@@mekklord yee boiiiiiiiiiii
the skill is so problematic. it has to stop