George Lucas BACKLASH IS BAD - My RAW Thoughts
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2024
- Regardless what George Lucas says publicly about his friend Bob Iger, we need to keep it respectful. He still is the man who created this entire galaxy, and we cannot forget that or be vulgar to him. George always has a reason behind the things he says, and the things he does, I trust him, and maybe he's being a little political, while telling Bob Iger his true thoughts behind closed doors (I hope).
That said, I would have loved for him to vocally say that Disney has taken Star Wars in another direction, however, it wasn't about Star Wars, it was about Disney's operation of, well, Disney.
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for people unfamiliar with the stock stuff - $1.8B that George received in 2012 (in stock) should be ~$4.5B today.
But it's not because Disney has been losing money hand over fist since then. Lucas's stock will be worth less now than it was then 😂🤡
@@The_Stranger1986 no 1.8b in stock from 2012 is worth that much now. It worth way more now because it was at the beginning of Marvel blowing up and all three Star Wars and Disney plus all Garbage was still highly profitable only the few Movies are in the negative. Disney stock hasn't took that big of a hit from it especially it you factor the last Decades growth.
He received 37.1 mil stocks of disney, but nobody knows how much stocks he still owns. My search pointed out, that he has less than 9.9mil as hes not listed as a major shareholder. Though 9mil is still a big number to be counted with in the voting.
@@The_Stranger1986Nope, at leas not in near future, he received the stocks at the price around 50 USD per share, They went down to like 80 if i remember, so still hes not in red numbers with his stocks. The question nobody can prove to me is how much out of the 37.1mil he still owns.
@@DarkShadowReign Bro they've been declining for years now. The stock price has gone down massively 😂 what are you saying?
I want a vote of no confidence for Chancellor Valorum... i mean Bob Iger
I second that motion.
i third that motion
Do you not know the context of the situation?
I fourth that notion
I fifth that
I am honestly not surprised by Lucas' comments. At this stage he is just spending time with his family, he is checked out, and probably not in the mood to break any eggs. He just wants to enjoy his retirement in peace, and his Disney investment to continue paying off. Who knows what he actually believes when it comes to Star Wars, I really doubt he likes the state in which it is at, this particular response really has nothing to do with that.
How casual and flighty fanbase is about about turning on him is why he's checked out and why he sold to Disney.
Without a doubt, there's probably scripts/artwork/notes that Lucas has within his home with how he would have wanted Star Wars to continue... we'll never know what are within his archives.
@@thenightingale7405 Exactly.
Agreed, this was strategy to keep favors and pay flowing. The master you know is better than the master you don’t know.
That and the fact that he has a lot of shares on the company. It is not wise to bash something you own. I believe he doenst have the energy to fight fights he doesnt need to. Disney SW is not his SW and he better than everyone knows it.
I would love to see a real George critique on the sequels. Not mean spirited, just an honest critique that goes in depth
I genuinely believe he lost all love for Star Wars after the prequel backlash and sold it to Disney as a result. Now he is basically like “this is what you wanted isn’t it?”
@@officialthomasjames I think the prequels have their own issues, they're fine, but I think we can all take a step back after 20 years and think about how different the quality is between George's star wars to Disney star wars movies...
Tv shows are a different story. I loved Andor, I'd love to see what George thinks of it too
Best prequel review is by Mr. Plinket.
I would love to see George Lucas give his opinion on the Toxic Fandom in "STAR WARS".
I am pretty sure that he would not be siding with all of the toxic people that were insulting and disrespecting Daisy Ridley and Kelly Marie Tran just because they didn't like both the characters they played and the Sequel Trilogy.
I think people forget that Lucas genuinely enjoyed Rogue One and The Last Jedi. He's even been there to cheer on Dave and John with the Mandalorian. Yeah, the Sequels may not have gone the way he envisioned, but it seems pretty clear that he doesn't "HATE" the current state of things either.
It's like Chancellor Leía endorsing Jabba the Hutt😂
Leia: Even though Jabba The Hutt forced me to be his slave and tried to throw my friends, boyfriend, and brother into the Sarlacc pit, I endorse him so much.
That sentence confused me
@@GunsAndAmmo3 Legends. New Republic Chancellor Organa Solo
@@joerents7902 I don't remember that lil bro
It's easy to endorse Jabba The Hutt after killing him.
Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Indy wasn’t a time traveler. It was Indy growing up and his interaction with events that would later be historic- like riding with Poncho Villa.
If you watch the 1970 movie Young Winston, based on the real youthful adventures of Winston Churchill, I think that you will see a similar concept to the Young Indiana Jones TV series/edited movies
@@iakona23 George was probably “inspired” by it.
@@redbellpeppers well I have the DVD sets of the Young Indiana Jones series. Sometimes the writing has a leftist bias (like when Pancho Villa was portrayed as some sort of romantic hero even though he crossed into New Mexico and slaughtered American civilians!) but overall I really liked the series. They would film on location all over the world, hire a full orchestra for the original soundtrack music, basically spare no expense for what was a TV show with pretty limited viewership. And Lucas commissioned many hours of educational videos for the DVD set to educate students about historical figures and events.
I thought it was rather boring and a bit depressing at times
@@iakona23 I remember the show fondly. I was just pointing out that Indy wasn’t a time traveler and never met Abraham Lincoln.
And if you have the DVD’s then you are fortunate enough to have Old Indy.
He wants his stocks to be good lol. I mean it’s his $$$.. doesn’t mean he thinks Disney Star Wars is good. I agree with theory
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Right so he’s lying about his true feelings so he can make more money. Pretty weak, especially for a man that already has enough money to set his family up for generations.
There’s zero chance he thinks this garbage is good. Who really does?
It has nothing to do with any of that. Read my comments.
If he wants his stocks to be good, please explain your logic on why he's selling them to disney if he doesn't think their products are good.
My dude, I respect George immensely, but he does not know best.
He knows what is best for the story of Star Wars. That’s all.
He should never have entrusted his great work to a corporate suit like Bob, even if he trusted him. Signing away your life’s work is a recipe for losing the soul of your creation.
We, and George himself, are left to live with the fallout of his stupid decision to sell out to Disney.
He should have signed a temporary deal.
And he is entirely responsible for the awful decision to entrust the "creative direction" of his story to Kathleen Kennedy.
@@Trollificusv2 You mean Darth Kennedy 😂
Maybe it seems stupid to us… but to George it’s the most lucrative deal in Hollywood.
The actual statement was clearly made by PR. Lucas just publicly took a side in a proxy war. Also, it’s not “Iger or Peltz”. Peltz wants seats on the board, not Iger’s job. He clearly has reasons to think that it will negatively impact Disney and their stock. Whether or not you agree is a different matter
That’s what makes me wonder if Star Wars is just better off being owned by Elon Musk with a Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau executive producer and chief creative officer Dave Filoni clause.
Whats most egregious about what George said is his statement about how "creating magic is not for amateurs". That was a deliberate statement, and a hypocritical one since George himself was so firmly against Hollywood when he made Star Wars. I mean he literally called Disney white slavers for God sake. Regardless if he himself or some intern wrote that statement, George still owns it since its in his name. He absolutely sold out to Disney in that statement, and its honestly just really devastating to hear him defebd Bob Iger after what his leadership has brought.
He's been silent on Disneys handling of Star Wars for years now. This was his chance to make a public statement, especially with Peltz's challenge to the board. At the very least he couldve just not said anything, I cant imagine beung silent would've been a bad option. The fandom held out such a tiny but important sliver of gope in George, not that hed come back but at least that he laments what Disney has done. But thats out the window now.
Ummmm...George sold out to Disney years ago...he dosen't care anymore nor should he...
Don't forget that he's really, really old now. He's not fightin' any battles, however betrayed he may have felt 10-15 years ago.
I’d pretend to like Disney for 4.5 billion
The actual words are probably not him. He’s merely picking a side in the proxy battle, which, as a shareholder, is his job to make the choice best for Disney’s stock. Because he has such an influence, he probably consented to have a PR statement made in his name. Simple as that
Being positive and hopeful is good. Being positive to the point of self delusion is not.
Star Wars fans should always be hopeful, especially with all the good projects that have been coming out
Can we be real here. The fandom as a whole treated Lucas absolutely terribly in the 2000s. I don't think the man gives a shit about how we feel anymore and I can't blame him. Does he still love his creation and does it hurt how it's being handled? Probably but he doesn't owe us anything, there's nothing he can really do about it so protecting his stock and telling the world, 'fuck you I got mine' is understandable at this point. The same people screaming that he betrayed Star Wars are probably the same people pissed at him in 2008 after the prequels or at the launch of Clone Wars lol.
Underrated comment
I kind of doubt it given the fact I actually see very little remnants of the supposed mass hatred of the prequels, people were still going hard for star wars of the time and while there were certainly more bad reviews by comparison to the originals, there’s far less that I could find of people genuinely hating it. Just people saying the hate was there. Compared to the sequels, where people have not only talked at length about their issues and it’s extremely easy to find the dislike or hate of the new stuff.
There’s also that I’m not sure I’ve ever met anyone that actually hated the prequels (who wouldn’t dislike star wars already) but totally have those who do the sequels.
I think people have a right to be disappointed in his comments.
Many of us were heavily invested in the franchise growing up, I own over 200 EU books / comics, and it's been really sad to see what Disney has done to Star Wars.
Personally I have lost a little respect for Lucas, he already has a huge amount of money and he appears upset about Star Wars but at the same time doesn't appear to stick to his convictions where there's more money involved. Just seems greedy and weak.
THIS RIGHT HERE! 💯
I'm not a Disney fan or by any means but this here is the reality and emotional battle scars can last for a long time or stick with you your whole life.
Could've George been on our side? Sure but in the dark bitter end this is the final destination of the prequel bashing we never could've saw coming.
I think this is valuable lesson for future generations to just let an artist / creator cook and stop acting as if we know better than their imagination because of audience entitlement.
@DICEBOY22 sorry bud, but if I as a paying customer hate something I have the right to express my views. Be it StarWars or any other product on the market
"You Either Die a Hero, or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become the Villain"
George Lucas at this point probably doesn't give a shit about this whole situation anymore. So him backing his friend of many years, the person who helped build disney animation and Pixar is obviously a no brainer. Of course he's going to back him. From George's perspective he got to make half of his vision before fans turned on him, that combined with no family time is what got him to sell. Now those same fans, and new are doing the same thing to Disney. It's not about whether you think the films are good or bad, whst your opinion on George is, it doesn't matter. He doesn't give a shit anymore. And can you blame him. He's watched one of his children get de-mystified over the years and honestly cant do anything about it. He just wants to be left alone.
Yep. I think he simultaneously doesn’t care about Star Wars anymore and he may be somewhat happy that the fans hate the new “Star Wars” because, after the prequel reactions, he thinks it’s what we deserve
Or could say no
So correct...but with due respect to Lucas, thers a certain truth in the old line *once u go black u don't go back*
What happened with his child?
He gave a shit on SW since 1980/81
Not surprised, but I can’t co-sign his comments on “art being for amateurs”
He was an amateur filmmaker against all odds and battling against studio bureaucracy. He seems to have forgotten where he came from.
You seem to have forgotten it’s not your place to talk 💩 anymore. OT elitist are getting what you guys deserve.
An activist investor has nothing to do with content.
It just means that the investor gets enough of the stake of the company to effectuate change in the structure or running of the company.
So a passive investor just invests, & just hopes the stock does well, that's 99.999% of us.
An activist investor, buys a bunch of stock, gets on the board, gets involved in management of the company, hires & fires, & tries to change the direction of the company to increase its value.
Nathan Pelts has an unbelievable track record of increasing the value of company's. Probably the top guy of everyone in the industry right now.
Disney wants to keep doing business the same way & doesn't want anybody looking over their shoulder.
I hope he gets in. We need him. Lucas's stock is not significant enough to stop it. Peltz has a $14 bil investor in Disney that's thrown his stock to help Peltz.
Have a great day.
You want Petlz? Someone who would have refused making black panther 1 and 2? Perlmutter, whos backing Petlz, was fired because Kevin Feige was about to leave Marvel because Perlmutter wanted to slash the budget for Civil War. Peltz, who controlled Wendys and now that franchise is in the dumps. These people do not care about quality, not sure why you think that they do. They want to focus on short term investments and spend as little as possible.
@@battlefield0123 Black Panther 1 is a good enough movie, but it does symbolise Disney's problem. All black cast, all black crew... it's the "black" movie. Even Anthony Mackie called it racist, and he's paid by Disney. I don't fully get the causal mechanics, but there's definitely a correlation between their performative diveristy and bad quality movies. I'd generally agree about activist investors, but the current direction holds so little value for me, I'd just shrug and roll the dice
@battlefield0123 Almost every single thing you said was inaccurate.
Peltz never said he wouldn't make black panther, albeit it was an awful movie, divided the fan bases, & was the beginning of the downfall of Marvel.
He said, why does he need an all black cast, or an all woman cast, why cant it just include everyone. Makes sense to me & from a business standpoint.
Peltz has literally saved every company he's worked with, increased stock value, & the companies grew considerably.
Disney is one of the most mismanaged, underperforming media companies in the world. 6% is abysmally bad when interest rates are higher then that.
What was Wendy's market share & stock value when he stepped in, & when he left. Please include stock splits & bond issues...I'm waiting...
@@johnberger8817 Yea when youre a business shareholder all you care is about stocks, meaning the short term gains. Keep making them richer I suppose. And black panther divided the fan base? Who was divided? It grossed a billion dollars and it was reviewed well by the general audience and critics. I guess if you only look at stocks and you own stocks in Disney, Pelttz is your guy. But if you care about creativity and want Disney to create better products, Petlz is horrible.
Btw; Wendy’s shares have underperformed the S&P by 5.1% annually, and Wendy’s TSR has underperformed the S&P by 4.93% annually.
@@ian-flanagan A movie about a fictional movie set in Africa...has an all black cast..wow I'm shocked. Its not like the comics have little to none white people from Wakanda. Its not like Wakanda shielded themselves from Europeon colonists. Also, the movie literally had Klaue and Everette Ross, two white actors.
I get it, he's checked out and I don't blame him but I do find it odd what he said about "creating magic is not for amateurs". George himself was just an indie filmmaker who had only directed 2 small films before he made star wars which was on a much larger scale than what he had done before. And besides that it's not the like supposed experienced professionals at disney and lucasfilm have been doing a great job the last few years
Ya that statement is confusing because he doesn't clarify what he's referring to. I'm thinking he was talking about the business side of a massive company. Because this isn't about making good content. It's all about picking a head of the company based on who they think will raise their shares by making it more profitable. That's how I see it. Magic is a word people think of when looking at art more than business, so I think people are just making a false connection.
Anyone who thinks that is misinterpreting Lucas' statement. By amateurs, he doesn't mean filmmakers. He would never have described himself as an amateur when he was young because, unlike studio bosses, he had an idea of the subject matter. You can criticize Bob Iger, especially for his handling of Star Wars. But that doesn't hide the fact that he has a huge amount of experience and has made hundreds of other decisions for Disney that were not just good but brilliant.
@@SuperJumper40 Agreed 👍
@@SuperJumper40 his decision making lately hasn't been good though
@@SuperJumper40 I see your point. Well, other than to question if Igers' decision-making has actually proven to be "brilliant".
It's like Anton Chigurh said: "If the rule that you followed led you to _this_ , of what use was the rule?" I wouldn't give Iger much credit. He's made good decisions for himself, but the company is starin' down a dark, dark barrel.
"Creating magic is not for amateurs"
Except the group of amateurs that created A New Hope 🙄
Id hardly call them amateurs. George really knew what he was doing with A New Hope even if financially they were held back at the time. It is magical what they were able to make in 1977 with the money and resources they had
Amateurs did NOT create ANH. I'm not sure you understand what amateur means. It means either a nonprofessional doing something without concern for payment OR someone who does something in an inept or ineffective manner.
Just because the movie was not made with abundant resources and independently does not make it the work of amateurs.
Creating magic is not for amateurs, neither for WOKE activists.
I disagree@@PeteOliva. George Lucas was an outsider who was rejected by several studios including Disney, United Artist, and Universal for making his film. When it came to star wars, Lucas worked with people who were either fresh faces or just little known people for the most part. When Lucas had only 10 million dollars to work with in a time when high budget movies cost 30 to 50 million dollars to make. He was an ammuture to those major studios because he didn't believe in what they did. Thankfully Alan Ladd Jr. and Fox were willing to give him a shot after the success of American Graffiti and the rest is history.
@@niiiiiko I wouldn't say Lucas knew entirely what he was doing because he was working on a film that had production issues, rewrites, and other problems that influenced the production. It's been said that Lucas had plenty of people come to him bothered about things like the very corny dialogue and the bad cut of the film. Lucas said that he inclined himself to listen so that he could address these things. People like Marcia Lucas (his wife), Harrison Ford, and Mark Hamill had made suggestions to steer the film in a better direction and it paid off for the first three movies. The prequels on the other hand didn't work out because no one wanted to challenge Lucas because "hEY He wAs thE GEniUs thAt MaDe the star wars movies." And that's why we are here.
I agree in that I think George's statement was meant more for fellow investors than the fans. However, I disagree in that George would make any effort to dictate the direction Disney should take with Lucasfilm, to keep his vote. If anything, I think Bob Iger called George and asked him for support, and reminded George that if power changes at Disney, he would no longer have control over what they did with his legacy. Iger is not one to capitulate or seek guidance from others.
With his legacy ??? That is dead almost. Its sad that the man will die and the franchise would almost die with him instead of living a fruitful life for several more decades.
Huh? George ALREADY "has no control over what they do with his legacy".
I agree with Theory. I don't think he would actively speak out on this proxy effort without having a conversation with Bob Iger about how to fix Star Wars. I think trusting Bob Iger is a mistake. I don't know how this franchise can be recovered anyway.
needs a restart, biggest issue is they have bad writers n creators who were hired because of wokness
Well if he did, hopefully this time he has a signed contract to support what Bob promised. A mans word is nothing to Bob. OR its really the returning of favor (like the blod mark in John Wick where you are bound to do it with no questions) and now they are even.
All they gotta do is make a 🔥 as knights of the old republic trilogy
I disagree. This isn’t about SW. As a Disney shareholder, it’s his job to decide which board of directors will be best. Lucas simply made his choice. Disney probably asked his permission to make a public statement in his image and he probably agreed
Simple. Place the franchise in the hands of actually talented people who weren't hired because of DEI, allow those creatives to shit-can everything Disney Lucasfilm has ever made, give the IP a few years to heal a little bit, and then come back with planned, quality products to sell to the audience.
To me George is acting like a politician says one thing then does The complete opposite
A politician is trying to persuade and get something. I think Lucas just wants to be left alone. If his wife or Iger bug him enough, he'll release any statement just to shut them up. His "children" have already been sold and destroyed
He DID call Disney "white slavers". It's not his Star Wars and it's not OUR Star Wars anymore. George wrote a vote of confidence in support to Bob for the investors. Now, "Star Wars is for everyone" ... just not Star Wars fans.
George Lucas is a grown old ass man. He can be crotchety if he wants to. And these people are his friends even if they don't always agree. How many of us would really just turn on our decades-long friends for fan likes?🤷
I'd turn on my friends if they tried indoctrinating children into a satanic agenda but I guess some people are just more forgiving than I am. 🤷
It’s not for fan likes 😂
Lol I’ve never had a friend screw me over like Iger did to Lucas.
The worst sort of betrayal is to be betrayed by a friend. I don't see how George could bend the knee to Iger and KK after they stabbed him in the back.
It's not about fan likes, it's about Disney pissing all over what George made. Star Wars went from being a cultural phenomenon to the laughing stock it is today. You talk about them being decades old friends, but if you did have a friend for that long, you'd understand that friends don't do to other friends what Disney did to Star Wars.
Valliant Renegade's video on this is eye opening. He states that Lucas' wife serves on the JP Morgan board, whose CEO also recently came out in full support of Iger. This gives a big clue in forming a pro-Iger coalition before this shareholder vote. The Lucas support statement also seems to be written by a lawyer, not even close to how Lucas talks.
Valiant Renegade is brain rotted by politics. Anything he says is likely BS.
@@Azure_Fire Look it up yourself. How are those gas prices treating you?
@@KramericaIndustries-jd9cy Nothing to do with Star Wars. More political brain rot.
@@KramericaIndustries-jd9cy Fine actually, so I guess your hometown is the problem. But that's irrelevant to Star Wars. Don't let the politics poison you too.
You're the one mentioning politics 😂 smh. @@Azure_Fire
Young Indiana Jones was NOT about time travel. It told the story of Indy as a child, a young man, and an old man. Child Indy was on a round the world trip with his parents. Young man Indy served with the Belgian army during WW1, and Old Indy occasionally gave us a modern perspective on his adventures. He met many important leaders, artists, and scientists of the early twentieth century in the course of his adventures. It was an excellent show, and I loved it.
I think you might be thinking about Voyagers, which was a completely different show about a kid traveling through time with an adult who had a device that looked like a compass.
If theory wanted to understand Lucas more he should watch young Indy. Great show.
Iger is in damage control mode big time. He figured if he got George on his side publicly that it would negate or at least lessen the backlash. He underestimated our power...
underestimated yall whining
I think George is holding back what he REALLY wants to say about Disney Star Wars because he knows that his words would change the fate of Disney as a company since they're failing miserably at making good content.
as a casual Star Wars fan...we enjoy disney content...we dont read the books or care about " too many minorities or women" or care about light saber color... its fun on this side...we are not Star Wars Nerds who hate everything... its fun on this side... and as i say that .. i am a hardcore TRANSFORMERS nerd and i hate all the transformers BAY movies with a passion...wish i was a casual about that
@@PopePlatinumBeatsFunny, aside from the woke trash in Beast Wars, I adore the Transformers series. I just wish the focus was on the Cybertronians, not the humans.
@PopePlatinumBeats Same even though I'm a casual Transfromers fans so I'm that invested in that IP compared to most brands.
💯 🎯
@@graysonb_designsonly thing i liked about transformers movies was the cybertron scene in Bumblebee... that is all i ever wanted.... get the humans out of here
Unfortunately the fake fans will probably use this as ammo to push back against us, the real fans. Whenever we criticize disney star wars they'll just say that GL agrees with all of it. Really annoying.
“You were supposed to destroy the sith! Not join them!” 😂
George should just go in and fire Kathleen Kennedy because she's the one that really who had the hand in the downfall of star wars
With due respect to Lucas, thers a certain truth in the old line *once u go black u don't go back*
I have been keeping up to date with the news pertaining to this issue. Iger and the entire Disney board need to get removed. Their handling of Star Wars and all the IPs Lucasfilm owned is nothing short of disgraceful, pretty much destroying legacies. And from a buisness standpoint, made them worthless.
Agreed
I haven't heard anyone say that George is supporting the Disney sequels with his comment, it's that he had a chance to stand up for all of us fans who loved the OG Star Wars and he failed us. He sold out instead of calling out this Disney crap for what it really is. He's also shown us that he's given up for anyone who was hoping that he might come back to fix Star Wars.
8:58 the coping is hard lol
"You Either Die a Hero, or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become the Villain"
The fact he even mentioned his shares in the same statement shows he's choosing his words carefully
Disney took down your watch party for Bad Batch S3E9 for copyright reasons? How? You don't provide any audio or footage. 🤔
Young Indiana Jones was some of my favorite movies, the Peacocks's Eye was a fantastic movie and the actor was a good choice.
It's a shame I was too young to experience then on TV and add my viewership.
I honestly hope that George puts some effort back into Star Wars eventually, its gonna be the final nail of his legacy, and whether or not he is remembered as he should be or not.
People are blowing this out of proportion. George is just protecting his money at the end of the day he stopped truly caring when he sold to disney
No George is a clown. He hasn't made a good movie in 40 years.
Proud of you for not crying in this video
It would be amzing if George could at least write his version on a book 📖 and at least the public would know what his sequel was supposed to be
That would be amazing. The little that we know of the plans he have Disney, was a rough skeleton of what became the sequels. But some major plot points and most of the story was and characters were new. But they followed the basic structure he wanted
This is a power struggle behind the scenes and THR are of course going to side with Iger. Lucas is speaking as an investor, not a creator. We know he doesn't have a high opinion of studio executives on a creative level. Lucas is loyal to Iger [publicly] because of his help getting the Young Indy show made. Lucas, Filoni and Favreau don't bad mouth individuals in public.
Yeah, people tend to forget that in this industry, it's kind of a bad idea to openly badmouth corrupt execs. I mean it shouldn't be this way at all but given that Iger is the one holding Star Wars hostage, I can see those who do love Star Wars wanting to be on his good side until he's finally out.
To be honest I feel a small sense of pity towards George Lucas due to what is going on with Lucasfilm and 'he's Star Wars.
On the other side, he sold it to Disney and if he wants to protect his IP/characters in from being ruined he is going to have to buy it back.
So, he has to sell out to I get to buy it back.
And then what? It's not like the prequels were that good. I know they have a lot of CZcams-fanship, but broadly taken they were considered to be a disappointment. Lucas can't make movies. He is a world builder. He can still do this while SW is under Disney. The point where it matters hasn't changed. It was Lucas' choice to do everything with CGI and he choose the cinematographer and the writers.
Well that's it, the damage is done. It would need another 10-20 years to undo the damage from the 'New' Star Wars sequels, in order to wipe away the stain.
@@michaelblackett8195 Yeah, that's another thing. These freaking Rey movies. But the idea of the current producers is to continue that.
Disney is also doing the best they can. It's really easy to just blame KK or Iger or Chapek. Fact is there is no guarantee someone else would do better. Also, what SW fans like isn't necessarily what the mainstream audience likes. Personally I would love Star Wars to go animation. But in the west animation aimed at a different demographic than primarily kids is a no go mostly, unless it's cheap productions like f.e. the Mortal Kombat movies.
Sadly, you are right. The issue does not just lay with Lucasfilm, it's a Disney thing that sadly won't change any time soon.
Animation is the main way to salvage it. Filoni did an amazing job with Clone Wars/Rebels/Bad Batch. Not yo mention Star Wars Visions and Tales of the Jedi.
I don't agree or disagree with his comments, though I think I understand where he's coming from. After watching someone you thought you knew and trusted absolutely demolish his IP why would he trust someone he doesn't know and has no reason to trust?
Uh...wait. What if the person he "knew and trusted" and who "absolutely demolished his IP" WAS THE SAME PERSON you're saying he should trust over someone he doesn't know?? I'm really not clear on how that works. I mean...he should chose Iger because he KNOWS Iger will lie to him and disregard any ideas he might have about running LucasFilm...as opposed to someone he DOESN'T KNOW who _might_ lie to him and disregard his ideas??
Ijust don't see how the choice of Iger is indicated in that dynamic.
@@Trollificusv2Peltz is trying to get on the board, not CEO. Iger and Peltz clearly dislike each other, so Lucas might be worried that they will fight and this will harm the company. I don’t agree, but it’s a reasonable concern
FYI Theory "Activist Investor" just means an investor who seeks active involvement within the companies they own versus passive investors who simply own a stake in the company but have no involvement in the company.
Valliant renegade did a piece on how is was melody hobson, not George who did the statement and she's on the Morgan stanley board, so did he really say it?
TOO LATE DISNEY HAS GONE TO WOKE
He sold his soul to the devil (Iger) and now he has to protect his stocks. What a tragic fall to the dark side.
George has been working with Disney since 1986 with Captain EO, Star Tours in 1987 and the Indiana Jones attraction in 1995.
@@ubermorph1000 And?
Pelts is worse
Negative. He's been involved with Disney since the 80s. The devil is the media, Iger, and KK and her cronies.
*Leslye Headland rescued no women against sexual assaults by her employer.*
I'm happy that Star Wars Theory created this channel, supported the fanbase like a pro that knows and like Star Wars from the core. And i'm even more happier that he made a fortune out of this dream job. But i imagine that rather soon then later, the interest for Star Wars content will almost go away and maybe the channel will retract quite a lot too. I dont wish that, but as a very sad SW fan, I must admit defeat: we lost our franchise.
I commend you for defending George Lucas of the past yet the new George isn't who he used to be.
Honestly, I stopped caring about SW when TLJ came out. If George no longer cares why do you Theory my boy?
Focus on the old stuff, the new stuff is mysandrist trash
Call it what you want but misandrist? Lol 🤣
@@im_amil It absolutely is misandrist, ran by misandrist lmao.
They go on twitter rants about how all men are this and that, is that not misandrist behavior?
@@malekiththeeternityking5433You must be living in a delusion because no, they don't do that. I wonder where did you get this from
Lucas should have Ian McDiarmid show up to future board meetings as his proxy, in full Palpatine mode.
He realizes it's dead and not his anymore. He's moved on and doesn't seem to care all that much. I doubt it's really about stock, to be honest, so it's him letting go to a degree. Star Wars most likely won't be the same ever again, and this is the direction it's been heading for a long time at this point. I've accepted it, most of you should as well. Star Wars has been turned into the science experiment for wokeness, sad that it's the brand that it happened to, but it did.
Great take on this. I first heard this from that overlord dvd guy and holy crap did he ever call George every name in the book and I not only couldn't watch the rest of that video but I unsubscribed to him immediately. There's obviously a reason why George said what he did and makes perfect sense after hearing what you said in this video
Doomcock is certainly something😂
Dude went off on George calling him Star Wars last hope.
Not to mention, Info he gets is something else I tell ya.
I have no faith left unless they stop with this woke BS like acolyte book of boba obi wan kenonbi Mano season 3 Ashoka was mid but still not to great I liked andor season 1
You don't know what woke means
@@TheOtherVillagerThey really don't when they're incorrectly using it as a catch all dogwhistle to describe anything they don't like, when its definition implicates awareness of political injustices against minority groups.
Pay them no mind.
@@Game4LordExactly
Star Wars was only his 3rd feature length film. Some might consider him still an amateur at that point when he created magic.
Honestly, I think most creative magic does come from amateurs.
He was not an amateur. Watch American Graffiti and THX.
@@Valiantes_ those would be the first and second feature length films I was referring to.
Just because someone is good, doesn't mean they are not amateur. There are many unbelievably good amateur artists.
There are also a few ways to define amateur. We have to use his implied definition from his own statement, which would be someone without enough professional experience or recognition. Star Wars was only his 3rd feature film, and while American Graffiti might have been popular, it wasn't yet recognized, and THX was not that popular.
So by his own implied definition, he was an amateur.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Theory. I can appreciate George’s stage of life - focusing on his finances, comfort and all that. My hope is that he is able to have some sway regarding Lucasfilm. The days of the “integrity handshake” in business is a bygone era. I can’t help but hold this with a bit of skepticism, but we will see.
I think he's got dementia or something. He's turning 80 in 40 days. At that age you start to lose understanding of things and recent photos of him show someone who's mental and physical ability is not there anymore.
It's the difference between his opinion as a creator and as an investor. As an investor, you're always going to back the safe option. Iger helped him get Young Indy made back in the day, and that's why Lucas remains loyal to Iger (in public anyway).
Ooooh, what an original take! M0r0ns like Mike Stocklasa has been saying this exact same cr@p only since the "Special Editions".
I think you just need to your research on this situation rather than make baseless claims…
Hello There
Little question here what does anyone think which was better for Maul. Him being apart the original sequel trilogy story or his arc in Rebels?
Yep.. you heard it here: theory loves Boy George.
🎵 "Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon "🎵
Politicizing it.
Money, that's all he cares about now. He hasn't sold out a little bit, he sold out massively. Years ago.
I agree is tough when you are related to an organization like that financially specially if you are sort of retirement to go against your own interests, when he said what he did, he still had some interest as a creator and it was still fresh on his mind but that is probably gone now, that’s why I have a lot of respect for people like Trump that even in his 70s still punching and fighting back against those that are after him , would be more simple for trump to do what Lucas do and just fade away behind the status quo , that doesn’t take anything away from Lucas but I don’t know is not simple thing
I don't see it as sinister, I think Lucas is just very naive and is placing way too much trust in his "friend".
It's the Prequels all over again.
When Lucas says or does something y'all don't agree with, y'all start attacking him.
Edit: by 'y'all' I mean the toxic fans (like Snyder fans).
Yeah, but he can’t throw a tantrum and sell his IP again.
@@bwhere45 He threw a tantrum because toxic Star Wars fans drove him nuts with complaint after complaint after complaint.
Back then they were like Snyder fan bois - attacking virtually anything that didn't align with their holy veiw of Star Wars.
It goes to show how quick these “fans” turn on him. History repeats itself with hypocrisy. I’m glad Theory will always have his back
@@andrewdowns3673 yeah, that's what happens when someone with no experience writes god awful dialogue that's still cringe worthy and the worst kind of quotable to this day. George Lucas took on too much and got the backlash for it. Welcome to the entertainment industry. First time?
"You're just a man who's taking credit fot a womans work" modern dialogue makes Prequel dialogue look like Shakespeare.
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Enlightening content. Tha KS for the context of the books, archives, and your interviews. Great video.
I definitely feel it's a tragic fate that SW has been dominated by politics "making men feel uncomfortable. "
It would be nice if GL was more forthright too.
You have provided some very interesting insights and a fresh point of view. You clearly have not been monitoring/following the proxy battle between Peltz and Igor (Trian v. Disney)...and that is definitely ok. From your insight, I can certainly respect anyone that follows through with an explicit or implied favor return (quid pro quo if you will), but this "gesture" may have solidified the demise of Lucas' Star Wars as we know it. If George was promised future reparations for his "children", then I hope he got it/them in writing. Thank you for the video!
He should have just kept his mouth shut and enjoy retirement and his billions rather than support the studio that are destroying what he built. Star Wars is dead to me
Sorry, dude, I am out with the Fandom Menace CZcams channels, I am done, Peltz won't fix anything, this is headed towards death threats, I am out. Moving on.
Theory isn’t, or *was* never, part of TFM. Peltz is the amateur here, having zero experience to run the movie industry
What does "this is headed towards death threats" even mean? You think we're going to start telling people to die or something? What? 🤨
@@paradox2210”start”? It already has. Literally every actor, every director, every producer, every caterer providing food for the cast and crew, and every fan who gives positive feedback on Star Wars projects has received death threats. I don’t know what this guy’s talking about.
Just FYI, Young indiana Jones Chronicles was not a time travel show. It was just young Indy and his adventures in the early 20th century. He met Teddy Roosevelt, etc. I watched it back in the day.
It's outrageous, it's unfair. How can you be a Disney stock shareholder, and NOT be in control?
Long story short George chose profit over honesty and integrity.
The decline of Star Wars is a result of a "i owe you one" between George and Bob which resulted in the purchase of Star Wars IP.
George's recent supportive comments of Bob also has to do with George's wife and where she works and how that plays into things, keep that in mind.
Do your research. He would trust Bob over the Nelson Peltz guy, who has ZERO experience running the movie industry, trying to take over Disney with the activists investors
@@SkyscannerGuyJr. Lol triggered eh😁 I'd argue the billions and billions of dollars they've lost the past few years because of Bob and Kathy's obsessive political aspirations is cause enough to get them out of there AKA CLEAN HOUSE, so maybe you should be the one to do your research buddy, The Jig Is up because people are fed up with politics being incorporated into it simple as that🤣😁😘
@@SkyscannerGuyJr. triggered eh😁... I'd argue the billions and billions in finances lost because of Bob and KK's obsessive political aspirations is cause enough for a change in leadership🤣 and still doesn't change the fact that Georgie chose profit over integrity🤪
What profit ? When his bottom line is effected because his own creation is no longer selling what does that say ?
@@atfbproductions7458 I know a reply is braindead when they starts with “triggered”
Georgie is losing his way
I would assume George Lucas was being threatened by Disney. I would say to him "Hey George, is everything okay? Blink twice if you're in danger."
They should make a South park episode of the scene in the opera where Palpatine is Bob and George Anakin 😂
B:"Do you know the story of (investor) the wise? He could bring back companies from the dead"
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Disney dislike button
I think George still cares for Star Wars. I believe he is really sad about sequels because sequels are not his Star Wars. That’s why sequels are bad. So whenever he watches Star Wars, he knows that this is not his little baby anymore. But at this point he doesn’t want to argue about it, he said what he thinks about current situation.
George knows the only cannon that matters is the one in his head.
George was the best. hey thorey I'm planning on buying a thorey saber do you deliver to Australia.
An activist investor is an active investor Nelson Peltz is an activist investor and black wells is a corporate raider in the truest sense. Black well wants to sell Disney bit by bit and Peltz want to save Disney from themselves
Peltz may want to save Disney from themselves but Perlmutter keep that man away. He's the definition of corporate interface.
@@Dschn08 the ISS has actually endorsed Peltz but not Jay Rusulo
Bob Iger does NOT know the Disney brand nor Indiana Jones nor Star Wars. Besides the woke stuff, a theme park ticket should NOT cost more than $75/person.
Bros defending his bottom line he has stock my guy. George has said multiple times what he really thinks.
Nope George Lucas fell to the dark side when he made garbage Prequels. We don't want him
@@bigshaq6634 Its that behavior that made him sell to Disney to begin with. The fandom really only has themselves to blame when it comes to George not really wanting a part in Star Wars anymore. The two things that are killing Star Wars is Disney's mismanagement, and the fandom's toxic instability. Both things end up fueling each other.
When his bottom line is effected because his own creation is no longer selling what does that say ?
@@tempestvenator9809no, the fandom is in fact NOT killing Star Wars. The actual truth of the matter is that 'RlackBock' (B and R reversed) is paying Disney and other companies to make bad content through their esg system, and that is what is killing the series.
@@tempestvenator9809Uh yeah i think its mostly due to star wars having such an insanely broad audience it causes these wildly different opinions to form, the prequels do have problems and its right for people to point the out, but at the same time some people like redlettermedia hate those movies just because they arent the original movies, because star wars is those og movies to them. At the same time to someone like me star wars is the prequels, its kotor its a bunch of other things i grew up with. star wars always is re identifying itself which is great but that comes with people who dont want change to complaining its sad but it is the duty of the people in charge to sift through the bull and real complaints and that gets tiring so George sold people that complain about that are just kinda self losers that cant look past themselves to how someone else might feel. Bro did his job dealt with the bull gave me great star wars for years upon years and then retired, it sucks balls now because its not a clear vision made by people who dont understand the brand and just retread old ground over and over to make it seem like star wars, its sad but I am not angry at George about that.
Doesnt George Lucas know igor sold his stocks already?
I am sure, at least I hope, George doesn't care what people think at this point. His spot in movie history and special effects is well secured regardless of what internet opinions say.
Lucas never deserved to be worshipped. He falsely claims he had the idea for the original trilogy at the beginning and had to split it into 3 movies. People who worked with him say that was never the case. The story had ideas from many people. The idea to make Vader Luke’s father came from a family friend according to Marcia Lucas. Speaking of, Lucas doesn’t give Marcia any credit for the success of Star Wars despite her being an integral part. He was even angry at Irvin Kershner for making Empire so good because he didn’t want anyone else’s handprint on his series.
Geeks and gamers, fandom menace channels and other channels who have the classic “woke” word in all their titles literally called George a Disney Star Wars suck up, traitor, a bot etc. it’s unacceptable. This is about stocks not the Disney Star Wars. blown out of proportion…as usual…George does not deserve this…he does not
At this point I honestly don't really pay attention to groups of people who've made a literal career over just bitching about the latest product over some said corporation vs actually making a competitive product to challenge that said company they can't stand. It's like yelling at the sky at this point when it comes to these groups. How exactly are they building a culture if mostly all them aren't actually creating an alternative? All their really creating is mobs if regressive fanboy hate and not really accomplishing anything?
@@user-zl6oq5sk7k it’s been the same shit with them the past 6 years and nothing has changed…same titles..same bitching…its tiresome
Make sense @star wars theory. Thank you for the info.
I love this information. I always think I know everything but you make a lot of great points.
GL is just trying to make sure that Iger stays in. The reason is that when Chapek took over the stock tanked down to 50. Iger got it back up in the 90s.
GL just wants to protect his stock, so he doesn't want to rock the boat right now.
GL's 100% incorrect, b/c under Iger the stock didn't even keep pace with the S&P, & Peltz can turn the company around.
Other similar companies(Warner, Netflix, etc.) were doing $30 bil a year @ 20% margins, Disney's done $50 bil, @6% margins which is abysmally bad.
It has nothing to do with liking the direction of the content.
Keep up the good work.
GL: "Hey look. Im gonna make this, I'm gonna make this announcement for you Bob. But listen, you gotta change some things around here, alright? That's the deal we gotta have. Alright? Put it in writing."
BI: "Yeah, whatever you want George, whatever you want. J-j-just gimme me some clout, just gimme me some backing. Please. PLEASE."
GL: "Alright Bob, but let me say, I'm just going to tell you this once, you better fix this mistake, man, you better fix what you've done. Otherwise, I'ma write in my memories, dude, I'm gonna to write this thing, and it's gonna get released."
BI: "Whatever you say George, whatever you say. Alright."
2024 disneystarwars releases and news:
-Skeleton Crew
-The Acolyte
-And hiring an inexperienced pakistani woke activist chick for a future flick
(What a "magnificent" follow thru Bob.)
Don’t forget that the 'inexperienced pakistani' is a wef member and gives speeches at their conferences, and so *anything that she has ever said and done to help anyone in the past is 100% disingenuous.*
You don’t want that sort of hypocrite making a movie. But of course, Disney is paid to enable this sort of thing.
So making a movie about honor killings makes you a "woke activist" now. Wow
@@villadavid1997 She’s a wef member. You would’ve seen my comment before typing that. No matter what 'good' things she does, she is a terrible person by default simply for attending those conferences.
@@paradox2210 What's the problem with wef
@@villadavid1997 They discreetly tell governments and massive agencies what to do. They’re extremely bad. It’s an unelected group of people who essentially control the planet.
We must still get the unfinished George Lucas sequel trilogy somehow!
Don’t forget that when you sell to a public company or broker a deal, its common to have a support agreement (for voting) and non-disparagement agreement. Id be curious to see if there was some of it part of his package about not publicly critiquing the disney SW projects
After reading Dune and Dune Messiah, I'm now convinced that George is a talentless hack who just repackaged the Dune plot. He's an intelligent businessman, but he's bankrupt when it comes to creativity. Take him off your pedestal and your life will be much better for it.
Dune is trash 😂
I don't put him on a pedastal, and I often doubt his account of things, but there's no need to veer to the opposite extreme. He packaged a story that made 100's of millions of people happy for a very long time. That takes creativity, drive and energy, from him and lots of people
You should have watched [Akira Kurosawa's]:
The Hidden Fortress.
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@@SonicProfessor_a.k.a._T._Andra I checked out the Hidden Fortress a year or two ago because Lucas said he modeled R2D2 and C3PO after two of the characters in THF. It was a decent film. Not my favorite Kurosawa, but I enjoyed it 😃
Even though I still think Lucas ripped off Dune, I'd love to sit down with him and discuss film because he does appear to be knowledgeable about the art. I imagine he's probably sick of talking about Star Wars lol
@@urbanexcursion That is, practically, a guarantee, yes! ["more-than-just-done" w/talking about Star Wars things!😉]
L take. You're simping so hard for GL that it's now somehow completely fine to trade morality for money.
The Star War fan community is lucky to have you Theory. Super level headed and educated response to this latest drama. I didn’t know about the Young Indiana Jones connection they had. He backed Bob out of loyalty which is admirable. And who knows, maybe there’s more being said behind the scenes between them and we might see real change happen one day at Disney. You’re a gem Theory! Keep up the great work.
Backing Bob Iger on a finance decision is one thing, backing Bob Igers creative choices was/is a whole different conversation. If only we could be a fly on the wall...
George Lucas only proved that he has no spine or balls. The SP episode of him and Spielberg assaulting a storm trooper is accurate.
George Lucas is a SITH LORD!! 🤬
Oh shush.
At this point no one cares about starwars. They want to keep making new things? Whatever. Really.
It went from a huge event to a huge meme. You know it's going to be bad, the reason you are going to watch it is to see how bad exactly. 🤷🏼♂️
Nope, not even gonna hate watch it. Not a minute of my life will I waste on their woke trash. Apathy is the best policy. Be strong.
@@floydfanboy2948 Yeap. I should add I was talking about digital form when available and not cinema. They don't deserve it. And if you can find it elsewhere that's even better, they do not even deserve the click or the monthly sub. 💁🏼♂️
I agree there is a financial incentive but I also think it’s a personality thing. Lucas doesn’t give me the impression that he likes to rock the boat or be confrontational in public.
I have often contrasted his approach to another great director who also sold his franchise, John Carpenter. He has never held back on his thoughts on the direction Halloween has taken. That’s a very personality aspect to him. It’s also the case that he doesn’t have strong if any financial ties to the franchise anymore like Lucas has.