Sainsmart Genmitsu 3018-MX3 Mini Cnc Build, Test & Review
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2019
- In this video I take a look at the Sainsmart Genmitsu 3018-mx3 mini cnc router designed for use with Mach3.
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Brilliant and very clear explainations. Not to mention the very nice glowing "On Air" little thing near the end, perfectly crafted. Lovely !
Well done !
this video is amazing, the way you shown all the basic parts of the cnc router.
Best review of this product I've seen yet! Thanks! You helped me make up my mind as to which one of these entry level machines to get.
This is the best tutorial/review I've ever seen on any cnc router. Thank you so much!
AWESOME video! I have the exact same machine, haven't yet broke it out to build and test it yet, but it's on the books for this year when work calms down. I'm a member of a Sainsmart Facebook group, and I am definitely going to share your video there!
Thank you , this is a brilliant video, well explained and in particular covered what is a very awkward and somewhat confusing software for the first time user on this mill, I would love to see this guy do more videos on Mach 3, very well explained. I have the exact same machine and have been holding off installing the software asI was looking for some nebie help, now found, and boy you made it look so easy to do!!, thank you for your efforts.
I so enjoy your style, so too the point and clear
Excellent video! Quick to the point and thorough. Highly recommended!
Beautifully explained. Thank you so much.
Great video, awesome detail and really helpful on my own build and first cuts!! Was helpful to see you also using easel and the different shades for different depths. A tutorial on how to use it with the MX3 would be of great value too!
Great video. Fantastic job of dressing all of the cabling.
That introduction/instructional was simply amazing... well done Sir... sub well earned.
Thank you, I can take stuff from this and use on my 6040
You are an amazing person for creating these videos. Thank you so much really helpful :)
Your videos are great you make it all look so easy.
Very good explained even it is not so simple for a beginner TANK you For this clip
Finally a mill with limit switches. A lot of the 3018 Chinese machines don't have these. Usually GRBL machines though not MACH3.
Thank you, so much. This video means a lot to me. Thank you so very much.
Pretty interesting cnc kit. Thanks for sharing!
What a soothing and clear video to watch. ^^
Great video. Is there a surface leveling feature? Did you need to tune in the accuracy with a micrometer dial gauge?
like the tip of turning the cable sleeves inside out to stop the ends fraying
Very informative video. Thanks.
Well-made and very useful thanks
professional video, thanks
thank you , best video so far about it i have a question about the bits you used your bits not what have come with the kit and also whats the maximum thickness of material can cut through
Well done and informative, thanks for sharing.
Cheers
THANKS for responding . I had already watched the rest of the video .
Watch the part about implementing the auto tool, it's after the mechanical build
I have already ordered a controller from Sainsmart. Hopefully it will be the same as yours. I have had a machine running Mach3 in the past.
What an amazing video, what type of aluminum and acrylic do you use in the video?
Good video ,thank you for sharing
Really good video thanks
So, I take it this is worth the extra $60 over the banggood 3018? Just the addition of limit switches and auto Z leveling seems great.
Seems to be very decent!
Have you tried other materials since? Will it cut carbon fiber?
Excellent!!!
How did you do the on air overlay in easel? I would always cut the rectangle shape
Very good 👍
This is how every review should look like!
A quick question: what's the 2 part glue you were using?
Thanks
Thanks. Mitre adhesive used in woodworking.
I like your OnAir display design, can the project be downloaded somewhere ?
There is no open source way to control this cnc? Great video
Hah ! You are skilled and make CNC operations look easy. I have a simpler 3018 and am wondering whether can get it going with Mach 3. Noted that you did some dll shifting from the supplied DVD...
Hi, Tom from LI, NY. Very nice review. All neat and no filler. I just received Genmitsu 3018 Pro now I have to see about upgrading it to the MX3 level before I have even read the manual ;-{ I wonder if Sainsmart will be offering an upgrade kit. The new software looks very appealing as does the new feature of being able to run the hand controller with the PC connected. Now if only they would come out with a version that is capable of running on the Raspberry Pi. Cheers.
Thank god I found this guy lol brilliant 😁👌👍
Hello, could you please tell what is the exact inner dimension in cm between the 2 vertical back side plates ?
Nice video bro
Can you tell me one thing?
Is this machine can engrave in copper about 2mm deep?
Brilliant
Bench mark of how to review a product
Great video. Have you ever performed any measurements of backlash on this machine?
My application is for milling PCBs and backlash has a direct impact on the track width accuracy.
No, but I would use a grbl based machine for PCB milling anyway, most USB mach3 controllers have a problem with height mapping / probing. I have a fix on my website but grbl is easier. There is also a problem with most 3018 machines where the z axis anti backlash spring pushes the spindle down rather than up, you can fix it by turning the spindle mount upside down.
Very good channel. I have the 3018 grbl metal frame and the 2.5w laser for a year, you can do many things with a little patience. Is the new plastic frame stable?
Mach3 is more professional, but the small off-line controller of the grbl model works very well, and avoids having to keep the PC running with the cutting machine. Hard to choose.
The composite board is similar to bakelite ( if your old enough to remember that). it's very solid. It apparently has the same thermal expansion characteristics as aluminium, so it makes a good combination. The frame is stiffer than the all aluminium 3018 that I have previously tested.
@@techydiy Thanks for the detailed answer.
When i finished the video, i wondered why the hell i am not subscribed, and had to remedy that. Very good video, straight to the point and also precise. Based on your description i opted to not buy it right now, seems like a very good machine but i need to find open-source software i could use with it, have no confirmations i will be able to run LinuxCNC. I guess if you feel up to the task, it would be a good addition.
Join the facebook group, we have some people on there using Linux so don't worry. Also there is open source software and in any event you could install virtual box, buy windows 10 for a dollar off eBay which is what I did and install that and never worry, if your into linux in a big way which most linux users are you'll understand. Alternatively partition your drive and run windows 10 on the partition direct, works perfectly from Bootcamp for me on OS X. It will run in the other emulators but i chose not to do it that way as I had a spare Mac mini kicking about from a couple of years ago and thought i would just build a new Win 10 machine and run it natively. OS X is still on the drive but so far I have only booted into OS X one time on that machine. I use my MBP to create and produce the Gcode and network it across to the Mac mini and then import the Gcode and work from there. Its a brilliant little machine and an incredible opening into the world of CNC
PLEASE HELP!!! I purchased this unit but the auto-tool zero sends the spindle upwards instead of to the touch plate (it is jogging correctly however). Haven't been able to make my first cut because it keeps plunging incorrectly..
Hello a great video, I wondered whether its possible to re machine the same place more than once to increase the depths can be reached when using the Miller?
Yes
Thanks so much brilliant news thankyou👍
Craftsman!!
Brilliant video thanks. I have bought one of these but I’m having a problem with it cutting through the material to specified thickness. It only cuts 1/3 or there abouts. How do I fix this?
1. Have you zeroed the z axis height on the surface of the material, before starting?
2. If you move the z axis 20mm or 1/2 inch with gcode, does it actually move that amount ?
If not then calibrate the z axis by going into the settings tab, axis calibration, set steps per unit (near the big red reset button), select z axis and follow the guidance. You can read the mach3 docs about this or there are videos on YT about Mach3 calibration
Awesome video! I wish the machine's sound wasn't muted all the way through; I'm trying to assess if this would be too loud or not for an apartment environment :) Thanks a lot anyways
Some people put them in a box for dust / noise reduction.
Great review! I just have one question (cnc newbie here) when you were milling out the larger block and had to change end mills does the program pause for the change out, or is it two seperate Gcode files?
Two separate files
Can you edit the Gcode to have an M0?
so nice
Beautiful tutorial! I have a problem: the work surface is lower on the right side of the CNC (same model):
Do you have any advice on how to fix it?
Check if it's square vertically. Shim it. If you can find a wide flat bottom clearing bit that will fit you can level the spoil board.
@@techydiy ty
I am thinking about buying this CNC router too. Can I use HPL board on this CNC machine?
Would you recommend this version, the 3018 prover or the 500w upgraded banggood model 3018 all said and done?
Prover 3018 or prover 4030 xl for most people.
Thank you for the video friend! I was wondering if this machine can actually handle true 3d milling? Like cutting on bevels and curves
Yes, its a 3 axis machine.
@@techydiy thank you again! I wanted to cover all of my bases before ordering one haha
How long take the cutting time that 18cm woo board?
Great video, and well explained. I was wondering if there is a way to improve(make bigger) the working area?. Longer Y or X axis.
Can you give some input on that. Thanks again for your clarifying video.
You could extend the lead screws and rails etc. and the side profiles. The other option is to convert the fixed gantry into a moving gantry which will increase y axis. In all honesty though your better off just getting the right size in the first place. Lookup 3040 or 6040 cnc machines or mpcnc.
Thanks for your feedback. I'm not using Mach3. I'm sure I have a calibration issue. How does one calibrate the Z axis when using Easel or Nightly build? Does one have to calibrate all three axes? What are the values to enter in the calibration file?
What machine are you using ?
If you have a grbl based 3018 machine then you should only use easel to generate gcode, not setup the machine. Watch my latest video 3018-prover part 2 for axis calibration of a 3018 machine.
it's ok this kind of cnc for brass?
Thanks!!!!! You are an inspiration!!! I have been looking and searching and this unit might be just what I want/need. Any issues learning the software? Have you considered a laser attachment? 🇨🇦
I haven't tried the laser.
@@techydiy OK. Any issues learning the software?
No.
So ,you gonna buy mach 3 for this small cnc??? Is it Worth?
Thank you for making this video. I didn't realize that the assembly of the machine was so involved, but all of the details you showed for the process make it seem doable. I am thinking about buying one of these machines to make nameplates/engravings for wood gifts for Christmas. What I also want to do is make some large scrabble letters out of wood, maybe 3x3in, and it looks like this machine is very capable of doing that. Would you still recommend this machine after owning it for 2+ years? I know one guy stepped up to an X-Carve pretty soon after buying the Genmitsu. Thanks.
Check out some of my other videos. I wouldn't recommend this one ( with mach3), instead I would go for the 3018 Prover (with Grbl), the 3020 Pro Max (grbl) or the 4030 Prover XL
the bearings are they 8 mm , 10 or 12?
Thank you. Very valuable advice. I have a 3018 CNC. I am laser engraving. But I can't do a maximum area. They say 300mm and 180mm are possible. Can you help? Thank you very much.
Not all 3018 machines have a 300 x 180 mm cutting area.
@@techydiy Thank you very much. Appreciated. :-)
Brilliant Setup however one minor correction regarding safety.
I would recommend attaching the cutting bit before power On.
We need to establish some trust over time with our machines before we attempt daring stunts.
A new machine might have unknown errors especially freak power On.
i did like a video from you on PCB milling with the mx3.
i understand your reality and will appreciate your input
sincerely
ejike
Yep fair point. I put some notes about height mapping with the mx3 on my website. In general your better off using a grbl based machine for PCB milling though. The software is much better for that application.
Thank you , its possible to work with stainless steel plate but as marker not cutting with 1 mm deep
Probably, I haven't tried it but whether its practical and useful is a different matter.
i like acrylic project.
how much rpm and feed can give for wood craving(3018 MX3).I gave 7000 rpm and 150 feed mm/min and plunge rate 75.
It can cut through aluminum? Can it cut metal jewelry?
Hello. I have installed Mach 3 and the files from the cd. My computer says the cnc is connected, but when I use the jog, nothing happens. The arrows on the laptop does not jog the machine either. Any suggestions as to what I did wrong?.
Reset first
how do you adjust the limit switches on the Genmitsu 3018-PROVer my will stop and have to reset my off line controller.and spindle will not touch the wood. can not get candle to work the machine on my pc
If the spindle won't reach the wood then either drop the spindle motor down in the holder or raise the height of the workpiece. Installing a spoil board should raise the height enough.
What activator and adhesive do you use on the painters tape when adhering your job? What is the purpose of the activator?
It's Mitre adhesive, used in woodworking. The activator sets off the adhesive almost instantly.
www.toolstation.com/mitrebond-aerosol-kit/p53502
In US terms, it's just generic superglue (AC) and a kicker (Zapkick). The activator sets the glue instantly on contact. You can use 90% isopropyl alcohol instead with similar effects. If you want a cheap source of superglue, try the 10 pack of tubes from Harbor Freight. I buy those up and empty them into a larger PTFE squeeze bottle to have an affordable supply of simple CA adhesive.
@@woozleboy marking for future
How does this compare to the one you reviewed in February? Mach 3 is $175, a bit steep for running a hobby machine like this. Is it limited to 500 lines total for the trial, or 500 lines per project on the trial?
It's more robust. It's not quite as big. You could look at the pro version which uses grbl based software instead of Mach3.
cute
that's cool .
I saw that you have tried both, this one and 3018 3 Axis Mini DIY CNC Router . Which one would you recommend?
If you already have mach3 this one , otherwise I would look at 3018 pro. Also for PCB milling the 3018 pro or eleksmill.
Best Video Ever! Was Going To Bed, Clicked And Watched The Whole Thing!
Great video! Does the machine have the same effective milling area as the 3018 PROVer (260 x 155 x 35 mm)? Because the table is the same size on both of them (300 x 180 mm), right? :)
I believe so
Since this is a moving bed machine, and the spindle assembly is mounted flexibly on the side rails, could you hypothetically get hold of some longer lengths of profile/threaded bar/etc. for the side rails and use a longer bed to make it a 30XX?
Yes
Many thanks. Do you think the CNC machine would make a fair job of cutting 2mm vegetable tanned leather please?
I have never tried it.
@@techydiy Thank you. I’m just about to but a 3018 but I’m torn between a Sainsmart, Yora and one sold by HamdMarket with a 15w laser.
Itried to use the ayto tool zero but get message "tool not implemented" What do I need to do?
Great video very informative and detailed thank you, l just have one question. I am wanting to buy a cnc like this, l am a total rookie to cnc Machines but am very much want to learn, l have been looking around a lot at different machines but with so many on the market l am having a little trouble finding the right one for what l want it to do. my question is would this machine be suitable for milling materials such as jade and marble, and if not could you recommend me to a site that sells the machine l am looking for? I would prefer to buy something more on the cheaper side thinking that l am just a beginner allowing me to be able to make some mistakes along the way, but if there isn’t any for a cheaper price tag l would be happy to spend the bit extra to make sure l got the machine suitable for the job, l have found a company called Sstyle that makes a cnc designed specifically for jade and other minerals but it coasts about $2800 :/
Sorry but I don't know if it can mill jade or marble
Hi there. Your video is very nice and clean. I love it! Learned a lot!! Can you please tell me the diameter of the rods for linear bearings? Is that 10mm? On my machine they are 8mm and prone to bending a bit which makes the cnc not rigid enough for aluminium cutting
They are 10mm diameter.
techydiy thanks mate
Do I need to swap out the controller for a GRBL equivalent to run GRBL code or is there alternative firmware I can upload to the stock board to do this?
(Think I ordered the wrong 3018 machine from Sainsmart - the MX3 as opposed to the PROver GRBL version)
You need to swap the controller. They sell the prover controller.
@@techydiy Cheers, will do. What do you think of their end mills?
The blue nano ones seem to work well
Too many thanks, this video help me. But you missed how to calibrat the axis
Could you please upload a detailed 3d carving video in 3018 MX3
thank you for your help let me phrase this a little differently when I use the probe to set my height I set the probe right on the metal aluminum table and when I go to Carver peace it still misses buy a good quarter inch the bit is tight and there's a lot of room to the stop sensor
I have one to test but I haven't had a chance to play with it yet.
If you set the bit height manually and zero it manually, does it work then? If it does then I am guessing the auto probe script has a problem or the height specified in the script is wrong. Like I said I haven't had a chance to build it yet, so I don't know much about it yet.
@@techydiy does the same
If you push the bit upwards does it move / is there play in the z axis ?
Have you checked that when you move the X, y, z axis they move the correct amount ?. Not sure what else to suggest at this point.
@@techydiy I change the probe height from 14 to 21.19 now it will cut
where we can get the order ?
can i make silver necklace with this machine ?
What kind of lubrication should be used on the screws and rails? Any other places that should be lubricated?
I use lithium grease
techydiy Thank you!
what an excellent video. thanks alot!
Is this an original Sainsmart CNC router?
mabe you can help got all the other issues fixed now if i use easle or send gcode to candel i put a drill hole in center of material it will drill off x is 9.525mm off and y is 12.700mm off from center of material. thank you
Make sure that you set inches or mm as required in easel.
Check that the machine moves each axis accurately e.g. move x 100 and measure it, move y 100 and measure it.
Make sure you are zeroing the axis at the actual point you want to be the origin.
Where do you get the files to cut this stuff out
need some help. when i load the g code into mach3 the sim displays either really small or really large and sometimes even not the whole project. I had the project set for 75 mm x 75 mm and the engraving is definitely not that small. if the g code runs its microscopic or ignores the work material zero and goes to the work surface zero. followed the instructions pretty well but found that his soft limits were a little off for me but thats most likely machine to machine.
Same here did you solve the issue?
@@chrisdaupert8202 so it came down to the used measurements. the mill was still set to standard and not metric. once that was metric across the board everything worked fine until my antivirus just messed up the software and ruined 4 hours of milling alluminium.