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  • @AZisk
    @AZisk  Před 8 měsíci +48

    For those that are still asking about Visual Studio Code being "dropped", check this out: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/163328/what-does-drop-mean-in-this-sentence and JOIN: youtube.com/@azisk/join

    • @Br0adCastYourS3lf
      @Br0adCastYourS3lf Před 8 měsíci +2

      So Alex, are you part of the Hip-Hop scene?

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@Br0adCastYourS3lf i’ll be dropping an album soon

    • @Br0adCastYourS3lf
      @Br0adCastYourS3lf Před 8 měsíci

      @@AZisk Can't wait to hear it. Drop it like it's hot.
      Apologies for the late response. But a rare internet outage occurred at my ISP right after commenting.

    • @handsanitizer2457
      @handsanitizer2457 Před 7 měsíci

      Rider is definitely it's successor. It's much faster and works flawlessly. So vs isn't even needed, I never us vs since I've downloaded rider. Even though it was meant more for cpp and unreal

    • @t6hp
      @t6hp Před 2 měsíci

      Wait, this is so confusing. I've heard many CEOs say they're "dropping" something, as in, they're going to stop supporting it. So dropping means both introducing AND ending something? FFS, use more words to express different things people.

  • @troyroa7768
    @troyroa7768 Před 9 měsíci +1992

    Visual Studio's relationship with Visual Studio Code is like Java's relationship with JavaScript

    • @RandyHanley
      @RandyHanley Před 9 měsíci +70

      very well-said.

    • @entx8491
      @entx8491 Před 9 měsíci +4

      How?

    • @troyroa7768
      @troyroa7768 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@RandyHanley thanks!

    • @troyroa7768
      @troyroa7768 Před 9 měsíci

      @@entx8491 the pair have similar names but not actually the same or one.

    • @chiefdenis
      @chiefdenis Před 9 měsíci

      @@entx8491 they absolutely have nothing to do with each other, other than sharing some words in their names

  • @stefanmilicevic5322
    @stefanmilicevic5322 Před 9 měsíci +671

    I sometimes wonder if the teams at Microsoft, who developed Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code, revel in the joy of knowing that the linguistic ambiguity of those products will continue to confuse people till the end of time. I take a hard guess and say yes.

    • @Lucas-ys7qq
      @Lucas-ys7qq Před 9 měsíci +30

      More than likely, some exec came up with the name, leaving the devs cynically laughing at the confusing result

    • @fenderjazzbrian
      @fenderjazzbrian Před 9 měsíci +15

      Of course it was Xamarin, as a separate company, that “invented” Xamarin Studio, which was rebranded as VS for Mac after the acquisition.

    • @MrSparc
      @MrSparc Před 9 měsíci +24

      Visual Studio Code developers was an entire Microsoft team mainly from Europe that started as a lightweight code editor using Electron while Visual Studio has a large multidisciplinary teams (C++, .NET, etc) mainly from USA using a code base with years of development. The name was just a way to associate both projects under the umbrella of MS development tools.

    • @vikingthedude
      @vikingthedude Před 9 měsíci +3

      So is Visual Studio not for coding?

    • @GmanGavin1
      @GmanGavin1 Před 9 měsíci +11

      @@vikingthedude Nah, it's for developing ;)

  • @OneTakeSunday
    @OneTakeSunday Před 9 měsíci +309

    I might be the only person who liked Visual Studio for Mac. I was hoping one day it would catch up to full functionality of MS VS. Every major release got a little better. Kinda bummed about this!

    • @EugenioDeHoyos
      @EugenioDeHoyos Před 9 měsíci +19

      @@imtotallyjustin Rider is great, I use it all the time, granted I come from an IntelliJ background. I'm concerned too because every once in a while I still have to boot up VS for Mac for one reason or another.

    • @atomsbaza2
      @atomsbaza2 Před 9 měsíci

      me too!

    • @xglock
      @xglock Před 9 měsíci

      I am also big fan of Rider mainly because its compatible with Visual Studio projects and its also capable of using it in teamwork where both IDEs are present.

    • @taliaj
      @taliaj Před 9 měsíci +1

      Not just you. I used VS for Mac and liked it. For some reason, it worked really well on my M1. For my needs, it compared very well to running VS under Parallels or my Lenovo with the 64GB RAM and i7 (12gen). I found the performance was generally very decent, on a par with the Windows box, and for some projects, significantly faster.
      I'm sorry to see this end, but I learned about Rider from this thread and will look into it.

    • @impostoreverso
      @impostoreverso Před 9 měsíci +6

      Bro, what did u expected? really. THEY KILLED THE WINDOWS PHONE AND IT WAS AWESOME, JUST NEEDED MORE APPS

  • @PinakiGupta82Appu
    @PinakiGupta82Appu Před 9 měsíci +70

    Visual Studio is an IDE with the Microsoft C/C++/MASM compiler. VSCode is a text editor. The MS compiler without the IDE can be installed separately, it's called the Microsoft Platform SDK at the moment. In the past, MS distributed the compiler-only version of Visual Studio as Microsoft Windows Build Tools. VSCode is an Electron JS app. Whereas, Visual Studio is mostly written in C, .NET, Windows SDK, and partly C++/ MFC, as far as I'm aware.
    EDIT: The names look somewhat similar.

    • @stickguy9109
      @stickguy9109 Před 9 měsíci +15

      Basically we're talking an actual IDE vs fancy notepad

    • @GmanGavin1
      @GmanGavin1 Před 9 měsíci

      @@stickguy9109More like a full IDE to a partial one. I understand maybe calling syntax highlighting fancy but vs Code has way too many features to say "fancy text editor". Way beyond notepad++

    • @GmanGavin1
      @GmanGavin1 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I knew about Microsoft built tools but not "Microsoft Platform SDK" I'll look into it and see what I find.
      I know that even if you have clang installed, it'll use msvc for certain things like standard library and linker I think.

    • @Neme112
      @Neme112 Před 3 měsíci

      Visual Studio is mostly written in C#, definitely not C. The whole UI is WPF.

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 Před 3 měsíci

      It's not just a code editor, it's a generic IDE

  • @marna_li
    @marna_li Před 9 měsíci +30

    The new C# Dev Kit Extension for VS Code is meant to bring a complete C# dev environment, and it does a descent job. You can view solutions and do other stuff in a way similar to the traditional IDEs.

  • @CamdenBloke
    @CamdenBloke Před 7 měsíci +12

    This reminds me of when I was about to graduate with an actuarial science degree, and some people advised me to learn Visual Basic. So I got a library book on the topic and was learning along - I knew BASIC from using it on an apple //e as a kid, but had never used it in a context where I could operate a GUI (all of my programming experience had been strictly via text interfaces). I couldn't work out what it had to do with Actuarial Science, though. After I got rather far along, I finally worked out that I was supposed to be learning Visual Basic as a scripting language for Excel, which was completely different from what I had been teaching myself.

  • @timtaler6621
    @timtaler6621 Před 9 měsíci +79

    I'm still an early-stage developer and appreciate the step-by-step mechanics of vs_code. That way I can explore each tool on its own and get familiar with its functions instead of navigating through an "overloaded" IDE. But I guess one day that will change and I will use the "ultimate toolset in the big old plastic suitcase".

    • @hydrolifetech7911
      @hydrolifetech7911 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Same here

    • @juniorjunior8494
      @juniorjunior8494 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Visual studio isn't the ultimate toolset in my view, I actually started there for its integrated convenience, and then as i gained more experience, I realized that it's powerful if you're focused on windows/C# development. I had to switch to VS Code for hardware development, and since then I have come to appreciate Vs Code's strength, which is flexibility and speed.

    • @projectTBH
      @projectTBH Před 6 měsíci

      same bro

    • @v3launchunit-hx2ib
      @v3launchunit-hx2ib Před 28 dny

      i like the fact that vs code opens in less than an hour and doesn't freeze for a full second every time i press a key

    • @juliusreycalderon1998
      @juliusreycalderon1998 Před 3 dny

      @@juniorjunior8494 vs code is good for cross platform.

  • @hamza-m
    @hamza-m Před 9 měsíci +38

    Does this mean Visual Studio 2022 (or a future release) will be available for Mac? Or has Microsoft just admitted defeat for that demographic to Rider?

    • @HuntingKingYT
      @HuntingKingYT Před 9 měsíci +15

      I assume 2nd option

    • @DizmusT
      @DizmusT Před 9 měsíci

      They want you to use VS code

    • @hamza-m
      @hamza-m Před 9 měsíci +12

      @@DizmusT so replace an IDE with a text editor (with some nice plugins)? Can’t see that going down well.
      Don’t get me wrong, I use VS code a lot, but as soon as I’m working on something substantial I’ll be wanting an IDE. Personally I swapped Visual Studio for Mac with Rider quite a long time ago but I can’t see many devs picking VS Code over Rider if you needed an IDE before.

    • @mattbosley3531
      @mattbosley3531 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Apparently you weren't paying attention. It is now legal to run Windows 11 ARM in Parallels on a Mac, and there is also an ARM version of Visual Studio as Alex stated. So Visual Studio 2022 is already available on a Mac, but you have to use Parallels and Windows 11 for ARM. Or you could use an older x86-64 Mac and run Windows 10 or 11 in Parallels or Windows 10 or 11 in free VMWare Fusion Player.

    • @hamza-m
      @hamza-m Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@mattbosley3531 no. That’s was clear to me. However I use Visual Studio on a Mac I.e. under MacOS. I would like to continue to do so (or I would do if I had t switched to Rider). I’m not the only one either.
      I don’t want to run Windows to write .Net Core code in MacOS. I want to run an IDE in MacOS.

  • @arozendojr
    @arozendojr Před 4 měsíci

    Regarding NativeScript + Angular, do you have any repository where the Angular application is located on the web and the client loads the application via a URL, enjoying the benefits of NativeScript?

  • @g9icy
    @g9icy Před 9 měsíci +2

    What are they replacing it with? I've just started using VS4Mac for MAUI app development. I don't particularly want to use VS in a VM or remote into my windows PC. I can't stand JS based app development. A bit stuck now.

  • @mytho2630
    @mytho2630 Před 9 měsíci +92

    My problem with Visual Studio is speed. It takes a long time to start, long to build, and seems to stagger along for most of the projects I've worked with. VSC is much faster, and I only install the extensions I actually need. I've managed to learn a keyboard shortcut for pretty much everything, and its difficult to move away from that.
    My main use cases for VS are windows forms (yes, it still exists) and MAUI Blazor Hybrids.

    • @justadude8716
      @justadude8716 Před 9 měsíci +4

      I'm actually developing a new application with WinForms, granted it's guaranteed to run on specialized PCa for the next 10 years, but still it's amazing how it's still around.

    • @RexTorres
      @RexTorres Před 9 měsíci +28

      Most IDEs have that problem. Android Studio and XCode are slow as hell, too, and they gobble up computer resources like there's no tomorrow.
      VC Code, being a lightweight *_text editor_* should, of course, be faster than any full-fledged IDE.

    • @soho737
      @soho737 Před 6 měsíci

      @@justadude8716Also still developing new business applications in WinForms - while WPF, WinUI, MAUI came and went, WinForms will never die out. And for someone putting down 500 grand for an application that’s a relevant factor. And accountants don’t care about the looks, only about efficiency

    • @flaguser4196
      @flaguser4196 Před 3 měsíci

      this is why I still use VS2019 for c#. all that AI stuff I didn't ask for in VS2022 is just making the editor lag behind my keystrokes. for javascript, I use VSCode. it's not as lightweight as notepad++, but the ~20x ram usage is worth it.

    • @v3launchunit-hx2ib
      @v3launchunit-hx2ib Před 28 dny

      THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

  • @hardi.stones
    @hardi.stones Před 9 měsíci +10

    The people who say "why use VS 2022 when there is VS Code" is the very people who don't use THE Visual Studio. Gen Z I suppose? My first VS was VS 6.

    • @henson2k
      @henson2k Před měsícem

      My first was Visual Studio C++ 1.5

    • @rjawiygvozd
      @rjawiygvozd Před měsícem

      I had to work with Visual Studio for aspnet project in the past but was very happy to move to vscode when .net core became a thing and I ported the project to it. Part of that was because I didn't have to use windows anymore but also because it was lightweight and it could still do everything I needed to the point that I never had to leave it, whatever I'm doing, including database management. Also it had better terminal and tasks.

    • @sir.niklas2090
      @sir.niklas2090 Před 23 dny

      Its the ones you don't like an "IDE" you know what VS gives you.

  • @LukeBarousse
    @LukeBarousse Před 9 měsíci +9

    Alex, I've always been confused; What's the difference between Visual Studio vs VS Code?
    Please answer ASAP, sir 🙏🏼

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci +10

      🤦‍♂️ Luke!!!! Just watch this video:
      czcams.com/video/N3kuEuauWv4/video.html

    • @LukeBarousse
      @LukeBarousse Před 9 měsíci

      @@AZisk 🤣🤣🤣

  • @5mintoheaven871
    @5mintoheaven871 Před 8 měsíci +1

    so what code editor we gonna use as I have m1 macbook

  • @belgarathlesorcier8385
    @belgarathlesorcier8385 Před 7 měsíci +8

    But sometimes a specific function doesn't exists or an infuriating choice was made for Visual Studio. But the culture of vscode around extension makes that you will most likely find an extension fixing your problem, while it's not often the case with Visual Studio.
    It's like if the big crate of tools include a broken one or is missing a specific screwdriver for an exotic end bit, you can have it if you build your own toolset

    • @nezu_cc
      @nezu_cc Před 6 měsíci +1

      I once had a "friend" that tried to tell me that one of the jetbrains IDEs for lua was better than vscode. So I'm like, ok find me a feature that you have that vscode (with proper extensions) doesn't. Not only did he not find anything meaningful, but at the end he told me about the many half broken features that his IDE had and I just showed him one by one every single one of them working perfectly in vscode.

  • @djdunods
    @djdunods Před 7 měsíci

    What macos u are using ? Any thought on sonoma ?

  • @mujtabaalam5907
    @mujtabaalam5907 Před 6 měsíci +1

    4:31 can you get all of those features via VS code extensions?

  • @MafJora
    @MafJora Před 9 měsíci +49

    Visual Studio was one of the reasons why I loved C# so much.

    • @SeanPoulter
      @SeanPoulter Před 6 měsíci +2

      Before the C# Dev Kit was released for VS Code, the only way to get better refactoring tools on a Mac was to reach for VS for Mac. Oof. It didn't have other necessary features like shows test results updating as you work. 🤦 You need Windows and Visual Studio to get the developer experience you want.

    • @karlosdaniel6537
      @karlosdaniel6537 Před 4 měsíci

      @@SeanPoulter Rider by JetBrains is pretty good too.

    • @th0bse_
      @th0bse_ Před měsícem +3

      ???? Visual Studio is a fkn atrocity... Crashing, resource hogging, buggy, EVERYTHING is hidden behind some shit GUI, Like, just show me the build configuration I don't want your dumb text fields and check boxes.

    • @Cremeuwu
      @Cremeuwu Před měsícem

      @@th0bse_ If you want to revel in JSON configs all day, go ahead. I like to have a nice GUI for my tools.
      Also VS isn't really buggy, used for almost 10 years now and never had any issues

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 Před měsícem +1

      ​ @th0bse_ Nah, skill issues or ancient versions probably. It consumes more resources than a plain text editor like VSCode, but unless you have only 6GB of RAM then it runs just fine. And I don't remember if it ever crashed on me, so I have no idea what that is about.

  • @emaayan
    @emaayan Před 8 měsíci

    does Visual Studio 2022 have C/C++ refactoring and integartion with ESP-IDF?

  • @phantastik3389
    @phantastik3389 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I use Visual Studio to create MVC applications and when i want to practice an algorithm. When I want to create an api, I use VScode. One window open for Angular, another for c# code.

  • @dmitrymatora442
    @dmitrymatora442 Před 9 měsíci +74

    I don’t use Microsoft products and often I have no idea what this guy is talking about, but I LOVE watching his videos, I often ask myself why :)

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci +18

      maybe you like to learn :) and my silly jokes :)

    • @mitkram99
      @mitkram99 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@AZisk Now you have a poor linux fanboy hater. Lol!

    • @mudi2000a
      @mudi2000a Před 7 měsíci

      If you never tried VS Code then you clearly missed something.
      I personally use a mix of VS code and IntelliJ ultimate.

  • @OM-bs7of
    @OM-bs7of Před 9 měsíci +10

    Visual Studio = IDE , Visual Studio Code = Text Editor

  • @JosephFallon
    @JosephFallon Před 9 měsíci +1

    When your say MS "also drops Visual Studio Code" at 1:26 did you mean "delivers a new version'' or " plans to stop supporting" ?

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci

      delivered

  • @MostafaAhmedAhmed81
    @MostafaAhmedAhmed81 Před 9 měsíci +80

    The main drawback of Visual Studio 2022+ is that you need Windows to run it. And yes this is a drawback for me. .NET is not Windows-only anymore. We hosted our .NET backend on a Linux server for years now. So developing it out of Windows is essential. We make sure that what we develop does not depend on something in Windows.
    Plus I don’t have to pay all that money to rund Windows cohesively within macOS.
    This is why I still prefer VS Code for everything, except iOS development; and I pick up just what I need.

    • @mairhart
      @mairhart Před 9 měsíci +11

      I don't quite get how MAUI is truly multiplatform when Microsoft will only support Windows IDEs.
      Yeah, you can run VS in Parallels, but that doesn't seem legit cross-platform to me. I'm more likely to trust JetBrains tools, if Microsoft is going to play these old OS games again.

    • @cenewton3221
      @cenewton3221 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@mairhart They always play the OS/browser games in cycles it seems. For a year or two they're all "kumbaya" then suddenly they swing back into '90s mode & try to squeeze out competition, pushing the boundaries of law.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Nobody uses Dotnet for anything important. Even Microsoft will not use it in flagship software like -Office- 365.

    • @joelv4495
      @joelv4495 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@lawrencedoliveiro9104 surely you're joking, right? Right???

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 Před 7 měsíci

      @@joelv4495 It’s a fact.

  • @renouxmarais3333
    @renouxmarais3333 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What is your IDE of choice? As a beginner i enjoy vscode. I am a mac user though. So which IDE would you suggest to use (beginner friendly)?

    • @alienespinel
      @alienespinel Před 9 měsíci

      Vim

    • @renouxmarais3333
      @renouxmarais3333 Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@alienespinel dude, VIM is not beginner friendly…

    • @pqsk
      @pqsk Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@renouxmarais3333I’m not a fan of vim, but back in the day when the options were limited, vim was used by beginners too. Don’t be scared. I find so many junior devs are scared of any tool that doesn’t write the code for them. 😆

    • @whoisalisson
      @whoisalisson Před 9 měsíci +1

      .NET development? Rider or vscode with dev kit

    • @alienespinel
      @alienespinel Před 9 měsíci

      @@renouxmarais3333 and you're not sarcasm friendly ig, sorry to waste your time 😂😂

  • @stefanotarlon5072
    @stefanotarlon5072 Před 9 měsíci

    I sai you use Parallels 19 in MacBook Pro M chipsets. This solution drains battere lire of Mac?

  • @a4andrei
    @a4andrei Před 8 měsíci +10

    VS Code is fine, it's a basic code editor which can be endlessly configured and extended. It has an extension store, and you'll find pretty much anything in there. My biggest gripe with it, is consistency. I much prefer to use an IDE that's purpose-built for something, and excels at that. As such, I mostly use Intellij Ultimate, for both Java and Typescript/angular. Some of my colleagues have ditched VS Code for Intellij. Of course, Intellij is much heavier on the CPU and memory, but it's a big boy tool, and does everything better. Except when it slows down to a crawl 😂.

  • @ihopethiscommentisntabusiv4670
    @ihopethiscommentisntabusiv4670 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I never met a single person who confused Visual Studio with VS Code

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci +12

      try running a youtube channel with comments on :)

    • @mattxnyce
      @mattxnyce Před 4 měsíci

      @@AZisk tru

  • @ericy91745
    @ericy91745 Před 9 měsíci +6

    If MAUI is as great as what MS claimed to be on cross platforms development, then their Visual Studio 2022/23 should build completely in MAUI. So VS for Mac can still live on

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 Před 8 měsíci

      Microsoft doesn't have the resources to rewrite anything from scratch, not even redo paint right with layers and transparency

  • @christiana7743
    @christiana7743 Před 4 měsíci

    In my uni's course we need to create a platformer game on C++ using Visual Studio. I have a macbook pro mid 2012 that runs Monterrey through an open core patcher. After downloading Visual Studio for Mac, I found that it is totally different from Visual Studio for windows. I have no clue how to work on that any ideas? (Virtual Machine is painfully slow and almost destroyed my pc so that's not an option unfortunatelly)

  • @mandardesai3841
    @mandardesai3841 Před 5 měsíci

    how can run mobile app based on maui/ Xamarin in visual studio code. In future can we see video demonstration from you.

  • @guidewired
    @guidewired Před 7 měsíci

    any timelines on VS 2022 working natively on mac? Just poking around with Code but I have really grown to love VS on windows. I really love all the quick refactoring.

  • @bitwisedevs469
    @bitwisedevs469 Před 8 měsíci

    Does .NET SDK for macOS will no longer get support in the future as well or only the IDE?

  • @DizmusT
    @DizmusT Před 9 měsíci

    I wonder whether it is possible to use iOS simulator and Android Emulator running on iOS from Visual Studio running on Windows in Parallels. Does anyone know?

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci

      you have to connect to a remote mac to do ios

  • @tonypitman5648
    @tonypitman5648 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I would love to run visual studio 2022 in parallels on my M1 Max MacBook Pro…in fact I did the other day. I do mobile development. The main reason I bought a Mac back in the day was to do xamarin for iOS. So the main reason I have been a fan of visual studio 2022 for Mac is because of what happened the other day. I loaded up parallels with windows 11 for arm, installed visual studio 2022 enterprise because the company I work for bought me a license. I then loaded up my latest xamarin project for android / iOS and worked on it a little bit. I noticed 2 things right away: first, it wasn’t very fast. Things ran slowly. Windows moved slowly. It took longer to build than visual studio 2022 for Mac. The second is that I heard something I hardly every here on my M1 Max Mac….the fan was going full blast. Nuf said…

  • @smileykot2834
    @smileykot2834 Před 7 měsíci

    So what is the difference between VSCode and Visual Studio?

  • @pubudusenarathne
    @pubudusenarathne Před 9 měsíci +4

    So what will be the future of Visual Studio with a MacBook? There won’t be any native support for a Visual Studio to run on a Mac?
    I recently bought a mac hoping Visual Studio for Mac would grow to the full fledged VS 2022 version. Now they drop it, any comments on it’s future? Do we have to run the windows version on parallels from now on?

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci +2

      yes, either windows version via parallels, or vscode with extensions

    • @pubudusenarathne
      @pubudusenarathne Před 9 měsíci

      @@AZisk thanks alot for replying man 👍🏻too bad this happened 😐

  • @Geryf
    @Geryf Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’m confused, I understanding that vsCode is just a text editor and visual studios is a heavy duty IDE. But what really is the difference if you plan to use a text editor + dozens of command line tools? What makes visual studios any different? I don’t mean this as a rhetorical question, I don’t understand. Editing text is just one portion is creating applications.

  • @stuartgreen5631
    @stuartgreen5631 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I wish the Visual Foxpo interface had become a VGER. The command window. Thank you. The data browser. The desktop where you could throw graphics, text. I ran PerI from Foxpro and had it show up in Foxpro. just liked the design of the barebones interface. The command window, the active desktop, and the browser. I just want that basic interface but evolved with lots of new guts.

  • @flexairz
    @flexairz Před 9 měsíci +1

    Same here: also a geek using VSCode on Windows, Mac & Linux. Love it!

  • @davidadesina3321
    @davidadesina3321 Před 8 měsíci

    So how large is visual studio in space. How many gigabytes is the entire download

  • @calahad
    @calahad Před 5 měsíci

    So VS Code for Mac is fine, right? Right?! (I just started learning, I don't want to change the platform)

  • @cbbcbb6803
    @cbbcbb6803 Před 7 měsíci

    What if vs code (and also vscodium) extensions could be nested? So to add php or python or any other, you could just install one specific extension that would bring in all of the other extensions you need to program in rust if rust is the language you want to work with currently. Or something like a super extension for JavaScript to install a reasonable set of extensions for JavaScript. Same thing, can I say it, yes I can, for Cobol.

  • @An-Orange-Fox
    @An-Orange-Fox Před 9 měsíci +7

    Why , its a great product. VS-Code doesnt have the same feature set.

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci +1

      it was a great product 10 years ago

    • @An-Orange-Fox
      @An-Orange-Fox Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@AZisk it was my first IDE , I remember building my first project on it. Good times :'(

  • @deangrande7002
    @deangrande7002 Před 9 měsíci +9

    i’m glad you did this video. i was wondering what i was missing out on since ditching Vs for vscode, five years ago. code has been ticking all the boxes… but i can now see that some performance tools are missing

  • @Space.
    @Space. Před 9 měsíci

    VSCode is basically chrome with built-in Chrome extension store

  • @JarppaGuru
    @JarppaGuru Před 9 měsíci

    0:19 i try it once too. it did not make mac app using same all code we know LOL just default install and it did not do sample. whaaaat?

  • @noahwaaga5079
    @noahwaaga5079 Před 14 dny

    Vim and nvim are for basically for small text editing (config editing, small bash scripts, etc.), vscode is for actual programming projects (although i use vscodium which doesnt have ms tracking) visual studio is for unity development
    Edit: these are my use cases

  • @roge530
    @roge530 Před 9 měsíci +1

    excellent video, I feel the same way as you do, all web development for I made it with VS Code on Mac, all .Net I use Remote desktop then I connect to desktop with the Mac. Sometimes when other developers ask me why I do that I tend to extend to a 15 minutos explanation about IDEs and Text Editors 😅

  • @alexeiz
    @alexeiz Před 9 měsíci +1

    So you say using VSCode to build code as text is as painful as using Vim. Then what do you say to those who install Vim extension for VSCode? Are they like "pain masters?"

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Main pastors indeed

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez Před 9 měsíci +1

    By the way, I use JetBrains.

  • @Stnkybo
    @Stnkybo Před 9 měsíci

    What’s the difference between vsCode and Visual studio?

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci

      Here’s a video to explain:
      czcams.com/video/N3kuEuauWv4/video.html

  • @oterotube13
    @oterotube13 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I ll be happy when finally vscode allows detach script window from the main program and use it in the other monitor.

  • @TagetesAlkesta
    @TagetesAlkesta Před 8 měsíci +1

    1:32 the fact that VS Code is “lightweight” compared to the beast that is proper Visual Studio is pretty funny to me

  • @MrBabadude
    @MrBabadude Před 9 měsíci

    What mic do you use? Your sound is next level.

  • @wertigon
    @wertigon Před 7 měsíci +2

    Main reason I use code over VS proper: It supports all the languages and programming environments out of box, and does so very, very well.
    While there are language specific IDEs that perform better in some instances, like CLion for hardware C code and VS for .NET, I just don't want to learn a new editor that behaves just slightly different enough for me to be annoyed by it. Shortcuts are not the same, my macros are not set up the same, et cetera.
    When you are working with a dozen languages over a multitude of development tools, C99 one day, C++17 another, Rust a third day, JavaScript / React or Node.js next week, all according to the client... Not requiring the runway to learn a new IDE to be just as productive as the big bois is incredible.
    VS Code is not perfect, but it is good enough that I can get to 95%+ productivity regardless. :)

  • @f11bot
    @f11bot Před 9 měsíci

    For Unity Devs what was the Visual Studio for Mac missing? They appear to be the same, but never used the Mac version :(

    • @FergJoe
      @FergJoe Před 9 měsíci +1

      If you’re a Unity dev on Mac (or PC honestly), you should be using Rider - its Unity tools are integrated and quite a bit ahead of VS.

    • @f11bot
      @f11bot Před 9 měsíci

      @@FergJoe isn't it paid tho? I don't feel any feature missing from VS on Windows, it was a big improvement over monodevelop tho!
      Can you name any advantages of Rider?

    • @jaa928
      @jaa928 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I'm not using Unity, but I've been slogging through VS on Mac. One missing feature I actually wanted was a Resource editor for localizing text. You can do it manually, but it is unnecessarily complicated and prone to mistakes.

    • @f11bot
      @f11bot Před 9 měsíci

      @@jaa928 I see... that seems more technical stuff. Thx for the feedback!

  • @rudymoralesjr
    @rudymoralesjr Před 9 měsíci +2

    We do call every soda here in Texas "cokes"...you just reenacted what happens at a Texas restaurant.

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci

      haha.

    • @grahamjl766
      @grahamjl766 Před 8 měsíci

      It's a south/southeastern thing. FL and GA do too b/c Coke is based out of Atlanta, and they have a generic trademark or proprietary eponym. Like how Google can mean ALL search engines in general.

  • @Chase2010TheMarioAndPokemonFan
    @Chase2010TheMarioAndPokemonFan Před 5 měsíci +1

    Rest In Peace Visual Studio for Mac 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️

  •  Před 7 měsíci

    Hey, could you explain me, what the difference is between Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code? (just kiddin'.. 😅)

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 7 měsíci

      oooh, you got me. :)

  • @andrewcrook6444
    @andrewcrook6444 Před 3 měsíci

    Studio also has all the reporting functionality that you can build into C# applications.

  • @jnr.guerreiro
    @jnr.guerreiro Před 4 měsíci

    Visual Studio IDE where I work, Visual Studio Code where I play.

  • @Tronetti9
    @Tronetti9 Před 9 měsíci

    What do you think about JetBrain IDEs?

  • @marcianoacuerda
    @marcianoacuerda Před 9 měsíci

    Nice video! And Microsoft has a thing with naming stuff, the Xbox naming has been crazy since Xbox one

  • @untitled6391
    @untitled6391 Před 19 dny

    I used Visual Studio first with Unity Engine and then at my job I used Visual Studio. I was so surprised to learn that even the keyboard shortcuts were different between the two. It made no sense to me why MS would do that. Of course you can change the keyboard mappings, but still.

  • @bdaunt
    @bdaunt Před 8 měsíci

    Can you cite the reference that states Visual Studio Code has been dropped?

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 8 měsíci

      code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_82 this was when Visual Studio Code “dropped”

  • @MailsonWei
    @MailsonWei Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thank you for making this video, I’m a junior developer. Usually my boss (non tech guy) won’t trust what I said or explain. So this video help me out

  • @markbennett1237
    @markbennett1237 Před 7 měsíci

    At work, I primarily program in C#. I use Visual Studio 2022 mostly, but also use VS Code if writing some code on Linux since Visual Studio 2022 doesn't run on Linux. Apparently though, you can now develop Linux application on Windows using Visual Studio 2022 through Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL), but I have not tried that yet. I prefer using Visual Studio 2022 over VS Code. VS Code doesn't have as many features and is still a bit buggy... or more likely it's the extensions that are buggy. Since I am writing portable code, I can develop on Windows, then use VS Code later to compile it on Linux.

  • @hemants1703
    @hemants1703 Před 9 měsíci

    You mean to say,
    Visual Studio Code: It can have extensions to make you feel that it just works...
    Visual Studio: It comes with language specific features with every "language-feature" based features built-in and actually just works...

  • @grandadmiralthrawn66
    @grandadmiralthrawn66 Před 9 měsíci +4

    We were all using Rider on Mac anyway.

    • @g9icy
      @g9icy Před 9 měsíci +2

      I refuse to pay a monthly subscription for an IDE, when I get like 3 hours a month to work on a side project.

    • @mokeev1995
      @mokeev1995 Před 9 měsíci

      @@g9icy then just use vs code, or buy subscription for a year or more and you’ll get lifetime license for the product you’ve bought

  • @BlizzardWind99
    @BlizzardWind99 Před 2 měsíci

    Visual Studio for Mac really helped in my final project as my judges want a GUI where I can demonstrate my project and VSC didn't provide that. So I searched and found VS for Mac but I had to link to Xcode... was a hassle but I passed. RIP Visual Studio for Mac

  • @Kinos141
    @Kinos141 Před 9 měsíci

    I had the hardest time with python because there wasn't a great IDE for it until VScode extensions. There's an ext pack that's absolutely amazing and it's free. Can't remember the name, though.

  • @brickcat5342
    @brickcat5342 Před měsícem

    i just want to ask why on earth xCode is 14GB, like thats 10% of my storage on my mac

  • @angrysob7962
    @angrysob7962 Před 9 měsíci +1

    OK...the "coke/pepsi" bit made me LoL. Great video, as per usual.

  • @StringBard
    @StringBard Před 9 měsíci

    Sorry to ask a maybe stupid question but I'm confused. If I wanted to develop a multi platform GUI app in an Apple Silicon Mac in a compiled language (like c++) and not interpreted (like javascript with Electron) what should be the best workflow to follow?
    Possibly without paying a pricy IDE like Jetbrains (I mean it would be okay to pay, but I don't like monthly payments).

    • @OCTAGRAM
      @OCTAGRAM Před 7 měsíci

      Embarcadero RAD Studio in Windows VM.
      If you don't mind your users hating you, you can also consider RemObjects Fire. They are able to target platforms natively, but whatever platform they target, they add unsolicited garbage collector to your otherwise good programs.

  • @SlackyMr
    @SlackyMr Před 5 měsíci

    I think the analogy of VS Code being a Swiss army knife is well chosen. I run a virtualization with multiple different OS and versions. Since VS Code is cross-platform, it feels nice to have the very same "fancy" code editor with the same settings on each platform without the need to install different applications and trying to remember all the keyboard shortcuts and menu item locations. VS Code is quite powerful and the WSL integration is a big plus and it gets the job done. Yet, sometimes you need to bring out the big guns to handle big and complex projects, here MS Studio shines with all the integrated tools. Having MS Studio availble for Linux would be awsome :)

  • @brendanalexander6053
    @brendanalexander6053 Před 16 dny

    I tried running VS 2022 on mac with parallels. problem is you can't run docker desktop because virtualization is not supported (no WSL). virtual windows on mac cannot support virtual Linux in virtualization. this was a deal breaker for me. was a nice little experiment tho.

  • @nil2k
    @nil2k Před 5 měsíci

    The example conversation about Coke sounds like a normal restaurant conversation in Texas.

  • @jeffjolley6684
    @jeffjolley6684 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I don’t see any news where Microsoft drops support for VS Code, and there is no retirement statement for VS Code. What do you mean “Microsoft also drops Visual Studio Code”??

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 9 měsíci

      the kind of dropped as in "the airlift dropped food into the camp"

  • @HaseebHeaven
    @HaseebHeaven Před 9 měsíci +6

    Its simple Coding editor vs IDE everyone knows the difference between them dont make it too hard to explain this 😅.
    VS 2022 is fully integrated development kit, while VSCode is just a code editor basic one without code running or debugging capabilities unless you add extensions its that simple.😊

  • @fgiarol
    @fgiarol Před 3 dny

    That's one more reason I think Microsoft should adopt Rider as the main IDE for .NET platform, even for Windows.

  • @TheBlackmanIsGod
    @TheBlackmanIsGod Před 7 měsíci

    After watching this video I’m even more confused on the differences from Visual Studio for Mac, Visual studio 2022, and visual studio code…… so confusing, I know I use one of them to write code…. The one with extensions which one is that???

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 Před 8 měsíci +3

    3:42 Fun fact: text files can be managed with version control. They can be easily compared to see what has changed. Can your binary project format offer that?

    • @AZisk
      @AZisk  Před 8 měsíci +1

      What is my binary project format?

  • @ligregni
    @ligregni Před měsícem

    3:06 - no heat, it's painfully satisfying to use VIm

  • @bisarothub1644
    @bisarothub1644 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I use visual studio for mac for dotnet while vscode on angular, php and some mobile dev stuff. I wish microsoft will add create new component on angular and typescript code gen similar to nswag studio on their next visual studio release. Also, i wish microsoft adds an option to compile dotnet separately with angular on their dotnet - angular template, similar when running vscode wherein you type dotnet run and ng serve.

  • @VVesson
    @VVesson Před 9 měsíci

    VSCode still does not support iPadOS, since it's built on electron

  • @RoySATX
    @RoySATX Před 4 měsíci

    2:19 I live and grew up in Texas, everyone here knows when I say I want a coke what I am asking for is a Big Red. Except when I am wanting a Dr Pepper, then I ask for a coke and everyone knows I'm wanting a Dr Pepper. The only problem comes when I'm wanting a Mr Pibb and ask for a coke, partly because Mr Pibb was switched to Pibb Xtra in 2001 and partly because I live in a city where Coca-Cola is bottled so, despite all being owned by the same company, they don't sell Pibb in cities where a bottling plant is or where Dr Pepper is sold. You can't get there from here. In any case, in that case, saying coke but wanting a Pibb, I usually get served some off-brand Root Beer. There are limits to our dialect. And just so you know, I never want a Coca-Cola when I ask for a coke, who does? coKe !Coca-Cola.

  • @davidlean8674
    @davidlean8674 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank god, I thought from the title they were killing VS 2022 & forcing us all to VS Code. Starting a new project in VS, just brings me joy. It is one of my favourite applications. The only disappointment is they no longer make an add-in for developing powershell.

  • @garrysingh4484
    @garrysingh4484 Před 9 měsíci +1

    When Microsoft releasing the "Retail" Windows 11 Arm64 ???
    (I know - Not talking about Parallel)

    • @wclifton968gameplaystutorials
      @wclifton968gameplaystutorials Před 9 měsíci

      theres no retail ARM processors on the market, so no need for a retail Windows on Arm release, I am of course ignoring the Ampere Computing "Ampere Ultra" but that is just one product amongst a wrath of Arm SoCs which needs to be invididually ported to else there will likely be missing features...

  • @RyuBerlin36
    @RyuBerlin36 Před 12 dny

    After about 20 years of Visual Studio I moved to IntellJ last year for all my development tasks. Using Webstorm instead of vscode and Rider instead of Visual Studio. And I do like it a lot.

  • @weareallbeingwatched4602
    @weareallbeingwatched4602 Před 5 měsíci

    Microsoft deleting the competitions like it is still the '90s

  • @botondbertalan4992
    @botondbertalan4992 Před 9 měsíci +1

    It was a very short silence for the Visual Studio for Mac at the end. 😂

  • @duality4y
    @duality4y Před 8 měsíci +1

    everything integrated into one environment == 90GB of disk space or more.

  • @soofiishaa
    @soofiishaa Před 9 měsíci +2

    Yes! I also use Visual Studio on my Mac by Paralles😀

  • @BriefNerdOriginal
    @BriefNerdOriginal Před 9 měsíci +2

    Many PhD students and researchers use VScode for its simplicity, integrations and multiplatform nature. And yes , I am one of that weirdos loving pain, as I used Kate on Linux for my Cython programming 🤓

  • @davidb3925
    @davidb3925 Před 7 měsíci

    As a C#/ Angular dev I use both. I swear that the Visual Studio developers must be really pissed off that they aren't allowed to add the editor functionality that is in VS Code. Like easy code reformatting as well as linting which is so temperamental.

  • @truth-12345.
    @truth-12345. Před 27 dny

    I use VS 2022 for C/C++ development.

  • @steamerSama
    @steamerSama Před 9 měsíci

    I loved VS for mac. I still use it for game development. Sad to see it go.

  • @walterishere5864
    @walterishere5864 Před 7 měsíci

    I remembered first installing Visual Studio for Mac and wondering what in the world I installed.