"The Boilermaker Legacy": The USS Monitor
Vložit
- čas přidán 3. 10. 2012
- Excerpt from "The Boilermaker Legacy," a documentary film (146 minutes in length) produced in collaboration with International Brotherhood of Boilermakers about the Brotherhood's history, their culture, and their ever-evolving craft. This clip from the "Ships" section of the film explores the Civil War battleship, USS Monitor, and its Boilermaker crew members.
Wide Awake Films
www.wideawakefilms.com/
#wideawake
FACEBOOK - / wideawakefilms
INSTAGRAM - / wideawakefilms - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Imagine being waken up by loud explosions, and this strange loud noise, like someone is hitting it's hammer against an anvil, coming from the river, and you see the a roof of a cabin made of metal, floating in water, fighting against a big floating barrel, also made of metal
The battle between the Virginia and the Monitor made wooden hulled vessels obsolete.
Except they didn't stop building wooden hulled ships. WWI many of the cargo vessels sunk by U-Boats were still wooden hulled and in WWII, the USN was using what was known as "PT-Boats" wooden hulled ships that were very fast and armed with 4 torpedoes, they were nicknamed "devil boats" by the Japanese. Famously JFK served on a wooden hulled 80' Elco PT boat during WWII.
@@Edax_Royeaux Wood is cheaper to use, but non the less obsolete for war ship construction. All came down to what supply of metal was available for ship constructions. In WW2, England had sever shortages but someone approached Churchill with an idea of building a ship out of Pykrete (Frozen Sawdust). Of course it did not work, but still was proposed.
@@porpus99 The definition of obsolete is: no longer produced or used; out of date. If they were still building warships hulls out of wood up to WWII and such ships remained deadly effective, then they were not obsolete. If wood is cheaper to use, that would be another reason wooden hulls were not obsolete, because warships that are cheap have strategic value. The last Battleship duel in history involved PT boats making attacks on a Japanese fleet formation.
And in practicality, when a wooden ship of the line (SMS Kaiser) fought multiple Ironclads, it proved surprisingly effective against such ships, being taller and far more maneuverable, evading ram attempts and being able to fire down onto the Ironclad decks killing a lot of sailors. And being a ship of the line, she had nearly 4 times the guns of an Ironclad and her withering fire was able to jam the iron turret of one of her opponents and set her deck on fire.
@@Edax_Royeaux It was being phased out, however industry did not catch up fast enough for future conflicts. I stand by my post, but if you wish to continue looking for an argument than please feel free to look elsewhere.
No HMS Warrior and the shell gun did. Hampton Roads is just a footnote in history.
In these documentaries they never mention everything. My distant relative also helped design the US Monitor, Cornelius H. DeLamater. Here is Wikipedia about the collaboration of the two closest friends.At DeLamater Ironworks, both the Monitor and Dictator were developed, the first Steamboat The Iron Witch, the first submarine, the first self-propelled torpedo, first torpedo boat, and the original engine for the USS Monitor. Most innovations are collaborated and my relative deserves a place in this history.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_H._DeLamater
The design that became USS Monitor was not the only one the Navy Department approved of to counter Virginia. They also accepted designs that would become the USS Galena and the USS New Ironsides. The Monitor was the one that happened to be finished first. And if not for Abraham Lincoln's involvement (the Navy Department actually initially rejected the Monitor's design, mostly because they had a bone to pick with it's designer, John Ericsson, due to the earlier failure of a cannon he designed for another warship), it probably wouldn't have been built at all.
Awesome. The USS Monitor is sort of a Ghost ship.
The turret is on display at the Monitor Museum near Hampton Roads. We visited over Labor day. They have the turret, a cannon and other artifacts in large tubs as well as a full size replica that you can go out and walk on the deck.
i come from the town in sweden where the guy who designed this comes from
Hilding no one cares
Hilding thanks I guess I can’t explain it
Hilding want a cookie?!
NO ONE CARES ok
Brooke and Porter, the rebel maritime designers, were innovative (although not completely original since they borrowed from the floating batteries of the Crimean War). John Ericsson, however, was a truly brilliant inventor, with original designs for a large amount of the Monitor. His turret concept is still in use, whereas the broadside of the Merrimack/Virginia has long been left in the dust. I find Ericsson a fascinating person. Also James B. Eads, another engineer who is overdue for proper recognition.
The Virginia's armour was not plate. It was railroad track laid vertically side by side.
Source?
SorcererWaluigi Ive read that somewhere before and talked about it during my civil war period in class, so I can confirm thats true
@@aletron4750 you're thinking of the CSS Georgia. The armor was made that way to simplify production minimizing any new manufacture, however the unintended side effect of that was that it made the ship too heavy reserving the ship to a glorified barge in Savannah Harbor. The Virginia's armor was made from railroad track, but it was melted down into plate by the Tredegar Iron Works in Richmond.
Wasn t it the georgia
CSS Arkansas was armored with railroad rails as well. CSS Virginia was plated over thick wooden timbers.
Loved it, but what about Robert William's story? Why'd you leave us with a cliff hanger?
🇺🇸⚓️PRESENT ARMS!!!⚓️🇺🇸
Well made documentary
Interesting to hear some names put to the faces in those old photos.
I have the blueprints of this ship on my wall😁
it board was fastastic, very good
06:17:
Well, if one of them was around 5'9, and none of the others was even remotely of the same kind of height, then it is for sure the Welsh boilermaker.
The Monitors exhaust outlet was put in a terrible place. They should have placed it back as far as possible. Smoke so close it had to have caused visual aiming problems and serious smoke inhalation
The pilot house was poorly placed as well, directly in front of the turret. This issue was corrected in subsequent monitors. Remember, this was the first one. Also interesting, the design Ericsson submitted to France was for a rounded turret that would deflect shot. He went for a flat-topped turret with the U.S.S. Monitor to save production time/cost due to the technological requirements for the alternative. That decision would influence turret design through WWI.
@@inkey2 sure, but they were 11" (later 15") Dahlgren's behind very thick turret armor, so they were expecting them to be able to withstand a furious fire. The rifled Armstrong and Blakely guns later in the war might have been of more concern, but at that point (March 1862) the U.S.S. Monitor could go toe to toe with anything the South could think of.
@@inkey2 I believe that is correct. It ultimately foundered and sank off of Cape Hatteras in heavy weather.
I always liked to read as much as I could about this while I was in basic. I always tried to picture how it might have looked while I was on watch. The Navy-issued training guide goes into a little detail about it, but it really doesn't do the USS Monitor quite the justice it deserves, what with it being the ship that almost singlehandedly revolutionized naval warfare.
el abuelo del Huascar (peruvian boat Grau)
The hungarian fleet have an monitor. The SMS Leitha
who narrated part 2?
The captain of the monitor only used 1/2 power for fear of blowing up the guns but they were tested with full loads. If they had used full loads the Virginia would have been thoroughly destroyed!
That is just a myth. He used the allowed load. The inventor of the dalgrens claimed he could have used a stronger load but that is just that a claim.
Where are your facts (Sources) for this claim?
The monitor is pretty cool but let's talk about the boiler maker Robert Williams
5:58 I wonder if DNA could ever be recovered.
Zach81376 yikes
it's odd to American eyes that the navy wasn't segregated in the 19th century-that was a gist of the fin de seicle and continued until after World War Ii
It has been said of the Royal Navy that the life if a prisoner was better then that of a sailor. The prisoner has more living space, better food and a significantly smaller chance of drowning. So I'm not surprised the Navy took whatever patriots they could get.
It wasn't until the late 19th and early 20 century did the navy become segregated .
Woodrow Wilson was the Demmocrat racist who segregated the armed forces.
Isn't Erikson the dude who discovered america too? Leif Erikson lol
one failed one did its job
I work with one of the divers in charge of scavenging parts from the monitor
In what occupation, pray tell?
@@Briselance As in where does he work now ?
A Lowes in my hometown
I thought that the Confederacy kept the name Merrimack. Was it really called the Virginia?
It depends on who you ask... literally her own crew did not really agree on her name. In a not shell she was referred as both merrimack and Virginia at the same time.
Officially she was called the CSS Virginia, but others, especially the Union, unofficially still called her the Merrimack
@@sirboomsalot4902 Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
Pro Union papers referred to it by the USN commission name from before she was burned and abandoned by Union forces evacuating Norfolk in 1861. Textbooks post war were mostly Boston, New York and Philadelphia publications. They refused to acknowledge the recommissioning by the CSN as the CSS Virginia.
They often would not refer to Confederate officers by their CSN rank, but their last rank before resigning their USN commission. Captain Semmes, for instance, instead of Adm. Semmes.
Coastal posts and batteries renamed by the CSA, we're also commonly listed by their pee war USA designation.
So let me get this straight.The uss Virginia was actually the Merrimac?Confused.
The marrimack was salvaged and turned into the css Virginia
Yes. The Confederates renamed her.
The virginia wasn't scuttled, it ended up in the sahara desert with millions in confederate gold
AAAANNNDDdd 100!
Was there a weird emphasis on "And atleast one welshman" Was that something special or was it some sort of diversity requirement?
No. Just because there was just him (and maybe a very few others) coming from Wales.
Just that.
I'd have said "defend or destroy it".
Cannon made in Watervliet arsenanal.
Go YSS monitor!
Pete yikes
Yes yee state ship (yss) monitor!
Glory to the gallant sailors of the Confederacy!
Is it just me, or is Luke Skywalker narrating this?
Here is a few better questions. Why did it take the over funded powder puff US Navy so long to raise artifacts? Does the US Navy not know about DNA?
Eahlgrenguns
Destroy their own ship?
5’9” is short AF....
Not back then.
By the way 5’9” is average height a male in the United States.
I guess you’re tall and think everybody else is short by comparison?
well I am 5'3 fuck you
@@user-jh6ik1qd7p be proud to be a bottom!!
As a Svensk I do apologize for Johan Eriksson.
What? why?
How can you be in a position to apologize for an engineer from the 1860s? Even if you lived in the same time he would not even awknowledged you piece of shit. What a stupid fuckin comment Krister.
MrFysik No because of his immigration to the US he helped the Union to win the war, if only our admirality had listen to him.
Krister Andersson
So you saying the south should have won?
MrFysik Yes why not, that would have been interesting,
The revolving tourette- how he says it lol