Dell XPS 17 9710 (2021) Review
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Dell’s 17” XPS slim and light laptop / premium mobile workstation is back for a second generation in 2021 with a striking wide gamut 4+ display option, NVIDIA RTX 3050 and RTX 3060 graphics, and the usual CNC aluminum chassis with carbon fiber interior. The XPS 17 (9710) targets content creators (and content consumers!) with that big 16:10 aspect ratio display, Intel 11th gen 45 watt Core i5, i7 and i9 processors, expandable RAM and storage and quite good quad stereo speakers. The notebook PC has Thunderbolt 4, a full size SD card slot and both a fingerprint scanner and Windows Hello camera. It directly competes with the 16” M1 MacBook Pro and Razer blade 17.
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When Dave2D reviewed this his still had the jiggly trackpad.
Stay away from these laptops, my work bought me a maxed out one. I have been using it for 2 months now. Trackpad doesn’t register clicks on the lower left 30% of the time. Fans pulse on and off suggesting the fan curve hysteresis isn’t setup properly. Sleep mode isn’t reliable, laptop has not woken up multiple times now. I would have been ticked off if I had wasted my own money on it. Compared to my personal MBP14 it isn’t even close in terms of experience. That laptop runs quiet, sleep always works and the trackpad is flawless.
I almost bought an XPS 13 OLED, but I went with a new MacBook Pro 14” because of all the QC issues with the XPS products. The Apple was $1000 more expensive than the Dell the way I equipped it, but it’s more powerful and I know it should last a long time.
Why can't PC manufactures get their QC issues resolved. Apple does not have these issues and their products last 10 years.
@@cmdrmonkey yeah I think Lenovo is the only one that compares to or beats Apple‘s high reliability track record
@@conheo4 Apple computers have QC issues as well just not as widespread. I remember they had a butterfly keyboard issue where keys get stuck, another issue with the screen cable being too thin and breaking which led to screens not working properly and these are just two that I remember on top of my head. Having said that, QC issues on the XPS are way way worse.
@@garrettw99 When you buy Lenovo products you are directly funding the Chinese Military...Dont do IT!! They are going to go the way of Huawei 😒😒
So in addition to widespread talk about QC problems, it seems everyone in the comments section who actually owns one, has serious problems with theirs. Hard pass but a heartfelt thanks to the honest commenters below! And Dell, get your act together!
What would you recommend other than Dell (not Apple) with fewer QC issues?
@@kundakaps anything than Dell has a better QC
@18 pregnant and proud the only qc problem is the trackpad. If people complain about thermals, that's only because they are using it for things it wasn't built for. If people complain about battery drain, as she said its under very high workload. Also battery life is great because on gaming laptops you max out at 3,4,5 hours on normal tasks, but on the XPS you get 8+ hours. When gaming, even though the xps isn't a gaming laptop, it lasts close to 5 hours max and the powerful gaming laptops last only 2-3 hours. Also the XPS performs better on battery life than when plugged in, and that's the whole idea. It's a thin and for it's dimensions light laptop that is made to be able to be carried around, unlike heavy and bulky gaming laptops. You guys should cut Dell some slack. The XPS has excellent build quality, not to mention one of the most color accurate screen, as was in the video (delta e value of 0.33). This machine is literally almost a MacBook, with windows running on it.
I bought this machine 4 days ago (the 32 GB RAM version). I need to run Matlab, HFSS and Maple for my PhD. It is a beast from what I have noticed. One problem though is sometimes one of the two speakers stops working and the solution is to reset the sound from the UEFI BIOS (You find the Sound in the menu and turn it off, push Apply, then turn it back on and push Apply and then reboot). Both still work!
I use my 9710 in always on plugged in mode, and under certain heavy load situations the battery level drops as low as 94% (in my case playing MS Flight Sim), seems that the 130W PSU cannot keep up with the CPU/GPU power consumption. Wish Dell would switch to AMD for their XPS lineup as their chips are more thermal efficient. As with other XPS laptops I owned, they are fantastic machines.
Maybe try Asus StudioBook 16, it's like a Ryzen version of the XPS 17
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Fantastic review (as always).
I've had the XPS 13 with 4K touchscreen for the last few years and I love it. I recently picked up the Razer Blade 14, but thinking of returning it due to the high risk of battery bloat with Razer laptops.
If Dell put higher refresh rates into these displays, I'd be tempted with an XPS 15 or XPS 17 instead of a gaming laptop. They tick a lot of boxes.
Never buy razer. They make products that break.
@@DanoFPV I did return it due to concerns about the battery.
Love your reviews, thanks!
I strongly encourage people to research both the trackpad issues that I and many others have had with this computer as well as the super random insane heating issue that happens. This isn't just a deal because it sucks when it happens, their support was also HORRENDOUS, causing myself and many others to waste like 15 hours on the phone only to receive refurbed units in place of our new units.. some of which suffer the same issue
this almost like a tradition for XPS product lines over the years XD
Dell's quality control has become so bad over the years it does not deserve the premium price it demands now.
Hi, re: the overheating issue, do you have the 4k or FHD display and which Nvidia chipset? Thx.
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I'm kind of surprised Lisa wasn't more critical of the keyboard. I recently returned the 4k touch / 3060 model, because the keyboard was terrible and felt squishy. You can even see in the video how much the chassis will flex around the keyboard.
Because if she's too critical, Dell might stop sending her review units in the future..
Not everyone views the keyboard as a deal breaker
@@BrianGlaze of course not. But she tends to put more focus on keyboard quality than a lot of reviewers do.
Sadly, the XPS QC is so bad. And the XPS 15 STILL feels left out to dry. It's so much worse in performance, thermals, ports, and battery life... Now, imagine an XPS 17 with no QC issues, AMD CPU, Nvidia RTX 3060 GPU, and a 1080p webcam... *Sigh...* Love your videos Lisa! Just wish the Wi-Fi card wasn't soldered too!
And 8:16, that's a deal breaker for me. Just freaking add a charging port and remove the lock slot. Bye bye Dell...
Specifically where is the QC so bad?
@@AirrowRocket The trackpad, thermals with the VRMs until 2020 (except for the 2019 i9 model), the wi-fi card, and the power drain.
Yeah, seriously, I laugh myself to tears whenever someone calls the XPS line the "best Windows laptops available", in spite of all these issues that have persisted for years.
Half of your complaints are a thing of the past. "So bad"?
You're right about QC issues.
I exchanged 3!!!! Three 9510's at best buy last weekend. 2 had crackling speakers. One had a faulty keyboard.
I own the New 2021 Dell XPS 15" 9510 ($2,200) model for a whole month I ended up returning it after so many issues. I ended up getting the new 2021 MacBook Pro 14" ($2,500). The dell XPS kept having overheating/throttling issues while performing medium workload. The XPS fan was running at full volume with just a few chrome tabs+Adobe photoshop open. Dell Battery life was about 3-5 hours with casual usage. The laptop design is beautiful, upgradeability is nice, and the screen is amazing! The XPS software is glitchy, weak battery, loud fan noise, and customer support are terrible! The MacBook Pro 14"/16" is slightly more expensive but it is so much better in every way!
I turn off Intel turbo boost in bios and problem solved. Crazy intel.
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I need Island Arrow Key for blind spotting the area. Just downsize Left and Right arrow height alike up/down arrow key (Period)
As a content creator/consumer this would be a contender for my next notebook, but on the whole, I think I'd stick with Alienware for build and I think their X17 edges this out on details. But great presentation, as always, and love today's shirt!
You put a numeric pad, apple macbook pro speakers and one more ssd slot and this would be the best notebook in the world bcause you can install windows, linux and hackintosh.
Excellent review - I'm looking for something with a bigger screen to watch Netflix etc on as well as having a bit more real estate for office work.
Do yourself a favor and do NOT buy this laptop. Dell's QC is a joke and the fact that this laptop drains battery when plugged in is a deal breaker for the market it's going for. I'd go with a different brand.
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Different brand such as?
@@kundakaps For Office work, most people will be fine with a Thinkpad, like an X1 Carbon/Yoga or even a T-series.
This is Laptop that has Big Display. But yeah, This Laptop, said some people has some issues. And Trackpad that still I remembered
I got this 17 inch 4k touch and the screen is huge it just looks amazing when you are looking at content downfall tho the battery won't give you any more than 6hrs performance on it is great too dell hopefully can give us a bios update when USB c 240w comes out so we can squeeze a bit more performance out of it I hope
What’s the refresh rate
@@wtf-kl7bk just 60fps which is kind of a bummer but I'm not much of a gamer so the 4k just looks awesome looks smooth as butter
you cant just software update for a connector to be able to take more power, it'd need a new board basically
@@bradhaines3142 I was afraid that could be the case I just thought maybe it being Thunderbolt 4 with such a high bandwidth but I'm not an electrician so I'll take your word for it
@@traitpichardo2046 thunderbolt 4 is just thunderbolt 3 with the lower specs removed, and its good for 100w, thats it. cant changed that by software, it would have to be designed to not melt or short at 240w to be able to do 240w.
I cannot believe the XPS 17 still can drain its battery under load. Waking while in standby is still a frequent issue. Get your shit together, Dell!
MacBook Pro's did that during the Core 2 Duo era, you needed charger + battery for full power to CPU. With just the outlet you had something like 80%.
@@stormchasingk9 It isn't 2006/2007 anymore; if they can't power a laptop with only a 130 Watt AC adapter, they shouldn't do it!
@@cameronbosch1213 I agree, there is no excuse.
@@stormchasingk9Meanwhile this year their notebook offer quick charging thanks to their super efficient M1 chipset.
I have a 5 year old XPS 15 that wakes up while asleep in my backpack. I pull it out and it’s hot as hell. Clearly ran itself to 0. I absolutely CANNOT BELIEVE they didn’t fix this one FIVE YEARS. COME ON. Totally and completely unacceptable.
Don't bother if you're thinking about using it with Linux. Bios doesn't keep fans running when needed. Overheats and shuts down display. Been waiting on update like forever now, dell is well aware of this issue.
I do not experience this at all.
@@garrett3421 resolved the issue by upgrading to kernel 5.15.12
I have been using one of these for a while. I have two ASUS ProArt 24 Inch monitors (PA248CRV) attached to it and I am running Linux Mint. What I have grown to hate is the fact that I have to open it up to turn it on.
dongle life on a 17 inch device is pretty dumb
before I comment I have to state that i got my 9510 refurbished for around $1600 (3050ti, 3.5kOlED, 32+512). I'm definitely biased as I got it really cheap. The QC is good overall. Solid, Sexy, amazing OLED screen. but the trackpad issue is REAL. wobbly, feels cheap. Useable, smooth 90% of the time but sometimes register weird click. You know when things work so well 90% of time and suddenly it sucks when you really need to get works done. it is just annoying. Not a dealbreaker but not pleasant to use. Definitely not macbook level. If you are paying full price for the machine then it's a WTF problem.
Sound: I own a late 2019 MacBook Pro and bought the Dell XPS 17 early 2020 for a back-up computer and as a media consumption device (watching MLB, CZcamsTv, etc). While I like the Dell and agree with everything in Lisa's review (she reviews the newer model but the speakers seem unchanged), I do want to alert anyone in the market who adores music and sound to definitely listen to this Dell in person before buying it. The sound is mediocre, at best, and this is especially evident when comparing it to the "best in class" Apple MacBook Pros. The Dell is much behind, and I feel that the review here minimizes the difference. Of course, coming from a lousy laptop sound to this Dell may not be as jarring to the ears, but if you come from Apple-land, or from a dedicated stereo, you will be unimpressed. Just something to note if you need quality sound from your mobile device.
If you really eager for better sound quality, just go external speaker, headphones or earspeakers instead.
@@hahaiseewhatyouredoing9086 it’s still a valid point for media consumption on a laptop.
@@hahaiseewhatyouredoing9086 That’s why my comment says “ if you need quality sound *from your mobile device* “
@@Burps___ Yeah, fair enough.
Usually Lisa herself would recommend people to use headphones if the speaker sounds bad/the fan is noisy.
great review. love the catchy text on the T.
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I so want to buy this laptop, but the GPU offering is simply too low for my needs.
I've lost an electron ! Are you positive ?
Bought the same configuration for work and some casual gaming. Considering the whole package there's no real alternative product at the market. I was originally eyeballing the Gigabyte Aero 17 but the matte 16:9 screen is a real downturner, its also much bulkier and won't fit into my daypack anymore. For optimum performance the XPS 17 should at least be slightly lifted, I'm using a Cooler Master U3 cooling pad equipped with 3x 120mm Noctua A12 5V fans for better thermals.
i have the 9710 with the 3060 RTX and 4k option... my issue and complaint is how hot and laggy it gets from time to time.... I dunno if this is a windows 11 problem but ive noticed this issue after getting the update. The track pad seems to be not so bad.. would have preferred a haptic feedback like the macs but its functional and works 95% of the time. Just like others have said... sometimes the mouse does act weird. other than that...wish the battery life was better and didn't run as hot. just opening couple chrome tabs and having discord on, I noticed almost over 70% ram usage and lag...
I have a 2021 model, and based on some comments here, I must have gotten lucky as I'm not having any of the issues mentioned. Keyboard and trackpad work fine and performs great under heavy loads with both 3D modeling as well as working with video and audio in Premiere and Cubase.
Does it overheat while doing 3D renders in your experience?
@@SaurabhBedarkar_1996 It definitely gets hotter when I do a larger or more complex render, but nothing to the point of where I feel it's overheating.
@@KeenMixer Thanks for the info! I guess that amount of heating should be manageable
I bought the xps 17 with the 4K and purchased a Logitech mouse to go with it as all Trackpads are finicky on laptops.
Not MacBooks though. I thought windows laptops were catching up to be honest.
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Hope that on 2022 Xps 15/17 lineup they go with 120hz screens ... Even Apple are now using them its a shame for the price to still be locked at 60.
An Xps 17 - 120hz Screen - 12th Gen Intel - RTX 3060 (Or 4060 why not) would be the perfect computer for me
I cannot wait for XPS 9520 XPS 9720 with Alder Lake P and E cores.
Came back to watch your review again. Would you clarify something: In the video you said that with the 4k screen at 200 nits (
Great review, as usual, and I love the t-shirt! From what I've read the overheating issue is caused by the Nvidia RTX GPU. Does anyone know if this problem occurs with the FHD+ display or only the 4k or both? And on both the 3050 and 3060? Thx.
This one looks way more simplified compared to the other conventional 17 inch laptops although I'm concerned about its typing quality that may undermine the edge of the large display.
Lisa never disappoint us with cool t-shirts 😎
Great info many thanks
Thanks for your review. Blessings on your day.
i had xps15 and the QC on the lineup is terrible just check dell blog posts everyone is complaining about the terrible job dell made, i had issues with battery and charging within the first year of using it.
Sharp is best in bussiness when it comes to IPS
Dell's thermal management is HORRENDOUS. Also, great video!
That's not true, you should see what they've done with some recent Alienware notebooks.
@@atomiq911 I support 1000+ Dells. In lab testing and in the real world they run much hotter than HP and Lenovo. Unsuitable for business use.
How do you think the battery life compares to the g15 AMD advantage?
Would you consider adding time markers on your video to help navigation?
Thanks for filming
Dells - the best laptop ever (after proper configuration)
Sure, also the Dell Latitude!
I wish the x17 came in that 17 inch 16:10 screen.
Very informative, thanks!
T-shirt link please
Good review. A question, if you or someone else reading this might know the answer: I'm considering this with the FHD rather than UHD+4k screen, so as to save battery life. The money savings is nice but not the priority. I've also read and seen on CZcams videos that the 4k doesn't do as well on the 16x10 aspect ratio screen. Do you think that FHP 17" screen would still look great? And how much better do you think the battery life might be if I forego the UHD+4k screen in favor of the FHP screen? I am considering a new Dell XPS 1710 laptop with the 11th gen i7 chip, the 3050 graphics, 32GB RAM (Maybe 16GB but 32 won't hurt, might help), 1 TB SSD storage, Windows 11, possibly buying MS Office, mostly for Outlook, and considering Webroot rather than McAfee for security.
My situation is that I am a young 60 and not a gamer, though I might like to try that now and again, and do not do video or music editing. I work from home and do heavy general use, heaving online, for long hours weekdays, and a good number of hours off and on evenings and weekends. I work from home, but am setting up a mobile capability with a wifi hotspot (Not sure if I should do hotspot in my car or in my phone yet, but one of them), so I can take my home office with me whenever and wherever I wish. Though I work from my home office most of the time. Need flexibility though. I do lots of online search, I research and trade stocks, have streaming quotes and watch lists and charts up constantly during market hours. I do lots of CZcams video research reviews, but I do enjoy a CZcams movie now and again during the week. Lots emailing, some chatting and Zoom. I use Chrome, or have been, and use Outlook a great deal (Thinking of dropping that), Word from time to time, and on a rare occasion Xcel. After February 2022 I'll likely be getting the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra +5G phone (though considering an Apple iphone 13 pro max). Am intrigued by Dell Connect between the laptop and phone, though don't know much about that.
I'd welcome answers to the above questions, and any thoughts or suggestions on anything else if you or anyone cares to. I'm older, and not techie, just analytical and like to be thorough. Thank you. And thumbs up for the review. Nicely done.
Greetings! I have a fully maxed out Dell XPS 17 9700 (the 2021 model) with the RTX 2060 GPU and 4k UHD Display. I also own the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. This is my daily driver. I do lots of high-res video editing on it and it performs exquisitely well. The Dell Connect & Android connectivity is great. I enjoy media consumption on this laptop. The 4k screen with the 16:10 aspect ratio does not disappoint. I use mine plugged in most times. When unplugged, the battery life will give a reasonable duration depending on what you're doing. With Wi-Fi connected or if video editing while unplugged for instance, I might get 2+hrs from it. If I'm just watching movies while unplugged, I can get 4+hrs from it. All round, it's an excellent workstation and worth every penny I paid to purchase and upgrade it (I put in 64GB RAM, and a 2nd 2TB SSD alongside the 1TB SSD it came with). I will be using mine for a long time. I definitely recommend you get the Dell XPS 9710 if you're considering it. I hope this helps. Cheers! 👍🏿
@@yoeyzee In terms of sharpness and overall screen quality, the 4K panel on the gaming focused Alienware laptops, are not as good as the 4K panel on the Dell XPS and Precision line of laptops/workstations. I own the XPS 17 9700 and it is my daily driver, so I confirm this. The 1080 panels only main advantage is in terms of better battery life, but it can't compare with the 4K panel for sharpness and color accuracy. I hope this helps.
@@GBOriginalCre8ors All useful replies. But now I'm as confused as ever. Since it's now mid February, I'll likely wait for the 2022 XPS 17 with the 12th gen Intel chip, which is supposed to be a big jump, more up in capability and I hope battery life. The XPS13 comes out with the 12th gen chip right away, but I've seen a few speculate that by April maybe May the XPS15 and XPS17 should come out with it. I'm thinking that if the battery life is that much better, then I might just get the UHD 4k screen instead of the FHD screen. I'll decide at the time. Though the prices have already begun to come down on the 11th gen ones, 1700+ for the xps17 FHD and 1900+ for the UHD now (It varies day by day but roughly that range).
@@Nate-zy5ce Since the 12th Gen chipped versions aren't too far off, then it's a good bet to wait a little longer and invest in that option. Glad you found my replies useful. Cheers!
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17 inch no USB-A port... I will stick with my 9550 with dying battery which a new good one is hard to find (I bought 2 of bad ones that barely last a hour with light load...).
Great review...thanks!
"with a 3050 OR a 3060" ooh!
"with an inte" *clicks off*
Loving that t-shirt!
Would it be possible for you to advise which is the better laptop between the Dell XPS 17 9710 and the Gigabyte AERO 17 HDR XD. Both Core i7, and to be used for work. I do use the numeric keypad on my current laptop as I work with figures. Which laptop is better for running numerous spreadsheets and big data?
Which one would you prefer between the XPS 17 or the Thinkpad Extreme Gen4?
Can you please give the review of dell data science work station 128 GB RAM
Where is the HDMI connector?
Thank you
I Wish it would come with IPS
Great shirt!
I've been dragging a dell xps for 3 years... I can't stand using a windows computer anymore.... It has no soul and on battery, it doesn't last three hours for graphics. I dream of spilling my coffee on the keyboard and of finally being able to afford a Mac like you. I tried linux mint, it's great, but I need the adobe suite... I'm going to make myself some more coffee with the hope of an accident as soon as possible 🥰🥴🥵🤪 the only good thing about my dell is the fan that drives away the flies 🤓 not to mention the keyboard that touches and marks the screen, and the pseudo carbon fiber that disappears around the keyboard...
The dell xps is not worth buying anymore. Microsoft surface studio is the way to go.
But why no numeric paddddd????? Ugh.... i can only dream
No key pad?!
I wouldn't even consider for a second a 17'" laptop that doesn't use all that available footprint to instal a number pad. Some of us are inputting numbers all the time and not having a number pad would drive us crazy.
Is that OLED display or not?
Fantastic thanks
I guess I would get one of these if I wasn’t tied up in the Apple ecosystem
Who in the hell needs ultra settings. People are just going wild with this gaming craze, it is just insane. and who in the hell wants to tolerate temperatures of 100 centigrate, that is 212 degrees fahrenheit and can cause dangerous burns if you touch the botoom or anywhere that heat is located. Why??
save Money save Money = save for M2!
My last XPS was not good. Probably staying away.
There's a 3rd gen. Now
I always like these big azz laptops. 13 inch is way too small
At this price Dell doesn't include a 1080 camera? That's a deal breaker!
Dongle life ! 2019
That Dell doesn't make a flagship bigscreen with a numeric pad is leaving a huge amount of money on the table... biz buyers would pump their numbers up fairly significantly... but I get copying the MacBook Pro is the brief here and that will likely never change...
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Very good
great laptop
Nice video
Lisa, I come to you first for laptops, 👍
Another great review! a little too late though
Nice Tee-Shirt!
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lenovo makes better laptops than Dell.
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There's ads on Facebook for this one. $86! Are those real ads?
That's probably a screen protector ad
@@shiverwind no it's a Dell laptop for reduced price.
@@wallsmartsmeidk whether you're trolling or not but that's clearly a scam.
I love you ma’am ❤️ nice upload.