Vial | Tymna vs Daretti vs Talrand vs Vaevictus EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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Komentáře • 104

  • @matthugenberg8869
    @matthugenberg8869 Před 5 lety +82

    You aren't changing the CMC of the card with lodestone golom, just how much you are paying. You shouldn't have done the 2 extra points of damage that you did when the lodestone golom was in play. Otherwise, amazing game! :3

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před 5 lety +10

      Aw lame! I'll keep that in mind moving forward.

    • @WibunJo
      @WibunJo Před 5 lety +4

      @@MTGMuddstah not lame! Just think about playing things for less and getting the full cmc burn.

    • @des-trina
      @des-trina Před 5 lety +1

      The only things that ever change CMC are X spells on the stack. The number you choose for X is added to any colored or generic mana symbols to determine CMC.

    • @Mr911superstar
      @Mr911superstar Před 5 lety

      However cards with converge can get the benefit, paying GWUB for painful truths with a tax effect in play let's you pay 4 life draw 4 cards

  • @knytetech7732
    @knytetech7732 Před 5 lety +73

    When Alex sacrificed his commander in response to it getting capsized, that would fizzle the spell, and therefore capsize wouldn't have returned to his hand.

    • @MrJerichoPumpkin
      @MrJerichoPumpkin Před 5 lety +1

      good catch!

    • @Dragonspassage
      @Dragonspassage Před 5 lety +2

      Thats the best answer to capsize.

    • @kurtgrgelwrx8376
      @kurtgrgelwrx8376 Před 5 lety +1

      oooo that's good to know
      I absolutely despise Capsize, so this'll be a good way to get rid of it

    • @knytetech7732
      @knytetech7732 Před 5 lety +2

      I have been burned by this once, and have burned many others in this manner... It is a lesson the capsize player will not soon forget.
      And just for a rules thingy, the reason is that buyback happens on resolution of the spell. If the target of capsize becomes invalid (my personal favorite is to reverberate capsize, with the same target), then capsize does not resolve, and buyback doesn't happen. It is functionally equivalent to countering it.

    • @hundredpercentjuice
      @hundredpercentjuice Před 5 lety

      I’d be very careful of jonathon. There’s literal no way a blue mage doesn’t know that. Nice opportunity cheat.

  • @kmb1800
    @kmb1800 Před 5 lety +20

    Buyback specifies that it goes to your hand when it resolves. By sacrificing vaecictis, the spell was countered by state based effects and should have gone to the graveyard.

  • @halophilicnc6473
    @halophilicnc6473 Před 5 lety +24

    I love how the overloaded rift enabled your win.

  • @LegendaryCreaturePodcast
    @LegendaryCreaturePodcast Před 5 lety +14

    That mardu deck is truly a spellslinger deck for the 21st century! Blue spellslinger is so... 2018.
    As always, great game!

  • @Grand_Admiral
    @Grand_Admiral Před 5 lety +7

    Wow, what happened more often: the number of times Talrand was cast in this video or the average number of missed Rhystic Study triggers in an average MTG Muddstah video? :)

  • @Punintentionally
    @Punintentionally Před 5 lety

    Excellent game! Glad to see the Mardu Spellslinger deck work so well! Looking forward to seeing it again in the future.

  • @plain6677
    @plain6677 Před 5 lety

    This was the best gameplay I’ve ever seen! So great, well done to all players

  • @lracseroom8286
    @lracseroom8286 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the content. I try not to EDHrec so watching your gameplay vids is often invaluable to giving me inspiration for my decks.

  • @kobensutherland6652
    @kobensutherland6652 Před 5 lety

    That was a very cool way to finish it off. I was not expecting an insta kill. Good job muddstah

  • @Scott.not.Scotty
    @Scott.not.Scotty Před 5 lety +3

    I stayed up all night for this

  • @AffinityForCommander
    @AffinityForCommander Před 5 lety +11

    Hope you get well soon Muddstah! 🤧

    • @jackgreenway5581
      @jackgreenway5581 Před 5 lety +1

      Affinity For Commander I love you guys maybe you should consider collaborating with mtg muddstah

    • @AffinityForCommander
      @AffinityForCommander Před 5 lety

      We would 100% do this! 😀

  • @romanlegin3762
    @romanlegin3762 Před 5 lety

    Sweet combo finish dude!

  • @johannpohland2826
    @johannpohland2826 Před 5 lety +13

    Man i was so triggered by jonathan casting all of his instant spells in his main phase

    • @Duskid
      @Duskid Před 5 lety +4

      practicing Addendum

    • @shazebennington937
      @shazebennington937 Před 3 lety

      Or when he cast pongify AFTER his commander got hit with swords to plow sharers

  • @michaelmolzan3001
    @michaelmolzan3001 Před 4 lety +1

    Taxing effects don't change cmc. Vial Smasher doesn't do extra damage. Also capsize should have hit the bin.

  • @BangThatGong
    @BangThatGong Před 5 lety +37

    What in the hell was that finish

    • @DummyUrD
      @DummyUrD Před 5 lety

      My guess, the firsttime blue went out of counters.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před 5 lety +8

      Due to the nature of Inner Fire, it was probably the only time the spell would work well with my board state. I went for it and got lucky lol.

  • @mrsilverbutton7786
    @mrsilverbutton7786 Před 5 lety

    Mardu Spells! Nice combination and fun style of play!

  • @Cole444Train
    @Cole444Train Před 5 lety +2

    Mat had a fast mana start, but did things a lot of artifact decks do. Just durdle around. Played utility spells and didn’t take advantage of the fast mana

  • @Ballpython77
    @Ballpython77 Před 5 lety +17

    at 1:48. i threw up a little....O_o

  • @darksteelmenace595
    @darksteelmenace595 Před 5 lety +2

    At first I felt like the powerlevel of this table was higher than usual (maybe because of Darettis insane start) but somehow the game took surprisingly long. Didn't expect the sudden end tho, you were lucky that Talrand had no counterspells available

  • @Anaki99DK
    @Anaki99DK Před 5 lety +2

    First, thanks for another vid. Sad to hear you are still sick, get better soon.

  • @DummyUrD
    @DummyUrD Před 5 lety +4

    Mhh I was surprised that [[Defense of the Heart]] didn't tutor a win-con with other people playing [[Mindslaver]] but that's the problem when you play with strangers/decks you don't know :)

  • @davidhutchinson4043
    @davidhutchinson4043 Před 5 lety +1

    Advise for the Mardu deck put in true conviction

  • @r.a.w.780
    @r.a.w.780 Před 5 lety

    That finish though, bam!

  • @dreddbolt
    @dreddbolt Před 5 lety

    I would enjoy seeing a Valduk (Keeper of the Flame) deck in action.

  • @WiiTara
    @WiiTara Před 5 lety +1

    When that Nova hit the field and I saw how many mana rocks Matt had left I just laughed. He had such an explosive start and that Nova just destroyed him :O
    Talrand was a bit annoying because he somehow ran never out of mana to cast him and the buybacking Capsize was really strong.
    I smiled when I saw Vaevictus and I hoped to see him really performe, but sadly he didnt :( If you get/got another game where he really does sth it would be amazing if you could show us :)

  • @willemboele2079
    @willemboele2079 Před 5 lety +28

    we
    want
    evil
    adam
    god
    dammit

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před 5 lety +13

      Evil
      Adam
      Moved
      Away
      Damnit
      =(

    • @willemboele2079
      @willemboele2079 Před 5 lety +9

      well
      get
      to
      him
      and
      shove
      a
      friggin
      camera
      in
      he's
      face
      and
      say
      do
      the
      magic
      things

    • @adams333
      @adams333 Před 5 lety +1

      ​@@willemboele2079 hehe, I miss playing at Gamerz Coop with Andrew, but I am now playing online on : PlayEDH Discord Server!
      For those interested in playing against my "Casual Derevi" deck, you can join the server at : discord.gg/49NaUvq
      Here is a short tutorial for setting up your Webcam: czcams.com/video/GJ0rtK6lcaY/video.html

  • @hcgneophyte
    @hcgneophyte Před 5 lety

    Great game ! Too bad Alex wasn't able to do much all game, an attacking Vaevictis is a force to be reckon with.
    Yawgmoth's will and mana geyser toghether Aha ! Thought you were going to burn the whole world :D
    Do you think you will have Marco and his Anafenza deck ever again on the show ? i'm kinda very interested and the last time there wasn't any decklist :)
    Keep up the good work, and thanks for the regular flow of good videos !

  • @krystalnunn908
    @krystalnunn908 Před 5 lety

    That finish was nasty

  • @rorylastname7635
    @rorylastname7635 Před 5 lety

    Wow that finish.

  • @danielstinehelfer8830
    @danielstinehelfer8830 Před 5 lety +1

    8:19 "a buyback capsized" lol love your stuff muddstah not trying to be mean

  • @Metroidhunter13
    @Metroidhunter13 Před rokem

    That was a beautiful ending haha

  • @xakuyer
    @xakuyer Před 5 lety

    Mardu spellslinger and Muddstah. Name a more iconic duo

  • @k3vinheyland
    @k3vinheyland Před 3 lety

    "Matt casts a Winter Orb in his main phase telling us not to freak out". *Everyone else still freaks out*

  • @SamuraiOfTheSix
    @SamuraiOfTheSix Před 5 lety

    I really want to see a Athroes/Shadowborn Apostle deck in one of your videos.

  • @MrEliakimRAS
    @MrEliakimRAS Před 5 lety

    At 12:20, Gitrog could enter the field before the lands, drawing some cards. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @hawkeye137137
      @hawkeye137137 Před 5 lety

      Gitrog makes you draw cards when lands go to graveyard, not when you play them/they are put onto the battlefield.

    • @MrEliakimRAS
      @MrEliakimRAS Před 5 lety

      @@hawkeye137137 Yeah, I got it now. Thanks! I am looking so much for a Tatyova lands deck that I get confused with the other land commanders ^^

  • @Codence666
    @Codence666 Před 5 lety

    What song is that? It sounds so familiar

  • @FEARFREAK42
    @FEARFREAK42 Před 5 lety

    "And I killed the table all at once." Silence

  • @nedgelord
    @nedgelord Před 5 lety +1

    I think you forgot to discard to shreds of sanity at 11:15

  • @TheBlackdragon936
    @TheBlackdragon936 Před 5 lety

    How did you get Kano to do your intro? Kano confirmed for MK11!

  • @NewOldEBM
    @NewOldEBM Před 5 lety

    So Alex tutored and then STILL didn't have red mana? What was so important to grab with sidisi to keep you off your colours? Defense?

  • @adams333
    @adams333 Před 5 lety

    I wish they could change the ruling so we could redirect the damage to planeswalker when we hit a player with a creature...

  • @douglasmarcondes3592
    @douglasmarcondes3592 Před 5 lety

    hahaha what a insane combo with Exsanguinate, I didn't get the real effect, mind to explain?

    • @tommylanders1997
      @tommylanders1997 Před 5 lety +1

      Inner Fire says "Add (R) for each card in your hand."
      Reiterate with buyback is 6 mana, copy a spell and return reiterate to your hand.
      With 9+ cards (Inner fire + Reiterate + 7) he was able to spend 10 mana to Fire+Reiterate at the same time with 7 cards remaining. Reiterate resolves, giving him 7 mana and Reiterate back. Before Fire resolves, cast reiterate again for 6, with 1 mana left. Reiterate resolves, earning an extra mana each time you loop and eventual "infinite" red mana.
      He then used 2 black mana + any amount of his red mana to cast exanguinate for lethal

    • @tommylanders1997
      @tommylanders1997 Před 5 lety

      Reiterate also works with any instant or sorcery that nets 7+ mana, with at least 2 red such as Brightstone Ritual and Battle Hymn

    • @douglasmarcondes3592
      @douglasmarcondes3592 Před 5 lety +1

      @@tommylanders1997 holy shit... nice one...

  • @alexchen2519
    @alexchen2519 Před 5 lety

    ...and it was at that moment Jonathan learnt to never play Cyclonic Rifts again.

  • @TheWongKeys
    @TheWongKeys Před 5 lety

    Wait does alex have a rolex??

  • @spencerworks
    @spencerworks Před 4 lety

    Still waiting on Alex' decklist ;)

  • @TheMystcast
    @TheMystcast Před 5 lety

    The hell... I thought talrand would of won. Damn was I wrong! exc video!

  • @Avatarbee
    @Avatarbee Před 5 lety

    "Generic Pirate-Goblin Noise"

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos Před 5 lety +4

    Weird combination of partners xD

  • @cornblaque2310
    @cornblaque2310 Před 5 lety

    This goblins voice was better!

  • @ebensmith3425
    @ebensmith3425 Před 5 lety

    Hey just wondering if you could ask the chad from this video ( czcams.com/video/Wo-OP_lf-iA/video.html ) where he got his playmat cause its amazing and i want to get one. Also love your videos!

  • @explodingburritosexperienc9111

    Mana Rocks the Gathering

  • @omegasybers1110
    @omegasybers1110 Před 5 lety

    Am I the only one, that find the deeper voice better?

  • @sephyrias883
    @sephyrias883 Před 5 lety

    I don't get how Mat lost this game with like 10 mana on turn 4.
    He missed a lot of things that would've let him draw more cards. Like, he could've sacced his Wurmcoil Engine to Daretti to return Mind Stone, getting 2 tokens and being able to sac the mind stone to draw a card.
    Keeping Daretti alive didn't matter with so much mana, all he had to do was draw more cards to make use of all that mana, even if it means recasting Daretti to uptick him for looting.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar Před 5 lety +13

    Talrand, Capsize, Overburden... ugh.
    And they wonder why blue gets so much hate...

    • @animeexpresscon
      @animeexpresscon Před 5 lety +1

      Ehh, the fact that the extra planar lense was effectively ignored the entire game was the main culprit of his power level. IMHO 1 capsize per turn and no other interaction is not scary in 4 player edh games. Likewise 2+ capsizes and interaction p[er turn is a little scary.

  • @ivernedit4132
    @ivernedit4132 Před 5 lety

    LOTS OF RED MANA

  • @davidhutchinson4043
    @davidhutchinson4043 Před 5 lety +2

    Mat’s side costed like $$$ by turn 2

  • @Sgt_Bacon189
    @Sgt_Bacon189 Před 5 lety +2

    The ending just pissed me of so bad, cause that's exactly the type of strategy I absolutely despise...make infinite mana and cast X to just kill everyone/everything...still a good vid though

  • @tryzydrate
    @tryzydrate Před 5 lety

    Take cyclonic rift

  • @austinjenkins9445
    @austinjenkins9445 Před 5 lety

    How was Jonathan casting his commander with only 8 mana it died lol 5 times

  • @MultiTaz333
    @MultiTaz333 Před 5 lety +1

    Jonath is a weird name

  • @kyojitakenouchi9706
    @kyojitakenouchi9706 Před 5 lety +6

    You cannot fail to find while being slaved anymore. The change was made back when the promised end was printed.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  Před 5 lety +5

      That's wild! Do you have a link to that new ruling? All the stuff we found on Google said it was fine provided the wording was in a certain way. Like, you can't fail to find with Demonic Tutor, but you can with fetches.

    • @r.r.theninja6812
      @r.r.theninja6812 Před 5 lety +2

      MTGO still allows you to fail with fetches to this very day. Link to ruling?

    • @kyojitakenouchi9706
      @kyojitakenouchi9706 Před 5 lety

      I'm at work. I'll look it up tomorrow.

    • @marpj6138
      @marpj6138 Před 5 lety +3

      The only hange at the time has that you are not allowed to look at aideboards anymore. The fail to find still valid as long as the tutor require a characteristic (like ferches need lands), you cant and never could fail to find 'a card' (like demonic tutor) as long as there cards in the deck.

  • @jeffbt17
    @jeffbt17 Před 5 lety

    Weakest Defense of the Heart ever :(

  • @imapaincake2305
    @imapaincake2305 Před 5 lety +6

    Hate to be that guy but it is "Vaevictis" not "Vaevictus"

    • @MrJerichoPumpkin
      @MrJerichoPumpkin Před 5 lety +1

      which translates to more or less "losers, beware!". I loved how Kain shouted it every 30 second in Legacy of Kain: Defiance

    • @RoxyGotMoxy.
      @RoxyGotMoxy. Před 5 lety

      I'd always heard it translated as roughly "Woe/Suffering to the Damned/Conquered", which is infinitely more badass :P

  • @ultiplayer1
    @ultiplayer1 Před 5 lety

    I hate Exsanguinate, and Gary.

  • @imasiontist653
    @imasiontist653 Před 5 lety +1

    This channel may be goblin approved but that intro is NOT me-approved.

    • @Mr._Knight_138
      @Mr._Knight_138 Před 5 lety

      I like the intros with the goblin laughing.

    • @imasiontist653
      @imasiontist653 Před 5 lety

      @@Mr._Knight_138 im not big on any of their intros ngl. But i especially dont like this one.

  • @pops91
    @pops91 Před 5 lety +1

    Interesting this is another game where the player that goes first wins. Hmmm