@@Topnikko Lucky man! I'm still looking for one but they're few and far between here in Canada. Still love my K1300GT, just need this one to complete the collection.
THATS MY BIKE! I just sold it to superbike factory a few months ago! Its an honour to have you review it - and it seems quite surreal to watch it on youtube. I have only really fond memories of it and was sad to part with it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I am 6'2 and getting a bit older, and I live in central london - I found the ride position a bit cramped, worse in slow traffic and after several days in the saddle, I was a little stiff. I got a 2013 GS1200 instead... which is also nice, a lot more ergonomic, but I miss the engine on the K1300. With this particular model, no expense was spared in the tuning and upkeep of the engine - I found it to be buttery smooth and super strong. It does 0-60 in under 3 seconds. Many a supercar has lost a challenge at the lights. Like you say, the bike is dignified and understated. It was absolutely fantastic.
@@RTPOV Thats a really good idea. I hadn't tried that, but in hindsight, thats what I should have done rather than change bikes. I see people having made adjustments to their sports bikes sitting pretty comfortably...
@@hasanraza430 Im definitely going to try the helibars first. \Im not sure about the footpegs, as I have pretty big feet and on a recent video I made using a 360 camera I saw my foot was already quite close to the ground, so not sure if i would end up contacting the road on corners. Wha bike dig you change to?
For me, a bike is a fun hobby. And with the weather we have had in the UK this "summer" I've hardly been out on mine. I was looking to move from my 08 tuono to a Super Duke GT, but given the fact I've hardly had a chance for a decent enjoyable ride I don't think the financial outlay would be worth it. Instead I've been looking at the likes of the k1300. I do a lot of 2 up and rides of 200 to 300 mile at a time so would possibly make far more sense.
Shout out Andy for 2nd hand bikes. We aren’t all wealthy but are avid bikers. I don’t spend more than £6k on my bikes or cars. I can easily get something for my needs. Please keep these coming
The k 1300 s is a legend , why bmw did not modernise them and continue building them is beyond me , I have had 3 and the one I have now I will never sell , not only underrated , they are the best all round bike ever built , I have had the electrical issues and the gremlins but easily fixed , great review Andy !
Best bike ever made❤ Had 4of these then bought brand new GS but its to slooow😅 I sold GS after just one year and bought 5th k1300s anniversary. Dont think I ever sell it again😉
Everytime I tell someone the GS 1200 is too slow by comparion they look at me incredulously saying the boxer is a very strong engine - thats true, but the K1300 engine is something else!
I have the 30th Anniversary Edition K1300s. It’s absolutely AWESOME. Comfortable, practical and ballistically fast. The only issue with them is the Hot Start issue, but once the auxiliary wiring loom is installed it’s sorted. Had mine for 8 years and will never sell it !
For a significant group of riders, the K1300S is quite simply the finest motorcycle ever made. I am one of them, and still sometimes wheel out my Motorsport edition just to admire its unique combination of engineering, art and sculpture whilst supping a coffee. I do have a contingency fund set aside for the K, but cannot think of a better way of spending my shekels. Stupendous performance, long-distance comfort, pillion and luggage capability, 56mpg and - on the overrun - sounding like a Bristol Britannia turboprop approaching Heathrow. Some owners have bought 2nd and 3rd bikes as donors for future spares, knowing that there is nothing on the market now to compare with the Slant K, and nor is there ever likely to be. The 'hot start' kit needs fitting: the Duolever front end doesn't 'talk' to the rider like normal forks do, you just very quickly learn to trust it: the ESA can be replaced with conventional shocks when or if it fails : the paint on the engine and transmission is admittedly not up to normal BMW standards : and that cheap switchgear seems to still be fitted to new BMWs. Finally Andy, I can't believe that you think the snub nosed VFR1200 looks better? That's like saying pugs and Pekingese dogs look better than greyhounds and lurchers - get to Specsavers!
I thought about selling my K13S MSport but changed my mind. Owned since 2016. Absolutely just can’t pull the trigger. Best looking and performing bike in its class. Still an open hole in the segment.
@@rumporridge1 I've owned two ZX14's, 1st and 2nd gen, both purchased new. I sold my 2nd gen many years ago and wanted another hyperbike and thought I was set on the gen 3 Busa. But didn't want to spend $20k. Started looking closely at the K1300S and pulled the trigger on a 2016 Msport with only 8,000 miles. Someone traded it in at a local dealer on lord knows what. I only paid $8500 and I think I stole it. Such a beautiful bike in every way.
56mpg? So 19litres should be 230+ miles, this is significant compared to the VFR12. Currently on an old, but gold, Blackbird. Would you go for it in my position?
@@BRMCaptChaos Not to take anything away from the Blackbird, as it was a special bike in its day. It paved the way for bikes like the K1300S. But the BMW is better in every way.
Sorry, I have to put the old anorak on… It’s not got a TeleLever but a DuoLever front end, which I’d argue is the better way to do a no dive front end. Hats-off to Norman Hossak for being at the root of that innovation. Love your reviews, I’ve watched them ever since I started riding. These used bike reviews are amazing. Keep it on !
I was looking for this comment because I have one (2010 in the same color as the one in the video) and that threw me off too. The K13s has a DuoLever front suspension. and my R1100R has a Telelever front suspension.
I had three k1300s bikes and loved every single one. Such a shame they stopped making them. For me it was a perfect combination of performance and touring ability. Went around Europe many times and enjoyed it blasting down the b-roads equally. Made me a life long BMW fanboy. Only problem I ever had was on the second bike with rear shock failing twice and leaving me stranded on the side of a french countryside road.
This review was part of decision to get one of these bikes at the end of last year. Been an amazing journey so thanks for the info! Such an understated and unkown bike. Wasn't even on my radar. So glad i got it! With so little content of these bikes on youtube ive decided to document the journey on my own channel to contribute to its memories in the future ❤
Thanks Missenden for your accurate review of the k1300s. Although limited with electronics compared with todays macnines, I too believe it "just enough". She rides as good as she looks, a smooth tourer with beautiful torque and comfort. The k1300s introduced in 2008 is redo of the k1200s originally introduced in 2004, styling and technology is approaching 20 years but I still love it. If anyone is interested consider picking a 2015 or 2016 Motorsports Edition which includes the latest features of this model's production run.
@@CommerzTVim sure he means overall. Youre right and theres also no way you'd keep up in a straight line or be able ride as long as he could on his K1300s. Every bike has its strengths. His weighs 569lbs, has ESA, a comfortable seat, a deeper seating position, higher bars. You can go further in more comfort. Luckily it also has 175hp and 103ft-lbs of torque too.
@@CommerzTVbut i love your spirit! I was a sport bike loyalist until my body couldnt go far in that position anymore without a lot if pain and serius numbness in my right thumb and the two fingers next to it within a short time on a sport bike. Not too safe or fun.
Lovely too see the legend being the k1300s , these bikes have a huge following and a bit of a hidden gem , hopefully you managed to explore the true power and handling of these epic bikes , if i had known a k1300s was going to be on the channel i would have loved to have given you my HP version which with the akra can makes a big difference along with factory quickshifter ect , but was great to see this bruiser on the channel and again another thumbs up for these older bikes that are actually affordable
Great review. I have the unfaired K1300R version. Have owned it for 14 years and 60k miles. Still as quick as most modern bikes. I struggle to get less than 50mpg. Have toured on it, been round the TT course without being overtaken, and dragged raced it with a 10.3 1/4 mile time. It's like riding an armchair, as one of my BMW S1000R riding mates puts it. I'll never part with it.
The K-series is generally underrated IMO, the four cylinder engine suits the riding a lot of BMWs actually end up doing better than a boxer does! Whilst I admire the K1600 using a six cylinder engine it does make that bike a behemoth, whereas the K1300 could reasonably fit into naked and sport bike guises. To honest though I'm most intrigued by the K75 flying brick triple!
I rode the K100 bikes, in fact I owned all of the different models of the K100s. If you like power, you would not be satisfied with the K75. They were smooth engines and a little lighter but much slower. Short riders did like the K75C and RT low seat versions.
I have a red 2011 K1300S, love it. Far more nimble than people think but you have to muscle it a bit. Quickshifter is superb.I had 2 K1200S before this one so a bit biased! I honestly can’t think of another bike I’d want. Been around Europe loads of times on BMW K bikes, so reliable. I do my own spannering so dont stress about things going wrong. Saying that, very little has but I do tend to over service them. Lots of support forums out there for advice. I’ve found cost of parts comparable with other makes. Anybody thinking of buying one, just do it.
I had a 2009 “Tri-color” K1300S for a number of years and thought it was a great bike but definitely needed a cruise control. My friends referred to it as “The gentleman’s Hayabusa”. Lol
A nice review TMF. It doesn't have a telelever front suspension though. It has duo-lever, which is basically a further development of a John Hossack suspension system design. I've owned both and think its better personally.
Nice to see you review this. I think these days these bikes are very underrated. Equipment-wise they're up to current scratch unless you're a tech geek that always needs every latest piece of tech you can get. Power-wise enough said. Comfort-wise still current (not much has changed in a couple of decades unless you pay for aftermarket seat/suspension). You mentioned there's 'nothing too complicated' but under the skin (I've completely torn down and rebuilt 2 of these) they're quite complex, which IMO is typical BMW and a drawback, which I presume is why they don't hold their value. If you can pay someone else to do the work when needed they're a nice bike to ride. I also own a R1150RT and the K1300S feels like a lightweight after that monster. EDIT: I'll add that the throttle response is so good and predictable that you don't need riding modes
I have k1300 ‘09 , I bought it last year, great bike, soo much power and still smooth ride, under the 6l/100km with normal ride. But still expensive for maintenance…
@@TheMissendenFlyer we went Hull to Rotterdam, then rode up through Holland to Germany up to Puttgarden, caught a short ferry there to Rodby in Denmark. From Rodby to Copenhagen and an overnight ferry to Oslo which was fantastic - flat calm water and you could watch Sweden drift by for hours. From Oslo we rode up to the Trollstigen - amazing road in the Fjords. The way back we came through Sweden, Gothenberg and stopped in Malmo, then rode over the Oresund bridge back to Rodby etc.
Hi and thanks for all the good info.I got a 09 tri color and luv my ride. As I was watching this video ,it reminded me that not too many other (new or old) bike would I switch for! Great package and the power and comfort is addictive and competitive even compared with new rigs. As u can tell 5 stars from me. Cheers for reminding me of a great choice for MY NEEDS. 100% right no need rto spend $ tons to get quality and safety . All the best from Newfoundland Chuck
I have the 2009 GT version of this bike that I bought new. It has everthing I need. Just enough modern tech and loads of power and very comfortable and it has been reliable. No need to trade up and paid for long ago! Great review Mr Flyer!
Great vid Andy, what i like about these vids is they prove you don`t need to spend a fortune to get a great bike. You`ve reviewed some really stunning bikes at really affordable prices. It`s only snobbery that drives people to buy extremely expensive brand new machines, yet for a fraction of the price, you can buy a sound 10 year old, very low mileage machine in mint condition, that will do everything a very expensive brand new machine will do, but without the hassle of having to run them in. Keep them coming.
This is so inspiring - I'm re-evaluating my wish list to consider some bikes which aren't the latest and greatest. And this is especially useful these days with costs going up, we really need to have a good look at where we can save some money but still have some fun!
Lovely engine, and tons of power. Sadly BMW had other plans and decided to go with a 6 cylinder engine. This range, including the R and the GT had something of a reputation - switchgear failing regularly, poor paint finish (you don’t see many today without bubbling corrosion all over the shaft drive housing), a radiator design that meant that unless you flushed it out regularly gunk would collect at the bottom and the bike would overheat (and it turns hot, especially in town) and a weird heavy grinding clutch feel. Be prepared to shell out on maintenance! My favourite was the GT and even today it’s a better, lighter tourer than the K1600 and proven to have better low end torque too. The unique dual link front suspension makes for a lovely ride quality. If only they made the S1000XR a little less aggressive it could almost be a worthy successor…
Had the same problem with the hot start and the clutch vibes is because its a dry single plate...if them problems we're ironed out I would still have mine 👍👍
I had one of these for a few years, a wonderful bike. Watch out for faulty electrically adjustable rear shocks as they are non re-buildable and cost a fortune to replace. You'll also need an iron discipline on your right hand as the quick shifter is addictive and will get you into a lot of trouble with the boys in blue as crazy speeds feel like you're barely coasting.
Hi my friend. I purchased a couple of these bikes new. A 2010 in granite gray, black, red and another fancy 2013 anniversary model in white, red, black. I've thoroghly enjoyed both bikes touring and general sport riding. Reliability has been excellent with only a recall on both for the left switchgear replacement. I don't recall anything else breaking or wearing out except battery and tires. Even as an older design, they will still run (or outrun) most newer model bikes of 1000cc or larger. For sport touring, still waiting for something better to be released.
Good review, I owned one for over 3 years and I do miss it. I did thousands of miles on it, including over 1000 miles in under 19 hours. I part exchanged it for a diabolical Ducati and regretted it within the first 6 months. Yes the clutch is heavy, but you do get used to it. I fitted an MRA Touring screen with the secondary 'wing' which made a massive difference. Those panniers when extended, you then pull the ratchet locks out, lock in to place to secure it then push any 'spare' back into the hard plastic, these gave a flexability.
I just picked up a 2012 K1300S. I think you are correct regarding one of the reasons they d/c's this bike (Euro4 emissions mandate 2017). Thought about a K1600 but could not wrap myself around the additional 200 lbs and complexity/cost of repairs. Thanks for the justification for a picking up this as a second bike!
Thanks for the review I bought a 2012 K1300S 3 years ago with 68000 miles. My mileage is now 82600 miles without any trouble. There is a known issue of difficult start when the engine is warm. It can be fixed with a specific electrical kit availableon Internet (the starter cable needs to be doubled). It is a great bike for touring with a lot of Torque and also a red zone at 11000 rev/min which can be a challenge for your driver license. The only drawback I noticed so far is the heat of the engine when you drive in Cities in summer. This might not be he best bike for commuting but is a hell of a ride on road.
Had a couple, last being the Motorsport edition with the forged allow wheels, effortlessly fast, stable better built than later BMWs, thoroughly reliable and surprisingly cheaper to service than the boxer engined bikes!
I have a 2010 version of this bike in the same color and it is an amazing machine. I have added green accents, including all of the fairing bolts painted green and added carbon fiber accents. The ride is fantastic! I grabbed mine as a project bike that needed some rescuing. It is now complete and running great. It is a luxury bike! Like you mentioned, a bit weighty but very well balanced due largely to the positioning of the engine with the cylinders canted forward. One detail... The front suspension on the K1300 is a Duolever rather than a Telelever BUT it is still a super smooth suspension.
Great review sir. My 2015 K1300S was bought mostly out of intrigue in the riding position. The aerodynamics of the screen actually pushes my shoulders back and supports my upper body at anything over 30 mph. The panniers are small (and yes, they do expand but looks ungainly), there is no top box (available in the GT version) and looks ridiculous with a large roll top bag on the back when touring. The kerbside appeal is the view you shared when doing the stats- it is a fantastic looking bike, goes like stink (if you need it), super comfortable when churning out the miles and, for me, it is more sports than touring but with a modest sized roll top bag, it is perfect for the long weekend trip. Rumour has it that BMW R&D were busy around 2016 with an update to the S1000 engine but more focus was on the development of Shift Cam technology for the R1250 engine. There was no resource available to update the K1300 engine for compliance with Euro 5 emissions. Keep up the content and RSMF.
Great review Andy. Brought back memories of the two of these I had from new a few years back. Great sports tourer with bags of go, planted and comfortable. Shame they were discontinued.
IMO The best bike BMW ever produced - Like a lot of manufacturers when they have a winnning formula they suddenly stop production. Another example would be the Triumph 1050 ST
Nice review Andy. 👍 I had a K1200S back in 2005/06 which was the fore runner to the K1300S, but apart from the extra engine capacity, that was the only difference between them. BMW initially had a number of engine problems with the first K1200S's on launch and rumour has it they went to Porsche to help them with that engine. I believe it was the first road bike engine to use finger tappets between the cams and the valves, like what is used in F1 engines now, and most high performance supercar engines made today. The K series engines are very smooth and powerful and also very mechanically quiet. I bought mine 9 months after the updated model came out with all the engine issues fixed. It was a truly wonderful bike and wished I hadn't sold it, but a crash on another bike, a Yamaha MT-01, put me out of motorcycling for nearly 2 years, hence the K1200S was sold...
Got one also, in Lava Orange and I am not letting go of it. I note, you missed the fun part on upshifts.. they have a nice quickshifter which would have been fun on the dual carriageway. But yeah, stunning bike, my family adore my one.. probably going to end up being an heirloom.
Good review, I concur it is a massively overlooked bike and was technically advanced for it's era - is a pity BMW discontinued it as they have not made anything quite like it since (shaft drive, torque for days -with- top end fizz not found in boxers). I took my old K1300S up to 60 something thousand miles before a gearbox issue (would skip out of gear accelerating hard in 1st) and then a weird judder after a clutch replacement that I was assured was normal started to take the joy out of it. So with all my lessons learnt I went and got a low mile K1300R (prefer the naked styling, also at 6'2'' the S windscreen didn't actually do much) and have been enjoying that since. Tips for 2nd hand buyers: -Look closely for corrosion on driveshaft/underside of engine -Stand next to it and with front brake on give the front end a shake back/forth, shouldn't be any knocking etc -If an ESA model check closely for any errors and that it raises ride height slightly on sport vs comf -If you tour, try and find one with the hard luggage, its costly to purchase by itself and is hands down the best luggage option for these -Try and get one with the quickshifter and/or Akrapovic can, together they're the most fun you can have with your clothes on (pops and bangs like a GP bike) Tips for new owners: -If the fuelling feels way off/it stalls as you clutch in and stop at lights this is probably a clogged crank case breather pipe -If it starts to become hesitant to start on the button and there is no activity from starter/cranking (assuming battery has charge etc) this is a sign the rightside switchgear is failing, change it before it strands you -Changing the brake discs is a pig of a job. If you have a low tolerance for for torx bits snapping/the heads of bolts turning to mush just give it to BMW. I'd say just use aftermarket disc bolts for the front but I think half the reason the OEM ones have such an odd profile is the confined space they're working in (they're M8x27 with threadlock pre-applied and the head is like 15mm across but only takes a T30 torx bit.. go figure). The rear bolts are more reasonable sized/don't disintegrate, but, are accessed from the shaft side of the disc (again BMW engineers showing their trademark duality between brilliance and.. not so much), via a recess that's not really big enough to avoid contact with the driveshaft casing.. to avoid gouging the driveshaft casing I found that getting a long torx bit then whittling down the hex extrusion so it was smooth and putting tape on the driveshaft left it unmarked. -BMW warranties the ESA shocks at each end to 30k miles, if/when they fail, BMW only offer full replacement as a recourse which is astronomical money - however in the UK you can ship them/drop them into Firefox Racing up near Bradford for an OEM level rebuild. -this list isn't exhaustive.. drop a comment for any specific queries!
Wonderful couple. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Don’t know what it is with you “flyers” but I can’t stop watching. Simon, Vulcan 1700 nomad rider, who wants a K1300S
Great bike I have had a K1200s and now have K1300r, awesome machines both of them however they are stupidly expensive to repair, even changing spark plugs is a royal pain, however an amazing bike and bang for buck wise can't be beaten, great review though.
I own a 2007 K1200S as a daily ride (not using the Panigale V4 for that). It’s the pretty cool silver/black blue one. I must say, it is the best allrounder I’ve ever ridden. I’m going to ride it until it breaks down permanently, but it’s been extremely reliable so that may take a while… Might look at a late K1300 after that, pretty gutted that BMW never made a proper replacement. The K1200/1300S was a brilliant bike.
When you said it was handsome I had to check I was watching the same video, it looks disproportionately stretched out to my eye. Thanks again TMF, good review as always.
It is a shame that they don't make these anymore. I think that they would sell very well. Great bike. Powerwise and handlingwise just not for everyone. Got my like.
Thanks for the review, Andy! I've always wondered about these bikes, they seem great. I'm also a channel member for over 4 years now, we're going strong haha
Great bike! I was supposed to buy one ten years ago but after a track weekend with my old bike I bought a sportsbike and spent years having fun on tracks. Finally it is now time for a K1300S that I will pick up tomorrow and I hope we will have a long dry warm autumn here in Sweden before we go into winter mode. 👍😀
We got dry and sunny weather, and at least ten degrees centigrade, both Sunday and today so I took the opportunity and rode it. It is really a great bike! I had forgot how much power there is, it just keep coming! I just love it!
Love Saturday mornings, just back from hour and a half jaunt around quiet roads got a sausie sandwich, a huge cup of tea, the Missenden Flyer and peace and quiet because everyone else still in bed.... perfection 😊
Please excuse the ad hominem, but I too learned the hard way Big Money Wanker makes great bikes . . . but, $10 parts can too easily turn into $1000 repairs. On the other hand, if your other hand knows how to use tools they may be the most frugal purchases available.
Second this. My K1300S has to get its ball joint replaced in around 3000-5000km and it's just a 40€ part. Repair will cost between 400€ and 1000€, as almost the entire front has to be disassembled, the joint is screwed and glued in and if something gets damaged almost the entire telelever has to be replaced. fun times.
@@robedmunds7163 I know, but the issue is that its not unlikely that the part it's screwed into gets damaged in the process of removing the joint. And that part is expensive
Hard to compare to any other bike, what bikes from that era had this kind of performance + electronic suspension etc? The engines are bombproof if you know how to change oil, never had issues with my K1200R and im at around 90.000 KM :) Been a cheap bike to own for me Not massive milage, but it rides like new to be honest
Great review, had my 2010 for a couple of years now and love it, although it is heavy, the quality and power, plus fuel economy (50 ish mpg) and comfort is outstanding, great to see you did this review as there aren't many on CZcams and always wondered why cos the bike deserves more attention
I had the red, white and black version. What an eye stopper.! It was heavy through the twisties which was the reason I went back to the twin RS'S., but for long distances it was super. The only thing that was hard to get use to was that if you sneezed it would instantly gain 20 mph. Lol. The 175 hp never suffered because of it's weightiness. Wish I still owned it, but 3 is my limit. The 👍👍🏍🏍🏍🙋♂️
These kind of reviews are increasingly useful for people who ( such as myself ) can't even get insured on high value bikes because we live in London, in my case , or I imagine a lot of major cities
Interesting comments. I just bought a 2010 model; I am based in SW France and drove up to Cologne to collect it as found a dealer who was professional. I saw the R90S in 1974 when I collected my CB250 K4 back in 1975 in the beautiful silver / orange livery so when the K13 came out in Candy Orange in 2009 as an hommage, that was me sold. I cant go into my garage now without staring at it, just stunning. Slowly gaining confidence on as since as you say the weight needs respect but one she is rolling, its very stable. Only think I find is the throttle is very sensitive, maybe just me. Anyway, loving it, thanks again for the review
That wrap-around fairing you found surprising was the norm from the mid 80s up to about a decade ago. When the Kawasaki GPZ 900R launched in about 1984 it set a major trend (a bit like the GS would do for adventure bikes) for faired sportsbikes, some called them superbikes, race-reps, sports-tourers, whatever. The fairings certainly made bikes more aerodynamic and improved performance and comfort providing you were happy to tuck-in behind the bubble screen. I had several. The only problem was that these bikes were/are very front-end focused (to keep you straight at twice the speed limit+) and it was fairly easy to drop them because if the front wheel slides you just can't hold it up. Then came the issue of getting the fairing repaired, resprayed, etc. Expensive. I became familiar with the art of "plastic welding". The fairings certainly kept all the road muck off the bike and cleaning became easy - a quick sponge-over would do. Over the last decade the rise of nakeds, retros & adventure bikes has made full fairings almost a rare sight.
I bought a 2013 30th anniversary edition 2 months ago and love it . I come from a naked to maxi scooter back ground and hadnt ridden a manual in 20 months,however its so easy to ride i never stall it as the bike just wants to go. Effortlessly power full and so much torque you can ride it lazy or get on it and use the up quickshifter and hit 3 figures so easily on a track of course. Its a bit wristy to what im used to but its ok im averaging 48.7 mpg and a motorway run i think 220 -250 miles is possible . Tha cowl on the bottom is red on mine so would think its standard on all . Keep up the great work andy 👍
Great review Andy, I've had 3 of these over the years in the different styles, K1200R Sport, K1300S and K1300R such a gorgeous silky engine, you could take your CBT on it the fuelling is so smooth,.
I have the 2014 Red and White Anniversary Edition. Picked it up with 400 miles and rode it home 2000 miles in 3 days. 10 years later, she has almost 70K miles on the clock, and my mechanic says I can squeeze out another 50K. With scheduled maintenance, she's never put a spark out of place, never left me stranded, never overheated, or failed to start. Not even a flat tire. For 10 years, I've looked for a better bike and still haven't found it.
Had a K1200S which did 80,000 km before an expensive electrical failure. Looked to replace with an S1000XR but not that impressed with the vibration. Found a 2015 K1300S which had only 2600km on it and bought that. Very happy with it - while it is not the most exciting bike (most Of my bikes are Ducati) it is great at crushing distances and in bad weather. I added the full Akrapovic system to mine as they can be found cheap now the bike is not in production. This supposedly adds 10th but gives it a much better sound and saves 20lbs and the carbon can is much cooler. The other great accessory for these bikes is the rear bag that sides and locks onto the rear rack. Big one adds 55l and fastens with just two buckles. Only supposed to do 140km/h but mine has stayed on at much higher speeds that that.
Great review, as you say you don’t need to spend big bucks to get a premium quality motorcycle. I recently purchased a 2003 BMW R1150 rt with 23k miles for £1700 and it’s been a revelation and a eye opener to what amazing budget bikes are out there for the price of some accessories on top end bikes.
I had a 30 th anniversary model wish I had never of traded it in. If I could find it now I would buy it straight back. It’s a lovely bike. I love my GS but I’d love to have this aswell
Great presentation, thank you. The K1300 was a great engine and BMW made excellent Bikes with it until they introduced the 6 cylinder 1600. The K1300S was a wonderful Sporttourer, but unfortunately it had a strong competitor with Yamaha's FJR 1300, which sold significantly better in Europe. So great memory refresher. 👍🏼
I had a K1300S for a couple of years, as I think I said in a separate comment. I had only two problems. The first was overheating in the summer. Never really tracked that down but the radiator guard does sometimes get full of mud. The other problem was blistering of the shaft drive bevel housing. That and the forks seem to go on higher mileage models. Other than that, I had tens of thousands of happy riding out of it. At 50mpg!
Nice review, such great bikes. On my 3rd which I plan to keep. Surprised you did not mention the awesome quickshifter which makes the bike sound like an old school F1 racer or F111 jet when you hit the higher revs! 😁
That's quite funny! If you ever get the chance to try one again, you really MUST use it! Its silky smooth and like riding a bike with an auto gearbox! Keep up the good work! 😁👍@@TheMissendenFlyer
Cheers Andy! Always enjoy your insightful reviews. Please continue introducing "bargain" bikes, for someone like myself these new bikes nowadays are beyond my financial means. It is a stunning tourer, but I like to work on my bikes and BMW is known for needing a "special" mechanic and repairs are usually quite costly. Anyhoo, a rainy summer we've had indeed and lots of insects to chew on! All the best, safe riding!
Sorry to be a pedantic ass, but that's the Duolever suspension, not Telelever. The Telelever on the GS has the telescoping fork tubes and a single control arm. Duolever has two control arms and the forks are solid forgings, a lot like the new Goldwing's suspension. Nice review and I do think it's a shame it's no longer made, but I suspect GS sales killed it off.
Have a K1200rs with a working abs. That bike can take a drop pretty well. A scratch but always back without needing a fix. A buddy has the k1300. One drop and the side panel needed replacement and his abs stopped working. Apparently few options here in the States to get fixed.
I had one and loved the solidity of the bike and its super secure high speed mode. Commuting 100 miles down the M40 there was no better machine. However, with an aftermarket exhaust I just felt the bike was laughing at me. “Is that the best you can do?”, it would ask, even as I tried to ride it as hard as possible. I swapped it for a KTM adventure bike. Kind of wish I had kept it.
I owned its predecessor the K1200S and loved the bike....powerful and comfortable. I recall it being thirsty and it tended to hunt a bit at slow speeds on small throttle openings, but I think BMW sorted the fuelling out with the K13. Yes, that fairing lower panel was standard. Overall, it was a great bike, but buyers need to be aware that it eats tyres and the servicing costs are steep, primarily due to the amount of bodywork that needs removing. Great video as always. Thanks.
Had 2 of these bikes back to back and had vibes in both, hand numbing if ridden long enough. So super smooth i wouldn't say. Good solid bikes with good quickshifter. Traded last one in for a New Kawasaki Zh2 , now we are talking smooth and super powerful plus much more comfortable riding position . Made k1300S feel slow and sluggish. When you doing a review of the ZH2 ??
Great review as always Andy, we've not met yet but it's like I know you by now, the way you flow through these reviews effortlessly makes for super easy watching. This bike has gone under my radar and if it wasn't for the fact it has no cruise control I would want it as much as I want an FJR1300 although to be fair those had none up to 2013. See ya for the next one mate, cheers, MB.
Brilliant old school sport tourer with shaft drive, I was a Blackbird man. I moved onto adventure bikes for comfort but interested in the RS next time. Forgot that it had the telelever front end but it’s a hell of an engine….
These bikes are in fact incredible bang for the buck, and pretty widely available. I had the pleasure of bike-sitting a 2010 k1300gt a few summers back and really enjoyed it. While the package is BIG and designed more for zapping horizons vs carving up twisties there’s a lot to love. The inline motor definitely does deliver more of its punch up top, vs the boxer, of course, but man does it pull. As noted, it’s just a smooth ride overall. The GT also had hard luggage and an electric windscreen. I ended up on an R1100s as I prefer the boxer and a sprightlier feel, but renting a k1600b earlier this year has me thinking that I might like to have one of these around for highway strafing and longer cross country tours. There was recently a pristine S model for sale nearby, low miles, low price. These bikes won’t be overlooked for much longer imo - thanks MF!
I have the 2013 anniversary edition, use if for work as well as pleasure, 1000 ish miles a month minimum. Its approaching 50k miles & never missed a beat in the 2 years ive had it.
A great review Andy , I sold my 2010 model recently and I do miss it. I did 30k miles on it including several tours , it was very reliable and only needed standard servicing . Did use a fair bit of fuel especially when used around town . It was a great bike to own .
I spent a day on a K1300S back when they were new. I really liked it. The price was the only thing standing in the way. I ended up with a Honda VFR1200F, which is probably the only direct competition when you think of an open class shaft drive single sided swing arm sport tourer. Main reason was they knocked $5k off the price in the US for poor sales. I think it's also better looking and shifts better. Both great bikes.
Never letting go of my pristine 2015 K13 Motorsport.
I’ll give you 8,000
@@jeremypeake lmao. Add another zero.
Me too!
I have a 2016 Motorsport. Just purchased from the 1st owner with 8,000 miles. I absolutely love it.
@@Topnikko Lucky man! I'm still looking for one but they're few and far between here in Canada. Still love my K1300GT, just need this one to complete the collection.
THATS MY BIKE!
I just sold it to superbike factory a few months ago! Its an honour to have you review it - and it seems quite surreal to watch it on youtube. I have only really fond memories of it and was sad to part with it!
How cool is that! Why did you sell it? What do you have now?
@@TheMissendenFlyer I am 6'2 and getting a bit older, and I live in central london - I found the ride position a bit cramped, worse in slow traffic and after several days in the saddle, I was a little stiff. I got a 2013 GS1200 instead... which is also nice, a lot more ergonomic, but I miss the engine on the K1300. With this particular model, no expense was spared in the tuning and upkeep of the engine - I found it to be buttery smooth and super strong. It does 0-60 in under 3 seconds. Many a supercar has lost a challenge at the lights. Like you say, the bike is dignified and understated. It was absolutely fantastic.
@@hasanraza430 I'm 6ft 2 and also find it a little bit cramped. Did you ever try Heli bars or lower pegs? I'm thinking trying that on mine
@@RTPOV Thats a really good idea. I hadn't tried that, but in hindsight, thats what I should have done rather than change bikes. I see people having made adjustments to their sports bikes sitting pretty comfortably...
@@hasanraza430 Im definitely going to try the helibars first. \Im not sure about the footpegs, as I have pretty big feet and on a recent video I made using a 360 camera I saw my foot was already quite close to the ground, so not sure if i would end up contacting the road on corners. Wha bike dig you change to?
Great review Andy. These reviews of older bikes are what are needed for us folk that cannot shell out or finance new £10k plus bikes. Many Thanks
My pleasure Tony - thanks for watching!
Its also for people like me who`s interested in bikes in general and isnt even looking to buy a bike. New or old:) Totally agree its a great review:)
For me, a bike is a fun hobby. And with the weather we have had in the UK this "summer" I've hardly been out on mine.
I was looking to move from my 08 tuono to a Super Duke GT, but given the fact I've hardly had a chance for a decent enjoyable ride I don't think the financial outlay would be worth it. Instead I've been looking at the likes of the k1300. I do a lot of 2 up and rides of 200 to 300 mile at a time so would possibly make far more sense.
Shout out Andy for 2nd hand bikes. We aren’t all wealthy but are avid bikers. I don’t spend more than £6k on my bikes or cars. I can easily get something for my needs. Please keep these coming
This bike costs 15-17k euros in my. Country
The k 1300 s is a legend , why bmw did not modernise them and continue building them is beyond me , I have had 3 and the one I have now I will never sell , not only underrated , they are the best all round bike ever built , I have had the electrical issues and the gremlins but easily fixed , great review Andy !
Thanks for watching Gavin - appreciate it!
Best bike ever made❤ Had 4of these then bought brand new GS but its to slooow😅 I sold GS after just one year and bought 5th k1300s anniversary. Dont think I ever sell it again😉
Fair enough!
Everytime I tell someone the GS 1200 is too slow by comparion they look at me incredulously saying the boxer is a very strong engine - thats true, but the K1300 engine is something else!
I have the 30th Anniversary Edition K1300s. It’s absolutely AWESOME. Comfortable, practical and ballistically fast. The only issue with them is the Hot Start issue, but once the auxiliary wiring loom is installed it’s sorted. Had mine for 8 years and will never sell it !
Nice!
For a significant group of riders, the K1300S is quite simply the finest motorcycle ever made. I am one of them, and still sometimes wheel out my Motorsport edition just to admire its unique combination of engineering, art and sculpture whilst supping a coffee. I do have a contingency fund set aside for the K, but cannot think of a better way of spending my shekels. Stupendous performance, long-distance comfort, pillion and luggage capability, 56mpg and - on the overrun - sounding like a Bristol Britannia turboprop approaching Heathrow. Some owners have bought 2nd and 3rd bikes as donors for future spares, knowing that there is nothing on the market now to compare with the Slant K, and nor is there ever likely to be. The 'hot start' kit needs fitting: the Duolever front end doesn't 'talk' to the rider like normal forks do, you just very quickly learn to trust it: the ESA can be replaced with conventional shocks when or if it fails : the paint on the engine and transmission is admittedly not up to normal BMW standards : and that cheap switchgear seems to still be fitted to new BMWs. Finally Andy, I can't believe that you think the snub nosed VFR1200 looks better? That's like saying pugs and Pekingese dogs look better than greyhounds and lurchers - get to Specsavers!
Well it's only personal preference - no right or wrong in that one!
I thought about selling my K13S MSport but changed my mind. Owned since 2016. Absolutely just can’t pull the trigger. Best looking and performing bike in its class. Still an open hole in the segment.
@@rumporridge1 I've owned two ZX14's, 1st and 2nd gen, both purchased new. I sold my 2nd gen many years ago and wanted another hyperbike and thought I was set on the gen 3 Busa. But didn't want to spend $20k. Started looking closely at the K1300S and pulled the trigger on a 2016 Msport with only 8,000 miles. Someone traded it in at a local dealer on lord knows what. I only paid $8500 and I think I stole it. Such a beautiful bike in every way.
56mpg? So 19litres should be 230+ miles, this is significant compared to the VFR12.
Currently on an old, but gold, Blackbird. Would you go for it in my position?
@@BRMCaptChaos Not to take anything away from the Blackbird, as it was a special bike in its day. It paved the way for bikes like the K1300S. But the BMW is better in every way.
Sorry, I have to put the old anorak on… It’s not got a TeleLever but a DuoLever front end, which I’d argue is the better way to do a no dive front end. Hats-off to Norman Hossak for being at the root of that innovation.
Love your reviews, I’ve watched them ever since I started riding. These used bike reviews are amazing. Keep it on !
Thank you - and thanks for the correction - you weren't the only one to point it out!
I was looking for this comment because I have one (2010 in the same color as the one in the video) and that threw me off too. The K13s has a DuoLever front suspension. and my R1100R has a Telelever front suspension.
@@CreativeFocus365 Never too nerdy ;-)
I had three k1300s bikes and loved every single one. Such a shame they stopped making them. For me it was a perfect combination of performance and touring ability. Went around Europe many times and enjoyed it blasting down the b-roads equally. Made me a life long BMW fanboy. Only problem I ever had was on the second bike with rear shock failing twice and leaving me stranded on the side of a french countryside road.
I own three of them. Wonderful bike. Comfortable, fast and safe handling.
Three? They break down _that much you need two spares?_ 🤔
This review was part of decision to get one of these bikes at the end of last year. Been an amazing journey so thanks for the info! Such an understated and unkown bike. Wasn't even on my radar. So glad i got it! With so little content of these bikes on youtube ive decided to document the journey on my own channel to contribute to its memories in the future ❤
Cool!
Thanks Missenden for your accurate review of the k1300s. Although limited with electronics compared with todays macnines, I too believe it "just enough". She rides as good as she looks, a smooth tourer with beautiful torque and comfort. The k1300s introduced in 2008 is redo of the k1200s originally introduced in 2004, styling and technology is approaching 20 years but I still love it. If anyone is interested consider picking a 2015 or 2016 Motorsports Edition which includes the latest features of this model's production run.
If they would have put throttle by wire on the bike it could have cruise control plus perhaps an adjustable wind screen.
Absolutely the best bike I’ve had. Owned blades, R1,s speed triples, streets. This ticks every box.
Only if all those blades,r1s etc. had absolute noobs as drivers. No way you will make a pass on me and my 23 street triple on curvy roads
@@CommerzTVim sure he means overall. Youre right and theres also no way you'd keep up in a straight line or be able ride as long as he could on his K1300s. Every bike has its strengths. His weighs 569lbs, has ESA, a comfortable seat, a deeper seating position, higher bars. You can go further in more comfort. Luckily it also has 175hp and 103ft-lbs of torque too.
@@CommerzTVbut i love your spirit! I was a sport bike loyalist until my body couldnt go far in that position anymore without a lot if pain and serius numbness in my right thumb and the two fingers next to it within a short time on a sport bike. Not too safe or fun.
Lovely too see the legend being the k1300s , these bikes have a huge following and a bit of a hidden gem , hopefully you managed to explore the true power and handling of these epic bikes , if i had known a k1300s was going to be on the channel i would have loved to have given you my HP version which with the akra can makes a big difference along with factory quickshifter ect , but was great to see this bruiser on the channel and again another thumbs up for these older bikes that are actually affordable
Great review. I have the unfaired K1300R version. Have owned it for 14 years and 60k miles. Still as quick as most modern bikes. I struggle to get less than 50mpg. Have toured on it, been round the TT course without being overtaken, and dragged raced it with a 10.3 1/4 mile time. It's like riding an armchair, as one of my BMW S1000R riding mates puts it. I'll never part with it.
I had the anniversary version with a quick shifter for a few years they are epic bike linear power. Don’t hesitate to buy one.
The K-series is generally underrated IMO, the four cylinder engine suits the riding a lot of BMWs actually end up doing better than a boxer does! Whilst I admire the K1600 using a six cylinder engine it does make that bike a behemoth, whereas the K1300 could reasonably fit into naked and sport bike guises. To honest though I'm most intrigued by the K75 flying brick triple!
My friend has a K75 and loves it!
I rode the K100 bikes, in fact I owned all of the different models of the K100s. If you like power, you would not be satisfied with the K75. They were smooth engines and a little lighter but much slower. Short riders did like the K75C and RT low seat versions.
I have a red 2011 K1300S, love it. Far more nimble than people think but you have to muscle it a bit. Quickshifter is superb.I had 2 K1200S before this one so a bit biased! I honestly can’t think of another bike I’d want. Been around Europe loads of times on BMW K bikes, so reliable. I do my own spannering so dont stress about things going wrong. Saying that, very little has but I do tend to over service them. Lots of support forums out there for advice. I’ve found cost of parts comparable with other makes. Anybody thinking of buying one, just do it.
I had a 2009 “Tri-color” K1300S for a number of years and thought it was a great bike but definitely needed a cruise control. My friends referred to it as “The gentleman’s Hayabusa”. Lol
A nice review TMF. It doesn't have a telelever front suspension though. It has duo-lever, which is basically a further development of a John Hossack suspension system design. I've owned both and think its better personally.
Yes - as you can imagine Many people have corrected me on that! Thanks for watching…
Do you think he is a natural blonde
@2:32 'How does she ride?'.. 'Well in a word, very nicely'.. :) I like that bike a lot.
Nice to see you review this. I think these days these bikes are very underrated. Equipment-wise they're up to current scratch unless you're a tech geek that always needs every latest piece of tech you can get. Power-wise enough said. Comfort-wise still current (not much has changed in a couple of decades unless you pay for aftermarket seat/suspension).
You mentioned there's 'nothing too complicated' but under the skin (I've completely torn down and rebuilt 2 of these) they're quite complex, which IMO is typical BMW and a drawback, which I presume is why they don't hold their value. If you can pay someone else to do the work when needed they're a nice bike to ride.
I also own a R1150RT and the K1300S feels like a lightweight after that monster. EDIT: I'll add that the throttle response is so good and predictable that you don't need riding modes
Agreed I had k1300 and was very fast but uncomfy and very complex to maintain
I have k1300 ‘09 , I bought it last year, great bike, soo much power and still smooth ride, under the 6l/100km with normal ride. But still expensive for maintenance…
I absolutely love my 30th Anniversary, took it to Norway (from Yorkshire) and back in a week last year - phenomenal bike for massive miles.
Sounds a great trip! Which ferry crossinbg did you use?
@@TheMissendenFlyer we went Hull to Rotterdam, then rode up through Holland to Germany up to Puttgarden, caught a short ferry there to Rodby in Denmark. From Rodby to Copenhagen and an overnight ferry to Oslo which was fantastic - flat calm water and you could watch Sweden drift by for hours. From Oslo we rode up to the Trollstigen - amazing road in the Fjords. The way back we came through Sweden, Gothenberg and stopped in Malmo, then rode over the Oresund bridge back to Rodby etc.
Thanks very much for this review. It’s one of the very few solid reviews of the K13S on CZcams.
My pleasure!
Every single K1300s on eBay/auto trader has now just sold!😂 Keep up the good work, TMF
Hi and thanks for all the good info.I got a 09 tri color and luv my ride. As I was watching this video ,it reminded me that not too many other (new or old) bike would I switch for!
Great package and the power and comfort is addictive and competitive even compared with new rigs.
As u can tell 5 stars from me.
Cheers for reminding me of a great choice for MY NEEDS.
100% right no need rto spend $ tons to get quality and safety .
All the best from Newfoundland
Chuck
I have the 2009 GT version of this bike that I bought new. It has everthing I need. Just enough modern tech and loads of power and very comfortable and it has been reliable. No need to trade up and paid for long ago! Great review Mr Flyer!
Great vid Andy, what i like about these vids is they prove you don`t need to spend a fortune to get a great bike. You`ve reviewed some really stunning bikes at really affordable prices. It`s only snobbery that drives people to buy extremely expensive brand new machines, yet for a fraction of the price, you can buy a sound 10 year old, very low mileage machine in mint condition, that will do everything a very expensive brand new machine will do, but without the hassle of having to run them in.
Keep them coming.
Will do be Neil - thanks…
Loving the older bike reviews. Everyone can't afford the latest models, so really appreciate these videos
I’ve had one for 2 years now l love it performance is great also good on fuel thanks for video
My pleasure!
This is so inspiring - I'm re-evaluating my wish list to consider some bikes which aren't the latest and greatest. And this is especially useful these days with costs going up, we really need to have a good look at where we can save some money but still have some fun!
Lovely engine, and tons of power. Sadly BMW had other plans and decided to go with a 6 cylinder engine. This range, including the R and the GT had something of a reputation - switchgear failing regularly, poor paint finish (you don’t see many today without bubbling corrosion all over the shaft drive housing), a radiator design that meant that unless you flushed it out regularly gunk would collect at the bottom and the bike would overheat (and it turns hot, especially in town) and a weird heavy grinding clutch feel. Be prepared to shell out on maintenance! My favourite was the GT and even today it’s a better, lighter tourer than the K1600 and proven to have better low end torque too. The unique dual link front suspension makes for a lovely ride quality. If only they made the S1000XR a little less aggressive it could almost be a worthy successor…
Had the same problem with the hot start and the clutch vibes is because its a dry single plate...if them problems we're ironed out I would still have mine 👍👍
@@paulcanham9604 Clutch is wet multi-plate on the K13 - any problems were due to insufficient oil supply.
I had one of these for a few years, a wonderful bike. Watch out for faulty electrically adjustable rear shocks as they are non re-buildable and cost a fortune to replace. You'll also need an iron discipline on your right hand as the quick shifter is addictive and will get you into a lot of trouble with the boys in blue as crazy speeds feel like you're barely coasting.
You can get front and rear shock serviced and repaired by two very reputable company in the UK.
That's good to hear, wasn't available when I had mine.
Hi my friend. I purchased a couple of these bikes new. A 2010 in granite gray, black, red and another fancy 2013 anniversary model in white, red, black. I've thoroghly enjoyed both bikes touring and general sport riding. Reliability has been excellent with only a recall on both for the left switchgear replacement. I don't recall anything else breaking or wearing out except battery and tires. Even as an older design, they will still run (or outrun) most newer model bikes of 1000cc or larger. For sport touring, still waiting for something better to be released.
Another great review - the only bike I regret selling!
Good review, I owned one for over 3 years and I do miss it. I did thousands of miles on it, including over 1000 miles in under 19 hours. I part exchanged it for a diabolical Ducati and regretted it within the first 6 months. Yes the clutch is heavy, but you do get used to it. I fitted an MRA Touring screen with the secondary 'wing' which made a massive difference. Those panniers when extended, you then pull the ratchet locks out, lock in to place to secure it then push any 'spare' back into the hard plastic, these gave a flexability.
Got a 2016 Motorsport. I may be getting older and it is heavy to maneuver but it's not going anywhere.
I just picked up a 2012 K1300S. I think you are correct regarding one of the reasons they d/c's this bike (Euro4 emissions mandate 2017). Thought about a K1600 but could not wrap myself around the additional 200 lbs and complexity/cost of repairs. Thanks for the justification for a picking up this as a second bike!
Thanks for the review
I bought a 2012 K1300S 3 years ago with 68000 miles. My mileage is now 82600 miles without any trouble. There is a known issue of difficult start when the engine is warm. It can be fixed with a specific electrical kit availableon Internet (the starter cable needs to be doubled).
It is a great bike for touring with a lot of Torque and also a red zone at 11000 rev/min which can be a challenge for your driver license.
The only drawback I noticed so far is the heat of the engine when you drive in Cities in summer. This might not be he best bike for commuting but is a hell of a ride on road.
Had a couple, last being the Motorsport edition with the forged allow wheels, effortlessly fast, stable better built than later BMWs, thoroughly reliable and surprisingly cheaper to service than the boxer engined bikes!
I have a 2010 version of this bike in the same color and it is an amazing machine. I have added green accents, including all of the fairing bolts painted green and added carbon fiber accents. The ride is fantastic! I grabbed mine as a project bike that needed some rescuing. It is now complete and running great. It is a luxury bike! Like you mentioned, a bit weighty but very well balanced due largely to the positioning of the engine with the cylinders canted forward. One detail... The front suspension on the K1300 is a Duolever rather than a Telelever BUT it is still a super smooth suspension.
Another half an hour span on the Superbike website. I'm being inspired to clear up the garage a little to make space for a second bike again.
You can do it!
I'm normally not a fan of BMWs, but that is one lovely looking bike.
Great review sir. My 2015 K1300S was bought mostly out of intrigue in the riding position. The aerodynamics of the screen actually pushes my shoulders back and supports my upper body at anything over 30 mph. The panniers are small (and yes, they do expand but looks ungainly), there is no top box (available in the GT version) and looks ridiculous with a large roll top bag on the back when touring. The kerbside appeal is the view you shared when doing the stats- it is a fantastic looking bike, goes like stink (if you need it), super comfortable when churning out the miles and, for me, it is more sports than touring but with a modest sized roll top bag, it is perfect for the long weekend trip.
Rumour has it that BMW R&D were busy around 2016 with an update to the S1000 engine but more focus was on the development of Shift Cam technology for the R1250 engine. There was no resource available to update the K1300 engine for compliance with Euro 5 emissions.
Keep up the content and RSMF.
Thank you - will try my best!
Thank you Andy,this video made me go for one .Got it last week.What a great machine.
Congratulations’
Great review Andy. Brought back memories of the two of these I had from new a few years back. Great sports tourer with bags of go, planted and comfortable. Shame they were discontinued.
IMO The best bike BMW ever produced - Like a lot of manufacturers when they have a winnning formula they suddenly stop production. Another example would be the Triumph 1050 ST
Yes odd that isn't it - I guess emissions rule are the problem...
Nice review Andy. 👍
I had a K1200S back in 2005/06 which was the fore runner to the K1300S, but apart from the extra engine capacity, that was the only difference between them. BMW initially had a number of engine problems with the first K1200S's on launch and rumour has it they went to Porsche to help them with that engine. I believe it was the first road bike engine to use finger tappets between the cams and the valves, like what is used in F1 engines now, and most high performance supercar engines made today. The K series engines are very smooth and powerful and also very mechanically quiet. I bought mine 9 months after the updated model came out with all the engine issues fixed. It was a truly wonderful bike and wished I hadn't sold it, but a crash on another bike, a Yamaha MT-01, put me out of motorcycling for nearly 2 years, hence the K1200S was sold...
Oh dear - glad to note you appear fully recovered!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes, and thanks. All fully recovered and been riding again since 2008. Good to see these big 4 pot BMWs are still great bikes. 👍
Got one also, in Lava Orange and I am not letting go of it. I note, you missed the fun part on upshifts.. they have a nice quickshifter which would have been fun on the dual carriageway. But yeah, stunning bike, my family adore my one.. probably going to end up being an heirloom.
I love my 2010 K1300s in Lava Orange. Brilliant bike that has aged very well imo.
They called the front suspension Duolever which was a design similar to the newer Goldwing. Hossack as I recall.
Yes my bad - many have corrected me in the comments!
Good review, I concur it is a massively overlooked bike and was technically advanced for it's era - is a pity BMW discontinued it as they have not made anything quite like it since (shaft drive, torque for days -with- top end fizz not found in boxers). I took my old K1300S up to 60 something thousand miles before a gearbox issue (would skip out of gear accelerating hard in 1st) and then a weird judder after a clutch replacement that I was assured was normal started to take the joy out of it. So with all my lessons learnt I went and got a low mile K1300R (prefer the naked styling, also at 6'2'' the S windscreen didn't actually do much) and have been enjoying that since.
Tips for 2nd hand buyers:
-Look closely for corrosion on driveshaft/underside of engine
-Stand next to it and with front brake on give the front end a shake back/forth, shouldn't be any knocking etc
-If an ESA model check closely for any errors and that it raises ride height slightly on sport vs comf
-If you tour, try and find one with the hard luggage, its costly to purchase by itself and is hands down the best luggage option for these
-Try and get one with the quickshifter and/or Akrapovic can, together they're the most fun you can have with your clothes on (pops and bangs like a GP bike)
Tips for new owners:
-If the fuelling feels way off/it stalls as you clutch in and stop at lights this is probably a clogged crank case breather pipe
-If it starts to become hesitant to start on the button and there is no activity from starter/cranking (assuming battery has charge etc) this is a sign the rightside switchgear is failing, change it before it strands you
-Changing the brake discs is a pig of a job. If you have a low tolerance for for torx bits snapping/the heads of bolts turning to mush just give it to BMW. I'd say just use aftermarket disc bolts for the front but I think half the reason the OEM ones have such an odd profile is the confined space they're working in (they're M8x27 with threadlock pre-applied and the head is like 15mm across but only takes a T30 torx bit.. go figure). The rear bolts are more reasonable sized/don't disintegrate, but, are accessed from the shaft side of the disc (again BMW engineers showing their trademark duality between brilliance and.. not so much), via a recess that's not really big enough to avoid contact with the driveshaft casing.. to avoid gouging the driveshaft casing I found that getting a long torx bit then whittling down the hex extrusion so it was smooth and putting tape on the driveshaft left it unmarked.
-BMW warranties the ESA shocks at each end to 30k miles, if/when they fail, BMW only offer full replacement as a recourse which is astronomical money - however in the UK you can ship them/drop them into Firefox Racing up near Bradford for an OEM level rebuild.
-this list isn't exhaustive.. drop a comment for any specific queries!
Wow, great tips, thanks for taking the time to write that lot!
Wonderful couple. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Don’t know what it is with you “flyers” but I can’t stop watching. Simon, Vulcan 1700 nomad rider, who wants a K1300S
Cool - thanks for watching
Great bike I have had a K1200s and now have K1300r, awesome machines both of them however they are stupidly expensive to repair, even changing spark plugs is a royal pain, however an amazing bike and bang for buck wise can't be beaten, great review though.
Thank you!
I own a 2007 K1200S as a daily ride (not using the Panigale V4 for that). It’s the pretty cool silver/black blue one. I must say, it is the best allrounder I’ve ever ridden. I’m going to ride it until it breaks down permanently, but it’s been extremely reliable so that may take a while… Might look at a late K1300 after that, pretty gutted that BMW never made a proper replacement. The K1200/1300S was a brilliant bike.
When you said it was handsome I had to check I was watching the same video, it looks disproportionately stretched out to my eye. Thanks again TMF, good review as always.
When the K series when to six cylinders and 1600cc many just realized the fun was over.
It is a shame that they don't make these anymore. I think that they would sell very well. Great bike. Powerwise and handlingwise just not for everyone. Got my like.
Cool thanks
I have a 2009 and it’s great. Haters hate on it and until they ride it
Thanks for the review, Andy! I've always wondered about these bikes, they seem great.
I'm also a channel member for over 4 years now, we're going strong haha
Thanks for sticking with me Rutger - appreciate it!
Great bike! I was supposed to buy one ten years ago but after a track weekend with my old bike I bought a sportsbike and spent years having fun on tracks. Finally it is now time for a K1300S that I will pick up tomorrow and I hope we will have a long dry warm autumn here in Sweden before we go into winter mode. 👍😀
Enjoy!
We got dry and sunny weather, and at least ten degrees centigrade, both Sunday and today so I took the opportunity and rode it. It is really a great bike! I had forgot how much power there is, it just keep coming! I just love it!
Love Saturday mornings, just back from hour and a half jaunt around quiet roads got a sausie sandwich, a huge cup of tea, the Missenden Flyer and peace and quiet because everyone else still in bed.... perfection 😊
Sounds good to me Stewart
They are a great bike when they are running. Unfortunately, they have a reputation for being very expensive to repair, and it is well deserved.
Please excuse the ad hominem, but I too learned the hard way Big Money Wanker makes great bikes . . . but, $10 parts can too easily turn into $1000 repairs. On the other hand, if your other hand knows how to use tools they may be the most frugal purchases available.
Second this. My K1300S has to get its ball joint replaced in around 3000-5000km and it's just a 40€ part. Repair will cost between 400€ and 1000€, as almost the entire front has to be disassembled, the joint is screwed and glued in and if something gets damaged almost the entire telelever has to be replaced. fun times.
@@Th3Grimmi if it is glued get it plenty hot and that helps
@@robedmunds7163 I know, but the issue is that its not unlikely that the part it's screwed into gets damaged in the process of removing the joint. And that part is expensive
Hard to compare to any other bike, what bikes from that era had this kind of performance + electronic suspension etc?
The engines are bombproof if you know how to change oil, never had issues with my K1200R
and im at around 90.000 KM :) Been a cheap bike to own for me
Not massive milage, but it rides like new to be honest
Had 1200s and then 1300s both great bikes . Keep the videos coming .
Thanks, will do!
Great review, had my 2010 for a couple of years now and love it, although it is heavy, the quality and power, plus fuel economy (50 ish mpg) and comfort is outstanding, great to see you did this review as there aren't many on CZcams and always wondered why cos the bike deserves more attention
Couldn't agree more!
I had the red, white and black version. What an eye stopper.! It was heavy through the twisties which was the reason I went back to the twin RS'S., but for long distances it was super. The only thing that was hard to get use to was that if you sneezed it would instantly gain 20 mph. Lol. The 175 hp never suffered because of it's weightiness. Wish I still owned it, but 3 is my limit. The 👍👍🏍🏍🏍🙋♂️
I have one from 2008 and I am satisfied with only a small problem with the ABS sensor, it has 99000km, best regards👍👌
Ok 👏
nice little vlog Andy i still think it looks currant today and has aged well and that engine sounds sweet .👍👍
The front suspension is actually called “Duolever”. It is different to the GS/RS. It is a development of the Hossack front suspension.
Indeed….
These kind of reviews are increasingly useful for people who ( such as myself ) can't even get insured on high value bikes because we live in London, in my case , or I imagine a lot of major cities
Interesting comments. I just bought a 2010 model; I am based in SW France and drove up to Cologne to collect it as found a dealer who was professional. I saw the R90S in 1974 when I collected my CB250 K4 back in 1975 in the beautiful silver / orange livery so when the K13 came out in Candy Orange in 2009 as an hommage, that was me sold. I cant go into my garage now without staring at it, just stunning. Slowly gaining confidence on as since as you say the weight needs respect but one she is rolling, its very stable. Only think I find is the throttle is very sensitive, maybe just me. Anyway, loving it, thanks again for the review
Thank you for watching Paul!
That wrap-around fairing you found surprising was the norm from the mid 80s up to about a decade ago. When the Kawasaki GPZ 900R launched in about 1984 it set a major trend (a bit like the GS would do for adventure bikes) for faired sportsbikes, some called them superbikes, race-reps, sports-tourers, whatever. The fairings certainly made bikes more aerodynamic and improved performance and comfort providing you were happy to tuck-in behind the bubble screen. I had several. The only problem was that these bikes were/are very front-end focused (to keep you straight at twice the speed limit+) and it was fairly easy to drop them because if the front wheel slides you just can't hold it up. Then came the issue of getting the fairing repaired, resprayed, etc. Expensive. I became familiar with the art of "plastic welding". The fairings certainly kept all the road muck off the bike and cleaning became easy - a quick sponge-over would do. Over the last decade the rise of nakeds, retros & adventure bikes has made full fairings almost a rare sight.
I bought a 2013 30th anniversary edition 2 months ago and love it . I come from a naked to maxi scooter back ground and hadnt ridden a manual in 20 months,however its so easy to ride i never stall it as the bike just wants to go. Effortlessly power full and so much torque you can ride it lazy or get on it and use the up quickshifter and hit 3 figures so easily on a track of course. Its a bit wristy to what im used to but its ok im averaging 48.7 mpg and a motorway run i think 220 -250 miles is possible . Tha cowl on the bottom is red on mine so would think its standard on all . Keep up the great work andy 👍
I will if you keep watching!
@@TheMissendenFlyer absolutely mate
Great review Andy, I've had 3 of these over the years in the different styles, K1200R Sport, K1300S and K1300R such a gorgeous silky engine, you could take your CBT on it the fuelling is so smooth,.
I have a 2010 r version of this bike and I absolutely would say its the best bike I've ever ridden.
Love the video and what you do TMF.
Great to hear! Thank you for the kind words...
I have the 2014 Red and White Anniversary Edition. Picked it up with 400 miles and rode it home 2000 miles in 3 days. 10 years later, she has almost 70K miles on the clock, and my mechanic says I can squeeze out another 50K. With scheduled maintenance, she's never put a spark out of place, never left me stranded, never overheated, or failed to start. Not even a flat tire. For 10 years, I've looked for a better bike and still haven't found it.
Nice one - why change?
Fantastic example my friend.
Had a K1200S which did 80,000 km before an expensive electrical failure. Looked to replace with an S1000XR but not that impressed with the vibration. Found a 2015 K1300S which had only 2600km on it and bought that. Very happy with it - while it is not the most exciting bike (most
Of my bikes are Ducati) it is great at crushing distances and in bad weather. I added the full Akrapovic system to mine as they can be found cheap now the bike is not in production. This supposedly adds 10th but gives it a much better sound and saves 20lbs and the carbon can is much cooler. The other great accessory for these bikes is the rear bag that sides and locks onto the rear rack. Big one adds 55l and fastens with just two buckles. Only supposed to do 140km/h but mine has stayed on at much higher speeds that that.
Great review, as you say you don’t need to spend big bucks to get a premium quality motorcycle. I recently purchased a 2003 BMW R1150 rt with 23k miles for £1700 and it’s been a revelation and a eye opener to what amazing budget bikes are out there for the price of some accessories on top end bikes.
I agree. Just bought a 16,000 mile 2002 r1150r in showroom condition for not much more. Very capable bike !!
The quick shifter is great - up shifting with the engine popping - great bike.
On my 3rd!!
cool - you're obviously a fan!
I had a 30 th anniversary model wish I had never of traded it in. If I could find it now I would buy it straight back. It’s a lovely bike. I love my GS but I’d love to have this aswell
Great presentation, thank you.
The K1300 was a great engine and BMW made excellent Bikes with it until they introduced the 6 cylinder 1600.
The K1300S was a wonderful Sporttourer, but unfortunately it had a strong competitor with Yamaha's FJR 1300, which sold significantly better in Europe.
So great memory refresher. 👍🏼
I had a K1300S for a couple of years, as I think I said in a separate comment.
I had only two problems. The first was overheating in the summer. Never really tracked that down but the radiator guard does sometimes get full of mud. The other problem was blistering of the shaft drive bevel housing. That and the forks seem to go on higher mileage models.
Other than that, I had tens of thousands of happy riding out of it.
At 50mpg!
Sounds good!
Nice review, such great bikes. On my 3rd which I plan to keep. Surprised you did not mention the awesome quickshifter which makes the bike sound like an old school F1 racer or F111 jet when you hit the higher revs! 😁
....I'm pretty sure I did mention the quickshifter (in that I wasn't sure if it had one!!)
That's quite funny! If you ever get the chance to try one again, you really MUST use it! Its silky smooth and like riding a bike with an auto gearbox! Keep up the good work! 😁👍@@TheMissendenFlyer
Cheers Andy! Always enjoy your insightful reviews. Please continue introducing "bargain" bikes, for someone like myself these new bikes nowadays are beyond my financial means. It is a stunning tourer, but I like to work on my bikes and BMW is known for needing a "special" mechanic and repairs are usually quite costly. Anyhoo, a rainy summer we've had indeed and lots of insects to chew on! All the best, safe riding!
Sorry to be a pedantic ass, but that's the Duolever suspension, not Telelever. The Telelever on the GS has the telescoping fork tubes and a single control arm. Duolever has two control arms and the forks are solid forgings, a lot like the new Goldwing's suspension. Nice review and I do think it's a shame it's no longer made, but I suspect GS sales killed it off.
Yes a few have mentioned the front end - I tsgould stick to "funny BMW front end"
I love these old reviews of great bikes, would love it if you could review a Honda CB 1300, and maybe compare it to your Z900
Have a K1200rs with a working abs. That bike can take a drop pretty well. A scratch but always back without needing a fix. A buddy has the k1300. One drop and the side panel needed replacement and his abs stopped working. Apparently few options here in the States to get fixed.
I had one and loved the solidity of the bike and its super secure high speed mode. Commuting 100 miles down the M40 there was no better machine. However, with an aftermarket exhaust I just felt the bike was laughing at me. “Is that the best you can do?”, it would ask, even as I tried to ride it as hard as possible. I swapped it for a KTM adventure bike. Kind of wish I had kept it.
I owned its predecessor the K1200S and loved the bike....powerful and comfortable. I recall it being thirsty and it tended to hunt a bit at slow speeds on small throttle openings, but I think BMW sorted the fuelling out with the K13. Yes, that fairing lower panel was standard. Overall, it was a great bike, but buyers need to be aware that it eats tyres and the servicing costs are steep, primarily due to the amount of bodywork that needs removing. Great video as always. Thanks.
Yes a few have mentioned the servicing costs - hadn't thought of that!
Had 2 of these bikes back to back and had vibes in both, hand numbing if ridden long enough. So super smooth i wouldn't say. Good solid bikes with good quickshifter. Traded last one in for a New Kawasaki Zh2 , now we are talking smooth and super powerful plus much more comfortable riding position . Made k1300S feel slow and sluggish. When you doing a review of the ZH2 ??
No plans currently but you never know! Thanks for watching….
Great review as always Andy, we've not met yet but it's like I know you by now, the way you flow through these reviews effortlessly makes for super easy watching.
This bike has gone under my radar and if it wasn't for the fact it has no cruise control I would want it as much as I want an FJR1300 although to be fair those had none up to 2013.
See ya for the next one mate, cheers, MB.
Cheers! ….and thanks for watching and stopping by…
My '09 GT has cruise control...
Brilliant old school sport tourer with shaft drive, I was a Blackbird man. I moved onto adventure bikes for comfort but interested in the RS next time. Forgot that it had the telelever front end but it’s a hell of an engine….
Thanks mate, ive got a black 2013 model with 70000 miles to wich i am addicted.
These bikes are in fact incredible bang for the buck, and pretty widely available. I had the pleasure of bike-sitting a 2010 k1300gt a few summers back and really enjoyed it.
While the package is BIG and designed more for zapping horizons vs carving up twisties there’s a lot to love. The inline motor definitely does deliver more of its punch up top, vs the boxer, of course, but man does it pull. As noted, it’s just a smooth ride overall. The GT also had hard luggage and an electric windscreen.
I ended up on an R1100s as I prefer the boxer and a sprightlier feel, but renting a k1600b earlier this year has me thinking that I might like to have one of these around for highway strafing and longer cross country tours. There was recently a pristine S model for sale nearby, low miles, low price. These bikes won’t be overlooked for much longer imo - thanks MF!
My pleasure!
I have the 2013 anniversary edition, use if for work as well as pleasure, 1000 ish miles a month minimum. Its approaching 50k miles & never missed a beat in the 2 years ive had it.
I saw one of the old red and yellow K1 being ridden around recently. It actually looked quite cool. He had the matching K1 helmet as well. 😂
About the length of a narrow boat though 😋
A great review Andy , I sold my 2010 model recently and I do miss it. I did 30k miles on it including several tours , it was very reliable and only needed standard servicing . Did use a fair bit of fuel especially when used around town . It was a great bike to own .
I spent a day on a K1300S back when they were new. I really liked it. The price was the only thing standing in the way. I ended up with a Honda VFR1200F, which is probably the only direct competition when you think of an open class shaft drive single sided swing arm sport tourer. Main reason was they knocked $5k off the price in the US for poor sales. I think it's also better looking and shifts better. Both great bikes.
Yes I love the big VFR too - no idea why it flopped in the market, I think it's a great machine!
Love these reviews, so glad you enjoy doing them :)
I do indeed!