Guy's Lancaster Bomber: The BEST moments from his WW2 Adventure | Guy Martin Proper

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  • In Guy's recent documentary for Channel 4, he honours Lancaster bomber crews of World War II, as he tries out several on-board roles from pilot to gunner and 'bomb aimer'. Has he got what it takes to join Bomber Command? Watch some of the best moments here and the full documentary here: www.channel4.com/programmes/g...
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  • @ml.2770
    @ml.2770 Před rokem +38

    My grandad flew in one of these with the RAF as navigator. He survived 6 missions over Europe. Nobody he flew with on his first mission survived the war. He never flew in a plane again after the war and spent a year in a mental hospital after it was over, became an alcoholic, a school teacher, electrician, went back to university for a literature degree after he got sober, taught English literature and metalwork. Retired and started an electrical contracting business and was the best grandad a boy ever had.

  • @davidyoung5114
    @davidyoung5114 Před rokem +9

    My father flew more than 60 missions over occupied Europe during the war as a mid-upper gunner in a Lancaster Pathfinder, which was the most dangerous assignment there was during the bombing missions. They had to precede the two waves of bombers in order to determine if (A) the weather allowed the mission to proceed, and (B) where the first wave was to drop their bomb loads by dropping green flares over the intended target. They then had to get out of the way of the first wave, go in to assess the damage done, drop red flares to identify if that area was successfully bombed, and drop more green flares to identify the next target, get out of the way for the second wave, and then go back in again to take photos for Bomber Command to evaluate how much damage was done, and only then could they head back to England. Dad passed in 1998. R.I.P. Wildred G. Young, D.F.C. We owe those brave men so much!

  • @occam5052
    @occam5052 Před rokem +11

    There will only ever be one Fred Dibnah, but Guy is a worthy successor 🇬🇧😊

  • @AnikaJarlsdottr
    @AnikaJarlsdottr Před rokem +53

    I love how where ever our Guy goes, people are offering him a job. the man gives 110% in everything and it shows to the people around him. a true national treasure.

    • @thegamingnoob4368
      @thegamingnoob4368 Před rokem +4

      Guy might just have the biggest and best CV on the planet

    • @AnikaJarlsdottr
      @AnikaJarlsdottr Před rokem +5

      @@thegamingnoob4368 Job offers from master trade and craftsmen in Japan, job offers from multiple historical restoration groups in the uk, if they count as references then he is set for just about anything. I think the reason he doesn't go for any of them is that he just enjoys the truck mechanic job he currently has. he isn't happy unless he has a spanner in his hands, true salt of the earth 😄

    • @thegamingnoob4368
      @thegamingnoob4368 Před rokem +4

      @@AnikaJarlsdottr couldn’t have said it better myself! 😂

    • @dafyddthomas7299
      @dafyddthomas7299 Před rokem +1

      agree

  • @08Barclay
    @08Barclay Před rokem +27

    My cousin, P/O A E (Bert) West, of Vancouver B.C. flew as a tail gunner in a Lanc 111 out of East Kirkby. He was RCAF, attached to RAF 57 Squadron. A couple of days after his 20th birthday, he was badly shot up by a German night fighter over Stuttgart July 29th 1944. He survived the flight back to England, and died en route to Ipswich hospital from the base they landed at. He was the only member of the crew that was injured that night. The tail gunner was tasked with watching out for German fighters attacking, and called the “Break” to the pilot, to confuse the attackers aim. If he fired his guns, it would pinpoint their location to every fighter around. The fact that his crew survived 3 attacks, meant that he did it right. In 2006 I was the first West, to visit his gravesite in Brookwoods Cemetary, close to Woking. A very moving experience for sure! I visited East Kirkby and saw his name on the wall of honour, and toured “Just Jane. “. Thanks to all of the brave youngsters for going out night after night, to a very uncertain future. RIP, you are not forgotten! Incidentally, German night fighter records are so detailed, that I believe I know which German pilot, shot him. The tragedy is, they might have been friends in different circumstances, each just doing their respective jobs.

  • @chickenman9487
    @chickenman9487 Před rokem +8

    M Grandfather was an Australian navigator on a Landcaster bomber this is first time ive seen where he sat God Bless his soul a Brave man

  • @markorollo.
    @markorollo. Před rokem +14

    this country needs more Guy Martins and Fred Dibnah types, hard working, willing to try things and give 100% to everything they try.

  • @gavinkitchen1472
    @gavinkitchen1472 Před rokem +7

    I remember speaking to an Australian WW2 Lancaster Pilot. He was just 19 when he first flew the Lancaster. He reckons he was too young to know what was going on, he reckons that If he was older there's no way he would of done it.

  • @GenaF
    @GenaF Před rokem +18

    It was always fantastic to hear Johnny Johnson talk about flying the Lancasters under the power cables and up and over Crosskeys bridge at Sutton Bridge. I live in Sutton Bridge and always look at the cables and bridge thinking 'Bloody Hell'.

  • @bennyc6694
    @bennyc6694 Před rokem +4

    I have the very fortunate experience of living near the Warplane Heritage Museum Hamilton Ont Canada) and one of two working planes left in the world & it flies over every summer & no matter what you're doing you stop, listen & watch. It's a sight for sure!

  • @patton303
    @patton303 Před rokem +2

    My grandfather actually flew as a navigator in the B-24 out of Italy with the 8th Air Force of the USAAF which was another tough airplane, but the American airmen had a deep respect for the RAF airmen and especially those who flew the Lancaster. My grandfather kept in touch with an RAF bombardier called Denny Oldham for their entire lives until he passed. They became close friends when he was stationed in England. Denny would send us kids Cadbury Flake chocolate from the UK every Christmas for many years. RIP Leo and Denny.

  • @moffatt43
    @moffatt43 Před rokem +6

    I do so Love Guys enthusiasm for everything that he does and WoW having the opportunity to just sit in a Lanc would be pretty bloody awesome.
    Don’t think I’d have liked to be in one during WW2 tho !
    The aircrews were pretty brave doing 1 flight, but having to do multiple missions is awe inspiring.
    My Dad was RAF and he flew in a Tiger Moth trainer from BassingBourne to Cambridge and it took not long at all ( like 20 minutes ) but on the way back with a Head wind they were being overtaken on the ground by someone from the base in a Car ! Ended up taking a hour and a bit !!.
    Dad worked on the Meteor and he went out to Saudi ( he wasn’t that keen being over there ).
    My Dad was originally from Jarrow but he settled in Sawston with me Mum,we were pretty close to Duxford so I grew up with the Merlin growl in my ears and I learnt to drive on IWM Runway before it became the IWM, I went digging in the Gun Pits and had a whale of a time exploring the Airfield before it was closed to the public.
    Dad’s favourite aircraft was the Spitfire but he was pretty adamant that the Hurricane should have received more recognition than it got.
    Sadly my parents have passed away now but…. What absolutely bloody amazing parents they were and the memories I have are pretty bloody terrific.
    I still get the shivers when I hear the Merlins and I can imagine how my Dad as he now has his own set of Wings being up there with the Pilots.

    • @samrodian919
      @samrodian919 Před rokem +2

      That's such a nice tribute to your mum and dad. RIP both of them.

  • @derekfromtauranga6012
    @derekfromtauranga6012 Před rokem +5

    My late uncle from NZ was a Lancaster pilot for the RAF in WW2. They wanted him as a navigator so he “failed” his navigators test because he wanted to be the pilot. He flew sorties over Europe and Germany. He also ferried American made planes from Halifax in Canada to England as well as being a flight instructor. He always said the Packard Merlin engines weren’t as good as the Rolls Royce Merlin’s but I don’t remember why. He told me he and some RAF friends had an old London taxi they used for transport and the petrol was “supplied” by the US army from their jerry cans off the jeeps they drove. Luckily he survived the war but suffered terrible nightmares for a long time afterwards.

    • @samrodian919
      @samrodian919 Před rokem +2

      It's not surprising that many of the surviving aircrew from everywhere on the globe suffered what we know now as PTSD. given the abuse all of Bomber Command got after the war from the very politicians who sent them to bomb Germany, the journalists who celebrated the raids then after the war called bomber command murderers. It's not surprising at all the poor buggers suffered mentally. It was a disgrace that Bomber Command never got its own medal until much later, or it's own memorial until the 21 st century. A total disgrace. Much of this was down to the master politician Churchill. He encouraged Sir Arthur Harris to bomb the fuck out of Germany in the area bombing campaign, then after Dresden back pedalled and let the journalists know he didn't really want the RAF to do these things. I am a great admirer of Churchill during the war, but after not so much so. He wanted to save his arse for posterity.

    • @SIXITHS
      @SIXITHS Před rokem +1

      @@samrodian919 Churchill has an unfortunate history of doing these things. It was due to his downplaying of Hugh Dowding's vital contribution to the air defence of the UK that Dowding was largely forgotten until decades later.

    • @samrodian919
      @samrodian919 Před rokem +1

      @@SIXITHS yes I entirely agree, Hugh Dowding and Keith Park were treated abominably by Churchill, due to the Chinese whispers from Sholto Douglas and the bloody useless Trafford Leigh-Mallory , who fucked everything up thereafter. Lucky for us he died in a plane crash before the end of the war so he couldn't kill more poor buggers by his uselessness . Now THERE's Irony for you !

  • @jaynelee
    @jaynelee Před rokem +14

    I loved seeing inside the Lancaster and all it’s operations, my uncle flew those planes in WW11, but unfortunately they were shot down somewhere in the English Channel nearing France, there were no survivors 😢❤ Evidently they were a decoy mission and they all new that they were to be shot down so that the other planes could come in at another position and strike, in other words they were a suicide mission and they weren’t able to tell anyone, it was top secret. The crew all had to write on paper telling there stories to there loved ones that they were sorry that they wouldn’t be coming back. What a hero, well they all were and I’m very proud to be his Niece, my uncles name was Raymond Lee 💜💜💜 by the way I am a big fan of yours 😊😊 peace !!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @samrodian919
      @samrodian919 Před rokem +3

      Thank you for your service and your sacrifice. RIP Raymond Lee

    • @jaynelee
      @jaynelee Před rokem +2

      @@samrodian919 Thankyou very much for your reply ✈️

  • @rickrayn
    @rickrayn Před rokem +6

    My Dad was a navigator in Lancasters and then later in Halifaxes with No. 6 Group, the Canadian Bomb Group. He was awarded the DFC.

    • @samrodian919
      @samrodian919 Před rokem +3

      A brave man sir. I salute him and all his colleagues.

  • @petersteel9331
    @petersteel9331 Před rokem +4

    Nice restoration Guy my father flu on Lancasters he went as a volunteer from Chile Robert Steel DFC Pathfinder the pilot was Australian Charlie Edge

  • @sallybeacham8125
    @sallybeacham8125 Před rokem +1

    Bomber Command, only recently acknowledged for the service and sacrifices they made. We must never forget them, tell your children, your grandchildren let their memory live on.

    • @alanjones6359
      @alanjones6359 Před rokem

      My dad served in bomber command in halifaxi's 29 ops till shot up in Belgium bailed out with a dicky parachute that opened ok to his relief 2 days on the run trying to reach Paris to contact the resistance who would guide downed airmen to Spain but was captured and spent the rest of the war as a POW , he had a gripe for years that bomber command were overlooked until they erected the memorial to them in in London and awarded them a medal years later , I attended the funeral of a fellow POW he was incarcerated with who also served in bomber command buried with full military honours because he maintained connections to the RAF after the war , a military historian spoke at the funeral and said he spoke to a group of young germans in frankfurt who told him if it wasn't for the actions of the RAF and the USAAC Germany would not have the freedom and democracy they have today

  • @SpenCrowson
    @SpenCrowson Před rokem +4

    A great bloke to work with, loved having him at East Kirkby.

  • @GenaF
    @GenaF Před rokem +7

    Absolutely love Guy!! Just Jane is an amazing plane. We have a Mini event there each September and get photos of our Minis with this gorgeous plane.

  • @YoutubeHandlesSuckBalls
    @YoutubeHandlesSuckBalls Před rokem +4

    My dad used to work on a Lancaster at RAF Coningsby in the 70's, the one used in the Battle of Britain flyover. They hand pick the engineers from all the RAF, and it was a prestigious job because at the time there was only one flying Lancaster left.

  • @mikepocock575
    @mikepocock575 Před rokem +1

    Wonderful,good old Guy,he always give 100%.Lovely to see my hero Johnny Johnson.Cracking video.

  • @Jeff-vv9uy
    @Jeff-vv9uy Před rokem +7

    Love the plane. Always been a big fan Guy every thing you do and talk about is always so interesting.

  • @Ok-551
    @Ok-551 Před rokem +2

    Thanks. My Grandad was a rear gunner on Lanc’s. Great stories.

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus Před rokem +1

    His personality really shines through and that accent is *wonderful!*

  • @RUSure-jm9rp
    @RUSure-jm9rp Před rokem +1

    When you have a passion for life, give 100% and have balls, these are the nice things that come your way.

  • @Lebretonvenitien
    @Lebretonvenitien Před rokem +2

    I'm fan from France !!!!

  • @garrybeard7718
    @garrybeard7718 Před rokem +3

    Still saying this man deserves a Knighthood ☕️👍👍👍

  • @andrewdavies984
    @andrewdavies984 Před měsícem

    A good friend of ours came over from Mauritius and joined the R.A.F. He joined Bomber Command and said one of his last missions was down to Berchestgarden.. to bomb Hitler's Mountain Retreat in April 1945. I remember as a child in the 60's showing him a book I had on aircraft.....there was a painting of a Lancaster over its target. I remember as an 8 yr old him pointing to the bomb aimer blister and saying "That's where I was" WOW

  • @robertneven7563
    @robertneven7563 Před rokem +1

    hello i visit a Lanc in Nanton Albert Canada, amazing plane

  • @daviddavies2072
    @daviddavies2072 Před rokem +1

    Great video, cheers, always enjoy watching guy's adventures, well done

  • @rappers5719
    @rappers5719 Před rokem +2

    My father was a rear gunner in Lancasters and Short Sterlings. He was based in Lincoln. Part of the SOE. Never really spoke about it. Just some snippets. He always said, it was a job.

  • @tracyhoughton3749
    @tracyhoughton3749 Před 4 dny

    Love anything he does, he has so much passion and puts his all into everything. I live in lincolnshire to so i can understand him 😅❤ love watching Jane taxi to, what a privilege for him. Then he gets to meet johnny Johnson to 😊❤. Epic

  • @hagar6359
    @hagar6359 Před rokem +2

    my father in law was a tail gunner. Now I know why his hair was white from such an early age. What a job just seeing where you have been not where you are going, and so high up in the air in a glass bubble OMG. So much respect to him and any other tail gunners for doing that. Must have had balls of steel! He told me he had to learn to fly the plane if the pilot was killed, he said trying to keep it level and in the air was murder, so hard to keep it from diving

  • @danielschley3972
    @danielschley3972 Před rokem +3

    Amazing content bro! Guy is the best 😉

  • @tonyjedioftheforest1364

    Brilliant video thank you for sharing

  • @laustinspeiss
    @laustinspeiss Před rokem +2

    That plane looks to be in fantastically good condition for it’s age - even with restoration !

    • @carlosoruna7174
      @carlosoruna7174 Před rokem

      You have no idea what the restoration cost. Millions.

  • @jorgerostagnol5753
    @jorgerostagnol5753 Před rokem

    Excelente gracias. Desde Colonia Uruguay.

  • @johnnyllooddte3415
    @johnnyllooddte3415 Před rokem +3

    amazing.. ive flown a few bombers, ww2 and newer.. amazing , well done

  • @Normandy1944
    @Normandy1944 Před rokem +1

    I'm extremely jealous of Guy's adventures...the most telling thing I enjoy is when he points out the obvious most folks don't perceive. Like the aspect of being dragged backward to and from Germany and how thin the skin is on those birds, thus perpetuating what their real purpose was.

  • @dotarsojat7725
    @dotarsojat7725 Před 8 měsíci

    Brilliant Vid Guy!
    My Dad WAS a Lancaster rear gunner, in 433 Porcupine Sqdn RCAF, based out of Skipton-on-Swale. An Uncle, was a Navigator in Lancs, with 428 Ghost Sqdn RCAF, flying from Middleton St. George.
    Cheers!

  • @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710

    Hi very interesting to see inside. I saw one fly along with a B- 17 at our local air show in Houston, Texas in the early 90's. Sounds like four P - 51 Mustangs flying past. Great sounds.

  • @dumpjeep
    @dumpjeep Před rokem

    Top shelf content.

  • @aujay
    @aujay Před rokem

    Guy has the honour to spend time with a Dambuster, now that is something no one will ever be able to do again.

  • @7W7W7
    @7W7W7 Před rokem +1

    “Seen a couple euro fighters, if we can get a couple of them” 😂😂😂 hilarious

  • @aj-tp2yh
    @aj-tp2yh Před rokem

    Good work

  • @davelee9527
    @davelee9527 Před rokem

    Loved watching 🤩🤩👏👏👏👏👏👏👏✌✌

  • @iaingibbs9589
    @iaingibbs9589 Před rokem +1

    Well done guy how could you imagine yourself 70 years ago doing the job for real

  • @RBrown-fw3ez
    @RBrown-fw3ez Před rokem +1

    There’s a fully restored and operational Lancaster which offers of flights over Niagara Fall located in Hamilton, Ontario. Canada.

  • @harrywright5705
    @harrywright5705 Před rokem

    Need more guy and ww2

  • @jimmyquinn9639
    @jimmyquinn9639 Před rokem

    Brilliant 👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @caryccharlson
    @caryccharlson Před rokem

    Very interesting

  • @isaacsrandomvideos667

    awesome plane

  • @ecalzo
    @ecalzo Před rokem +1

    Wow.. special.. i would have done it myself ..

  • @cm9247
    @cm9247 Před rokem

    The Lank! Now THERES a fine ship. She was one heavy hitter.

  • @mayandas9581
    @mayandas9581 Před rokem

    Beautiful.discovery

  • @vincekane4119
    @vincekane4119 Před 11 měsíci

    Fortunate to see it fly overhead today over grimsthorpe castle 😎

  • @andrewroozen9151
    @andrewroozen9151 Před rokem

    Interesting to see this as my great uncle was a bomb aimer on a Lancaster, I'm just starting to find out about him after seeing the Lancaster movie. His Lancaster was shot down by a night fighter in the Nuremburg raids. Very interesting to see that the bomb aimer is described as the most important role.

    • @timgray5231
      @timgray5231 Před rokem

      Whilst the whole affair was a team effort...........ultimately if you missed the target the whole thing was a waste of time. Although if he said go around again........he was cursed to the enth degree!!

  • @Oooo-bi7bi
    @Oooo-bi7bi Před rokem

    I’m only here because my mums dad. Survived the last two years of the war as a tail gunner in a Lancaster.

  • @michaelbrown4434
    @michaelbrown4434 Před rokem +1

    That's at East Kirkby is anyone wants to go see it :)

  • @100musicplaylists3
    @100musicplaylists3 Před rokem +1

    Guy, please do some videos on velomobiles. Or build a velomobile with a double hammock in it. Nobody has done that yet.

  • @falklandswar2
    @falklandswar2 Před rokem

    its crazy seeing a firing turret at night

  • @redfox4098
    @redfox4098 Před rokem +1

    Mother , dear mother wired the cockpits in Malton Ont Canada while Dad walked across Europe 1940-1945 in the end liberating Holland.

  • @outlawflyer7868
    @outlawflyer7868 Před rokem

    What an awesome job and plane but I am confused because at 2:15 guy was in a plane that only had one yoke, there's only one plane so where did the second plane come from since the one he's taxying has two yokes.

  • @John-ob7dh
    @John-ob7dh Před rokem

    can't c it ever happening to me in a Lanc .
    But went up a year ago in a 1944 Spitfire.

  • @gavinkitchen1472
    @gavinkitchen1472 Před rokem +1

    Guy, I think you could've done any job in Bomber Command you set your mind to. Apparently a lot of the guys in Bomber Command were young & naive, but they all did a bloody good job!

  • @funnycrab8309
    @funnycrab8309 Před rokem

    0:35 My grandpa was a back gunner for a Lancaster in ww2

    • @Anakin_Sandy_High_Ground
      @Anakin_Sandy_High_Ground Před rokem

      You’re very lucky he survived. Bomber crews only had a 1 in 3 chance of surviving the war

  • @misskhanitthakumrong3901

    Hello Everyone, My nickname is Meaw 🐈, I come from Phrae province of Thailand.😻💕

  • @MrBluboy59
    @MrBluboy59 Před rokem

    ww2 my dad was in the Lancaster bomber (75 SQUADRON) going by all the paper work he left to me they did alot of damage on their missions

  • @Barchenhund
    @Barchenhund Před rokem +1

    Worst job in WWII. Dragged over German backwards. Made me chuckle.

  • @davidshattock9522
    @davidshattock9522 Před rokem +1

    He would probably be good at teaching difficult kids mechanical engineering as his credentials prove he has the ability and balls to not get them to do any thing he would not they wouldfollow him in shortfirst step in things

  • @novagolt8806
    @novagolt8806 Před rokem +2

    Haha... Did Guy really use the german way of signaling three at 4:10 ?

  • @skippmclovan1135
    @skippmclovan1135 Před 6 měsíci

    2,000rpm taxi run swing to port due prop torque over-response? ..need right rudder input correction??

  • @redfox4098
    @redfox4098 Před rokem

    Father in law from Belfast NI swam to a fishing boat at Dunkirk applies for transfer to RAF trained as bombardier navigator in PEI CANADA flying Wellington,s out of India with the famous Burma bombers .

  • @roysmith4716
    @roysmith4716 Před rokem

    My uncle Mick won the DFC for bringing his crew back from Germany with a badly damaged bomber.

  • @pisstinpete4700
    @pisstinpete4700 Před rokem

    Did he say “ navigate off the stairs?”

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 Před rokem

    Guy I love your shows, I admire your talent, but you're NOT a cameraman ☹️

  • @jessefpv9217
    @jessefpv9217 Před rokem +2

    I’d give my zx10r for a ride in one of theses at night… I’d love it. Just look out the astrodome at midnight would be amazing

    • @kul793
      @kul793 Před rokem

      There's one here in Canada that flies out of the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum. I live about 20 km away. Whenever it flies over my area, I try to get outside to watch. It looks and sounds amazing. You can go for a ride in it, $3500 per person.

  • @imposantermrbubblebutt8197

    romantic, we had a lot of them over the skies of germany many years ago.

  • @dafyddthomas7299
    @dafyddthomas7299 Před rokem

    both are best of british

  • @davidshattock9522
    @davidshattock9522 Před rokem

    On one of his tv shows he was I believe with the royal marines in a hover craft where they let him drive them into a simulated battle .iknow they are elite and don't trust and outsider do that no but his commitment buys trust.when he put himself through 10 para training so he could do the parachutejump on awwtwo commemoration jump he again showed commitment to the cause by doing the milling which isboxing with nodefence just offensive.hitting they tried him by making him fight the Sgt major a huge bloke who when asked said ihit him some one askedwhat happened he hit.me right back onthe nose they asked is that bad reply nohe didn't stop he came right.back at me we want him.we like him.a hard to get confidence vote from hard m en.its called trust.i would say.

  • @imcool2329
    @imcool2329 Před rokem

    69k views 🤨

  • @mohankumarc2767
    @mohankumarc2767 Před rokem

    Highly appreciated....but his English is too fast and garbled for non English familiar viewers to follow.
    Thank you.

  • @jerrygoldstein3028
    @jerrygoldstein3028 Před rokem

    I wish I knew language he was speaking
    I can only speak English frown face ☹️

  • @fresatx
    @fresatx Před rokem

    Did they send this Guy fellow to learn English better? I can understand most of what he says now... A few years ago it was less than half.

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 Před rokem

    The cockpit is so completely exposed !
    The pilots must have looked like goldfish in a bowl to the Germans ! ☹️

  • @billmiller2051
    @billmiller2051 Před rokem

    .303 British?

  • @yindyamarra
    @yindyamarra Před rokem +1

    First

  • @gamesfamilia3989
    @gamesfamilia3989 Před rokem

    🐓😀🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓😚😎

  • @michalwrobel1564
    @michalwrobel1564 Před rokem

    Ne comprenez-vous pas VOUS, les Français, que nous, Polonais et autres nations de l'Est, ne sommes pas comme VOUS luttant pour votre bien-être. Nous sommes une famille divisée par les Russes