Can The TFL Pro Land Cruiser Crush Toyota's Best Off-Road SUV in the Dirt? | TFLpro S.1 Ep.5
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- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) With all our modifications, can the TFLpro Toyota Land Cruiser beat the 4Runner TRD Pro at its own game? We find out by throwing down off-road!
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Small Correction: The Toyota TRD Pro comes standard from the factory with Nitto G2 Terra Grapplers not Duratracs and we stated.The new Metaltech rock sliders were not yet installed when we filmed this episode.
The Fast Lane Truck what I was gonna say, them ain’t duratracs
What happen to the metalTech rock sliders??
Ha! You had me going for a minute there. I rewound and paused it just to be sure.
You deflate your tires at all? Dont see the tires flattening out when going over rocks.
The Fast Lane Truck definitely not duratracs but the duratracs are great off-road especially in snow and slushy conditions.
This land cruiser should be your new rescue rig
And the 4RUNNER TRD PRO is the Rescue Rig of all Rescue Rigs
And the 4RUNNER TRD PRO is the Vehicle that transports the rescue vehicle ..
@@CP-kb1du 4runner owners have so much land cruiser envy. You'll see them hating on land cruisers on every CZcams channel and Facebook group. Annoying AF
@@Joricano 4Runner for going offroad and Landcruiser for going offroad and return home again.
If Toyota ever offered a TRD pro version of a Landcruiser, I'd mortgage my house to buy it.
MCWormGuy 😂
MCWormGuy in asia there’s a trd version
@@sandovaldaronkurt8048 Really? Can't find it. Could you send pics, links, etc.?
It is not a pro version it is only sold in dubai but in the philippines you can buy it for P6million pesos(120k$) search it in google
MCWormGuy search it in Carousell
So we're going to see if a Toyota off-road vehicle can be a Toyota off road vehicle
Svein-Harald Ribland do you even Toyota bro?
ArmasADVish clearly not land cruiser is off road version of sequoia
Svein-Harald Ribland Uh no, the reason why the 200 series doesn’t have a TRD package is because it is a Land Cruiser witch means that it doesn’t need upgrades to make it off road worthy, it is already built to go off road so the Land Cruiser is a real off road car while the 4Runner is more an on road car.
Baizer Land Cruiser has nothing to do with the Sequoia
Eduardo Giordanelli then why’d Toyota literally release a statement saying that they are similar sizes just the Lc is made for off roading and the sequoia is comfortable and family oriented nice try bud
TLC don’t need pro version cuz every TLC is pro....
Where did the sliders go?
Thor Bostrom I came to ask the same thing.
yea didn’t it have yellow fog lights too?
lane rogers I think they talked about it, but never did it.
Haha, good catch. Must have been an editing snafu and they shot the video for most of this episode before the slider installation.
@Edward Calcut your not off roading if your not on the rock sliders. Sliders are not for looks. Real sliders do not get hung up, that is why they are called sliders.
I was really hoping that when you said, "we're missing 2 important things," you were going to say a front and rear locker lol
lol yup first thing i said was front locker thats all the trd needs to be perfect
I thought one of them were the sliders, because they are missing on this video.
3 things...lockers and a solid front axle.
@@Ryno-fp7pm Unless you plan on doing some seriously technical rock crawling, you don't need a solid front axle. I see drivers in Australia climb some of the hardest trails on earth with IFC (Land Cruisers, of course) and never miss a beat. It's more psychological than anything else. Somebody tells you enough times that "you cannot do it without blah blah blah," we start to believe it.
Big fan of the red center caps! Adds a Nice look even though it’s a small detail.
If Toyota offered a small V8 in the 4Runner again....I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
I totally agree. Until then, I'll stick with my "TRD Bro" 4th gen V8
Lexus GX460
Gx460 my man.
@@geo6111 Not a fan of the barn door
heard Toyota is gonna use its 3.5 with a new transmission in its next gen 4runner
Behold the mighty Land Cruiser! Hats off for this amazing machine.
I would like to suggest you install ARB lockers front and rear activated with center locking diff system all three simultaneously.
Don't do that, then you'd be able to crawl up the side of a cliff after your lost mountain goat LOL.
Awesome video series guys! I know you know they aren't duratrac tires, we're all human and make mistakes. I'd like to see you use A-trac in those situations where you're a little stuck. It works very well. From a 4runner trd owner
I say if you want fuel efficiency please buy a Prius 🤷🏿♂️
My two favorite SUV’s ever. I own the 4Runner and love every single thing about it and that land cruiser is absolutely beautifulllll
landcruiser is best reliable vehicle in the whole world 🌎 really doesn't break down
Svein-Harald Ribland same family of course
Svein-Harald Ribland it isn’t more reliable than the Land Cruiser
Svein-Harald Ribland Wrong, land cruisers are built better
@@svein-haraldribland8559 you need to educate yourself on Land Cruisers friend.
they do break, all of them, 40/6070/80/100/200 series, all of them have some kinf of achilles heel by design
The Land Cruiser would be my pick
I love the build but I honestly think it would’ve looked better to not have the snorkel and instead have a roof rack like the 4Runner has
Snorkel gets you clean air, the roof rack doesn't...Protect the 85K truck first, then roof rack it.
The Snorkel is totally not required for this simple off road test ..beyond over kill .......zero water crossings here
@@CP-kb1du A snorkel in itself is not for crossing the water. You would need to add dif and transmission breathers, waterproof the electrics for that. Snorkel take care dust doesn't get into the engine. Especially when driving in convoy or in dusty areas. But yes, in this scenario it doesn't seem to add much. Maybe a bit of extra air at this altitude.
Bout to trade in my RAM for an older land cruiser, lol
ANTHONY FITZGERALD well I guess you can’t fix stupid
@@Welcometofacsistube I like working on my Dodge on weekends.If I bought a Land cruiser what would I do?Maybe go fishing.
J L fishing for parts in the junkyard because #rustyjapcrap
Good choice.
@@Welcometofacsistube you seem upset just by reading someone's comment... #triggered?
Great job guys
Your land cruiser could definitely use wheel spacers
I watch all your videos and love it
What would wheel spacers add in terms of performance?
Nothing
Wheel spacers help to accelerate the wear on your wheel bearings and put additional stress on the wheel studs. Moving the wheels out with spacers increases the leverage exerted on everything.
They look cool! Yup. Make the tires stick out past the fenders so they rub and remind you they are not stock. The rest has already been said, regarding stress and wear. Some think the wider stance is going to help, but if you work the vehicle to where an additional 1“ of width helps, then you are screwed already. Then the studs snap! Hahaha
They look cool.
They'd correct the offset on the wheels they're using. If you use correct hub-centric spacers you won't have any appreciable compared to stock.
That 200 is looking really, REALLY good. So tastefully done with solid aftermarket parts choice. I'd do the exact same build as you guys except I would do a rear locker, an onboard compressor and some "real" underbody bash plates. I LOVE my 100 series (98 LX)...it can and has gone just about everywhere. It was stock with a LSD rear and no ATRAC. It climbed everything in CO even at 7800lbs. The rear locker I added has rarely been used, but is great on slippery surfaces where I can just climb up with controlled throttle vs scratching and rutting the track.
Awesome job. Much better than the ram rebel build
Loved this vid. The Land Cruiser build was a genius idea for content. Something different than everyone else seems to do these days
We only have the land cruiser here in Australia and they are a beast! Honestly off-road they are amazing!! Puts everything to shame
Are they diesels there?
William Todd hi, yes we have both the diesel which is a fantastic engine 4.5lt v8 turbo and a v8 petrol or gasoline
The 4Runner might be a simple truck but it definitely doesn’t have a simple truck price
Haha true. Simple truck, high end materials.
to complete the look, you should have the headlight housings painted black on the inside like the regular TRD PRO models
That Land Cruiser looks amazing guys! Great video👍🏻
Fantastic fun! Reminds me of the TLC I drove for a year in Africa. I took a stock Euro/Russian, manual transmissioned, in-line 6, naturally aspirated, cloth seat, beater of a truck, and put a full OME suspension w/ front sway bar on it. Plus an ARB bumper from a totaled Hilux with Warn winch...had a local weakest build the ultimate roof rack...threw on some sand ladders (used all the time), 3 cans of fuel & 2 cans of water (5 gals each), and a lot of other must haves. We drove that truck everywhere and over everything. Rarely saw pavement. Some of the best memories of my life.
It seems that @tfltruck rarely uses ATRAC on the different Toyota's. When the 4runner had it's front wheels in the air they used crawl instead of just hitting ATRAC.
Jennifer Spencer too concerned about lockers 🙄
Jennifer Spencer they’ve been avoiding ATRAC for years lol.
Ryan Martinage they did it on cliffhanger 2.0 and the old gold mine hill. Don’t know why Toyota lets them use their vehicles
They are generally out to promote FCA and Jeep, they really don't want the true capabilities of a Toyota to be published on the web. If you notice on a head-to-head competition between a Wrangler and any Toyota product you will see that they don't even engage 4wd most of the time on the Toyota.
Ryan Martinage I 100% agree with that. They never mention Atrac or Mts or how to use them, or how they even work and how they differ from crawl control. They only use diff lock or crawl control. I believe it’s because they don’t know the difference, and how/when to use them alone or combined and when to turn each off according to differences in terrain or conditions.
Hey now, that 3.5L in the Tacoma can do a lot more than most give credit
Hey guys just wanted to stop by and show some love for the channel and keep up the Great work!
You should add off road tires to your 2004 VW Touareg and let it do the same trail.
nevoi comerciale Touareg vs Land Rover would be a great comparison video
Yeah ! They could have a contest who could drive further without lifting the hood!
There's no need for a Land Cruiser TRD Pro. It's a Land Cruiser, have all the best equipment included. TRD are equipment for normal Toyota cars. And Land Cruiser is a legendary name itself.
Legendary name. Not a legendary off road in the 200 series. Toyota sold out to the luxury side of the big $$$ buyers and have let go of the total off-road vehicle. The additions here have made the Land Cruiser what it should have been in the first place. It is only keeping up with the TRD 4Runner and not outperforming it. I really liked the previous models but they messed up on the current one. It is still used off-road a lot elsewhere in the world, partly because it is the best offered there. In the USA and Canada, there are several very good to even better options. In fact, Toyota doesn’t sell the Land Cruiser in Canada. Too much competition and the price equates to almost $100,000 Canadian. There are many many much better options out there. Spend extremely on a 4Runner and you still won’t hit $75,000 cad and have the best possible off-road vehicle out there. The “TFL” Pro version here is really nice.
Now, we need a head to head with the Touareg on A/S tires and this modified Land Cruiser. Same trail.
The 4Runner laughs at this track. It wasn't even challenged.
I ve only seen a TRD LC in my dream and now on your channel. GOOD JOB !
Well done series!! OME and Toyota are a match made in heaven. So glad you went that route instead of Fox. Nothing against Fox, just a nice change of pace.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: Really? What is the weak link with these? I've never heard anything but good things about OME.
That land cruiser is really nice.
Why does tfl refuse to use atrac? I have it in my runner and it’s crazy how capable it is. I would bet money that it’s way better them the land rovers traction control
Yes! Exactly! I just posted the same thing. I have seen several videos where they completely overlook ATRAC, when it is all they need. It’s as if they didn’t know it even exists.
Because crawl control is for people who have no offroad driving skills
Great video and comparison. But that air intake on the Land Cruiser....not so sure about that! Just looks out of place.
When they said they were going to wrap it I was like nooooo! Then I saw the results and I was pleasantly surprised. Then they hacked into the fender and I was like nooooo! Then I saw it and puked in my mouth. Would have looked great if they stopped one mod earlier. Seriously, looks like a dick painted on the Mona Lisa's forehead.
Almost every Land Cruiser in Aus, NZ or Africa has a raised intake on it. If you get the right one you can Ford water that’s over your bonnet and up the windscreen. Easy as. I had a LC 95 PRADO, older model Gc460, it went every where I took it, many more places than my old Surf’s(4runners) of which I’ve had 5, petrol and diesel
You should consider facelift headlights for the land cruiser
Yeah! Those headlights ages the Land Cruiser a lot.
Yeah, sure, rice it out..🙄🤮
@@donrichter3523 I think OP might be referring to the 2013-2015 OEM headlights.
Bruh, my '12 land cruiser is still comepletely fine today and its super capable too. I gotta say, it's an amazing bargain.
Sad thing is, a shift knob, minor lift,grill and some wheels is almost all you get in a TRD pro anything. So you guys have outdone yourselves.
Good investment on the Old Man Emu suspension parts.
Over rated garbage. Bilstien and EFS is where it's at.
@@madrx2 that's like your opinion man....
@@fj60driver I had one of their Colorado shocks break on me in about 5000kms of driving . It's my personal experience
@@madrx2 and I have seen Bilsteins leak on brand new Toyotas doesnt mean the products garbage just means once in a while you get a bad one
That’s a laugh! Bilstein?!? They ride like shit. You only like them because you are a cheap ass. While not the only way to go, the BP-51 setup is nicely done.
Onboard air compressor is the first thing you need.
Does the factory TRD Pro have one is the first question we ask?
The Fast Lane Truck I did buy the $100 knob to.
okigojuryu 1979 now that is funny, I want to watch you do it, in under an hour from 15 psi back to 35 psi. You made my day.
Metal tech sliders are gone??
It has no winch.
Since when is the 4runner the best off-roader that Toyota offers? A stock land cruiser is superior in everyway to the 4runner. More ground clearance, greater suspension travel, beefier parts etc etc.
Issac Lopez it didn’t make it because it had crappy highway tires
Not true!
Ground clearance: Land Cruiser 8.9in - 4Runner 9.6in
Approach angle: LC 32deg - 4R 33deg
Departure angle: LC 24deg - 4R 26deg
Breakover angle: LC 21deg - 4R 28deg
4Runner also has real locking diff
*rear locking diff (typo)
northbee15 rear locking diff and it’s smaller. It’s the best Toyota 4x4
electrikoptik I sure do like my 97 LC.
6:40 The MTS and Crawl Control are also on the TRD Off-road (Trail). More of an FYI.
@ihategooglespooks Hahaha my bad.
ihategooglespooks haha I have a trail with kdss and love it
@ihategooglespooks I agree about the trail and the kdss suspension. It is amazing. But not sure how in any world an awd system is better than a transfercase. Center locker is just making it 4wd like a transfercase not actually locking axles.
Where are the sliders?
Loved this series!!! Keep up the great work!
What, no deep water crossing? I mean that snorkel is just so damn cool I'm completely disappointed you didn't show us it's practical application... sarc/off.
Snorkels are not for water crossings (well they will help with that too) but mainly for getting cooler less dusty air into the engine for more power and less dirty air filters...hence they are called 'desert air intake'
Love it! Great video, guys! I’m counting down until I can give my 5th Gen T4R to my son and get me a LC!
Tommy, learn how to use A-Trac. You don't need to use the crawl control for the car to figure out where it's losing traction, A-Trac will do that without having to resort to speed control. It's so good that I rarely even activate the rear locker, because the locker will fight the terrain when you're turning.
Curious what a slightly lifted Sequoia with good tires would do. It has four wheel independent suspension. A 2WD, AWD, 4WD and 4LO transfer case. Its barely bigger than the Landcruiser. If you have an 08 to current version it accepts most of the current Tundra TRD parts like the skid plate, wheels, intake, shifter, etc. If you TRD'd the platinum model you get adjustable rear air bags and adjustable shocks.
Frikken massive. The LC is big enough. I think they would make a good overlanding rig though.
Why do you all never even acknowledge ATRAC? There are so many situations it would help in
ATRAC still has a jerky motion and stops and starts each tire. Losing momentum and stopping is the worst as it will get you stuck compared to proper 4 wheel drive that can just continue to crawl slowly. But it does give another option with all the tech goodies in different situations at least.
@@practicalguy973 um atrac is an addition to 4x4
@@offgridaction454 Only on a really 4x4 that locks all diffs and crawls with no hesitation. These new trucks don't do that. You can see in any video the computer kicking in and deciding and jerking tires, stopping a tire while others are turning etc... You stop any wheel and lose momentum and your stuck in extreme cases.
"high altitude air intake" is more stupid than "snorkel" I think..
The proper good quality snorkel actually add snorkl-ing ability on water crossing when doing bow wave technique, though once stationery it is still limited to vehicle wading depth capability.
Love all your vids guys! Here's a lesson on speaking Aussie though. The suspension is not pronounced old man "EMOO" it's pronounced old man "EEM-YOU"
Ha ha it's always funny listening to Americans try to speak Ozzy.
Yeah, emu is another word Americans can't pronounce properly.
@@nicholassmith7048 Like Zebra!
I've got a bone-stock low miles 07 FJ Cruiser - you guys are more than welcome to make it a TRD Pro FJ for me if you'd like? ; )
lol...
Two of my dream rigs!
looks like diff “lock” needs to be in quotes lol on the 4 runner
Nice job Roman...White one turned out real nice..looks great
07:23 The TRDPRO T4R come with Nitto G2 Terra Grapplers which are a very good tire not Duratrac. I know y’all are BFG paid homers now, but Come on guys.
Also, that 4.0 is one of the best engines ever produced by Toyota. It will go 500k on just general maintenance.
Uncle Elroy Yes, they are terra grapplers. my apologies. FYI BFG pays us nada.
Tomas Mica free tires is a form of payment yes?
Uncle Elroy - I agree with ya about the 4.0. The rest is apples for apples and otherwise irrelevant.
Leave them alone Elroy. I never understood sponsorships/receiving products u till I helped a buddy start his own channel and realized how damn expensive it gets. It is necessary for a channel like this to receive products if they actually want to push out content. It may not be "pure," but hell is it entertaining and the best compromise we can get.
I'll say that all of TFL's channels are quite superb in my opinion and that their 4Runner test (the Canadian version) was by far the most underrated video on the internet.
It ain’t like the V8 in the last generation 4Runner
Man. The Pro Tundra wheels looks good in the Land Cruiser. Can’t wait until you guys do TRD Pro Sequoia review.
Never fear! The Land Cruiser will be coming to the states! They actually have a patent out for a hybrid system for the body on frame platform which makes me think Toyota is committed to keeping the Land Cruiser stateside. As long as they keep building them, I'll keep buying them.
Love what you guys have done to the Land Cruiser!
I been following the build and I just couldn’t put my finger on what it was missing, until now... I think it needs a headlight upgrade (perhaps retrofit newer Land Cruiser lights on it) and the bumper/front needs the TRD skid plate or bumper a alternation to make it look a bit like the 4Runner’s TRD Pro bumper.
But overall loving what you guys have done with it so far.
Well done. You two make a good duo when you make videos together. 👍
I’m worried the next gen LC won’t have a V8 anymore. Gonna be a sad day
I've heard rumors the next get Tundra will be a turbo V6 with hybrid option.
It turned out awesome 👏🏻
Hey Tommy, those are not Goodyear duratracs on that trd 4 runner
Theres a reason why I own two 4runners. Because they work.
That snorkel is hideous
What is the ground clearance difference between the two?
Who cares? They’re too busy talking about badges and inconsequential crap like that... 🤷🙈
You did a great job building the TRD Pro Landcruiser. Looks very factory. Great job
Great job. Nicely done. 👌 did you rust protect the drilled hole for the air intake?
More landcruiser videos!!! I'm looking at 06 lx470 and might do same!!
I have a 99 LX470 great cars it’s been in the fam since 00 dead reliable
Toyota makes a damn good offroader whether its the Tacoma, 4R or Tundra but the Land Cruiser is the cream on top legendary and every model I've ever owned starting with the FJ40's never disappoint on reliability and capability. The 200 Series is expensive and for most of us more bells and whistles than we care for but it still lives up to the legendary name plate and used around the world. I love my 200 Series and I've owned Land Cruisers for 30 years. When the rest of the manufactures SUV's are being parted in the pull-a-part yards the Land Cruiser's are still roaming the trails.
2016 Quicksand color is the bomb!
At least you guys get a Land Cruiser!
Super cool video, you all are superb, fun video
I had doubts, honestly, if you could make the Land Cruiser look like it should have in the first place. Call me a skeptic, you would be kinda right.
I LIKE the Land Cruiser and even the “snorkel” (haha) looks good on the application. I liked the sliders and how they hid the framework of the vehicle. Not sure what happened, but I’m sure there is a story! The 4Runner was a very good vehicle for comparison. I’m with Tommy, it is old, but still looks great (black for me) and that 4.0 is maybe the most durable motor in the Toyota lineup today. The Land Cruiser did just fine, now, which was no surprise and between the two vehicles I actually prefer the Land Cruiser. This was a very big surprise to me.
You two did a very good video with the team! As usual. Thanks again!
Edit: I was reading through the comments and saw one guy state you filmed this video before you put the sliders on,,,,,,,,,, duhhhh! I’m guessing there is really no story at all, haha.
I want you guys to do real world max towing with the new half ton pickups. Preferably the f150s
Would have been neat to see a measuring tape placed on both cars tires giving us viewers the actual tire size. I really like the upgrades to the cruiser you made. I’ve been looking at used here in Calif.
Love the video!!! Toyota power :) but Wouldnt it be more equal to compare your TFL pro with the Sequoia TRD pro ?
Would you guys please stop saying that the 4runner and other part time 4x4 systems have a center diff. There isn't a differential in the transfer case therefore no center diff which means no center locker. Only full time 4WD and all wheel drive systems have a center diff and therefore need a center locker in order be a capable off road as a part time 4x4 system like the 4runner has.
I really love that Land Cruiser. Great job, I wanna see more LC content!!
Tommy, just wondering... why do you like the 4.0 v6 better than the 3.5 by? mentioned here 7:38.
Yeah considering the 4.0 is much older
Great video! It's nice to see the Land Cruiser out on the trails instead of in the shop (getting drilled for that ugly snorkel 😞)The 4Runner looked great too!
No other content like this channel
Love your videos watch them as soon as you guy upload them.
Not a Toyota fanboy. But I do respect there ability. Great video guys.
Good job guys, and the Land Cruiser looks and acts legit!
In the first obstacle the 4runner could have done that with Atrac and 4high.
It's always mystifying how the Landcruiser is so underestimated by yanks.
Seán O'Nilbud We tend to underestimate US$90,000 vehicles 😎 Which makes the $40k 4Runner an awesome value
To pricey for me, and dated design, also sits to low for my needs.
We don't get the same models as AUS and them. Not as good.
I have a 100 that I picked up for $10k and a 200 that I paid $30k. Yes 👍 the dude with to land cruisers in the driveway that paid less than my neighbors 2wd new sequoia!😂😂😂
My favorite comparison yet
You guys should do an off-road comparison between your white "do it yourself" 2008 Land Cruiser TFL Pro and my white "do it yourself" 2010 FJ Cruiser TRD Pro.
Great to see end product of Landcruiser TRD climbing the trail👍good way modifying 4WD, I did tell you guys you wouldn’t be disappointed with Old Man Emu shocks👍🇦🇺
Where do you guys even go to do Off-roading? Im new to Colorado
How about using Atrac on the 4Runner before immediately resorting to CRAWl?
This has been a very cool project and an original idea! Well done TFL.. great content keep it coming. Oh yeah and retro fit those headlights.
I would argue that the 4 runner is better than the land cruiser. The biggest reason is weight and size. If you upgrade those tires, the 4 runner would be unstoppable. I also prefer the smaller 6 cylinder engine as it’s more fuels efficient and likely reduces weight. The biggest advantage that the Land Cruiser has is it’s full lock diffs vs just a center lock. But then again, it kind of needs it with all that weight. Realistically your biggest limits with these rigs is ride height and tires.
Needs ARB lockers front and rear.
Please, how about a little love for the Sequoia, I have a 2016. Its awesome. Most of the same drivetrain of the Landruiser, half the price. V-8 hi/lo, locking center diffs, what's not to like!
Shawn Dickmann size for one
Nice trucks but the IRS is a let down.