GD&T Lesson 4: Datums & Datum Reference Frame

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
  • I explain how datums and the datum reference frame work.
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Komentáře • 96

  • @cncdude9680
    @cncdude9680 Před rokem +11

    Thank you for all the great content! I've been watching all of your videos for the last few months as I was promoted from Machinist to CMM Programmer. I always find myself referring back to your videos whenever I have a question. You have helped me more than you know!

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před rokem +9

      Hi! Thanks so much! I am trying to create a metrology/CMM “micro-credential” at the college I teach at for the exact situation you have achieved. I’m thrilled my videos have been helpful in your career. Please feel free to send any questions my way via comment or email.

    • @MrAkosFintor
      @MrAkosFintor Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hey there, I'm a machinist but starting a job in inspection and would like to program CMM's . Wrote some programs in Mastercam as a machinist. How is programming CMM compares to CNC? thanks

  • @bobmrcs
    @bobmrcs Před rokem +2

    Thank you for making these videos available! I've been a student of GD&T for 40 plus years and appreciate your professionalism and getting your perspective and insight.... Great job!

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před rokem

      Thanks so much! I really appreciate your feedback. I try to present the material in my own way.

  • @vythinathanduraiswamy3430

    👍Excellent introductory video on Datums! Very much to the point and very comprehensible. Thank you.

  • @martincacer7033
    @martincacer7033 Před 2 lety

    Great subjet, upgraded, expanded, and give me more vision of GD&T watching your videos. I appreciate your time and dedication.

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před 2 lety

      Thanks so much! I always appreciate your comments.

  • @alexandersomera9974
    @alexandersomera9974 Před rokem +2

    Dude. You are awesome. I was dreading going back and watching a year's worth of metrology courses from college to prep for an interview and you have encapsulated all the most important stuff in a night's worth of content. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and utilizing your pedagogical talents to help people learn 🙏

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před rokem

      Wow, thanks! Glad my videos were helpful!

  • @jephcatacutan2571
    @jephcatacutan2571 Před 2 lety +9

    Thank you for what you do Dean! I learned a lot from your videos! keep it up!

  • @MrAkosFintor
    @MrAkosFintor Před 10 měsíci +1

    Dean, I'm blown away by these videos! Thank you

  • @connorjones7202
    @connorjones7202 Před 7 měsíci

    Just adding a comment to make sure you know your video is out here helping people become better. Thank you for your expertise.

  • @vor6126
    @vor6126 Před rokem +3

    Amazing video as always Dean, keep up the great uploads !

  • @akilanm5592
    @akilanm5592 Před rokem

    This stuff give me hope and confidence.Thanks a lot man🙏

  • @brytonheiselt1915
    @brytonheiselt1915 Před rokem +2

    I feel like more of a genius every new video

  • @shankar554
    @shankar554 Před 2 lety +1

    Watched few of your videos.. love it. Keep coming!

  • @user-xv7ts4jr8o
    @user-xv7ts4jr8o Před 4 měsíci +3

    As a student who is confused and has a test tomorrow morning this is amazing help

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Happy to help, what school are you attending?

  • @harwellmejia6465
    @harwellmejia6465 Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent ! Thanks a lot, professor. This is really helpful.

  • @AccentonComedy
    @AccentonComedy Před rokem +1

    Hey, great Lessons, will watch as much videos from this channel as I can throughout this month!
    Hope this videos will be great jumping board for learning about quality measurement.

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před rokem +2

      Glad you like them! Thanks so much, I think I have about 100 videos on GD&T & QC

    • @AccentonComedy
      @AccentonComedy Před rokem

      @@RDeanOdell You have more than enough ;)

  • @pochtronvirelune25
    @pochtronvirelune25 Před rokem

    Always the perfect content! Thanks a lot

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před rokem

      You’re very welcome, thanks for watching & commenting!

  • @user-lx2mx6hh7d
    @user-lx2mx6hh7d Před 6 měsíci

    Explained very neatly and in easy way. Thank you

  • @joshgworks
    @joshgworks Před rokem

    Great video, this is super useful to bringing beginners up to speed.

  • @nikunjkumarbhatt5904
    @nikunjkumarbhatt5904 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you very much for your contribution for the betterment of industry.

  • @janardhanduda9224
    @janardhanduda9224 Před 2 lety +1

    Great explanation,Thank you so much.
    Please make more videos on gd&t.

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you! I am working on more videos presently.

  • @shishirmahmood1766
    @shishirmahmood1766 Před 20 hodinami

    Great work Sir!

  • @MukeshRajasekar
    @MukeshRajasekar Před rokem

    Thankyou so much enjoyed the session throughout

  • @ronconovoa7566
    @ronconovoa7566 Před 3 měsíci +1

    so much info here thank you

  • @richp5060
    @richp5060 Před 2 lety +2

    I really enjoy learning from your videos. Maybe you could make one on measuring tubes with multiple bends. I always struggle aligning tubing on my CMM with intersection points for XYZ.

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před 2 lety

      Thanks so much! In the next few months I will be updating my CMM videos. Can you provide any information on the parts you are measuring?

  • @a.c.estudio2432
    @a.c.estudio2432 Před 2 lety +1

    nice sir, thanks for the knowledge 👍

  • @nicodeusvillafranca8051

    This is really helpful

  • @a.c.estudio2432
    @a.c.estudio2432 Před rokem +1

    thanks again Dr

  • @davidraj_2129
    @davidraj_2129 Před rokem +1

    Great explanation sir..Thank u

  • @anthonybailey6594
    @anthonybailey6594 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the info.

  • @Pkstoic
    @Pkstoic Před 2 lety +2

    Very nice sir

  • @user-br1ob2nf1x
    @user-br1ob2nf1x Před rokem

    Can you make a video over the terminology of which datums control what? For example, if a profile can control location, size, form, and orientation, and a call out has three datums, does the primary datum control the location and orientation, the secondary controls form, and what does the tertiary control? Or if it only had two datums called out, what does it mean to the machinist or manufacturer as to what is "more important" to the designer? Form and orientation and disregard location and size? Thank you for these videos!

  • @itziksh3272
    @itziksh3272 Před rokem +1

    Nice !

  • @alanchang0118
    @alanchang0118 Před rokem

    Thanks for your clear explanation. I think datum reference frame is the most important chapter in GD&T.
    I have a question about setting hole pattern as datum. As you mentioned, the measurement origin is the center of those four holes.
    How can I determine the orientation of this Datum Reference Frame on CMM? Can I choose any one of these holes for alignment?

  • @QwertyCanada
    @QwertyCanada Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks, last one about multiple datums frames was a great example!
    I also got a question about where you talked about the pattern and how we need to use the position instead of perpendicularity for datum B, which makes sense. However how do we tell manufacturer the actual position of the pattern itself (the relative location of holes in the pattern is clear and identified, but how do we specify how much the pattern should be up and down, and do we need another DRF to make that clear to machinist?) Kind of similar question to this is figure 4.9 of 2009 standard, it's not clear where datum B is, again relative positions are specified, but how does machinist know where to drill hole B to begin with, they only know it should be perpendicular to A. Thanks, and sorry for very long question 😅

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před 2 lety

      Hi, great question! The short answer is to think of all the of the features being relative to the pattern of holes serving as a datum. Often this is a profile with a wide tolerance for areas that mate to air. Does this help?

    • @QwertyCanada
      @QwertyCanada Před 2 lety

      @@RDeanOdell Yes! I Guess my conventional tolerancing mind was so used to drawings with part outside edges as datum; it makes sense now, thanks!

  • @nekomatajs
    @nekomatajs Před 2 lety +1

    Great info .Could you do one on measuring perpendicularity? Thanks

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi, I actually have a video about that already:
      GD&T Inspection: Flatness, Parallelism and Profile
      czcams.com/video/CpDU7NbkmBY/video.html

  • @hann9630
    @hann9630 Před rokem

    Thanks for your great videos! I have a question:
    At the pattern example the A datum confuses me, how can it be used for position of the hole pattern if A datum is the flat base as shown on your board?

  • @kalimuthuselvaraj8836
    @kalimuthuselvaraj8836 Před 4 měsíci +1

  • @mustafahayriatl2723
    @mustafahayriatl2723 Před rokem

    niceeee

  • @shankar554
    @shankar554 Před 2 lety

    In the last example you gave will it be alright to have open dim B/W datum B & D along with removing the profile control frame for datum D surface?

  • @eartheartbaratheon791

    14:00 does the MMC need to be applied always when we're specifing a geometric tolerance to a FOS? And if not, how does it change the message?

  • @anncharlottemurigi1397
    @anncharlottemurigi1397 Před 8 měsíci

    At @22:15, can we say datum B is an axis at the center of the part or datum B is a mid plane in the indicated hole

  • @user-ct6ot2dk9w
    @user-ct6ot2dk9w Před 5 měsíci

    I have a question that can be datum located at id dimensioning, for hollow tube thanks.

  • @shankar554
    @shankar554 Před 2 lety +1

    Suggested topic from my side for your future videos...Let us say I have a rectangular part with a large 45 deg chamfer on one edge through which a hole is drilled. If that 45 deg(45 deg to horizontal) surface becomes my primary datum for the hole then how will my cartesian co-ordinates change & how will the basic dimension be used to locate the hole etc. Please amuse me by answering this Q.

    • @shankar554
      @shankar554 Před 2 lety

      Please do not ask me to put basic angle B/W axis of datum & the horizontal plane & provide angular geometric tolerance. I want to make sure that the chamfered surface is my primary datum for the hole so that I can ensure that hole is perpendicular to this surface.

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před 2 lety

      Hi, I would make that chamfer surface the primary datum for whatever features exist there. So you would need more than one DRF. I’ll see what I can do about a video covering multiple DRFs.

    • @shankar554
      @shankar554 Před 2 lety

      @@RDeanOdell Thank you. Will look forward for the video.

    • @shankar554
      @shankar554 Před 2 lety

      @@RDeanOdell Great! After u make the chamfered surface as your primary datum could you please locate the feature on that surface with basic dimensions. Asking this as once primary datum is set the secondary & tertiary datums are at 90 degree to it. And we provide basic dim from datums and not datum features. Please show with an example if possible.

  • @learnthrivecompassion422

    Is GD&T required for CAD product design? At what stage of product design would GD&T be most useful?

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před rokem

      Hi, it’s not required. Some companies don’t use it at all. The thing is, the companies that do use it make it very important. It is used during the early design process in modeling parts, then in the drawing phase to document the design intent.

    • @learnthrivecompassion422
      @learnthrivecompassion422 Před rokem

      The drawing phase is not preceeded by the modeling parts phase? And by modeling parts, are you referring to creating them in a CAD program typically? I ask because I want to get into product , part design in CAD, particularly Solidworks but I want to approach learning the skill methodically and systemically without jumping ahead.

  • @godspeed1148
    @godspeed1148 Před 2 lety +1

    Can we call a datum to dimension of a hole directly.(so that the axis of the hole is the datum)

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi,
      Yes, an internal or external cylinder can be a datum feature. The axis of the actual mating envelope is the datum axis.

    • @godspeed1148
      @godspeed1148 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you and
      please make the video on position tolerance....

  • @charitharanwala
    @charitharanwala Před 3 měsíci

    How datum B became a center plane at @5.46 , it just the other surface ?

  • @tomascancelliere4348
    @tomascancelliere4348 Před rokem +1

    I'm a bit confused. In a different datum video, you said we can't use flatness as a datum feature of size, but in this one, it is shown as an example for the middle depiction. Am I misinterpeting something? Or is there a rule that allows it?

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před rokem +1

      Hi, it the other video I was showing ways to apply datum feature symbols to indicate the datum is a surface. A flatness applied to a DMP can be used as a datum, but it is not common. It is not ideal as a primary datum, it is difficult to simulate.

    • @tomascancelliere4348
      @tomascancelliere4348 Před rokem +1

      Thanks! Your videos are a great source of knowledge. Thank you for all your insight and explanations!!

  • @aniketshelke8796
    @aniketshelke8796 Před rokem

    Your voice is same as in the max payne game

  • @mathewjadamec4868
    @mathewjadamec4868 Před rokem

    12:45? A flatness on a feature of size? This seems more like an application for straightness. How do I inspect the flatness as you've drawn? Thanks

  • @amolaegade5428
    @amolaegade5428 Před 10 měsíci

    Dear sir I also want to gain knowledge like you in the field of GD&T and become like you.....what should I do to achieve that?

  • @hemendrasharnagat5534
    @hemendrasharnagat5534 Před rokem +1

    Hello Sir, I have Some questions, could you please clarify it.
    1. Can it is compulsory to Show secondary and Territory Datum ? when we use to show Primary Datum ?
    2. Can it is compulsory to show Feature Control Frame with Datums ?
    3. Why we use Datum? can tolerance on dimension only can work ?
    4. The Difference of AMSE vs ISO Standard for GD&T
    looking forward to hear from you.
    Thank you!

    • @RDeanOdell
      @RDeanOdell  Před rokem

      Hi, thanks for your question. I ask that you watch this video first, and then let me know if there are still areas you are unclear about.
      Applying GD&T: 3 Basic Steps
      czcams.com/video/LjACDWlNm04/video.html

  • @jamestrank5928
    @jamestrank5928 Před 29 dny

    4:02 You didnt draw it on the wrong side. You position the piece backwards

  • @ryaneb1370
    @ryaneb1370 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm still so confused. I hate adhd.

  • @siljoshajan5850
    @siljoshajan5850 Před měsícem

    chooper

  • @mattadams5541
    @mattadams5541 Před 7 měsíci

    Your practice part is from the Israeli Iron Dome. 😎