How F1 Brakes Stop from 200mph to 0 in 4 Seconds | F1 Engineering
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
- I've managed to get hold of some F1 brakes and I'm going to explain exactly how they work.
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These F1 brakes are absolutely incredible they stop an F1 car from 200 miles an hour down to zero in less than four seconds and due to the deceleration can cause a driver's helmet to weigh over 50kg under braking.
I'm Scott Mansell from Driver61 where we train racing drivers to fulfil their driving potential. I'm going to jump in and explain what each of these pieces actually does in the braking system as a whole, before going through them in a bit more detail.
The braking systems run through the pedal, master cylinder, brake pipe, calliper, brake pads and finally through the wheel and tyre.
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I’ve never seen someone explain f1-brakes that well. High quality content. Thank you very much.
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@@johnsmith1474 there’s always some dickhead waiting to piss in a puddle on these comments. Well done, today it’s you.
there is a lot of misinformation included though. For example it is clearly wrong and physically implausible that the breaking fluid does not compress
@@Fruitysfaction it doesn't as it is the purpose of hydraulic fluid to not compress. If there's no air or contamination of the fluid and the brake lines are sound and braided to make them unable to expand the brake pedal should feel like you're pushing the pad directly against the disk. Brake fluid has been developed over years to have this exact property.
"I'll be working through an entire F1 car" ... *Spits out drink* SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY :)
Right? Eff yeah I'll click that bell mate.
That got my sub too. Lol
Haha thought the same😂😂
**SHUT UP AND TAKE MY SUB 😂
That got me subbed
From a video editing perspective, please leave b-roll, the interesting images and video clips, on screen 2-3 times longer than you currently have. Some are very detailed and take time to register, and are very interesting and accompanied with your narration, there's no need to watch you narrate, though you're a cool dude! A good gauge for time sometimes is, if there's text to read, that it's on screen long enough to read 2-3 times. Thanks for another fascinating video!
Armin K this comment needs to be seen
Agreed. We could ⏸ and look, but then we waste time watching him talk.
I was going to post the same thing!
couldn't have said it better myself. had to pause the video all the time.
that's why there is "pause" button...
F1 driver are not humans, they can lift me with their necks🥵.
its lateral g force, not normal... so yeah.
@@dedasdude they can lift him sideways
@@dedasdude they do train with 20kg weight with their neck
The duration of the high levels of G loads is what really matters, those peak G forces are seen only for a short time like maybe on turns or worse when coming to a sudden stop from hitting a wall (where the G load is extremely high but lasts for a split second). If they were to sustain the same peak loads for the whole race, it won't be likely for any human to come out of that in decent shape assuming they don't go unconscious.
@@ali902107364285418 i know, still crazy 3 or 4 G for a second, every single corner during 2 hours, not for me 🥵
I just love the ingenuity of F1. The science, creativity, strategy everything about every little is analyzed and critiqued. Just amazing
All garnered and improved over the decades.
The grey area, rule bending engineering is clever as fu k
Just imagine if we invent the right materials for all these components to work more efficiently. But It'll also get boring.
A big part of braking so „fast“ are the aerodynamics, pressing the car to ground therefore increasing the pressure possible to break and of course the insane grip of slick tires, so it’s not all down to some magical brakes, I find it more wow that they can last so long
SimRaceHQ, you’re not wrong in pointing this out. But you do still have to realize that the brakes still need to transfer all of that kinetic energy into heat and do it quickly which is amazing. Keep in mind 200mph to zero doesn’t take twice the energy as 100mph to zero, it takes 4 times the energy.
Matt H right, and there brakes aren't braking little Honda Civic wheels. The rotating mass of the massive F1 wheel/tire sets is... MASSIVE!
@@JohannGambolputty22 Well those brakes are braking a very light F1 car (even though almost 2x the weight at 100mph). It takes exactly the same energy dissipation to brake 2.4 tons car from 100mph to 0 as to brake 600kg F1 car (without downforce) from 200mph to 0 and all that during the same time interval (regular car brakes from 100mph to 0 in roughly 4s).
Pera Kojot, I understand it’s not about total energy. Physics doesn’t care if you’re trying to brake a 600kg car or a 600kg ice cream truck. The total amount of heat energy created will always be the same (most things considered) Of course there’s more that goes into braking specifically downforce, cooling and especially tires and track conditions. It doesn’t make the carbon ceramic fiber identical in ability per braking foot as a steel brake rotor on a family sedan. Braking from 200mph to 4 seconds is exciting and impressive to watch regardless. My apologies if I made it seem like heat diffusion was the only factor at play but the reason the stopping time are less are definitely assisted with the carbon brakes ability to still function at such high heat levels over a short amount of time versus steel rotors. Furthermore, and very importantly, the vehicles ability to do it over and over on a track is a lot different then a single panic stop on a family car.
@@JohannGambolputty22 There are 3 things that differ high performance brakes (i.e. F1, supercar, etc) and regular car brakes. 2 of those have impact of stopping distance/time, one doesn't. Size of breaking disk/pads is one, number of pistons in a caliper is two and material and construction of braking disk and pads is 3.
Material and construction of braking disk and pads doesn't play a role with the stopping distance, i.e. non-ventilated steel disk with regular high quality pads will have almost the same stopping power as carbon disk with ceramic pads (difference probably negligible).
With respect to first two things, any kind of truck will essentially have more powerful brakes than an F1 car.
Ventilated steel or carbon disks and ceramic pads help brakes retain their performance much longer under big load.
Regular steel disks and pads are perfectly capable of one or two emergency brakings even from 200mph.
And by far the most dominant reason why F1 car can brake so quickly is downforce.
Second reason are sticky tyres. I could say that these two play a role of 90%. Everything else related to the brakes is only 10%.
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Thank you, Nelson Piquet, for allowing drivers to change the brake bias inside the car. One of the best F1 engineers in history! He also created the tire heaters, fast pitstop, and the banned actice suspension. Not to mention a DRS system in 1976.
So awesome! I was a mechanic for 20 years and recently was trying to explain Brakes to my son, who loves F1 like me, and needed to spend almost a thousand dollars getting his own brakes fixes while away at College. I just sent this to him and now he will really be able to understand! Thank you!
That bad eh, F1 teams selling parts on the Internet just to keep afloat
Why bad? If collectors are buying that's not bad
@@LorenzoClara97 its a joke...
So many things are sold after a rule change, the teams manufacture many parts and once there is a rule change those old secrets no longer matter. 👍
poor Williams...
Probley 10years old anyways
The girth of the pads and rotor are absolutely astonishing even when compared to the huge brakes on many hi performance passenger cars and the F1 car weights significantly less. This definitely puts physics into perspective! I would love to see a detailed breakdown of current F1 brakes. The 2 second flash was enough to get my jaw to drop but I would love to see the hubless/bell less system in detail. Cool content! Keep it coming!!!
This was a real good video, whoever let you play about with F1 brakes did us all a favour. Its quite amazing to see it in perspective, a tiny amount of super lightweight carbon and a few bolts managing repeated braking with unbelievably powerful forces throughout a race without issue.
I just randomly clicked on this from my recommended and it turned out to be the most interesting and easy to understand video that I have watched this year. Subscribed!.
"I'll be working through an entire F1 car" - Okay i subbed.
He gonna put it together next?
Checking his chanel every day...
same :)
Well done. Beautifully described. I never thought a discussion about car brakes could be so elegant.
This is really good. I've done some racing in my 71 years, but never with cars as sophisticated as these are. I've always enjoyed doing my own mechanical work, too, but only on much simpler machines than these. Thanks so much for your excellent master classes.
Fantastic! Really love seeing how this stuff works at an F1 level
very interesting video to watch, looking forward for more technical videos like this
Absolutely love the videos, the pacing, the nation style and the intercut b roll and photos! Can't wait for more!
This was incredibly interesting. I really enjoyed all the pieces that you edited throughout.
Learned a lot I didn't know. Thanks for the great content yet again.
Awesome information....... Keep them coming, not as though we've got much on these days.
Really a well done explanation about the basic of braking science.
Congratulations, I've appreciated this video quite much 😁
Love your content! Glad to know more about F1 during this time
this is so mediocre. i can go from 200-0 with just a concrete wall
Marco Chimanlal 🤣🤣👌
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Did it with an electricity pole....
I once went 70(ish) to a flat zero with a ditch. Does that count?
Once....
Brake temperatures greater than 100 C; well it's a true statement but I think you could have stated a temperature a tad warmer than that :).
anydaynow look in the bottom right when he says that :)
Wow that's boiling hot! Sheesh
@@liamkof8265 Yep that was added after my comment :)
Its 1000C not 100C. A bit of different
Yes, in three minutes,you could have a delicious egg
I've always been curious about the mechanic systems of F1 cars and was never able to get great information like this. Amazing technology very well explained in this video.
That was unexpectedly thorough, fascinating and actually easy to understand. Good job man
Wow! You've outdone yourself Scott, this is mega.
I would genuinely give all my savings right now to have an F1 rotor and caliper to study.
The pinnacle of our hobby.
[edit] In the video a clip is shown of the manufacture of road car "carbon ceramic" rotors, but am I mistaken that F1 components are true composite, as in a layered matrix of cloth with a hugely complex process including post-machining rather than the inferior production-car powdered resin method?
Wow, thanks very much.
5thgearouttahere yes you are correct and it’s very expensive method too. And sadly it’s not worth even putting on a road car because it deteriorated faster and requires immense heat to work and the biggest down side is that their friction coefficient would be greater than any road tyre. Which is sad lol. I mean there are ways todo it but sadly. Currently It’s only truly worth doing on race cars.
@@cecilracing53 Brembo do have a retail version that is likely designed for GT3-class customer racing etc.
My hope is to see it on a pro touring build or similar.
Well no one wants your 2 dollars but still that's pathetic.
Why not try and get laid or buy an actual car? No you'd rather have this rotor to study. Lame bro very lame.
@@frankburdodrums8984 I guess some people love engineering more than others. What excites you or I, may bore others to death. They are not any 'lamer' than you or I.. just different. No need to be so rude to the dude.
Great content as always...TY!
The different size pistons is really interesting, thanks for sharing!
Mate, this is a masterpiece. Many thanks from Brazil. Looking forward to the next ones.
hey scott. can u do an Q&A maybe?
there are so many question in my head i wanna ask.
as an example: how a driver notice when the spoiler stays too much in the wind?
greetz from germany
Are you asking about downforce? Of course every driver wants to balance the car for their driving style....so if you are getting understeer you increase front wing etc....but there is more to it....suspension settings. 👍
Great content, thanks !
Questions: What type of brake fluid is used in F1? Is there one type all teams use or does everybody going own ways ?
Hydraulic oil^^
These things are actually art to me. They are so well and beautiful build.
Just amazing. Great presentation. Detailed and backed with real pictures... Subscribed immediately
This video will give me so many bragging opportunities!
Noice I need to instill F1 brake in my Civic, because VTEC is too powerful.
This is super knowledge out across in simple manner. Thanks so much for your videos...SUBSCRIBED!
this is not just a fantastic explanation on F1 brakes, but in all brakes in general
You mentioned CFRC, and then caught more of my attention. Also known as carbon-carbon, using graphite or graphene allotropes as a polymer for carbon... (34 year aerospace engineer). F1 recent caught my attention. Love the engineering details here. Subscribed.
Space shuttle brakes.
2nd, btw thankyou for doing videos during this harsh time..! And hopefully everybody reading this is staying safe, healthy, and happy! Have a good day everyone!
Worth of subscription man really appreciate it. It's sad people are more into awkward stuff rather than hard to find glimpse of workpiece and knowledge. Really appreciate it man, all the best wishes. 👍🏎️
That graduated piston size is a cool detail. I never even considered they would be like that. Makes perfect sense now. Thanks.
Fun fact, carbon-carbon is what was found on the leading edge of the wings and the nose of the space shuttle!
That composite was only for aerodynamics and thermal loads. It was about as strong as a piece of porcelain.
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Me: Interesting
Appreciate the in-depth explanation. Keep it up 👍
Definitely fascinating. I'm looking forward to viewing your entire series on the car.
Which part of an F1 car would you like explained?
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11:11 that looks crazy. Why is the inside of the wheel barrel stippled like that?
Temperature managment. The Pirelli tyres have a pretty narrow temperature window where they work properly. So teams started to use the rims as heat sinks to keep the typre temperatures better under control.
@@shi01 seriously amazing
It increases surface area to aid cooling
Awesome video as always! keep up the great work!
Very nice video. I love F1 and knew a lot of the stuff you said but I was abled to take much more new information. I can see your effort. Thumb up👍🏼
Carbon carbon brakes baby. can’t use them in gt because they’re too good
Fantastic video. Didn’t think I’d actually watch a whole video about how brakes work, but here I am 11.5 minutes later a whole lot wiser than I was.
thats a great video and your explanation is awesome you are trying to explain all mechanisms thats great. year ago i saw your video f1 gearbox thats great and been waiting for nxt video and here it is, any where i just saw animations but your showing us in reality thats great. very much thankfull to you for sharing this great knowledgable content
Thank you for the explainion! Love the content and video quality!
series should be called "how to nick a car from work, one part at a time".
Johnny Cash beat him to it.
7:37 i thought he was going to say asbestos for a second
Absolutely love the content you're providing us with, can't wait for all the others F1 part !
Maybe work a little bit on the fluidity of your speech, though with all the technical data I understand why you're struggling a bit to keep your voice calm and fluid.
Cheers!
Love the way you ask for subscribers. Alot better than other videos in your face about it. I for one subed for it also due to interest on the topic. Keep it up good content!
100c that was funny 😄
When he said 100°C I laughed so hard 🤣
He meant 540° Celsius as the 1000° Degrees Fahrenheit appeared. I'm guessing that would almost melt aluminum.
Holy cow. To be able to write the script for this and keep it all in order was a feet of ginormous proportions. Great job is too tame a compliment. all the best neal in Florida waiting for a hurricane
My favorite channel by FAR! Keep on the good work!
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ME: "Bleeding nipple"'😂
Just add WD40 on disc to improve stopping distance.
Excellent vid - looking forward to seeing more F1 info
Just watched a few of your vids and now subscribed. Very interesting!
How hazardous is the carbon brake dust , you see some when the pit crew are doing a wheel change .
That can not be good for your lungs
dno but carbon isnt much of a problem in ur lungs
@@Andreabay90 Something tells me you're not a pulmonologist.
Oh look! No holes drilled in the surface of the rotor!
Its not necessary for carbon brakes but for steel brakes having holes in the disc does improve efficiency.
@@AGD_27 How does removing rotor surface improve efficiency? Prove it!
Meanwhile I'll prove to you why it's just for show and why I cringe when I see a sports car with drilled rotors: czcams.com/video/78wbht355R8/video.html
Sk1ds The holes are sometimes used to clean the rotor and pads. This is not necessary on a racetrack because there is less dirt/grime on the road.
@@juneyz7264 Not the drilled ones. The slotted rotors might clean the pads and prevent glazing. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=opensiuc.lib.siu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1034%26context%3Dauto_pres&ved=2ahUKEwjI9qvt0eLoAhWDCewKHYDVAssQFjAKegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1UCzpMuVyuwlRpplTkdI5W&cshid=1586686066914
@@Sk1ds87 The video you sent me literally says how it could. It's a bit out dated now but it's not just some random idea a guy came up with and used for no reason.
Had a hard week and this was just what I needed after this day to make it a bit better . Formula video + listening to the music I like (Delta Parole, Metallica and other) make me feel the speed and excitement!
So many things I didn't know. Thanks for the explanation. Very interesting!
What car is this brake system from?
A 99' civic
F1
@@lalmuanzuala2292 so many F1 cars...
Braking failure would really suck on an F1 car.
@statorworks 345 woah that was crazy! That's a pucker up moment right there! Thanks for sharing that link
Your video is incredible! My first language is not English, so for me is quit hard to understand technical names, but you explained so well I am surprise I understand how a F1 brake works. Thank you so much!
Cant wait to see the rest of the breakdown videos! I love it!!
8:33 you mean ...up to and over 1000 oC
How about we put those brakes in a normal car, see what happens
Potato very bad things would happen lol
immediate lockup lol, by far the biggest difference between f1 and normal cars (and pretty much any other class of motorsport) is the grip
Great job buddy! All the best in making your videos.
So informational. Thank you for this video!
8:30 We all know you meant to say "one thousand degrees Celsius" and you were aided by type on the bottom, but this is something that should have been rectified end re-edited before it went in the air. Just saying. Great video, nevertheless.
Really nice and really good explain. Thank you for share your knowledge. I will keep waitting a new technical video :)
Very well explained! Earned the sub! 🤘🏻
Fantastic video, well researched and taught me so much, thank you
Great video and wonderful series of videos! One correction: racing brake lines do not use rubber linings. The reason is, a rubber lining allows too much expansion/flex in the line, resulting in a soft pedal and unpredictable modulation point. Racing brake lines use a Teflon liner which does a great job at limiting the amount of expansion/flex under severe pressure, resulting in a very clean and predictable modulation point.
Learnt something new today, did not know about the different piston sizes. Thanks Scott :-)
Adjusting brake bias on the fly mind blown 🤯 make perfect sense just never knew it was a thing
I always wondered how changing braking balance worked mechanically, thanks for the upload.
I'm so surprised it's two cylinders. I would have guessed one and a proportioning valve.
good video, i really enjoyed the part about the brakes in which ill go into a bit more detail a little bit later on
I think most of us know how brakes work, however there were a lot of really cool tidbits of info in this vid that I wasn't expecting! Thanks!
What an amazing explanation, thank you so much!
Sir I would like to thanks you for sharing this kind of very important concepts for us. Well done, great job
Motorsport has had some good articles about the rotors and how teams have pushed development in the cooling holes and the quantity of them
First time i actually sub and ring the bell. Looking forward to the next episodes, this is great stuff
This isn't telling me more than I could infer knowing how to work on road cars, But it was very in depth and informative from an objective standpoint. thumbed up
Wow
Great video
Looking forward for the rest of the series
Amazing explanation. Very interesting. Thank you
Amazing content.👍 Especially this year.
Thanks. 👏
Good stuff man. Looking forward to see more
Invaluable content, keep it going!