Fire Fight | Air Canada Flight 797
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Air Canada Flight 797 was a scheduled trans-border flight that flew from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport to Montréal-Dorval International Airport, with an intermediate stop at Toronto Pearson International Airport. On 2 June 1983, the McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32 operating the service developed an in-flight fire behind the washroom that spread between the outer skin and the inner decor panels, filling the plane with toxic smoke. The spreading fire also burned through crucial electrical cables that knocked out most of the instrumentation in the cockpit, forcing the plane to divert to an alternative landing field. Ninety seconds after the plane landed and the doors were opened, the heat of the fire and fresh oxygen from the open exit doors created flashover conditions, and the plane's interior immediately became engulfed in flames, killing 23 passengers who had yet to evacuate the aircraft.
Credits go to Mayday (Air Crash Investigation, Air Emergency, Air Disasters in other places) for the video clips of the flash fire and aftermath!
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Rest in Peace, Alex Drdul, my uncle, died in this fire.
rest in piece your uncle
he will be remebered forever in our hearts :(
I'm so sorry.
Rest in peace bro
I sorry for your loss dude
Sorry for your loss
How horrible for those people - after the scare, you land and the plane rolls to a stop, and you think, "Ok, we made it." And then you're in an inferno. RIP
I remember studying this event when I was training to be a flight attendant. They showed us pictures of the victims' autopsies. By then our lavatories were equipped with smoke detectors. I remember on one flight, the detector went off in one of the lavs. The images of the Air Canada victims flashed through my mind. It turned out to be a passenger using aerosol hairspray. In those days smoking was still allowed on overseas charters. People were irresponsible and would smoke while standing in the aisles. They would flick the ashes wherever. It was nerve wracking. I know the smoking ban inconvenienced some passengers, but I think it was the best for everyone's health and safety. May the victims Rest In Peace. (I realize this tragedy was not caused by careless cigarette smoking. )
"Someone threw a rag down the toilet," Cameron remarked. He thought nothing of it at all. I hope he and Ouimet saw some of those pictures, and helped develop that training.
Rest in peace Stan Rogers, he died on this flight. One of Canadas best folk singers.
It was terrible that they got the plane down okay, but the flash fire that erupted when they opened the doors killed so many.
Guynumber7 what about the others who died? Not important enough?
I as about to ask if this was that flight
They determined that the passengers that died were dead before the fire erupted - heard it on Air Disasters
Rob Nel, does this mean we cannot mention one of the deceased without also mentioning all of the deceased? Can it not be assumed that most of us are normal human beings who feel sad when half the occupants of a plane burn to death on the tarmac?
I’m glad the crew eventually received awards. They were able to get a burning DC-9 on the ground and save lives. Unfortunately, there was that flash fire. I say great job to the crew of flight 797!!
Absolutely stunning that they didnt declare an emergency the second they saw smoke coming from the bathroom. The pilots rightfully so will live with this colossal unforgivable mistake for the rest of their lives.
Capt. Cameron was with Air Canada until retirement. He died in 2016.
F/O Ouimet (and Cameron) appeared on _Mayday_ in 2007 when Flight 797 was dramatized. Further info on Ouimet is not available online.
Still though, probably wouldn't have made much of a difference as the fire was there regardless and opening doors/windows to let passengers/crew out would have created the blaze.
@@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 @dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 .. I dunno. Since the wind would be traveling from the front to the back the flames may not move forward very fast. Just knock out a dozen back windows to create a 1 way fast flow. Maybe myth busters should try it, see what happens
Forty years ago, they didn’t have the level of double protection fire retardant safety we do today, and yet they treated fire so nonchalantly.
Humans have always been cavalier with fire. 100 years ago it was a tool of everyday life. Open flame was common. And most of the time, nothing went wrong. So we got blasé about it. And with the advent of universal electricity and innumerable mechanical devices, we remained blasé about _their_ tendency to burn.
Thanks for the informative and interesting video. My first cousin, Chris Drake, was one of the passengers that died on this plane, and it seems like it definitely did not have to happen.
Sorry for your loss...may he rest in eternal peace 🙏
My Grandmother was on this plane prior to this during the explosive decompression incident. The flight was leaving Logan airport in Boston headed to Halifax. They turned around and made a safe landing. Seems this thing was a lemon !
Well actually, there is an interesting story between Air Canada's C-FTLU and Ozark's N994Z. After the tragic Cincinnati incident/accident, on December 20, 1983, another DC-9-30 was involved in a smaller, but serious incident. The plane, registered N994Z with Ozark Air Lines, was operating as Flight 650, from Sioux City, Iowa. It hit a snow plow while landing in Sioux Falls, SD, killing the snow plow operator and separating the right wing from the aircraft. The right wing from C-FTLU, the Cincinnati accident aircraft, was used to replace the one separated on N994Z after the incident. The aircraft was later sold to Republic Airlines, and acquired by Northwest Airlines after Republic merged with Northwest. N994Z, with C-FTLU's replacement right wing attached , operated until around 2005.
They were really offbase for faulting the flight attendants for not finding the source of the fire unless they had access to the wiring of the plane? Thats where the fire started. There was a wire touching metal somewhere causing a short.Thats the smell the Flight Attendant smelled, a wire heating up. When the Cpt tried to reset the breakers they popped back on him. That denotes a direct short in that circuit. Some of the wiring somewhere in the aircraft was touching something metal. They checked where the wire was spliced together but did they check the rest of it? Most of it was probably burned in the fire?
Incredible display of airmanship. I wonder if Cameron and Ouimet were thinking about the disaster of Saudia Flight 163 just three years before, as they wrestled their stricken DC-9 back to Earth to save many lives. If only the passengers of the Saudia flight had pilots this competent.
Any sign of smoke/fire is an emergency!! LAND!
Not in those days it wasn't. Back then people could still smoke on planes and fires in the trash can in the bathroom were common as people smoked in there and threw their cigarettes in the trash, causing small trash fires. Furthermore, the captain was told that the smoke was clearing. He most likely believed it to be a small trash fire.
yeah they stayed in the air for way too long. that was stupid.
Given that explosion with flames throughout the cabin it was a miracle that those 18 passengers and the crew survived.
The fire started in the left engine power feeders that run in a trough between the floor beams and the cabin floor. They transition up through a metal web and were chafing. All the feeder wires were arcing and that caused the fire. This generated an AD to inspect and repair them. The F/A's wouldn't be able to identify where the fire was coming from as it's all hidden behind lav and cabin sidewall panels. For the NTSB to criticize the cabin crew is stupid. The Capt should have declared an emergency as soon as it was reported. Fire only gets worse onboard.
I think the FA's were cleared of that criticism in an appeal
Amazing landing! Don Cameron was an amazing pilot who really wanted all of those people to get of that plane.Sad that some did die but it could have been much worse.
Wait, so lemme get this straight. The NTSB criticized the crew for failing to find the source of the fire in the few minutes they had, while at the same time dealing with passengers safety, intense smoke, their lives at stake, as well as trying to fly a plane whose systems were failing one after another. Yet the NTSB had hours, days, weeks, months to scour that plane in perfect conditions all safe and sound and they NEVER found the source of the fire. WTF?
If I would've been the capt of that plane, I would've taken the word of my 1st officer over a flight attendant about the status of a fire, or even went back there to check it out myself.
I have begun to find myself shouting advice to the pilot on the screen. Lol. I'm telling "If the door is hot, DON'T OPEN IT"! LOL
I remember Curtis Mathes stores. I knew the company rapidly declined in the '80s, but had no idea their CEO died.
The capt was so thoughtful and considerate to his co pilot, I'm glad they made it out. Sad about the others caught in the fire.
You are confused...the first officer actually aided the captain in getting off the plane with the help of a firefighter.
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a bit of advice, if i may? change *NOTHING*. the format, style, presentation... all of it is great. it's nice to have a channel that's steady and reliable. the info is accurate (as far as i know) and steady.
just keep them coming. airplane drama is always interesting.
ScotSpeed Only thing is the older videos were 16:9 while the newer videos are more like cinematic 21:9. I like this format better but I wished he would crop the video instead of compressing it. It deforms the shapes of objects.
ScotSpeed your post is dramatic
Less Fatalities? You kidding! The point of these videos are to improve the structure, design and technology of airplane travel. It seems you need to watch the Hinderberg Air Baloon disaster to bring you back to 2018. 1 Casualty is 1 casualty too much!!!
Scott let Allec do his own fonts and style and presentations so please don't force him
Indeed. I'd rather no fatalities.
Heres your dinner...oh btw we have a fire on the plane LOL
Laughing at people dying. I hope that comes back to haunt you.
Nothing like a little food to make terrible news easier to digest
It would have been nice to serve a cocktail along with the dinner.
@@TheHaratashi yes I thought the same thing.
John Isom eat first we'll put it out later with pee or something.
When there’s smoke, get the f on the ground. Not in a little while, now. Seen several of these and the crews always wait too long.
Yes, Swiss Air 111 comes to mind.
I agree with you completely. It's not like they can just pull over and see what's going on.
@@jamesbottleman69 What about Saudia 163? That crew consisted of three complete buffoons.
How can any fire on a plane not be serious and requiring emergency landing?
Allec, how you recreate these accidents on a flight simulator is remarkable. I can just imagine how much work is involved to produce these videos. The realism of these videos is phenomenal ! Great job!
Those videos are really powerful and have very good educational value, Alec. You managed to capture and recreate the feel of Mayday episodes in FS2004 very well. It's good to learn from those air disasters that happened in the past so that new ones won't happen again in the future.
LOL... Like repairing an airplane which suffered explosive decompression and the loss of the tail cone! Bad idea! lol
His videos are exactly that! I thoroughly enjoy these. Great way to fill a part of my day as a retiree👍
The flight attendant's comments to the captain were pretty amazing. We have a fire but it will be okay. Um, not for the 23 people who died in the fire. The captain had little to no choice in the matter and I doubt he could have set the plane down much sooner. Still sad that anyone died from the accident.
The flight crew didn't appreciate the seriousness of the fire, and squandered precious time. Today it's known that if you have an inflight fire, you have about 8 min to put it out, and 15 min to land, before you're literally cooked.
I like your presentations format. I like the captions that have a way of unfolding the events without unnecessary chattering of crew.
"Captain, there's smoke billowing out of the lav." "Yeah, let me finish my Salisbury steak first."
Captain we're on fire. Here's your sandwich and peanuts.
haha I l love Canadian humor.
More like:
"Here's your sandwich and cola, do you need a napkin? Oh, and we're fire, just FYI."
hope you dont mind captain but theyre now roasted peanuts not just plain salted peanuts
The captain and first officer were later awarded for their heroic efforts in bringing the plane down. Captain David Cameron's heroic efforts in landing his plane in Cincinnati meant he got to live another 33 years (he died of Parkinson's disease in 2016 at 84), but I know that he lived the rest of the time he spent here with survivor's guilt. At the end of the Mayday episode covering Air Canada Flight 797 (episode was filmed in 2007 making him 75 at the time), he said, "It's a shame we didn't get everybody out. It still bothers me,". However, I think that he and Ouimet couldn't have done anything more than they already did because it was inevitable that the oxygen when they opened the emergency exit doors that the fire would tense up. I hope he didn't feel too much shame.
And yet they were awarded...
The changes since that time are amazing. I'm sure that they have better fire suppression today as a result of these kinds of incidents.
Always love your videos. This one is no exception, great work!
I totally agree. There isn't a vid that i don't like on your channel.
NTSB really are savage pricks. Criticising cabin crew for not finding the exact fault? Wait.. cabin crew are electro-mechanical engineers, now? Who knew!
How about supplying them with planes that don't explode in flames? Sounds reasonable to me.
it wasn't the plane's fault, it was the rapid increase in oxygen levels that caused the explosion. but yes i agree they were a bit too critical.
Farhan The Badass Scizor Yeah, I get that. Still sucks.
The investigators could not find the cause of the crash, I saw the mayday episode. They just randomly chose something after 15 month of investigation, or so, without any conclusive decision.
Diabetic Alien Typical scapegoat behaviour. not acceptable.
Drew Layton I agree they are so annoying I MEAN THEY LANDED THE PLANE SAFELY LIKE U MAD BRO
You want fries with that , oh there’s an uncontrolled fire back there as well .
I was the boarding agent for that infamous flight out of D/FW that afternoon. This accident brought many sleepless nights for me
Why not criticize the NTSB for not finding the exact cause of the fire?
why criticize them? They tried to find the source, but couldn't find it.
Giordan Diodato because they criticized the crew for the same reason.....did you watch the end?
They tried their best
Why, they can't find everything Everytime.
The pilots were flying around to destroy the evidence. Can't blame the NTSB for that
Allec I appreciate you For being so understanding and creative
The crew saved themselves first.
Crew -Yes we got an award for saving ourselves!
I've had smoke in lavatory warnings before and it's the exact same horrid sound as incorrect Take off Config and the Engine/APU fire warnings but it's always been someone smoking in the toilet. Now if we declared an emergency and dived down to the nearest airport every single time this happened then my airline alone would probably have at least 10 Mayday calls per day. We have to check what's causing it and then make a decision. Could or should they have made the decision faster? Honestly, yes. But given the situation, the adrenaline and fear - I definitely don't blame them and unless you've had the exact same situation you can't judge them. Both the public and the NTSB are full of armchair pilots who have no idea what it's like to deal with an emergency situation. I heard of one captain failing his simulator recurrent and eventually being fired because he decided that an uncontrollable fire in the cabin wasn't worth diverting over and decided to continue to destination 200nm away... He had 20,000 hours. Thank god it was just a sim.
These guys put the plane on the ground and saved almost half the passengers and I can tell you that if smoke is already coming into the cockpit then the chances of doing even that are minimal. The fact that the Pilots' Union backed them up on this is testament to this. They don't do that with every accident. I'm disgusted at the efforts to put the blame entirely on the pilots and cabin crew who did a pretty damn good job in my opinion. There seems to be this desperation to quickly categorise Pilots as either Sullys or Bonins. Heroes or idiots and God forbid you make a single mistake or take a minute too long to come the right decision.
"You gotta admit, there is something comically head scratching in the flight attendant bringing the captain his meal AND telling him their was a fire in the lav at the same exact time. It does show an almost comical lack of urgency, whether it would have changed anything is up for debate.
Heroes that fail are regarded as idiots. Hindsight is 20/20 and it is much easier to calmly pick apart the actions of the crew while sitting at a desk in a climate controlled environment with no time pressure. I believe that there are many more situations which are successfully resolved by the crews that we never hear about.
as i watched this drama unfold, i thought to myself "they are taking WAY to long to decide to land and treating the possibilitiy of a fire much too lightly."
the ntsb had it right when they criticized the crew for their casual response. and why did they receive awards? they all lived and 23 passengers died.
side note: i haven't seen the name "curtis mathes" in YEARS! we used to own a curtis mathes console tv.
I agree 100% with you. That pilot was an absolute idiot for continuing flying while there was a fire on board, regardless of how insignificant it could be. You not not continue flying as usual when there is fire on board. PERIOD.
Agreed. Also why not drop the masks and depressurize the cabin? The end result would have been lower atmospheric oxygen levels. I don't think I would have returned to the cockpit without trying to extinguish the fire. The first officer had access to the tail compartment but didn't want to hurt his precious hands opening things.
Matthew Vincent
You go ahead and remove a pot that boiled dry on a stove top with your bare hands while it's still glowing.
It's easy to LARP as a tough guy on youtube. It is almost impossible to hold onto something that's too hot as there is a spinal reflex pulling your hand back when you try.
Not to mention, opening a door with a hot handle is a very good way to get a backdraft in your dumb face. Plenty of firefighters died this way already, and they have gear to deal with the heat.
I agree, pilot is so calm and wanna eat their meal. I can't believe this. They should descent and find airport to land immediately when fire begin.
ScotSpeed exactly how I felt. How can they receive awards when so many passengers were killed? Not right.
As soon as you see DC-9 on You Tube you know it's not going to have a good ending. They were very lucky to get it down and it's a shame people died so near safety.
I've watched a few of these videos now & it never ceases to amaze me that they would think the smoke will jus go away & all is well. It's not a car u can pull over.
Has happened crew smells a little smokelands can't find anything wrong. People tend to be optimistic sometimes till it's too late.
If they thought the smoke was serious enough to warrant moving the passengers then they should have done an emergency landing of the plane. WTF Flight Attendant Benetti, you don’t mess with fire on an aircraft 30K+ ft in the sky.
It wasn't Benetti's fault he did correct...except for not being accurate about the fire but Im sure if he really thought it would be dangerous, he'd said it too.
It was a time when smoking was allowed and trash can fires were common
@LUCKYDUCKY 62 and you are a moron
"After the ship has sunk, everyone knows how she could have been saved".
As soon as I see DC-- it was a doomed plane.
I was 17 ( 1982) and leaving San Francisco for NY. I checked when I booked the ticket that it was not a DC-10, it was a 747. They changed the equipment at some point , as soon as I got on I knew it was not a 747, it was a DC-10. I told the flight attendant I was getting off. She was angry, she said You want me to flip though 300 tickets? Yes I do, because you will fly on this contraption does not mean I will. Took a flight 90 minutes later.
I thought it was gonna be a happy ending when they touched down 😥
Quite a bit to analyze here. Chronologically we have to start with the aircraft having a history of a moderate to severe repair which entailed replacing the tail section. Depending on the age of the aircraft at the time of the initial damage, and the extent of the repair, those factors alone could have easily been the cause of the electrical issue which in turn caused the fire. Additionally the available guidelines at that time for the specific components repaired and/or replaced could have been found to be less than adequate after many cycles of use. For example: If it were deemed acceptable to splice wire with mere electrical tape vs butt connectors or whatever the standard repair was at the time ( I know it was likely neither of those BTW, just using a Neanderthal example). Improper routing of wires either by initial design of the aircraft (unlikely) or during the course of the repair and the effects of metal fatigue during multiple cycles of cabin decompression could have abraded one or more wires causing a short to ground. Next is the actions of the crew. It's easy to critique the actions of another pilot from a keyboard. The crew was assessing the situation and now that we know the unfortunate outcome, we have the luxury of saying they should have prepared for an emergency landing at the pop of the first circuit breaker. Pilots need to remain calm to be effective, and unfortunately calm and collective involves using more time during the analytical stages of component failure in an aircraft while in flight. The pilot landed this aircraft without power yolk assist and was as fatigued as a boxer upon doing so. Once on the ground it appears no communication was made with fire personnel to ascertain any alternate way to stop the cabin from exploding upon introducing oxygen. As for the first officer bailing out the window, well once he's incapacitated he definitely can't help anyone so I would say rather than just sit and wait for assistance he was being proactive. Bless the souls of all involved in this tragedy.
why were they still in the air with smoke everywhere? they took their sweet ass time.
Extremely professional content. Nice job.
I learned to fly in 1991. My instructor told me that anytime you even suspect a fire, declare an emergency and land asap. This crew was to unconcerned for too long. I was in a car fire that started with an electrical short. I stopped as soon as I thought something was wrong. In less than 10 minutes the car was destroyed.
Plane was not put back in service! Plane ended up at ILN and parts used by ABX Air on other DC-9s
Flight Attendant Kayama: Excuse me, there's a fire in the washroom at the back.
Me as pilot: HOLY F*CKING SH*T I NEED TO GET THIS PLANE ON THE GROUND!!!!!!!!!!!
Use white letters that have dark borders so they can be read against light backgrounds.
Glen Winstein turn your brightness up fuckstick
r_streit twitch right, because everyone will do that for one video. Get real.
Calling someone a fuckstick because they aren't turning up their brightness is not the brightest move. Pun intended. Maybe he is using a Windows Phone, so he has to close his browser, search through his apps, find settings, search through settings, find the brightness, turn it up, re-open his browser, search up CZcams, and find the video. Not everyone's devices are made by Apple.
When there's white lettering on a white background like a cloud, no amount of brightness is going to help.
The issue isn't brightness, it's lack of contrast...therefore, Glen Winstein's suggestion is correct.
Man, I know I am speaking as a person right now reacting to the video. But, if you were a Pilot, wouldn't you always live by the slogan: "Better safe, than sorry!" In my mind, in an airplane, I am pretty sure that I would be 1,000 times more dogmatic in my actions/reactions. Whenever smoke was detected ANYWHERE on an airplane! It's just a horrible situation, but I think the Pilot needed to take a look and evaluate the situation. But, we all know just how perfect our hindsight is, when dealing with the past.
3 years ago when I first saw this video I was critical of the Captain and commented so (which Ive now deleted). Rewatching this video 3 years later, and having forgot about what happened, I am now more sympathetic to the Captain. That's weird how my viewpoint changed 180. Great video Allec, compulsive viewing.
That crew needed a course in Sense of Urgency
Damn I thought they were gonna be okay after the landing!
That visual of the plane in flames from the outside was horrifying. Right when I was ready to cheer for them landing safely.
RIP
To the 23 passengers of Air Canada Flight 797
HORRIBLE.....THEY BURNT UP,,,,IM CRYING
awesome video allec!!
Thank You Alec, you are one of my favorite subscribers!
The survivors can officially say they survived a flashover, a firefighter's worst nightmare. That is basically what happened when the fresh air hit the fire.
I'm no pilot but surely if there's even a hint of smoke the captain should be informed immediately and the plane put on the ground asap.
Exactly, just because you can move the passengers forward out of the smoke doesn't make everything OK.
BabyFruitBat “Yeah, economy class is a roaring inferno, but don’t worry, we closed the curtains.”
Pilots were too complacent. Sounds like the captain was more bothered about finishing his meal.
Where did you get that from? There was nothing like that in this video.
Fire on board, 23 died, severe structural damage. Repaired and put back in service.... goodness gracious
Your titles read like episodes of Forensic Files. I love it.
Anytime you have smoke on a plane, you land as soon as possible.
Common sense. The pilot was at fault.
That's not exactly what happened it was a time when smoking on board was allowed and fires in the lavatory trash were common the Captain was never informed that anyone suspected it was anything other than a "routine" trash can fire in fact he was told the smoke was clearing it's not until he started losing systems that he realized the true nature of the problem
Back then everyone smoked on airplanes it was common
Bear in mind that as soon as they open the cabin to the outside atmosphere they had a flash fire. The pilot got it on the ground just fine but the big problem started was oxygen was introduced to the cabin. remember they made a point of not using the oxygen mask so they didn't introduce oxygen to the atmosphere inside the aircraft. About the only thing that could have been done for a better outcome would have been for all emergency exits to have been used. But as they said, the passengers were not instructed and how to use them at that point as they are now. Hopefully we have all learned from this incident.
I have only seen a couple of these aircraft emergency videos, but there have been enough fire-on-a-plane incidents
to demonstrate that airlines are/were not serious enough about fire safety and control. A fire in a plane is like a
leak in a submarine: figure it out now, and make sure it can't get worse.
Thank you for doing this flight
Man, well made video! How much does it take to edit these?
These are really great videos man. Be nice to see Germanwings Flight 9525.
OMG WOW HOW AWFUL FOR EVERYONE...MY CONDOLENCES GOT TO THE FAMILIES OF THE DECEASED... MY EYES ARE FLOODED WITH TEARS..DEAR GOD WHY... R.I.P TO ALL THAT LOST THEIR LIVES...GOODNIGHT TO YOU ALL..XX😢😢😢
Excellent, as always
Awesome video!
I changed the comment.
Should a landed at Cincinnati Ohio. Immediately. Sad one!
You are incredible, Allec
And you're more incredible Marshal !
YAY I wanted this so bad thank you Allec!
"Yay"? Really?
As a pilot in 2018 I'm shocked by how nonchalantly the flight attended reported the fire. I'm also shocked at how slowly the pilots responded responded.
They were Canadians! What did you expect?
*Pilots jump out of window while passengers are blown up.*
*Awarded medals for bravery*.
So they are supposed to head into the fire and clog the doors even more? Hell, the pilot passed out from smoke and
exhaustion as soon as they stopped. Dumb comment.
J Stenberg They could have thought of something.
Miller Theory shut up moron. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Where there's smoke there's fire. Extinguish until the source of the fire is fully out.
Well at least the flight crew saved themselves...wonderful self preservation.
Always the air Canadas catching on fire
Air Canada actually had only three fires. One in 1969, one in 1973, this one. Considering that the airline started flying under the name Air Canada in 1965, It was "Trans Canada Air Lines" before then, how can three planes catching fire mean that the airline's fleet is a fire magnet?
Allec Joshua Ibay the planes exlode everyone die and did captain and co side:(
All 5 crew members safely evacuated
allec jousha ibay do my video idea
allec jousha ibay this is the worst soundtrack ever
So did the Captain ever get to eat his food?
Yeah. Was supposed to be fresh Salmon but he got it smoked.
He had broiled flesh from the victims of the fire. Can’t let it go to waste....
Paul Rodriguez:He ate Cap’n Crunch cereal 🥣
yes, he ate a bunch of foam...
No, that's why he was exhausted and unable to climb out.
In fairness to the pilots, they determined that the problem was serious and got the plane safely on the ground within 20 minutes. What killed the victims was a flash fire that could have been just as intense if 5 or 10 minutes had been saved. So their response, while cautious, doesn't seem negligent to me. Compared to the SwissAir fire, they acted decisively, got down quicker and saved more lives. They were just in a bad situation from the start.
I get the impression the flight attendants were slow in getting the doors opened for the passengers which resulted in so many casualties but the cockpit crew wasted no time in getting out.
The flight attendants got their cute little fannies out of the plane asap. Wouldn't you????
Well, the outcome was tragic and very sad but it could have been a lot worse with all on board dying. Had they not been so close to a major airport then the outcome would very likely have been much worse. I'm only a private pilot (since 1975 / 6) and having watched many air accident videos and read many reports of same, it seems to me that, and with the benefit of hindsight, at the first sign of smoke in the cabin a Mayday should be immediately called and then an approved descent obtained straightaway whilst ATC look for the nearest airport. If the smoke proves to have cleared by the time the plane lands then tough, .... safety comes first. Get the plane down quickly and start the descent, if at cruise altitude, as soon as possible. Any smoke in the cabin should be treated as an immediate emergency in my opinion. This may not appeal to the airlines' owners as it incurs huge costs but it is the correct thing to do if lives are to be saved. When on Mayday, ATC will give the pilots absolutely every priority.
It takes some time to descend from 35,000 feet at a descent rate of say 2500 fpm, perhaps 3000 fpm and a quickly initiated descent may eventually help the situation greatly putting the plane at the best height for the quickest possible landing. So much depends on where the emergency occurs of course, this crew were fortunate to be so close to a major airport.
It's a good thing they didn't open that lavatory door Mr. Harvey, that would have resulted in a back draft. That would have been fatal.
Hindsight is 20 20.
alan harvey:You sound more like a private novelist
What I want to know is what alternative was there to immediately opening the exit doors, which in turn fed oxygen into the cabin and caused the flash-over?
Jason Meadows I’m wondering that too. Stay and choke on smoke to death? I’d want out ASAP. If it was on fire how were they to do anything else. It was going to be bad either way. 😢
Unfortunately, there's no alternative here. The only answer is to get passengers off as quickly as possible. There's a reason that aircraft must be able to be evacuated in 90 seconds (with half the available exits) in order to be certified, after 90 seconds is when non-survivable conditions (like a flashover) are likely to develop. The introduction of oxygen may have caused the flashover in this case but a flashover can be triggered simply from the intense heat released as the combustible materials of the cabin ignite. A tightly enclosed space like a plane will hold in heat and combustion products which make the fire even more severe, you really just want everyone out of there FAST.
If I'm a captain, at the first second that I get a report of smoke, we're landing. Take it out of my paycheck, but I'd think the passengers and families would agree with an over abundance of caution.
I remember this. I live in Florence KY, near the Cincinnati Airport (which is in Hebron KY, Boone County, but managed by Kenton County). I later went to work at Comair, a regional airline based there.
Thanks for this video. Us Nova Scotians lost a great singer/songwriter on that flight, Stan Rogers: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Rogers
what could they have done differently to not have the flash fire start? they had to open the doors at some point
Strange how these pilots are so relaxed in the face of obvious disaster. Must be great training that allows them to ignore obvious signs of impending doom. Poor losers.
Your videos are absolutely amazing. Seriously IF I were ever to have a issue flying with out people I would want you be my poliot.
Awwww shit, I thought they made it. That’s heartbreaking.
How the hell can the crew get medals for that? Should had been arrested.
Like you’d know.
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Woo hoo you subscribed! Do you want a medal?
I don't need a medal, give me more emergency ass grabbing videos!
Because the accident occurred in the United States, it was investigated by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).
Although the fuselage was nearly destroyed by the intensity of the fire, the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) and flight data recorder (FDR) were still in good condition and produced vital data for the NTSB investigation.[1] On the CVR, NTSB investigators heard eight sounds of electrical arcing beginning at 18:48. The arcing sounds repeated each time the crew tried to reset the lavatory circuit breakers. Both pilots testified that they did not hear any arcing, and the NTSB concluded that these sounds would be inaudible to the flight crew.[2]:59 Although a number of wires in the lavatory section were later found with insulation stripped away, NTSB investigators were unable to determine whether this insulation damage was the cause of the fire or was caused by the fire.[2]:57
This particular DC-9 had experienced a number of problems over the months leading up to the incident; 76 maintenance reports had been filed in the plane's logs in the previous year,[1] and the CVR records Cameron telling Ouimet to "put [the tripping breakers] in the book there" when the breakers fail to respond to the first reset attempt at 18:52.[4] Cameron attempted once more to reset the breakers at 18:59. The CVR records arcing sounds followed by the popping sound of the breakers continuing to trip again after each reset over the next 60 seconds.[4] Nearly four years earlier, on 17 September 1979, the plane, then serving as Air Canada Flight 680 (Boston, Massachusetts, to Yarmouth, Nova Scotia), had suffered an explosive decompression in the rear bulkhead that required rebuilding the tail section and replacing or splicing most of the wiring and hydraulic lines in the back of the plane; Cameron later noted that the Air Canada maintenance crew "did a heck of a job getting everything put back together" after the decompression incident.[1] Investigators were unable to find signs of arcing in any of the wire splices from the repairs done four years earlier, though much of the wiring in the rear of the plane was severely damaged or destroyed by the fire itself en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797
People complaining about spelling will please make you own videos and show us how it is done.
I agree there was loss of life in the video and does it matter about spelling that was not the point of the video
Your sentence is missing a "you" between "will" and "please". Also "make you own" should be "make your own".
This coming from someone who is unable to write an understandable sentence.
Get stufed
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