Pointless Or Perfect? Christopher Ward C65 Super Compressor
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Big thank you to Mr P for the loan of another cracker. I rate CW a lot. Good looking, well made watches, and they now sem to have moved the logo to the 'proper' place thankfully. Is this one their best yet? Well, no. It need better lume and a retro colour scheme for me. And maybe more than 150m water resistance! Nice engineering flex, or sorts, though. Next up, the pocket watch? Cheers, Jody
This one is even busier than the zodiac, but some reason it doesn’t offend me like that one did, maybe because the colour palette is so beautiful. This is glorious.
A bunch of indices - I counted an even dozen(!) - minute markers ALL THE WAY AROUND THE DIAL, markings on the bezel, even a second hand. And did they really need to print the brand on the dial?? Yup, real busy......
Yeah, I like the pale blue one....been eyeing it for months now :-)
Using a more complicated technology to get a worse result in the end does seem a bit strange, but isn't that what mechanical watches are all about anyway?
Exactly, otherwise, we all would be using Casios.
I have the blue with white bezel. One of the most beautiful and well-fitting watches in my collection. The authenticity of it being a true supercompressor is just cool.
Definitely Greg. More authenticity than water resistance, clearly!
I have the same one! I love it, it's very comfortable, I wear it pretty much daily. It would have been awesome if they illuminated the white on the bezel in my opinion.
I assume if they went with a solid case back that would have increased the wr rating but guess they wanted to show off the orange ring/ spring in the back.
@@2500MSUB Most vintage SC's were rated at less than 200m, which is more water resistant than I am.
@@JustOneMoreWatch if it is a true super compressor I wonder why it doesn't have better water resistance? Is it because it has a display caseback? Or no gaskets on the crowns?
Real compressor, no fauxtina, this really puts it on the collector radar, the price is reasonable too, bit of a winner.
I think you are the first watch reviewer I have seen who admits that Vostok is essentially offering compressor technology at value prices, cheers for that
I'm surprised they haven't eliminated the ghost date
I have the brown version of this and it doesn't have a ghost date. Weird that this one does
I know everything else about the watch is fine.
I have the ocean-blue one with the white bezel and I absolutely love it! It is beautiful and so unique in design, you won’t find anything else like it!
I handled one today at a watch GTG sponsored by Nodus. I was impressed. It’s a very nice watch. The dial design and execution are spot on. This is the first diver with an inner rotating bezel I’ve handled where I’d actually have confidence using the bezel for timing without worrying about knocking it out of place. I might not be a buyer but I think it’s worth the ask.
Was this in SoCal? Interested to join in future!
I got the black dial on sale and I love it. The bracelet fits perfectly with excellent drape. The indices are gorgeous and I appreciate having a real compressor on my wrist versus just a dual crown watch. And the light catcher case is a stunner. The sparkly indices on the back dial really shine like the night sky.
I wore mine for 3 days last week and was again appreciating it as I did my daily chores.
Buying these on a CW sale and you can't beat the value with a stick.
I bought a C65 Super Compressor Black Sand when they were released. It's a great watch and in real life mine runs about +7 sec/day (which is typical for my CWs) but I haven't put it on a timegrapher. The Black Sand model was not popular. I believe they made only one batch, all with slightly off-centre text below the pinion (you can't tell in real life). The rest of the Black Sand models were sold at a 30% discount in their Jan 2021 sale. CW offered anyone who purchased one before the sale a refund to match the sales price. The black sand was the best colourway IMO but clearly the market felt otherwise. Time to doubt the wisdom of crowds but I would say that, wouldn't I? Lume is often a weak point on CW watches, always has been and in many models always will be. Not sure why. Ig you want great lume on a CW then you're looking at the C60 range. Great to see CW on the channel and another great video.
I have an auto search set up for this watch on ebay hoping to pick one up second hand, I must say a lot of people are selling the black sand colourway, so even the people who bought it don't want it anymore, each to their own, and glad the colour has worked out for you personally 👍
@@GodIsInHisHeaven I suspect that quite a few of the Black Sand were bought in the sale with the express intent to sell on. The sale price was very attractive (~ $640). Good luck with your search and thank you.
Beautiful watch. I love blue and I especially like the blue and orange combo on this dial.
Another retro beauty! Compressor style watches with an internal bezel don’t do much for me personally but this looks like a well executed take on it by Christopher Ward (other than the lume and that timegrapher result 🤦🏻♂️). Awesome stuff as always Jody 👍
Thanks Gareth!
Finally some CW coverage Jody. I wish there was much more on your channel. There are plenty of CW models like C63 Sealander, or C60 that look great in bullshots, but lack a real world reviews. I hope you’ll get a chance to review more of the brand.
I have several , and Jody I’m a fellow Scotsman living in Sydney.. happy to lend you a model or 2 if you like
Just bought the C63 Auto last week and I love it. But, based on my sample size of one, I will say that one department where CW are lacking (and where other Swiss Made brands offer more) is accuracy/regulation. I've owned seven Steinharts (still own five of them) and all of them run/ran within -3s to +5s/day. More precisely, they mostly run at around +3s/day and that's based on months and months of regular watch-checking. As it is after a week of ownership, my CW is nowhere near that accuracy. Granted: It meets the promised -20s to +20s/day at roughly +15s/day, but for a Swiss watch costing €750 on rubber, and considering my experience with the much cheaper Steinharts, I would've expected a bit more from CW.
Agree mate. The ETA2824/SW200 etc etc are OK out of the box, but definitely benefit from a bit of tweaking.
@@JustOneMoreWatch you've mentioned this before, Jody sir. So my amateur's question is to ask how much per watch it would cost a brand to regulate a watch before dispatching?
I've owned many CWs and all of them have ran much better than +15s/day.
I've got 3 CWs in the box - all within 4 secs. That said, I've got two Frederique Constants, one of which is COSC, and they're both 0 secs
@@markikn3183 may be 30mins of their time to regulate in 5 positions per watch then monitor on a winding machine for 5 days or so
I love christopher ward ive bought 5 of there watches so far for the price customer service and quality is really good 👍
Beautiful watch. Definitely one to consider. I have the CW World Timer and it is a regular in my rotation.
Really like this watch, and appreciate the fact that it is a real super compressor, wish they would have gotten rid of the ghost date though. May pick one up some day.
I own it. It's a beautiful watch and utilises legit technology. It's definitely a keeper. Add CW's impeccable build and finish for the crowning touches.
Same people wearing Calvin Klein boxers, a Tommy Hilfiger jacket and a Giorgio Armani shirt. I own a CW vintage diver and I love it !! Great watch
I have this one in the brown. Through the years CW has been making some nice watches for the money. I have around six or so and this is one of my favorites.
CW will send a half link if you ask - no cost. Love my supercompressor. Great review.
Since I am in Florida . That blue and orange color combo is perfect.
Amazing shots and if I didn't already have the white bezel variant, I'd buy this. It's an incredibly beautiful watch and a lot of watch for the money. Sorry yours wasn't better regulated, but mine is running +4 sec/day. Knock wood. Great video as usual! Thanks!
I own 3 C Ward watches. More than happy with all of them. Real value for money and good solid build make then a very good purchase.
Yikes! Im 31 mins late! Jody all of your hard work is much appreciated. You've introduced me to this chronic illness of watch collecting and my life hasn't been the same for two years and counting. Hellooooo from Ohio! Cheers!
This may be impertinent to ask, but your surname is..?
Retro design language withOUT faux-tina is such a pleasure to me. Looks like what a 70’s watch would have looked like new.
Love the t-shirt homage to Vostok Amfibia watches. 👍😉🇬🇧
I have bough a total of four Chris Ward watches, and still own two. I have a brown version of the Super Compressor, and it's quite possibly my favourite watch in my entire collection. Unfortunately I needed to regulate it, as the it was running 20 seconds fast. There is also some bezel back play, and they should have put a screw down crown on the bezel crown. Take no notice of the warranty, CW are dreadful to deal with if you have a problem.
I had one of these for a few months with the brown dial and orange leather. Fantastic quality and the way they design & finish the cases is incredible. Loved the micro printing on this one and use of orange. Couldn't get on with it on the wrist though, it never felt that comfy and I got the urge to take it off after a couple of hours. Not sure why - I have a Mondaine which I forget I'm wearing even though it's leather.
After watching this video I ordered the Ocean Blue model with orange strap. Looks amazing and I can't wait to get it!
Love the blue orange combo . Cheers Jody. Stay safe all. Her indoors must have been spying on my CZcams views. She brought me a Spinnaker Bradner.
One thing I now do notice in your videos now is how San Martin caps off their pinion which does make for a nice finish whereas other brands including expensive ones don't! Really is a nice touch IMO. All in all this one is lovely watch! Thanks for the review!
I own the black sand model that came on the tropic strap, and it is one of my favorite watches. I picked it up from CW for $810 Canadian because the "Super Compressor" text was not perfectly centered on the case. With my eye sight, I don't even notice it, but for folks with better eye sight, I think its one of those things that once you see it, you can't unsee it but for $810 Canadian, you would have a hard time finding something better at this quality.
I like the blue-orange combo, and love that little trident counterbalance! Fun!
Hey Mr. Just One More Watch,
Being a pedantic engineer who works mainly with the imperial system, I feel the need to point out that a mil is a different unit from a millimeter. A mil is one thousandth of an inch, about two and a half hundredths of a millimeter. I do understand that in common parlance where millimeters and centimeters are used as measurements it is easy to know that the meter is understood and just use the prefix, but I couldn't keep hearing it without saying something.
Beautiful dial. I love the blue with orange together. It really pops. I agree with you on the pushpins. Is there an option to buy the watch on a rubber strap?
Great shirt, Jody. A quirky design repping a quirky design. Love my scuba dudes 💯
I have this watch. It looks even better on the wrist. Fantastic value.
At last! The have placed Christopher Ward centrally. The offset was one of the reasons I hadn't bought one before.
At the sales this is a no brainer,beautiful watch,but Ive recently went for another dual crown diver,Nth Azores,and I really like it,the dial is nice.A bit expensive for a Miyota,will see in a year if its a keeper or not 😅
I've got this watch and it's just amazing. The bracelet is from a much higher price point too. Their Customer support is great too. Always email and ask for a discount code from them.
I agree. I bought a trident pro 600 last year for just over £700. I couldn't believe the quality for the money paid. Defo bats above its price point. The bracelet is comfortable, easy to change out fast, has the on the fly clasp adjustment, great lume, excellent bezel action. Top quality materials. God knows how much you'd have to pay for a more mainstream brand with the same quality and specs. I only have two divers in my collection and the other is a Planet Ocean I bought new last year too. When I compare the finishing and quality, there's not much in it to my eyes and touch, and the omega was 8 times more expensive. Wish the omega had quick release bracelet too.
I want to add another diver to the collection when I have the spare finances. A doxa sub i reckon.
Wow I really love this one (the look) - except for the lum and timegrapher.
That's funny we're wearing the exact same Tshirt this morning.
A true "super compressor" watch is really only safe from water intrusion when diving. If worn while only swimming, not enough pressure is exerted upon the case to engage the seals and make it water tight.
So how do you get to depth?
Lynette Nusbacher that’s kind of the point. As you’re descending, the increasing pressure makes the seals tighter and tighter until you’re at depth. If you’re just swimming in shallow water, there’s not enough pressure to engage the seals.
… unless you keep the supercompressor watch in a box under pressure, and only open the box at depth, and put the watch on then. This could explain some of those boxes that dive watches come in -- you know, the ones that look like aqualungs.
@@nusbacher I think what he/she is saying is that if you move your arms too rapidly or with excessive force in shallow water, there is a higher probability of water entering the case, as there is no pressure to produce the seal and you may force water in with the rapid movement. However, if you dive to a suitable depth without crazy arm movement (i.e., from free style swimming), then you will be ok. That is my interpretation of the comment. I am not sure if this is actually true or not, however. It sounds a little bit far fetched, as it means that you have to baby the watch in your descent. Surely the initial dive action will exert a similar force as freestyle swimming.
C W = great build quality.
One of the most underestimated brands
I rather like it, and I dig the under-crystal rotator but I agree on the black sand color. That would be super.
‘Another man’s name on the watch!’ 😂 As ridiculous as having another man’s name on your underpants! I would never do! Yours sincerely, Calvin Klein.
Marty Mcfly with his mom 🤣🤣
It's a nice watch with good use of colours. However I prefer the Farer compressor and the Baltic Dual Crown to this. The Farer has 300m WR with great lume and the Baltic has a gorgeous, clean design.
love the look and the inner rotating bezel is the coolest it would look so nice on a blue white and orange nato strap like my ecodrive looks on it
Love Christopherward. Always wanted to buy one. Not in love with this one. But want to buy one. Every time I am ready to do so, I find another watch that I like more.
I have the drown, white and orange. And it’s one of my favourites.
Sucker for orange and blue... would have preferred a 20mm, but will put this one on the list of I want 'em list...
Cool Vostok homage
Love my white dial black bezel C60, so much that I’m having a hard time not picking up the black dial and blue dial versions to go with it!
i always liked this watch. would have preferred a date and 20mm lug width. blue is fine by me!
Nice One. Kudos to CW - they did a fine job here, IMHO.
I own a CW Grand Malvern Worldtimer. Is so comfortable and find the quality above the price point. Have a Sealander GMT on order. Really like the looks of this diver, just wish it was not orange.
Cool looker and a great bezel design. The video quality's not bad either Jody. Interesting that they've stuck to the Christopher Ward branding even though he's no longer with the company.
1K for a watch with a ghost date position is a a no go for me, but the case design is nice. Cushion case gives me a Seiko vibe.
If you are a fan of mechanical watches, you have to love the fact that the supercompressor mechanism is... well, mechanical.
Love this watch! Unfortunately I'm lost without a date.😔
Looks nicely finished.
I must be one of the very few that preferred the Ch. Ward name at the 9 o'clock. That ensure there's no mistaking it for anything other than a Christopher Ward. After Omega, Ch. Ward is my favorite brand.
I have two divers in my collection. A Chris ward trident pro 600 MK3 and brand new omega planet Ocean. Love both and I also quite enjoy the logo at 9.
This is the first CW that I would consider buying. Overall fit and finish is to usual CW standard. A proper super compressor to boot. Would prefer screw pins but not a deal breaker. But unfortunately the lume, or should I say lack of probably would be. Great review as usual Jody.
This is the first CW I’ve wanted…thanks Jodi 👍🏼👍🏼
Dare I say the black sand version looks the best of the bunch?
I’m not going to lie I enjoy this watch a lot. The look the finishing is nice, The bracelet looks good. I also enjoy the fact that it’s a real compressor style diver. The whole compressor look is okay but this watch actually going though the “ engineering for engineering sake” is something I appreciate, and I’m sure others would. I wonder what’s stoping it from being 200m water resistant the spring clips and retainers or non screw down rotating bezel connected to the crown…
The sand version was stopped initially as the text in red at the bottom was aligned incorrectly - I had one and sold it this year. They sold them for £600 in Jan sales.
Love the design, but is it bad if the only thing stopping me from getting a Christopher Ward is the logo? Something about having so much text and the font choice doesn't really scream class
The "Hallo and welcome to just one more watch!" will never get old to me.
I'll be keeping my eye on the Divex Offshore 500, thank you very much.
I'm a sucker for some orange on a dial but sadly the dial looks rather busy.
A lot going on, but that is the CW style, I think.
Been looking into getting one of these since I bought a super compressor style Spinnaker Bradner a while back. I like the aesthetics of the dual crown design.
I bought the C11 Elite about 7 years ago - 500m diver, inner rotating 120 click bezel at 2, movement crown at 4, HEL on the left side of the case. Great watch - bombproof. So I see this watch as a mesh of a true supercompressor mechanism in the back as well as 7+ years of design evolution on the front.
I agree this should be at least 300m WR - a supercompressor diver at 150m doesn't impress! Plus, it gets more waterproof the deeper you go, so is it 150m at the surface and then ?? 200m at 30m depth...????? 🤣🤣
Some of us don't mind the name of another man on our watches but are Canadian and old enough to remember Christopher Ward was the name of the MuchMusic VJ who wrote the Alanah Myles' hit Black Velvet. Just seems weird seeing his name on a watch, even though it's not his name, even though it's his name. Maybe if the watch maker's name was Bob Ward....
There is a lot to like from the CW C65 Super Compressor but I would like to see the bracelet reduced down fro 22mm at the lugs to 20mm with a 2mm taper down to the clasp. Offer a true BoR bracelet with the great push button adjustable ratcheting CW clasp would be a great improvement.
Plus, regulate the movement to +0 to +8 range at this price point, would be welcomed.
Standard £100 discount if you sign up to the mailing list, so would make it 900gbp
Still loving the Sealander but agree that should of been regulated. Although not a deal breaker or the lume for that matter. I do find the dial a little busy but overall it seems like a well thought out offering.
Great insight Jody.
This one, however, is in my colour range and would look fantastic on my wrist.
I must say that I just recently discovered CW watches and find them to be very well built and have great thoughtful designs.
Thanks for sharing.
I had never seen a video of this darker blue one. It’s very sharp, but I still prefer the lighter, Turquoise version.
I love color so that blue on such a fun, updated retro design is just glorious. Could care less about the lume or the water resistance. I’m not a fisherman or a diver.
It’s 3 on my list for about 2 years, but now it’s next in the que and I’m no longer sure.
The Oris Aquis 400 is 3 times the price, not a deal like this CW, but I LOVE the Aquis and it’s clean, modern, flawless (to me) design.
Decisions.
This is a good looking piece. That inner rotating bezel is something a bit too. Not seen one like that before. I really wouldn't be happy with a pin and collar system and that lume for this kind of money though. The on the fly adjustment is nice too have though.
wow. CW is kicking it out of the park these days !
Thanks for the review. I'm interested in getting a CW ( Classic watches?) and I'm on their sale alert in the UK. ..so your view on the quality and value of the brand is pretty useful.
My wife has this watch, and LOVES it.
Hey Jody......its 150 m 500ft,
Might need to macro the macro😆😆
CW have some very good designers. I can't remember seeing a bad looking one.
That alone should be deserving of abit more recognition than they're getting.
Dual flag logo? Now I finally understand. Switzerland and England. 🇨🇭 🏴
Love it. Big fan of CW. I’m after a Sandhurst meself.
Absolutely gorgeous, a big YES.
Cheers Jodie, for reviewing
Well, I got to be the first viewer today. Big fan of CW watches because of the build quality you get, and this particular one looks beautiful in the blue and orange. I love that they are a British company, and the customer support they offer. Thanks Jody for you usual balance, clarity, and analysis. Top work as always, I may just add this one to my (modest) collection!!
Thanks Charlie! Leaving brand to one side, CW are very hard to beat in their price range.
It reminds me of a Citizen I a) only paid £125 for and b) regretted buying after looking at its face for 2 weeks.
Tone down the orange, boost the lume, and make it 660ft. Then I'd buy one.
Much better than the zodiac, honestly don’t mind the Christopher Ward logo but then again my name is Chris and last name begins with W lol so I can’t complain!
Very nice watch bit out of my price range at the moment but do like the design
This could be the first CH that I solidly like.
I love the C65 Super Compressor look, but I haven't picked one up due to the lack of a date.
For some reason I just feel like they are boring. Strange as that makes no sense. I don’t get to the end of the video wishing I could afford one. Great vid! Merci!
JOMW! GREAT review, as always! You never fail to impress with your detail, humor and on-the-nose critiques. This one is no different, however I have to say I've never been a fan of cushion cases. They look like a turkey platter with a watch dial stuck on. Also, what's with the constant complaints about having a watch maker's name on the dial? Really?? Following are watches with men's (and a woman's) names on them: Joseph BULOVA, Antoni PATEK and Adrien PHILIPPE, Antoine LeCOULTRE, RICHARD MILLE, Louis-François CARTIER, Charles-Félicien TISSOT, Aletta Francoise FREDERIQUE Stas-Bax and Peter CONSTANT, Andrew HAMILTON, and finally BREGUET... I guess it's fine if the name sounds more French, Scottish, Dutch, Swiss, Polish or Russian? (These are the true origins of all these fine watchmakers.) Anyway, having gotten all that out of the way, I currently own the C.Ward C60 Trident Bronze Ombré COSC Limited Edition (a superb watch!) and a C.Ward C60 Trident Pro 600 with red ceramic bezel, also a superior watch. I had the older C60 with black bezel, but sold it. And you're right Jody - that S.Compressor movement should have been adjusted better. I paid the same for my COSC Trident Bronze (WITH an $81 USD Import Duty!) as what they're asking for the Compressor. NO excuses C.W.!!
Great review, thanks!
This watch isn’t for me, but I can vouch for their quality and value for money, having bought two of their models. 👍👍
People keep commenting negatively about wearing a watch with another mans name on it, this makes no sense to me ! Would it bother them if it had 2 men’s names on it ? For example A. Lange & Söhne or Patek Phillipe ? Somehow I doubt it 😳
I think it's anglocentricism, Christopher Ward could be your mate from the pub whereas "A. Lange & Söhne" doesn't even sound like a name (as long as you're not from a related European country).