Paul I got a Lexicon 224 and I’ve compared it to UAD emulation and it ain’t the same, nowhere near. Also it’s cool to have h/w reverb and deal with less latency if you are using a mixer. Recording with reverb is a really good tip.
Super cool! Yeah it's a shame that often times we are investing in software that doesn't sound nearly as good and isn't even something tangible / you could resell again... I bet your 224 sounds awesome compared to any computer reverb out there!
I use an Alesis Midiverb IV, it's more fun and even sounds better than any software reverb I've ever heard, but if I had enough room in my studio I'd buy a real plate reverb
The Quadraverb is amazing too, I had one in 90 years and the idea of lot people was that it couldn't sound well just because it was Alesis and it was cheap, wich is a " bit " stupid!
Wow really nice video! I bought one once for 50 euros with some wonky knobs and it sometimes doesn't boot. But I use it nonetheless, but never cared to delve deep into the possibilities. For one, I didn't know about the pitch shift effect. Gonna delve deeper into it!
Very cool. Mine was also quite buggy when I got it as it was sitting in a studio unused for a long time. I took it to my favorite electronics repair guy and he was able to swap some caps and clean the pots and get it all a bit more stable for a pretty low cost. Totally worth it in my opinion to make sure it can last another 5-10 years with no problems.
I would never recommend people use a shitty Scarlett for external hardware. If you work in the box, the only downside of the cheap AD/DA converters is the quality of your monitoring. When you use hardware processing, you are degrading your sound TWICE. Out of your DAC and back into your ADC. That's why professionals spend so many thousands on decent AD/DA. Because some degradation will occur everytime you convert between hardware and digital, best practice is to only do so when the benefit of "analog" gear over plugins exceeds the cost of adding noise, jitter, etc to the signal. So if you're running audio in/out through a Focusrite Scarlett/Clarett to use a Universal Audio 1176 revA, it's generally better to implement the 1176 during tracking or not at all. If you have the same 1176 patch through send/return on a Focusrite-Pro RedNet A16R, go for it. If you have a Klark Teknik knockoff "clones" compressor and an A16R, you're probably better off using a UAD2/Waves emulation plugin. If you have a KT knockoff compressor and a Scarlett, the plugin is a much better option.
Also, this particular reverb is generally considered too noisy for modern studio use to begin with. Not all gear is intended for studio use. Most of the cheap hardware (like this) is made for stage and band practice. The noise is less of an issue for stage because the mixing console, amplifiers, acoustics of the venue, etc tend to make enough noise that it drowns it out. A little bit of noise from analog gear can add character. In fact, noise is an essential part of hardware emulation... but audible noise in a reverb for studio use is bad. It may still be usable, however, most reverb plugins out there will perform better in comparison. On the topic of AD-DA shaping sound in a negative way, reverb hardware is NOT analog. They implement converters to change the analog signal to digital, perform their processes, then convert the digital signal back to analog to travel back out of the XLR/¼" cable. Don't expect the converters on an old lower end unit like this to be better, or even as good as, the ones in a cheap amateur all-in-one interface. Your signal has to go: Interface Digital to Analog Converter > Reverb Analog to Digital Converter > Reverb DAC > Interface ADC. That's a lot of subpar conversion being introduced into your signal. Now, I'm not saying it's never okay or that it will always ruin every song; but it's absolutely something that should be considered before choosing to buy or even use analog equipment.
Paul I got a Lexicon 224 and I’ve compared it to UAD emulation and it ain’t the same, nowhere near. Also it’s cool to have h/w reverb and deal with less latency if you are using a mixer. Recording with reverb is a really good tip.
Super cool! Yeah it's a shame that often times we are investing in software that doesn't sound nearly as good and isn't even something tangible / you could resell again... I bet your 224 sounds awesome compared to any computer reverb out there!
"Recording with reverb is a really good tip" :D I'm dead
with the bands i work for i use different consoles some don't have the Quality FX and with outboard its the same every time
Very good point! it can be hard to get consistent sounds and presets when using onboard FX all time and you may be switching consoles!
I use an Alesis Midiverb IV, it's more fun and even sounds better than any software reverb I've ever heard, but if I had enough room in my studio I'd buy a real plate reverb
in audio heaven we will all have enough room for plate reverb 🙏
The Quadraverb is amazing too, I had one in 90 years and the idea of lot people was that it couldn't sound well just because it was Alesis and it was cheap, wich is a " bit " stupid!
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Wow really nice video! I bought one once for 50 euros with some wonky knobs and it sometimes doesn't boot. But I use it nonetheless, but never cared to delve deep into the possibilities. For one, I didn't know about the pitch shift effect. Gonna delve deeper into it!
Very cool. Mine was also quite buggy when I got it as it was sitting in a studio unused for a long time. I took it to my favorite electronics repair guy and he was able to swap some caps and clean the pots and get it all a bit more stable for a pretty low cost. Totally worth it in my opinion to make sure it can last another 5-10 years with no problems.
I would never recommend people use a shitty Scarlett for external hardware. If you work in the box, the only downside of the cheap AD/DA converters is the quality of your monitoring. When you use hardware processing, you are degrading your sound TWICE. Out of your DAC and back into your ADC. That's why professionals spend so many thousands on decent AD/DA.
Because some degradation will occur everytime you convert between hardware and digital, best practice is to only do so when the benefit of "analog" gear over plugins exceeds the cost of adding noise, jitter, etc to the signal.
So if you're running audio in/out through a Focusrite Scarlett/Clarett to use a Universal Audio 1176 revA, it's generally better to implement the 1176 during tracking or not at all. If you have the same 1176 patch through send/return on a Focusrite-Pro RedNet A16R, go for it. If you have a Klark Teknik knockoff "clones" compressor and an A16R, you're probably better off using a UAD2/Waves emulation plugin. If you have a KT knockoff compressor and a Scarlett, the plugin is a much better option.
Also, this particular reverb is generally considered too noisy for modern studio use to begin with. Not all gear is intended for studio use. Most of the cheap hardware (like this) is made for stage and band practice. The noise is less of an issue for stage because the mixing console, amplifiers, acoustics of the venue, etc tend to make enough noise that it drowns it out. A little bit of noise from analog gear can add character. In fact, noise is an essential part of hardware emulation... but audible noise in a reverb for studio use is bad. It may still be usable, however, most reverb plugins out there will perform better in comparison.
On the topic of AD-DA shaping sound in a negative way, reverb hardware is NOT analog. They implement converters to change the analog signal to digital, perform their processes, then convert the digital signal back to analog to travel back out of the XLR/¼" cable. Don't expect the converters on an old lower end unit like this to be better, or even as good as, the ones in a cheap amateur all-in-one interface.
Your signal has to go: Interface Digital to Analog Converter > Reverb Analog to Digital Converter > Reverb DAC > Interface ADC. That's a lot of subpar conversion being introduced into your signal.
Now, I'm not saying it's never okay or that it will always ruin every song; but it's absolutely something that should be considered before choosing to buy or even use analog equipment.
@@DeadlyMixKrew it is not cheap in build, and was not cheap in price when new (around $1000) and not noisy
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