ABUSED MOTORHOME - £70,000 IN SCRAP
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- čas přidán 26. 02. 2024
- In today's Motorhome Vlog we are looking at a Luxury Motorhome that was described to us as in excellent condition inside & out.
We were planning on selling this one off our pitch until we realised the state of it and decided that we wouldn't put our name anywhere near this Motorhome.
This Used Motorhome to retail would be somewhere close to the £70,000 mark but having seen inside let us know in the comments if you would buy it at that price.
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That looks to me like a motor home that has been hired out!
No Sue only had the one owner! 😐
I spent 400 quid on a habitation and mechanical check on a second hand motorhome . Best 400 quid I've ever spent . Saved me buying a 25k lemon full of damp on the back end . Well worth the money 💰
Good move Mark 👍
like others I think this has been hired out - we have always taken care of our motorhomes, at the end of the day, its our biggest asset after the family home - the last one we sold to a big dealership that travelled to see it, did the damp test and gave us what we were asking, also apologised for not taking his shoes off on the prisitine carpet, as he left a mark on it ;-) belated birthday greetings
Thanks Lynne 👍
Should have shown the reg, I know you can't, but this is going to be sold elsewhere to someone else by the owner 😤😤😡
Kev. tries to lift the mood but never seen Jason so irritated!!!. And rightly so, it’s just been abused!!!. Thanks for the Vid.!!
Not nice seeing vans left like that! And a rip on my jacket 😐
A different but Honest appraisal about motorhomes.
It reminds us all, that it's good business to not too chase after bad business. I allways believe when buying a home that you can feel if its a happy loved one or not. The motorhome is your home. The same applies. Great video. The lesson in life sprinkled with some working wisdom. Thank you.
Thanks Gary 👍
It’s really good to see a good honest appraisal.
This just shows who to buy from.
You genuinely are top people.
Thanks Garagemotorcare 👍
I wouldn't go anywhere near that van if it was £20,000 IMHO. Good video lads.
No we are the same James, we don't sell them in that mess 👍
That knocks Pilote off my wish list.
Though some things are abuse others are poor build quality.
Most French folk have them so must have somefing right.
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Ignoring this specific van, it is good to see the level of thoroughness involved in your inspection of the vans that you sell. Another argument to use against those people who moan that vans from dealers are more expensive.
Very true Tony 👍
Jason you're absolutely 100% right... Glad you're looking out for your customers. :)
It's a beautiful van until you start digging, and initially customers might be blinded to the issues, but they'd definitely be angry when they start uncovering them if they'd spent 70k.
We agree!Nicky we won't buy anything unless it's been fully checked!👍
Glad you’re honest and trustworthy. Some dealers might of sold that motor home and kept quite about the faults and condition.
We would never sell anything with fault's etc Ray 😀
Excellent vlog. We are considering getting a used one 6m and under. However, we are concerned about buying a lemon. Keep making videos about what to look for when checking up a motorhome
Guys you are not being petty. £70K. It has to be perfect. All the parts and labour will add up. Great video guys. 😊
Thanks for watching Gus 😀
Just trying to explain (in my head) how such a new van could have so many problems. Good and honest review. Thanks
Thanks for watching! Mike 👍
The pilote did have a problem with the hab step. Also many like our one had a new floor fitted. The mastic in the shower is acrilic based and didn't adhere or flex very well. The I'd media unit is ot fit for purpose and the tablet never works.
Condensation is a problem in the garage.
We have a 2020 pilote fgj automatic. I re masticed the shower, as said had a new floor fitted ( you would never know) dealer fitted a pioneer head unit and tablet under warrenty.
We live in the van fulltime and is as new inside and outside.
We looked at many makes, £10000 more expensive, one even had a two inch screw comming through the head lining.
Two others, brand new plus £100000 had spongy floors.
Nice insight guys. Looking at the state the van is in, could it have been hired out!!!
Hi Thewobblyface, no it was owned by them and never rented out!😐
Hi Kev 👋 happy birthday 🎂 for the other day. Another fantastic video, God bless you guys, Rob from Wales
Thanks Brother 😀
FANTASTIC AND WELL DONE SIR. So may dealers say I am selling for someone else so no or 3 month guarantee when a consumer act states, if something goes wrong within six months it is deemed to have been there when you purchased it and therefore should be put right by the dealer anything that is sold on a forecourt, even if not using the companies, paperwork is still guaranteed.
I absolutely congratulate you for making that point and it really does show. What a good company you are
For a huge investment, you would’ve thought someone would’ve cherished it
I think it’s a case of the more you look the more you’ll find ..
I must’ve missed Kevin’s birthday, but belated wishes !!!
Unfortunately, I’m not one of your international fans Kev , only down the road in Shrewsbury
Thanks Neil! 👍
Happy belated Birthday Kev Top Man 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Your a Gods honest Motorhome sales man. When its my turn to buy one, ( which i was very close to doing last year until my car blew a hole in my engine 😢) my eyes will be peeled on your company ❤
Thanks for watching Dee 👍
These guys are just great & down to earth , keep it up lads
Thanks 😀
Good consumer advice, thank you! Beware of any A-class Pilote with a double floor as it is common for the floor to sag.
Very true! Travelcampervan 👍
Very nice to see you both blessings to and your families
Thank you so much Kaye 😃
Great Video. Water ingress could have been from the sink, however, it looks like a lemon.. I think a private seller (DIY Enthusiast) will get a bargain, but nowhere near 70k
Exactly Neil 👍
Interesting video lads 👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Glad you enjoyed it Jimmy 👍
Well done for showing this issue. You'd think it's been a hire vehicle 😂
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We paid 38k for our van . I lost count of how many we viewed and Car Vertical Checks to boot . Some are hired ,some go backwards ,some leave Copart and many from pri ate seller and stupidly priced .
We worked hard for that cash .
Finally we found a decent mototorhome . Still belt and braces ,changed timing belt and water pump ,full service ,new hhab check .
Still she runs like a dream and has never let us down.
Kepp looking and view loads of vans,private sale or dealer ...😊😊😊
Belated Happy Birthday Kev 🍻🏴
Thanks Brutallyhonest 👍
Thank you for this well reasoned argument why I should not buy a mobile home or camping van. If ever I decide to try one out, I'll rent one - for the £70,000 notional price I could have at least 40 weeks of holidays without worrying about things going wrong.
It's all about choice Ian, But thanks for watching 😀
Really good vlog, just shows what you have to look for before selling a van. Did Kevin say he has changed his van ?
Hi yes Kev has had a campervan now 😃
i used to do dry cleaning for a motor home hire company in NZ. The work that they have to put in to keep this rubbish up to standard is massive and costly. They look really good when new, but buyer be ware.
Waldorf, Statler great video. The van was grubby to say the least, look at the mattress and I’d worry about the leaks. I’d feel ashamed if that was my van you were discussing, mind you I don’t have one. Also those screws poking out, very dangerous. Just one thing with 151000 followers I think you can afford to by a torch, nice job guys😁😁
I've bought a motorhome like this.....yes it's 21 yrs old and yes it was cheap but it has been so unloved. One day soon I'll have put enough love (and cash!) Into it so it can live again and get me away for a few months! Such a shame how some people treat these vans.
Great channel Jason 👍🏻
Thanks Steve 😀
Love all your your videos. If you decide on Belgium perhaps think of Ghent and Dinant, two places we would like to visit in the future 😊
Thanks for the tips!👍
Love you two your a comedy duo. Cant believe the state of this van 🙄🙅♀️ Belated birthday wishes to kev from fellow stockfordians x
Thank you so much 😁
A ripping yarn! Cannot understand how your owner would be so careless, but I'm surprised that the damp issues are so extensive. I thought Pilote was one of the better brands,, but I have noticed hat even the German brands are not what they used to be. Looking at the vans at the NEC last October I was shocked by the poor finish on the latest vans - especially coachbuilt models. Lots of sharp edges and tacky cupboards etc.. I bought a 69 plate Murvi Pimento from Murvi six months ago. Absolutely immaculate, and Murvi build quality has not diminished. BTW I would never touch a leaking van with a bargepole. I had one a few years ago and the problem just got worse and worse.
I like your no nonsense approach and entertaining style.
Hi Peter some people just don't care! Thanks for watching 👍
Happy birthday Kev, from Kalamazoo Michigan 😀
Thanks David 😀
That was great I can’t believe people would treat their motor home like lt , I check polish and clean mine it was a lot of money and worked all my life to get it ,pride those owners didn’t have any 👏👏👏
Some people don't care Graham sadly 😒
Can I have it back now then😂😂Jason has form so we know he will get another 5 years out of that coat😂😂Turning the phone torch on was very funny, sorry its the small things that amuse me. Cheers K.
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Great Video Mark, Ooops Sorry I meant Jason 😂😂😂
Walk away from that one Jason, might be hiding something more serious, like Kevin mentioned around the entrance step 🤔
Happy Birthday young Kev 🎉🎉🎉
Kev, the funny thing with you trying to turn on the torch, we are old school Kev just a simple switch does me 😂, my wife tells me I have trouble turning her on, shame she doesn’t have a permanent off switch 🤣🤣🤣
Keep them videos coming, getting better than Marks 🤣👍
Cheers Lee 😀
I do agree that simple things should be sorted but things like the cooker grommet cost a fortune relatively for one or two wheresas you can buy say 100. The fridge. I had to have a new one fitted and it cost £2700 fitted, a Dometic. ( based on quality and functionality it must have cost £300 to make ).The shelves and door inserts are MADE TO BREAK and Dometic just rob customers and don’t care less about the theft as we have to have a fridge which fits. The part in the old fridge isn’t carried after 10:years so there’s one solution. My 18 month old fridge has cracked door shelves despite me taking care and protecting the corners and the old ones went to the tip but were perfect . Didn’t fit in the new one of course. It has doors which open both ways but guess what? Unnecessary , annoying and will break and constantly open whilst driving and if ajar the alarm is so quiet you don’t hear it. ( it doesn’t turn up). If customers weren’t ripped off we’d be more responsive to criticism. Some of the vans just aren’t worth the money when new as they are crap compared to say a 15 year old van. COVID added £20k to Motorhomes for bugger all so you make your money and can afford to mend these bits more than customers can.
I drive a 2007 Rapido 7099F which is fabulous.
STILL LOVE THE CHANNEL THOUGH🎉
Yo did get the bit where he was trying to sell it for someone else didn't you? They should have put these things right before even thinking about selling it.
keV your the straight man he can't get by without you Jason 😂
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Happy BIRTHDAY KEVIN.😊
Thanks PIppa 😀
Kev has just earned the nickname “Torchy” thanks guys very enlightening much appreciated 👍
Thanks for watching Lester😃
Happy belated birthday big Kev🎉🍻
Thanks Jan 👍
No curtains says travellers had this at some point whether legal or not
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Its been hired out for, dunno, £80 a day., for a couple of years or more. The owners have hired it out when they weren't using it I guess, then had a few bad lettings that really damaged the van and are now trying to sell it on. I think knowing the mileage would give the game away. Another good video guys, keep up the good work. BTW are you starting a new show called 'Campers and Cash' ?!!
Hi David it's only done 9000 miles, so it has'nt been rented out. 👍
WOW! That's blown that theory then. @@TheMotorhomeMan
95% of this looks like shoddy build quality IMO.
Scratchable wood trim in a luggage area, a shower screen hook made of a material harder than the screen itself, water leaks, rubber trim that pops out during use, seat trim that falls off with horrible protruding screws…
An outdoor recreational vehicle shouldn’t need to be treated with kid gloves - robustness should be designed in.
Thanks for your review TIjay 👍
It's not just the financial cost though, is it ? My camper is worth about £5000, but I look after her as though she was my child, because I'm proud of all the work and time I've put into her, and she's my 2nd home, which I'd never allow to get into the state of that £70,000 monster. Love your videos.
No Lynette, some people really don't care, it's very sad to see.Thanks for watching 😀
How were those screws put in, the heads seem to be in the chipboard?
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Top seatbelt mount nut cover_ I needed one for a VW and couldn't believe it was £30, back order and no longer available in black, grey only. So not only down £30 but won't match the seatbelt?
Hi Kevin maybe try ebay or something like that.👍
Hi Jason do we have to make an app to have a look around thanks Chris.
No not at all 👍
I thought Jason would of gone to Hollywood with his acting skills
Hi Kev. Can I ask you a serious question.
Are Rich Tea the best dunkers?
Not any more, they are a bit thin.
HobNobs are still good.
hi jason could you please give advise on putting my weight up on my motorhome many thanks
Hi Anthony if you go to Sv tech they actually do all them type of things 👍
You'll have to get some of that invisible mending tape for the coat. Get it inside the damaged area and iron it. Hope that helps😊👍
Thanks Peaky 👍
2019? was it used as a tour bus for Motley Crue?
great video. Petty you are NOT. Buy with confidence that you have thoroughly vetted what you put your name on.
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Why on earth would the owner of this van try to sell this in such bad condition, I’d be ashamed to show it to anyone let alone try to sell it.
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I hope you guys didn’t fall out on this video because Kevin you make a good team and it’s a shame. Maybe if you want a torch, I can always send you a torch. I know you can buy one but I have quite a few spare if you want one.
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The only thing I would run away from is the water ingress I recon it had a hit in the side and this has moved the outer badly panels splitting the sealant all over the place also loosening things. It can never be a nice 70k van again. So yes send it back with a no thank you. Someone will get burned with this and end up with a lemon and a seventy thousand loan to pay off . That’s why you go to trusted dealers and a bit more for a well checked vehicle
the mind boggles as to how people can manage to destroy something that new, are you sure that isn't stolen recovered, even ex hire ones wouldn't be that bad😦😦
No only had the one owner! 😐
Not quite scrap, every van I have ever bought from a dealer has had niggles, catches broken bulbs not working and the like,
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Water ingress is always a problem but the silly things missing or broken can be replaced. I wouldn't buy it for 70k though.
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This is what happens when you rent your van out. I get asked all the time why dont you make some cash and rent it out when you are not using it.
Very true! But this was not rented out it was their personal van.😐
I always told my staff, I opened a Double Glazing company, that is a customer finds one thing they will find two, tree or four even though the two, three and four is not a problem and they are seething things that are not there it does not matter you have lost there trust so if ever something does not go right and let’s be fair not all 100% of jobs will go right always always point it out to the customer first and let them know what we will do about it. My best customers with the most recommendations with a customers that had a small problem because we always pointed it out first and sorted it out when they recommended us. They say if it goes wrong they’ll deal with it which is what we did.
That motorhome is complete trash. What a shame.
Lots of comments about it being ex hire. Can you confirm that? It would be a good warning for anyone considering hiring out. I'd love a look underneath as well, especially at the rear yo see if it's bottomed out. I'd put money on bent chassis extensions.
Belated happy birthday Kev, when was your birthday?
Thanks Mark 👍
Atleast people can see honesty in you.gonna cost few grand put that right & if damp there screwed😢
Totally agree Dean 👍
I would say it’s been used as a hire motor home.Don’t blame you for not wanting to sell it.
Not a chance! 👍
They don't deserve to get any money for it, hate to see how they live. These vans cost a fortune and have shown total disrespect, god only knows how they treat other people's belongings.
Hi Suz, some people just don't care about things or people!😐
I would make sure a habitation check is done and if I was the owner of this van I never sent it to you or tried to sell it into my fix stuff but obviously seller has no shame whatsoever. It’s such a shame because it’s the type of van that I would buy, if it was in excellent condition how dare people say things are in excellent condition when they’re
Some people really don't care Bilbp 😐
Could this have been a rental vehicle, as I've rented a few that had been treated badly?
No Padraig it had one owner 😐
@@TheMotorhomeMan Wow. Even if that person was a friend, I think I'd give them a paper plate and plastic cutlery if I invited them to dinner.
id love to take that and make it like new again
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The Chuckle Brothers ride again 😂
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Did you get a card from the King? 🎉 🤘
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I've seen a few things described as 'excellent condition' which I would describe as disgusting. Unfortunately everybody has different standards. All I can say if they think that is excellent I would hate to see what they would describe as 'poor condition'.
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70k So what is it's value with the faults and what is it's value after the faults have been fixed
Not sure Colin as we wouldn't buy it off them. 😃
Will you fix this motor home or put it through auction ?
No we didn't buy it 👍
Looks like the curtains near the table also missing
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If that's how people treat Motor-homes, just imagine what their homes are like?
Very true Devonshire! And thanks for watching 😃
I think it’s crazy that people don’t look after their motorhomes.Regarding water ingress. We had terrible issues with new Swift caravans leaking showers leaking sink and so on. The build quality in newer vans is awful even the materials used are of poor quality. Like you said older vans are built with better quality materials.
Some people just don't care 😒
@@TheMotorhomeMan Sadly this is true! I don’t understand people who don’t take a pride in looking after things. If that’s how they treat an expensive Motor Home I would hate to think what their house looks like.
Just get an old builders van convert it and dump it later no worries?
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As a matter of interest, if you got offered this directly from a private seller - how much would you estimate it would take (knowing what you have just found, ignoring what you have not yet found) to put it back to where it should be?
The real crime is 70k for a motor home, the pricing is laughable
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What a shame it’s in such a state it’s more a restoration project for some one to undertake rather than a 70k van would I buy it not even for a restoration project I would be checking the chassis by the door with the miss matched lino might have had a side impact could explain the damaged step
what a shame that motorhome was in so poor condition I wouldn't touch and you had 20 year old vans in so much better condition
Exactly Jonathan 👍
Easy way to turn on a torch, say "ok google, Lumos" to turn off say "ok google, Knox" on android phones
A real eye opener. Seventy grand? I don’t think so!
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Its not that bad making a meal out of it. Fix everthing for less then a thousand damp can be fixed
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good review ona poor ly kept van.. first thing i didnt like about it was the foreign type body (door on the wrong side of van ) even though itsd right hand drive, ( was this a converted left hand drive motor ? it realy just dont look like a 70 grand van even from the outside..... and owners had the cheek to say its excellant, did stevie wonder own this ? the few knocks and scratches in the garage i could put up with and think the makers should of made that area a bit more substantial to take a few knocks and brusises, but again its 70 grand ...
Jason your not been pety about the iittle things but its a lot of money .People need to look after their vans..
Very true Pippa 👍
I don’t think that’s been a private owned one most take pride in their camper-van I think this has been a hire one
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I bought a new swift caravan and was so many faults swift are a bad company 😢
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And curtains are missing from N/s lounge window too😂
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On your iphone you can ask siri to turn on or off torch.
Don’t dealers review the condition of a van before agreeing the trade in value??
Yes Kate thats why we didn't buy it 👍