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#antidepressants
The whole model of pathologizing sadness, grief, anxiety, loneliness, etc., all Human responses to life, IS the problem. There is no chemical imbalance and no pill for the spiritual condition of man which must be addressed from the inside.
💯💯💯💯💯🎯🏆💗😔 profit profit bill bill pill bills pills profits ... no shame😢
Totally agree but society isn’t as supportive as it once was God help us all
100% agree!!
Hmmm....and manipulation of people m
Very well said! Thank you!
I was suicidal after starting each “trial “ of antidepressants.
poor you. I hope you are feeling better today.
Sorry to hear that.
They really shouldnt chop and change pills or just trial one thing after another. The interactions between these things in one's system cant be easy on it.
Hang in there. Call on God to help you through each day or moment by moment when your brian feels functioning.
Disease-like Labeling is adolescent usurpation! @@trulyso734
"Mass shooters are often on antidepressants, yet this is rarely reported in the media" - Niagara Falls Reporter, 2012
Yea fucc ssris. They are non sense.
Truly, the last place someone should go to attend to problems from psychotropics is a psychiatric hospital. Thank you for your courage in sharing.
So so so true. It’s what they always do. I had a bad reaction and my heart went nuts and I was rushed to the hospital twice!! No more. I got off immediately. It’s so sad.
They don't Care once it's not on there door, especially in Dublin
Thank you Dr Joel I'm learning a lot about these horrible medications I'm on Valium for anxiety and want to get off it now
This was so incredibly tragic and preventable. Thank you for sharing your story, Naomi. It will help save lives. Everyone needs to be on the lookout for psychiatric drug-induced adverse effects. These are not harmless candies, as our medical system hands them out without proper informed consent. They have real dangers and severe consequences for many. Wishing you peace.
Its unbelievable. I dont take them but lie to the doctor that I do. I am in brutal protracted withdrawl. I am severely suicidal and feel agony severely evey single day at all times. I was on these drugs for 9 years. The doctor checks in on me and out of desperation I tell him how horrible I am and each time, he ups my dosages. Bastards. He has me on three pills, but thankfully I do not take them. I am so bad, worse than I ever was before I begun meds.
No, something needs to seriously change how these drugs are prescribed. We are constantly lied to by our prescribers. They need to be locked up in prison for this shat!
I attempted when I was never like this prior to meds and not now since I've been off. Now I'm incredibly disabled from the attempt and so what? No justice for me? I just lay here in bed forgotten and destroyed!? It's bs!
@@ShawnRKAFind online support groups.
@@ShawnRKA The prescribers aren't lying; they just don't know any better. They themselves are misinformed - by their schooling, drug companies, medical journals.
@kellyherrin oh right. Then that makes it okay. Oh well, they don't know any better, might as well suck it up because drs have no clue what they are doing 🤡
I was given citalopram during a marriage breakdown and being estranged from by broader family and a crushing job - it completely crushed all emotion a total numbing and all I could think about was suicide - I wrote a note I cannot remember writing and drove my car to a disused area with a wall at the end of a long road - the plan - drink the alcohol I had bought and drive into the wall - because I don't drink much and I was exhausted I fell asleep after drinking only a couple of cans and then got off the drug and my emotions came back and the suicidal thoughts stopped.
Thank God friend I’ve been there and it’s a rough ride for sure God bless
Hi futures; Bravo. Your instincts were correct; but what a wild episode for you to go through. These meds are insanely powerful and everyone will have their individual reaction. When I was a teenager our own doctor had taken meds and my Dad found out that the doctor assaulted his wife; she locked him out and the story got worse from there. This was in the sixties and there were other stories like this; even the professionals in our neighborhood just when these new meds came out; they had crises and I think many people got interested in the idea that a little pill might make their lives better; all at once we heard of stories like this; altogether unusual for that day and since then there are still people having adverse reaction; in 2010 my late b.f. had a terrible time when his doc prescribed two anti depressants that were not meant to be taken together. Nice doc but anyone can make a mistake; there is a real need for vigilance and patients and families should read up on the literature and be on the alert for anything that is not normal and have a back up plan. I helped my pal when he was going through a horrific adverse reactions; ultra rapid cycling which began at sundown and went on all night over many days; his doc and social worker did not return my calls for help; had I known what would be in store I would have had a back up plan with friends etcetera; as it was he and I were alone in the crisis; finally he was suicidal; went to the railway tracks and that was when I called the police who were really really good with him yet all they could do was take him back to the hospital where a Lithium shot brought him down; nevertheless they put him in a coma; I could never understand this; he was not the same after. All I can say is everyone be vigilant; have a back up plan in case something goes on; read up on the literature.
I am happy for you. I learned the hard way. Those drugs,All of them, will destroy you, if not physically,then mentally. Your soul will be destroyed.
I’m so proud of Naomi and her strength to share Johns story. Everyone needs to know the dangerous possible outcomes of these medications.
Neurotoxic drugs!
Me and my best friend took Wellbutrin to help stop smoking. Neither of us suffered from mental illness or depression. After a few doses both of us were constantly thinking of suicide and severely depressed. Dangerous drug .😳(These were separate experiences that we shared after the fact )
Hope you are ok now!
Me too ! Wellbutrin was awful. It kept me thinking about ending my life. The worse I have taken
I cold turkeyed 20mg of lexapro reinstated multiple times went on klonopin ativan trazadone gabapentin had akathisia insomnia parastesia head on fire pacing 15 hours non stop a day 2 hours of sleep a night for over a year. Dp dr panic attacks all kinds of crazy stuff i basically lost my mind but God healed me over time. It was incredible God led me towards healing every doctor i went to all they wanted to do was put me on more pills. God led me to the right path. All praise to the most high.
The pacing omg the pacing.
@@allencollins6031how much relief does the pacing provide, or is it hardly any and it's just a compulsion?
Lexapro made me suicidal after only a few weeks. My regular dr told me to flush them Immediately!
Lack of sleep is so debilitating Been there it sucks God bless you
1MNUTZ
Your comment is as a breath of fresh air to me, although you’ve been through so much with Lexapro and the other drugs…
Not only has my mind been messed up totally from being on a combination of Lexapro, Valium and Suboxone (from having an opioid dependance, after being prescribed 100 tabs at a time, as I was a migraine sufferer). My battle started with Akathisia, after dropping a dose of Suboxone, and not long after, the Valium. I’m on 40mg of Lexapro, and have been having really strong suicidal urges for so long now… I’m only here because I cannot put my children through this, and because I believe the Lord has me somehow.
I’m struggling with my perceived lack of faith, and can’t even read my Bible anymore. I have nothing left, and cannot function at all.
The guilt is terrible, and I’ve been fearing the worst, that the Lord has left me. That thought sends me over the edge… My memory has been badly affected by these drugs, and it’s so so difficult forgetting everything.
I guess I need some encouragement, as you are still going through this, knowing that the Lord is beside you… But that in itself is encouraging for me.
Thank you for sharing, and God bless 🙏
I can’t even begin to say the importance of this video and it’s message!! Way to be strong Naomi!! So proud of you!!!
Thank you for this video. Zyprexa is a very dangerous medication. The side effects are not to be taken lightly. Many people get Tardive Dyskinesia and akinesia from these meds, movement disorders, sleep issues, GI issues and more. 1.4 billion in lawsuits against Zyprexa for a reason. I am so sorry this happen to such a wonderful father and husband. Prayers for peace for the family.
Back around 2000 I had been going through a stressful period, and was prescribe Welbutrin by a doctor. I took ONE dose and descended into a hellish day of suicidal depression. I ended up on a low dose of Effexor and tolerated it, but the effect wore off soon and all it did was make me feel dull. When I tried to go off it, I had bad withdrawals, so went back on it. I was on the lowest dose they made, and ended up slowly titrating off it over the course of many months. I was down to a quarter pill that I took every other day and even then I thought my brain was never going to be the same again.
These drugs are insanely powerful and there are individual reactions; my war vet partner was very fit and the year he had his crisis on a med a girl super athlete in town also hac an adverse reaction to one of the meds he was on. I asked an American doctor if their physical fitness might be a factor... ie a fast metabolism and he said yes it could be a factor ... so just this alone could feature in the risks; as host says; more information is coming out but it seems the docs were rushing to prescribe; personally I believe they should be in hospital if a new med is introduced or a dosage changed.
Psychiatrists can't give more informed consent. If they gave it, NO ONE would take the drugs, and therefore their own profession would become obsolete. Why would they do it? Most of them - not all - are manipulative drug dealers, nothing more.
Her husband would be still alive, if psychiatry didn't exist. Simply put. Like many other "anecdotes" and unfortunate exceptions, too.
That's how bad psychiatry is at its current state of art.
Thank you for evaluating the mistakes that were made, though. Still, I don't think this is enough, the drugs are indeed this bad and deadly. We shouldn't use them.
That sounds down right absolutely criminal to me! Let's lock these bastards up in prison!
Famous saying
If the drink don’t kill ya
The cure will
Pharma are bigger criminals than the real drug dealers - result pharma kills millions of people
Psychology and psychiatry are clever manipulation tools.
The main thing about the psychiatric - pharmaceutical co-franchise is to have people become cash cows!
These videos will save lives thank you Witt, I’ve thought about making these kind of videos before but nobody would listen because I’m not a psychiatrist so thank you for taking a harder road to help save future sufferers.
People will listen.
Wow, the world needs more honest doctors like you. You're one of the few real ones. ❤ from Canada
I went through this on Zoloft and zyprexa combo at 15 and ended up in a psych hospital for a bit and then started on my 13 years of benzo hell thus far. Im sorry for your loss and thank you for sharing. Thank you Dr Josef as well
🙏 Prayers for you to find what helps
Videos like this can save lives. This could have been me.
Videos and content like this helped me push back against pill happy psychs and get off towards healing. ❤
❤😊❤
Thank you so much for having these difficult conversations, when so many in psychiatry turn a blind eye.
Therapists and doctors turn a blind eye and take the DSM as their holy bible. There are symptoms and things I literally go through that are no where in any of their books and their audacity to explain everything away and downplay what we feel. When their job is supposed to be listening to us, the sufferers, the ones that know firsthand what is going on.
Ideologues!
He was a victim of doctors assessment procedures ( pharma highly skilled traps ), even had brother as MD blindly followed them. She was a witness of his torment and cant do anything constructive because the only solution for him prepared through the system was more drugs or psych ward as a last resort. Thank you medical science corrupted by pharma greed :( Thank you doc for humanly approach and your zest for thuth.
trace elements, water fasting, electrolyte protocol on hackstasis would have helped... rest in peace. He could have cured it eventually, especially with a wife, and one year OFF work. BUt yeah, medical professionals screwing him up is tragic and wrong. They don't know what they're doing.
Naomi, thank you for sharing your story which is mine too now. Three months ago my 42-year old husband died of drug-induced suicide - he suffered for 20 months. No help from the system, except for more gaslighting and more drugs. I don't know you but I hear your story and your bravery and the love you shared. Thank you again
Thank you so much telling truth. My brother died in sleep from cardiac arrest when medication was prescribed that should not have gone together
Thank you soo much!!! I can really relate to this conversation. My dad committed suicide in 2000. He had been on Prozac for several years, & cold turkey stopped it. We didn't know that he stopped it until he started showing signs of depression. He was put back on it & didn't improve. He was put in the hospital, seen a Psychiatrist & sent home on Effexor.. Nothing worked. I now believe he was suffering from discontinuation syndrome & he thought it was him, not the drugs causing it. I wish there were more information for family members of the side effects & the withdrawal symptoms. I really like your idea Naomi of a data base for those who commit suicide while on or stopping these drugs. The more we tell our loved ones stories hopefully more people will become aware of the importance of seeing what these drugs can do. Thank you again!!!
Effexor is an evil drug, I came off it, by myself - it was hell on Earth. I realize now that I was one of the lucky ones. Doctors just issue repeat prescriptions not realising what continued use does to your body and your self esteem. Badger your doctors folks until you get the help and answers you want! Mine were worse than useless - I should have kicked off more!
It"s All Over the Internet. You just have to know where to look. There's A Ton of information. Look up, to start, Dangers of Benzodiazepines. There is so much, including All of these Drugs! You will be busy reading and watching CZcams for Weeks or Months. That's just to start. Good luck.
This could be very similar to what happened with Lindsay Clansey (I'm not sure if i spelled her name correctly). Such a sad story. I want to thank this doctor for what he is doing. I don't know why one of his videos popped up in my feed, but i have been binge watching since yesterday morning. It must not be a popular position to be in among other psych doctors, but so needed. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Never again will I think of benzodiazepines in the same way, and I appreciate the heads up ❤❤❤ I already knew about the antidepressant warnings, it's just not talked about enough. This information must be spread far and wide. Love to Naomi from Columbus, Ohio.
OMG. I was reading about Lindsay Clancy just today! I have nothing but compassion for her, however tragic her story is. I really hope there is a God. I am not sure I believe anymore, after this. She was on many drugs. That was publicized. But what I read just earlier today,WAS THAT SHE WSS ENDURING WITHDRAWAL FROM BENZODIAZEPINES! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO TO PEOPLE. They cause brain damage.
I was put on Tramadol for a shoulder injury when I was 41. I had my first seizure ever while on that. I now have a seizure disorder. I’m 47. It has ruined so much in my life.
Didn’t realize Tramadol could cause seizures Thank you God bless
@@frederickmuhlbauer9477only when you abuse it. Take 400mg or more. Most prescriptions are 25-50mg
Wow, that’s incredible.
Thank you for letting people know. So sorry you had to go through this ❤
I’m so sorry western medicine strikes again! Are your seizure controlked
Thank you! My friend committed suicide due to AD meds. Her 4 children found her . 54:46 54:49 54:50 54:52 She had been baker acted a week prior but was released due to being deemed not at risk.
I’m so sorry for your loss and I am thankful you have the strength to share your experience with your husband’s. My friend was prescribed the meds due to an issue that made her angry. She was never depressed prior and her spiral was intense. She didn’t leave a note.
What are the time stamps (not sure what to call them) for?
So she killed herself at the hospital?
Or? What a heartbreaking story.
What did they put her on?.
I'm so sorry.
Sadly ..He didn't need to be on ANY of these medications. People need to start realizing THESE MEDICATIONS ARE NOT THE ANSWER. Stop looking for answers in a pill.
ALL of us don't need to be on these mind-altering drugs. They should not be the first line of treatment. There are more sustainable forms of long-term/permanent healing and recovery from mental illnesses. But these drugs are handed out like tic tacs by monsters who know the damaging effects of these drugs, but choose NOT to do anything because money is enticing. It is disgusting and appalling. The doctors, state and those who push for psychiatry should and must truly ROT IN HELL.
I was not looking for answers in a pill. I was in cortizone withdrawal which I got for nothing and was not informed of and then tapered too fast from a high dose. I went to therapy and all therapists I come across also pushed me on sleeping meds when i said I was not comfortable but my dad believed in it and then I was weird and stupid and took it for him cause everyone said so.
Many people want that quick fix. I always knew I never wanted them and that they would further ruin my life.
@@madelynhernandez7453 ME TOO! I told every therapist and every doctor I do not want any addictive or habit forming medications. They lied. It happens. And I was weird from cortisone withdrawal no one recognized but I felt like I was fighting for myself and my life and now instead of having gotten better after quitting work to heal and rest I have been destroyed.
Well when these pills are marketed as safe and effective treatment for anxiety and depression, why would anyone ever think this could happen? Don't sit here and say it's the patients fault, it's the damn Dr's and pharmaceutical companies for lying to the public
Every anecdote, story is important. Times hundreds and thousands they become data.
National suicide registry is a must.
What an extraordinary interview, for the wealth of information provided by both Naomi and Dr. Josef. This interview should be part of psychiatric education. It explains so much for doctors to be aware of. This interview is the essence of how to understand what to look for when a drug is wreaking havoc with a person’s brain. So that tragedies like John’s can be caught and averted. It is so tragic that had John seen a skilled psychiatrist like Dr. Josef he would have known John was suffering from drug induced side effects. Naomi, you are a singular warrior in the battle to get this information out to the unsuspecting public. Bravo to you Naomi and of course Dr. Josef.
I hate to bring it to you, but psychiatry is very aware of those effects and negative outcomes since decades. They withhold those information on purpose, as well as the addictive nature of psych meds. Psychiatrists are not told in their education. On purpose. It's a business model.
That's why nothing will change in the education. Moreover, we are at the stage where typical side effects have made it as symptom of certain mental disorders into the dsm. All to hide the effects...
This is wrecking people's life for money. A disaster. And it's not only a problem for mental health patients, those highly toxic drugs are used in hospitals (midazolam and haloperidol for covid patients for example) and nursing homes. They don't care.
Even babies are drugged up on neuroleptics from time to time. (There's data available of risperdal use in a few months old babies...) It's disgusting.
So, I can totally assure you, they won't ever mention those effects and longterm brain damage in education.
They rather tell them that reporting those side effects is a part of a mental illness and complaining is taken as a proof that they are mentally ill. This system is rotten to the core.
The psychiatric, pharma, doctors-field are not interrested.
They ALL DO KNOW.
It is $$$.
Not about your wellbeing, health.
They also know for a long time how many get damaged for life, commit suicide.
It is business, hardcore business.
The investors get money out of it and the rest of the medical, industrial companies.
WHO and NIH know how mental issues happen and the cures without medicines and so on.
You can research yourself the medical paoers, books.
The richest families are ruling everything and the powerful behind the curtains. This people know how to fool even insurance companies, gov's...
But actually everyone is in the same bed sleeping with eachother!
Btw.
I saw a young man studying for nurse. He was the best in the whole school and passed with ease.
At the moment he expected his diplom, the director sayd to him. I can not give you, your diplom for being a nurse, because you 'know to much' AND 'see to much' and that is not good for the 'business' in the hospitals!
So, he studied for nothing! Payed for nothing.
This director basically said, we want only people to graduate in the medical field who are not that smart and who do not see much, whats happening.
Omg, after 30 years, it is SO WONDERFUL to hear someone in the field (in a lot of ways in the industry, mega bonus) who knows what's going on and is speaking about it. (I do imagine there are prob others that I haven't encountered yet in my exploring.) Thank you thank you thank you!! And thank you to these beautiful people sharing their difficult stories so others can heal, or at least have more info before deciding to take.
Look up Dr David Healy. He's been speaking out about the dangers of SSRI for years.
Dr. Peter Breggin has also been talking out about this since the 1980-1990's. His book, "Talking back to Prozac".
Hopefully he found the peace he was looking for
I remember reading 2 very groundbreaking books in college in the early '90's: Talking to Prozac, and Talking Back to Prozac, one advocating it's use, the other proving how dangerous it is, and all the experiments that failed to prove SSRI's work, citing many examples of ppl having off and doing hideously violent acts on themselves and others after only 2 weeks on these meds (these negative outcomes were all swept under the proverbial rug!)😮😢
I will read the books.
I know nothing changed!
Yes, I was admitted to a psych ward in 1994. I had been put on Prozac 3 months previously. I was bloody ill, two small children at home to worry about . I got along on Prozac for a few more weeks when
without warning the psychiatrist took ALL of us (about 20 patients) of Prozac the same day!! Apparently linked with suicide - I can relate.
@@johedges5946
Many psychiatric meds are linked to actual suicide, aggression and behaving in a way that ruins families, children, babues, pets and dogs. Even killing their loved ones! Or just slapping their partners in their sleep.
Also disconnection from the loved ones and thus easer to commit suicide and family drama's.
I say, eat well and healthy ans throw out crap processed foods and drinks, drugs, alcohol. Go outside and work outdoors in winter and summer.
Avoid people who are making you sick and who are not your real friends. Who make you insane and chronic distabilized and lonely.
Nutrient deficienties cause psychiatric issues and lack of sleep too and lack of daylight and oxigen.
Toxins, molds, bacteria ovetgrowth, virusses, protozoa, parasites can make you behave strangly and different.
Your gut flora and oral flora and your gut/brain connection is real.
Abram Hoffer wrote some books about nutrition and a holistic approach to ease or cure schizophrenia and other mental states. Better to research yourself.
The rootcause is important to find.
Many depressed people do not search the rootcauses of their feelings/emotions. Psychiatrists and so on are also not searching with the client their depressions and rootcauses. That is not good for their 'business plan'. To much people profit from the diseases that are caused by 1000 of reasons and it is a business model related to pattented products, shareholdets, sponsors, organisations who's members profit from it, adding many industries and so on.
You can not change 'the system' because the construct and system we normal people live in is not a system to make people healthy and strong!
Yes, Dr.Peter Breggin was warning people about antidepressants way back then. He was wide awake at the p l a n d e m I c...warning of the s h o t s !
I was always having intrusive suicidal thoughts while on Lexapro without any depression. The thought would just randomly enter my brain.
Bless you Naomi i can see the hurt in you when you talk about it, we need more people like Yoseph to keep pushing this message of what of damage these meds can do!!
Is it normal to feel worthless, depressed, hopeless, on E, judged, fragile on antidepressants, because that's how I feel on mine? Sometimes they work and other times the pain I feel inside is a thousand times worse. 😭💔
What a heartbreaking story. Wonderful, informative channel.
28:50 Naomi's softness toward the pharmaceutical companies and even doctors -- absolving them of intentional blame -- is disappointing to see, and is indicative of how fearful our society is of accusing our abusers. I think she is gaslighting herself and letting them off way too easily. The companies AND doctors should take more accountability and responsibility and are therefore culpable in these deaths and auicides through their complacency, incompetence, greed, etc. Sheesh. She should be mad as hell and un afraid to show it.
RIP to this husband and father. I'm so sorry for this family's loss. Such a terrible shame.
Agreed! Anyone working in this system as a psychiatrist is acting in bad faith…is myopic and not willing to look past what is required to understand what they are recommending because it SERVES THEM and their status to do their job and keep their mouths shut. Let’s be real…there is plenty of information about these drugs online and if there are a billion lawsuits for damages from just one of these drugs…Hello!…what do you think is going on here.? It’s major denial enabled by money nothing else.
The disgust I feel comes from betrayed trust having lost one brother to suicide and another nearly driven insane going down the same path trying to deal with his anxiety/depression with “professionals” who kept doing the same things to “help”and magically thinking there might be a different result. Doctors work in a system (hospital, HMO) that dictates to them the appropriate treatment modalities and at the end of the day they just go along and then throw up their hands and blame the victim. Nothing new here really…it’s been going on for a long time if one cares to look.
Agreed
Don't Forget. They have known of these dangers and effects Since the 1960s and Before!! Don't ever think they didn't know! Don't absolve them if responsibility. Ever.
💯! I’ve read, “I’m Dancing As Fast As I Can” by Barbara Gordon. It’s an autobiography about her decent into hell when she abruptly (on the advice of her doctor) stopped taking Valium after taking it for years. It was a bestseller. I’ve read it 3 times. Guess when it was published? 1979!!
@@Michelle-zz7no Thanks for the recommendation. And wow, I'm surprised about 1979!
Thank you for addressing this issue. There are times when side effects of medicine are minimized or ignored to the person's peril. People who are involved in the medical profession are sometimes led astray in believing that by increasing the dosage of a drug induced side effect (for example suicidal ideation) will solve everything. The warnings on each medication should be clearly printed for each medicinal. I can remember reading warnings about certain drugs on fine, almost microscopic print. It is so important to be aware of the rewards and risks of pharmaceutical drugs and treatments.
Thank you for sharing your story.
My 27 year old grandson was prescribed Lexapro, and then the psych doc added wellbutrin, he's also on suboxone. My daughter, his mother died from suicide 2 years ago and she had been a drug addict for 20+ years, prescriptions and finally street drugs, then alcohol at the end. My grandson was introduced at a young age to a drug filled lifestyle, my daughter to provide but she had her own demons to deal with, ultimately she was done with life. His biological father is also a drug addict and has mothing to do with him. Bottom line I'm watching him following a very frightening path, his thinking can be so muddled, I wont give up, I'm driven to find healing for him. GOD'S BLESSINGS TO YOU ALL 🙏🏻 ✨️
Your such a caring Doctor
I spent 3 weeks on a psychiatric ward last month here in England . Mine was due to severe depression and ruminating. I was there voluntarily. I left feeling more disturbed, maybe because I wasn’t happy with the psychiatrist meeting there with 3 other people in the room, and also wasn’t happy with the psychiatrist, I couldn’t connect with him, because I didn’t feel safe opening up to him about everything ,he then hinted or made assumptions about what it could be bothering me based on a conversation I had with a student doctor who had possibly passed on some of it
My advice if you have ocd and rumination is to be very careful who you open up to as it could make you worse if it’s not the right environment to do so and you’ll feel highly anxious that it’s out there. Also my insomnia worsened in there. I thought it was what I needed at the time to be in there. I’m still struggling with my mood, these are difficult times.
fly to a cheap warm country and check yourself in a 5 star hotel for 3 weeks. much nicer environment to heal. i always wondered why they didn't make mental institutions beautiful in nature and with physical activity. come to morocco to surf, walk on beach, horseback ride, gym, eat healthy, and relax by the water at a nice resort.
Really enjoy your channel and the interviews. May I offer my deepest sympathy to your guest. I agree with her that more care is needed. Move em in and move em out is the American medical field’s mission statement.
Studies show that CBT is really helpful, including longterm!, for depression and treatment Resistant Depression. They mean that it is depression that is resistant to medication, not that it is reaistant to CBT, DBT, exercise, regular sleep, good friends, lowering alcohol,........
Thank you both for being so open about this issue.
So much valuable information here!
I also very much appreciate the doctor explaining the various warning signs we should all be familiar with which could be indicative of that person's life being at risk.
He hit the nail on the head saying that it seems NO doctors are being taught that these meds can cause long term and severe injuries for the few that I think we are allergic to them as some ppl get on and off with no issue and yet it’s the most horrifying thing to experience for us and EVERYONE around us and most of the time we’ve no idea what’s happening to us or why we just think we have gone crazy until we desperately scearch for answers and realise what been done to us
Thank you for sharing your story with us. I am trying to help a precious friend that I’ve known since high school and she is hanging by a thread. I don’t understand how a doctor can prescribe benzos to a patient for 20 years. Is it due to apathy? Lack of training? Greed? God Bless you, Dr. Josef. Thank you.
I was on amd off suicidal on meds, tapering meds and off meds. I was the worst when i got off valium. I attempted and now im absolutely screwed phsycially head to toe. Ive been bedridden because of it for over 2 years. On a positive note, i feel great and recovered almost 100 percent from med induced brain damage. No justice for us sadly.
Just a note, ive never in my life was suicidial before meds and now im okay 3 years post meds. These drugs are God awful
Every single mass shooter was on an SSRI ... or recently was removed from an SSRI.
Not true!
@@Sears111 It IS TRUE .. EVERY SINGLE ONE...since SSRI'S were introduced...
Yes many many of them
@GABA Thanks!
Please don’t say “every single one”. That is a false statement. Quit listening to Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor-Greene.
Naomi, I am so deeply sorry for your loss. And thank you so much for educating us on the real risks of these medications being over prescribed for what seems to be relatively normal, human stressful times that we all go through. I have always worried about this in my family, being prescribed psychiatric med's for times when genuine loss or stress has caused very natural grief or anxiety. What we need is healthy culture, community and systems to support people in healthily processing grief, stress, etc. Rather than just essentially selling drugs - which let's face it - most of the time that's what it is. Medication definately has it's place, but I can't help feeling that ,on the whole the pharmaceutical industry is the biggest drug cartel in the world. And from my experience, all medications have done have prolonged and reduced my ability to process very natural human emotions.
I have full pill bottles because I’m scared. And it isn’t a level playing field. I can’t think straight but i know what I’m feeling and doctors are forceful so just to end the horror of being agitated and trying to convince a doc who is gaslighting you, you end up saying “ok” and taking the script just to put an end to it.
trace elements inc. better choice safe.,.. vitamins... electrolytes, amino acids, strict diet and exercise helps tons.
This is a reality. I was put on an anti depressant that had me start to think about getting into a hot bath and slitting my wrists as the warm blood flowed into the water and I drifted into oblivion. I NEVER EVER had such thoughts before. I stopped the tablets and the thoughts stopped. Another one had me thinking, wanting desperately to jump off a bridge into the river. A river you don't come out of alive. I stopped tablets - thoughts stopped. I see today in UK they are starting a trial in eleven trauma centers where head injured patients will be placed immediately on something like Sertraline/Zoloft to prevent depression later on in recovery. The latest trial. What if those things make just one person far worse ?? This was just on BBC 02/04/2024.
she brings up a great point...a mental health professional being in touch with the GP!
I'm in month 22 of protracted withdrawals from benzos and every doctor says it's the protracted withdrawal anymore. It's all in my head.
My dear friend committed suicide while on SSRIs. He was in physical pain and I always thought the drugs made him worse (more frantically anxious and unable to think clearly).
So I was taking morphine and benzodiazepines for three months. Because a doctor prescribed those for treating my lumbago. I couldn’t ever imagine that I was going to hell. In the end I was planning to take my life. Luckily I got help and after 60 days I was out of it. Nobody talked about tapering. I went by ambulance twice, and they just sent me home with more drugs. I mean they are drugs that will kill you. Not medication.
I think that every doctor/psychiatrist who prescribes these drugs should try them themselves first!
I went through this hell for 10 years. Overdosed three times, for reasons, on benzodiazepines, I can’t tell you. I went off everything and it took me 18 months before I was mentally clear and free of the crazy thoughts. These are very dangerous drugs. My brother committed suicide last year while on antidepressants. It was completely unlike him to be emotional. He had his first grandchild on the way, he had a business…. So out of character for him. So very sad.
I'm so happy I found your channel. I have been on an SSRI merry-go-round for a few years, taking years to taper off with side-effects and running back to more side-effects. I wish I had never been put on these meds.
If John's brother was this dismissive of him and he was "treating" him - what is the hope for the rest of us? C'mon. I went through Lexapro and Effexor hell.
Another topic that would be very interesting and relevant would be antidepressant induced homicide
About 15 years ago I was on Tramadol for chronic pain for several years. I remember feeling psychotic on it and I actually remember searching “serotonin syndrome” because my symptoms felt closest to that. Eventually I started taking hydrocodiene and discontinuing Tranadol and those psychotic symptoms went away.
Also., What about do no harm? How many times do we hear these stories. And yet big pharma carries on changing brain chemistry will a lot of bad results.
I won't take anything anymore. I have tried all these medications and never relief. I tried ECT but was traumatized because they gave me too much muscle relaxer and not enough anesthesia so I wasn't breathing and couldn't even blink an eye so I was panicking and awake but couldn't tell anyone. I gave up on any hope to feeling better
Wow
Zyprexa is an anti psychotic, not an anti depressant. It's used for schizophrenia and bipolar.
Or to enhance the effect of an antidepressant
He literally explained all of it at the beginning
@@KaileyB616 Thank you, yes.
Nothing but love and concern and well wishes for all hurt and all helping to overthrow this insidious scheme from hell to poison and steal from humanity the life God wants us to have!
It’s called Pharmakeia in Greek, and the Bible describes it as sorcery.
So you’re right, it’s from the pit of hell!
I’m living it now, and haven’t even begun to come off the 3 pharma drugs that I hate so much…
It Happened to by father. I will never forget. Keep it far from me.
If anti depressants worked there would be no more depression in the world. The truth is the anti depressant that worked so well for me may drive my mother to commit suicide or cause my brother to become hostile and even more withdrawn and anti social. Anti depressants help some people and destroy others unfortunately nobody knows who will be helped or who's lives will be permanently destroyed.
WOW!!! If only only I had listened to this before I lost my sister to suicide 😢. And as for the AKATHISIA....I made this diagnosis MYSELF after hours of Googling her symptoms. Why did the Psychologists and Psychiatrists not pick it up😠 She suffered for AGES with the constant pacing, pacing, pacing to a point where she was absolutely exhausted but couldn't sit still - she had to keep on moving. It was heartbreaking.
And I have said the same thing...there should be some investigation into the horrific side effects these drugs and the willy nilly prescription by doctors who are not equippedg- just like the opiod investigation! I was horrified when I read that a side effect of these drugs are "suicidal thoughts". Well they should be more specific...a side effect IS SUICIDE ITSELF 😢
Is there reason for discussion about Jordan Peterson who ended up being put in a coma?? Is that what spared him??
So tragic... 💔,
and so important to talk about.
Huge thanks to both of you. ❤
I think reason why doctors still prescribe antidepressants, even if they sense they do harm, are the guidelines and their fear of beeing held accountable, if they reduce an antidepressant and this patient then commits suicide.
I mixed up a big bowl of antidepressants, antipsychotics, benzos eyc when i was incredibly sick and starving to death and i got better after that, go tell, was strange thing! Sorry for your loss!❤❤
Being he started the med in December.That also can play a role. Holidays can be the worst for depression.
Is there any mention of a lawsuit? Any implications for the brother treating him?
If you google Naomi's name there's an article she wrote Nov 22 in the Salt Lake City Weekly that goes into that subject.
Wasn't the brother trying to help, doing what he thought was the right thing to do?
@@kellyherrin There are legal implications and liabilities for a psychiatrist treating a patient. So if a psychiatrist does not follow standard of care guidelines and the patient harms himself or others then the psychiatrist can be sued for negligence. The brother was "trying to help" but may face the consequences.
@@gilrose12345 The brother is an internal medicine specialist. He is not a psychiatrist.
@@kellyherrin From listening to Naomi and reading her article I saw no evidence of the brother doing the right thing.
This is a gem video thank you so much for sharing . Spreading awareness
She said he stopped his pain meds cold turkey could this have something to do with his symptoms
Good point. When I cold turkeyed pain meds I started having panic attacks and many other horrible symptoms 3 months off. Post a cute withdrawals can last years
I was really curious about this and if he goes into this.
That's the world we live in today, allopathic world, keep people NUMB AND CONFUSED AND EVENTUALLY THEY TAKE THEY'RE LIVES😢
Mental health is the development of a mental + emotional dedication - a cathexis!
The whole idea of "Medicating Normal" is that there is no cure for normal human emotions! That is why you have the phrase "medicating normal." That is the meaning of the film here on the internet. It's meant as an irony.There is no such thing. You Don't Want to Medicate a Normal Human Emotion, unless it is an Emergency. Otherwise you are a zombie, which is what you become when you take their drugs. And You Don't Want That, Trust Me. Because that would mean you have Brain Damage. Which is literally what happens when you take their Drugs.
This sounds like my mom, how her Lewy body dementia began
Thank you so much for this channel! It is so very important.
Thank u DR & God Bless Naomi & her family.
Here is my issue, when you are depressed with or without meds, you can have these behaviors. You could appear on the outside to be ok, be super educated about depression, and then be gone because at any point be done with it. How do we figure out if it is the meds or the illness? In this instance we have a health educated person that would have known all the non-med routes. So his mental health issues must have been bad enough to take that next step. How do we differentiate between drug induced death vs the underlying illness progressively getting worse?
At a guess.. once the Causes of the condition of trauma/stress ors etc are dealt with or moved away from, there is no reason to suspect the underlying "disease" has gone worse is there.
Whereas continuing to prioritize symptom management (sorry to say but some/most times that is purely for the sake of nonsensical societal expectations such as the need to silence complainants) over the underlying issues is to make things worse in the long run.
There are warnings about tramadol and psych meds.
I would like to know about Venlafaxine support ..Oh yes I have to write things down because I know my memory will have amnesiabrain
I took that medication for only a month, and felt like I couldn't catch my breath. I had to stop taking it in a week.
took me a year to get off it. the brain zaps were horrible
Every time I’ve ever tried to get off I can’t do
It. Withdrawal
Is horrible. No one warned me and no doctor understands the tapering doses are NOT low enough
All these drugs need to be banned
they really do. Psychiatry and psychiatrists should be charged. The whole idea of it: problem in your brain not at all context is misleading and so damaging.
They don’t have to be if ppl stop taking them
@@CoCo-yv3hl people don't know any better. They go to the doctor and the doctor says take this so they take it.
Instead ...man must be better connected by each other...
Read the Bible:
The love of the Trinity Shows the way (!)
It is a lifelong battle...let's follow God .
The Father ,the Creator is ...good...
Love your Guide...Jesus...in mission .
Never forget .❤
The suffering caused by pills is biblical.
We need a blood or urine test that will tell us which medication will work. Unfortunately until we have one there's nothing we can do but just try different medications. 2 small doses of Zoloft caused me to have panic attacks every morning for 5 weeks. Mirtazapine worked wonderful for panic attacks but caused me to gain a lot of weight. Unfortunately for a person who is having panic attacks or severe anxiety there is no other way out. I
Wondering about his going on and off Lexapro for years before taking the Zyprexa. That can’t be good and I don’t think it was discussed.
Who are the people these meds actually help? Can we do some studies on those? I'm more of the opinion that if there are side effects, everyone will have them eventually, for meds taken over a long time. So for all I know, the meds only help in the sense that the person is already addicted and thus needs them, or was addicted to other drugs. Has anyone seriously come into the medical machine with no substance abuse issue but with a very big depression problem that is not trauma related (in which case meds obviously are the wrong answer as well)?
Ppl watching please do not abruptly. Stop your meds
Cycle off instead
Lexapro is the devil gaving me horrible akathisia from the beginning on. Doctor said it's just your anxiety... It gave me serotonine syndrom fast at 5mg.
I was pressed up to the max dosage -- pretty sure it was 30mg -- of lexapro over a few months. It was the first antidepressant I ever took. Once it kicked in, it worked great but only lasted a couple or few weeks, so the doc would up the dose. This happened repeatedly until I was at the max dose (which I wasn't even aware of). (Despite the doctor's Caribbean medical degree on the wall, I trusted him.)
Thankfully that doc disappeared from town and I picked up my last script taped to his door. I had one month to find a new prescriber (because that's all they are). The new prescriber was informed enough to know I was on the max dose and needed to change, so she switched me to Wellbutrin. I finally stabilized on that. Thankfully I stumbled upon removing myself from it a couple years later and didn't have any side effects. I attribute the lack of side effects to tourmaline but that's another story. I'm so grateful I got off the drug without problems. I really had no idea how dangerous it could have become.
I hope you are better and thriving ❤
You never should’ve been allowed to stay on Lexapro, considering the Akathisia at such a small dose!
I’m on 40mg Lexapro, and have been experiencing suicidal depression for I don’t know how long now, but I need to get off this stuff, as well as Benzo’s and Suboxone… It’s just frightening!
It’s stunning that you still promote the fallacy that there is no malicious intent behind this crime. Incredible.
Among many issues may be the metabolism of each person; we will react in different ways to meds. I think that it is not enough for a doctor to say Call If There is a Problem as often ... as I have seen with two friends, a patient may be having a huge adverse reaction and not understand it. In both cases they had been given an anti depressant and each took to running round town; one on the RR tracks until the police picked him up. It was as if both were in a mild sort of mania; i think it is note
able that each were supurb athletes; they did not know each other. I emailed an American doctor I had met years ago and he found that noteworthy also.
As soon as she said "Tramadol," I almost wept. I was given that during and after my gall bladder removal, and the serotonin syndrome alone drove me to attempt suicide.
Thank you.
She's upset with her brother in law. I don't blame her, but I can see also how the brother unknowingly attempted to help. That's the issue with these drugs; doctors know so little about them and the harm they can cause.
bad times
Im withdrawing, have pssd and unable to move bowels..thinking of ending it..
Don't
Ppl put too much faith in Doctors. Present company
Excluded
Oh so they keep prescribing?
This is me. Withdrawals are such a hell, I feel like going crazy sometimes. And my family being the ones that gave me those pills to shut up about their abuse and gaslighting me about them, even after having brain scans showing cortico-subcortical brain atrophy, is beyond maddenning.
I honestly don't think that I'll survive them (their abuse + withdrawals they put me in), but I can say that at least I tried...
Hypochondriac is a horrible mental disorder because no one can help as they have made their mind up. losing someone that close is the worst.
Tragic story, A DR. Should never take care of family members, especially a brother. RN in mgt. John was not paranoid about his boss not talking to him . " resignation" and termination is policy to not speak to former employees leaving their job under these circumstances. He verbalized he was a " drug addict" but the med/dose does not support addiction. I believe John was taking medication that is not documented. Sudden personality, mood changes and sudden job loss is a major red flag . There is more to this story. Very unfortunate the brother's plan of treatment was impacted bc his judgement was clowded. Very sad.