MOVED ON BY ANGRY LOCAL! Why this Village hates Camper Vans
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- čas přidán 3. 02. 2024
- I found the perfect little park for for over night stealth camping only to have my morning interrupted by an angry local that did not want me there.
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We camped a lot when I was growing up. Mom and Dad always made us walk the area and pickup any trash we found. When we asked why they always said the same thing “You should always leave a place better than when you came”. Thanks for being such a good example.
Locals of the area appreciate it too. I clean the whole area before I leave. I take garbag others left behind
No overnight camping. Doesn’t say unless you pick up a bag of rubbish. I can’t see why you would want to park somewhere that is going to upset people living there. Perhaps this is why more and more signs are going up. I don’t feel the locals need to justify why you can’t stay overnight.
👏 spot on.
I know he had good intentions, but shouldn't have been surprised by a hostile reaction.
He knew it was likely to upset those who had purchase the car park/beach and worked hard to keep it usable for all.
Yes but he didn't need to act like that. You would never know this guy was ever there
Bleach belongs to the crown. Have a look at the Law.
Im with the local on this one. You knew it was a risky park up and got pulled. You broke the rules 1 Arrive late, leave early. 2. Don't be a dick if you can help it.
The guy in the van was the local. The man with the dogs is not from around there!
The guy with the dogs lives just up the road, has lived in West Cornwall for well over 20 years and puts far more into any community than anyone else i know.
Everyone wants to camp on a beach in their campervan (myself included) and so if it was allowed, the place would be wall to wall campervans. There's no camping for a good reason.
Bloke camping decided to risk it and rightly got called out, can't really complain and sticking this blokes image up on CZcams isn't really on.
The problem is too many tourists. These sandy coves are tiny and there’s literally millions of city dwellers being egged on to buy camper vans to enjoy the “freedom”.
To be fair. That wasn't the best place to park a van overnight. I though that stealth camping was about being discreet and stopping out of the way. Not right in front of the locals faces, on their beach!
he didnt say he was stealth camping
If there are no camping signs on show then it's no wonder that any locals would have a go at you and it wouldn't matter how nice you are. To say that the locals are missing a trick by not charging campers to stay on the beach is missing the point of why people live in a place like that. They couldn't careless about any monetary gain, they just want peace and freedom from the masses.
"If there are no camping signs on show" then camping is allowed. Of course, if there are 'no camping' signs on show, then it isn't.
@@petergroves3153 Precisely, which is why the locals are peeved.
@@user-yb9ww6lv7j Though my point was about the crucial importance of punctuation in conveying meaning (I trust it registered with you). What you wrote was the opposite of what you meant.
@@petergroves3153 I saw the punctuation but from what I remember, as the article was months ago, there were signs up saying 'no overnight camping', which is why I said that it is no wonder the locals are peeved.
I will put a sign on the road don’t drive here, just to be an entitled person. The don’t own the place they need to stop
I am puzzled by the support for someone staying on an area which is clearly signed not to. Then people wonder why campervans get a bad name. Personally, if I read those signs and/or as you did from your research, then I would simply find somewhere else.
It was a protest! Too many second homes in this town when young family’s are forced to live on the street. STOP SECOND HOMES!
Exactly. I don't get the comments supporting him for 'handling the situation well'. There wouldn't have been a situation to de-escalate if he hadn't broken the rules. He knew about the signs, then argued when confronted. Why should the rules have to be changed to his liking? Just go somewhere else. Geeze. The entitlement!
People are criticising the local but I'd be angry too if I kept seeing people ignoring the signs everytime I walked my dog! It must get so tedious.
@@LoveSundays at what point in the video did you say this was a protest against 2nd homes? was anything on your van visible to the locals stating this?
I agree that 2nd homes should be banned as they force prices above what the locals can afford. i also agree that allowing overnight stays for a charge would be sensible, however at this location, at this time, with signs indicating it was not permitted I'm afraid you were entirely in the wrong.
In many places there is nowhere else because councils put them everywhere (as they have done in Fareham & Gosport) even though they have no legal force (unless accompanied by a displayed fine for contravention), its performative punishment.
Many years ago there were very few regulations and laws.
The regulations only turn up to limit bad behaviour.
There is no way to explain my attitude in full, but briefly Human nature fits better with the carrot than the stick.
Reward good behaviour. People who "leave no trace" (or better, leave it better than when they arrived), morally speaking, are part of the solution, not part of the problem.
But the letter of the law too often takes precedence of the spirit of it. Regulations and laws are bad at telling the difference, up until you get before a judge and jury, which is too expensive to be practical.
Great idea to pick up a bag full of plastic off the beach . If everyone did that it would be brilliant ! But sorry the Old fella was still right,I can see his point . If you let one do it you will soon have loads of vans on the beach taking liberties .
Privately owned no camping. The local village should get a PCN camera system fitted that will solve the problem.
Just because there is a suitable place to stop doesn not entitle you to stop there. Often someone has moved there and attempted to enclose land/beaches thus denying other use so locals have had to challenge and then correct the ownership. I am sick of people saying what others SHOULD do with their property - as in have a camper site, allow fires, allow dogs, etc.
Just because someone put a sign there doesn't mean it is his property.
Do you not see the irony in your comment?
😂😂😂
No camping overnight means just that.
The man was fair with you.
He explained to you why there is no campung, perfectly vaykid reasons, you don't live there and dont know the issues there may have been. He tells you there is a campsite up the road, use it. You go on about a night charge, who is going to administer and monitor it?
I do actually know the area as I’m from the area that man with the dogs however is a migrant
@@LoveSundays I don't understand the implication or the point of saying he's a migrant. Many British people internally migrate or migrate to other countries as well.
tiny pps standing up for other tiny pps is what this comment looks like to me
@@Brandon-bc5um what does "pps" mean?
I understand his point he’s just frustrated with people taking the Michael.
Respectfully and objectively speaking, a big white van parked up on a pretty shingle beach taints the aesthetic. Unfortunately, we now live in a society where reactions to misdemeanours are ridiculed more-so than the misdemeanours themselves.
Yes sir
Just because it's a good spot does not give you the right to camp there. It clearly does state no camping no matter how much 💩 you clear up. You cleared up because you Knew you would get hassle. If you want to camp then do so where you can or, an actual camp site. You knew you were in the wrong.
He wanted to avoid paying for the camping further up the road. You are actually ruining it by camping there!
stopping somewhere overnight where you know you shouldnt, yeah youre doing great things for the van community!!!! well done. just dont do it! guess you just feel entitled to do what you want!
We've been campervanning for well over 20 years. If a place says 'no camping' or whatever, guess what? We don't stop overnight there! I've no idea what your point was.
I’ve been camper vanning for nearly 30 years and these illegal signs are popping up all over and if no one challenges it we will lose all our freedom. I’d much rather pay a fine and park there then let this country turn into somewhere that’s has even more rules and control
@@LoveSundays Honey you don't look old enough to have been camper vanning for nearly 30 years!
@@barbarakrall1184 thank you 😊. I’m 40 and up until I was old enough to drive and own my own van I grew up in a family of camper vanners
@@LoveSundays Well, oh to be 40 again. I am 72. Happy to still be around! That does explain, cause I did not think you could be 50! What a life you have had! I hitchhiked across Canada, that was acceptable in 1971.Still want to make a movie about it.
well said
I’d had enough before 3 minutes
Your “plan” was obviously to get a reaction fir the sake of a video
Exactly . Likes to cause his own ‘ dramas ‘ . Scary stuff … not .
exactly I am not subscribing to this entitled channel
The more I see of this, the more I agree more with the good camper permit idea you had several videos ago! Regardless of right or wrong, I never approach anyone with such a aggressive tone especially when the dogs are taking him for a walk. Always be pleasant even with confrontations.. well done for being calm.
If it says, 'no overnight stay,' don't!
We full-time and the sign said no camping and a sign with a red line through a motorhome. On this occasion you are wrong . Dawlish warren tried to allow overnight parking, within 4 weeks it turned into a sh.. house
Good job with cleaning up the beach and also talking to the local man about your opinion and offering some advice. I was nervous when you went outside during the night. But I figured things were okay or else there would not have been a video. Way too cold for me to be sleeping in a van, heater or no heater. Glad you were able to make it thru wearing all of your clothes!
Tbh don't think you have an argument.theres signs saying no camping.and you camped there ? Anyways he probably wants it for his self to let his dogs run wild
Unless a sign has clear penalty charges and properly authorised they are illegal.
Privately owned but still a public space
Well by that rule Shaun would have to pack it all in. So would I and lots of responsible people. I don't care about signs in public areas. Beaches and woodlands are mine
i remember a sign which said " Arbeit macht frei ([ˈaʁbaɪt ˈmaxt ˈfʁaɪ]) is a German phrase meaning "Work sets you free" or "Work makes one free". The slogan originates from a 1873 novel by Lorenz Diefenbach. It is known for appearing on the entrance of Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps" rules are made by tyrants and rules are made to be broken ! in my humble opinion !!
i remember a sign which said " Arbeit macht frei ([ˈaʁbaɪt ˈmaxt ˈfʁaɪ]) is a German phrase meaning "Work sets you free" or "Work makes one free". The slogan originates from a 1873 novel by Lorenz Diefenbach. It is known for appearing on the entrance of Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps" rules are made by tyrants and rules are made to be broken ! in my humble opinion !!
He left out the fact the van campers shit in all the hedges
I'll shit in your hedge in a minute if you don't pack it in
I thought that was badgers?
yes happends to me alot, when shitting in the forest... next time i arrive huge sign camping not allowed. i wonder why? its not private land... oh found out the dogs love the poo poo... heard many screams of dog owners. the frustration when they find my taco bells remains... but the paper is the worst. always take toiletpaper in a bag with you... seen paper laying for 3 years in the same spot..
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@@johnsmith-zv1lo I don't use paper me!
They shouldn't charge people to stay overnight there because those type of situations ruin the landscape. I grew up and I'm from Seattle Washington, and the increase of urban campers has destroyed our local beaches, it's polluted our waterways, and now a glacial lake that I grew up next to called bitter lake is completely and usable because of the camping that has taken place. The campers urinated and defecated into the lake, which is small, and it caused a whole bunch of algae bloom and that has killed off all the local fish, the entire West portion of the park has been partitioned and fenced off permanently until they go through a complete bio overhaul which includes soil removal, soil replacement, replacement of native plants that were destroyed, replacement of anti-erosion landscaping, it's just a huge mess. And it's costing millions.
Makes me laugh that people move to an area then tell everyone else they can’t visit that area.
If you don’t like visitors then don’t buy a house near a tourist location.
It’s the same as people buying houses near an airport and then complaining about the noise.
Well said, great point!
@@junehall2177 That beach was there before the houses 😀
They're not telling people they can't visit the area. Unless you think the only way to visit an area is to do it in a camper van and then park up wherever you like.
He is ON THEIR LAND AMD PROPERTY.
Lol that was in its first week a fishing village of short term camping people who traded,fished and built permanent friendships.
Cornwall can be very full and I can see locals point about noise from vans at night. Not everyone is as nice as you .
It didn’t look full😂
The rest paid attention to the ‘no camping’ sign eg they were respectful. They camped in the campsite just up the road.
It is ashame that some ruin it for others but in all honesty there were signs up saying no camping but you handled it well and he seemed like an ok chap in the end,I wish England was more accommodating for us van dwellers
Staying over in a vehicle is not camping, in a tent it would be camping.On an aire it's not allowed to put any stuff out like chairs and tables, awnings etc etc. I Spain i read that the only thing allowed outside of the vehicle is levelling ramps.
so, don't put stuff on the ground outside but of course in a car you can do all sorts of stuff and no-one complains buit a campervan, oh dear oh dear.
dear
@johnquartlybishop-no7fc it's camping
Nice one picking up the trash, the more you look the more you see as until you look closer it can appear quite tidy on a shingly beach.
There are cheap fingerless gloves on Ebay with rubbery grip dots on the palm & fingers that'd be great for cold days holding the camera, drone remote etc.
Keep up the adventures!
"Fingerless gloves with dots on the fingers" - LOL
@@malgf4145 I know what I mean
❤You handled that situation very well. Cleaning up the beach area was a lovely thing to do. The man that spoke to you, he seemed to calm down, I guess he could see that you were a lovely person👏😊
There was signs up saying no camping and you chose to ignore them. Then you wondered why the locals hate campers.
Unless they have a council seal they arnt legal🤔🤔
Correct
@@user-pc9ok1sk9d It does not matter.
It is private land.
Would you like a load of campers parking up on your driveway? I think not.
I live in a moho I don't have a driveway just freedom thankyou
@@seankay8137 if is private should be closed not open to public, so somehow i have the feeling that those signs are put there by locals not by owner, Karen
One of the golden rules for 'stealth' camping is 'get there late, leave early'. I think if you'd have left around 7.30am there wouldn't have been any issues. No doubt they watched your every move and let you stay the night.
Who really wants to have to move at 7:30am ? Doesn’t that just spoil your fun ? Just do as you please as long as you leave no trace as in rubbish etc.
I’ve applied the same rules for over 30 yrs.
Never had a problem or been moved.
Overnighting has been totally spoilt during COVID and by idiots.
It’s a shame, but its own popularity will be its downfall really.
@@BurtReynoldstash No wonder, thats because you have moved yourself. Where do you move to at 6am ? and what time do you choose to arrive to be stealthy ?
@@hjpinternet1244 I’ve never moved at 6am. But I’ll leave 7.30-8. Just before it’s gets busy.
Then I’ll just go somewhere else to have breakfast.
Arrive under the cloak of darkness, don’t wave torches around. Looks sketchy AF. Blinds down, straight to bed.
@@BurtReynoldstash then what is the actual point of being in that location when you're not going to barely see it 🤣🤦🏻
Finally my Sunday morning feels complete again.... ahhhh
I admire the way the camper immediately tries to put the guy with his dog on the defensive...
1.whats the problem. X3
2.why are you shouting at me...
Guy with dog....#i didn't want to bang on your van."
3. Van guy " well you should have...."
Rule one....
Politely tell them there's no camping.
Rule two..
Do not engage in a moronic back and forth conversation.
Rule three.
Walk away...if they haven't left within a reasonable amount of time...call the people who actually GET PAID to deal with this stuff....
A lot of campers are pretty dense ...they go to the most obvious spot to camp....why not just drive somewhere ...get there about 10 or 11 at night.....leave about 8 or 9...
Only a moron camps during the afternoon in a spot signed as no camping....its asking for a confrontation..
Tbh The amount of camper vans and small RVs I see bassically blocking entire pull-ins off in Scotland, so no one else can park over night. I had one couple explain to me that they'd planned on being at a spot that night and didn't want anyone else around - it was the only suitable pull-in for 17 miles.
Well done Shaun. a tricky situation which you both handled with respect and the local chap will now know theres at least one decent guy out there in a camper and maybe he will have a better opinion knowing he met one. Much respect as always- Kenny
I doubt he thinks he’s a decent guy. He’s the guy who thought the rules didn’t apply to him and then buggered up his peaceful dog walk
@@christinedunn5709 please note that I said "maybe"
Exactly how did it bugger up his peaceful walk, were the dogs complaining @@christinedunn5709
You handled it well, and he did lighten up which was good. I wouldn't have got out at 1. No chance.
I wild camp all over Devon and Cornwall. And honestly cannot remember seeing a mess from campers anywhere. I've seen take away bags and cans from time.to time and am sure this is not campers. But like you I pick it up. Great video.
Nice video Shaun great beach clean and a good conversation with the local gentleman. I know the beach well and i agree with your suggestion of one night only. Thanks for sharing as always.
Cheers for standing up for most campers we love the outdoors & so of us often tidy beaches. It's the minority spoiling it for the majority. I love your adventures keep them coming.
He turned out to be a nice guy. All it takes is communication.
If you know you know 🏖️…
Yes sometimes it just better to talk about it
Some nosey old sod
Lol - or follow the rules, as written on the clear sign.
It’s a difficult situation but they’ve made it very clear they don’t want MHs camping there. Tbh I understand, we have the same problem with Vans parked everywhere where I live, tiny beach car parks full of MHs.
In the summer in Scotland there’s far too many MHs so that every view is blocked by them. Visitors and locals alike can’t visit some beaches because of MHs We’ve gone to great expense to provide Aires in some of the most beautiful places but they won’t use them because they have to pay a minimal charge. Cemetery car parks are full but of them too so locals have had enough now. The situation is only going to get worse . I know some won’t like what I say and I mean no disrespect Shaun, I love your videos but respect locals wishes and you’ll find them helpful. That man was wrong too by being confrontational
Nice to see you back Shaun.
he dos not sound from cornwall another inport wanting it to them self .
Just had another thought the pub would of been open if the place was full of locals you should do a vid showing how many lights are off in the surrounding houses that's a good indication of holiday use homes !
Or, the publicans run throughout the summer without a day off and use January/start of the year to close down for a well earned break? As is quite typical in the hospitality trade....
Lights don't indicate much, in my Mum's road there's not a single light visible but every house is occupied.
A lot of people involved in the tourist trade do so well, especially from holiday homes, cleaning managing, maintaining etc that they will often holiday abroad in the winter. I have a holiday home even thr window cleaner has flats he let's out. Tourism is big. Not all are just left empty for Londoners to visit once in a while
@chriscarter6706 no more holiday homes whilst there’s families with no property to rent.
@@LoveSundays it's not a holiday home. It's a business Shaun. If it's not let we are there. The holiday makers are the ones buying the fudge and pasties and taking the boat trips etc etc. I meet some of the locals a lot and they love the tourist trade. The fish shop sells 90% to holiday makers. Our cleaner spends 8 weeks a year in Mauritius. We bought it to live in. And we willbe doing in a couple of years
I don't agree with parking somewhere that specifically says no parking. I think there should be a lot more overnight parking places though with a time limit so you don't get the permanent travellers taking over. Campsites for the week and overnight for those touring. As most people say, leave the place the same or better than when you came.
Good job on the litter pick. Private would generally point to trespass,but you handled the conflict well. 😊
when i was growing up my Mum was a Jehovah's witness, when we went to big events after we would go around and make sure the place was clear of rubbish, and that's something that has stuck with me especially when i am camping.
Great to see another video, it's a tough thing to handle that situation. Clearly he was fed up along with the rest of the village how people have treated the place and typically it is a situation of the few ruining it for the many. Hopefully you changed their perception a little?
Very well handled mate, its a shame others have ruined it for the good, respectable campers.
Look forward to next week you good to watch on a Sunday night 😊
I can totally see why they limit this. It’s frustrating trying to find a park up but every time I pull into a popular spot where a few vans are it’s noisy and ppl take over. Iv seen ppl putting fire pits in the road and filling the place to the point that the locals can’t come in and go for a walk. I’m on both sides of this one but I know it’s not everyone but there is a pattern of abuse followed by height barriers.
He will swear at the wrong person one day. No need to be so aggressive angry or not he was in the wrong. Handled it perfectly Shaun well done.
Well done on handling that so well Shaun.One part of me doesn't get how a beach can be privately owned but not enjoyed however, I totally get how things can get out of hand with some people abusing it leaving a wake of rubbish and bad vibes for the locals. It's a shame there isn't some kind of payment system so they can at least, like you said, make some money to help maintain the area and also give something back to the people that live there. Better luck with the pub and locals next time! :)
Nice one. Handled that Icey situation well
ps. The signs don't say, "oh you can stay here if you're NOT one of those rowdy types"...no, it says, "No overnight camping".
Anyone can put up a sign that’s not law abiding. The elite have no right to say they own a beach and you’re not welcome there. Some people will roll over like you but I will fight it
@@LoveSundays It's not about 'rolling over'. It's about respecting other people. And you are a disrespectful entitled brat. If nobody was allowed to even set foot on the beach, then I would agree that people should fight it. But all they ask is for no one to overnight camp on it. You are the one in the wrong.
You can't always grt what you want.
I dont understand why people think its their job to enforce roles. The car park was massive and there was no issues
Too much people love to tell other what to or not to do.
i remember a sign which said " Arbeit macht frei ([ˈaʁbaɪt ˈmaxt ˈfʁaɪ]) is a German phrase meaning "Work sets you free" or "Work makes one free". The slogan originates from a 1873 novel by Lorenz Diefenbach. It is known for appearing on the entrance of Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps" rules are made by tyrants and rules are made to be broken ! in my humble opinion !!
Probably because there are just as many who think they can break them 🤷♂️
There are lot of issues with that particular car park, which is why I won't park on it.
Little Hitlers they can’t help themselves
Don’t blame the locals getting fed up with people parking their vans on the beach and it was pretty obvious not too. But hey ho am parking anyway so what’s the problem. It’s all about trying to get some vid for CZcams SAD
It’s that type of attitude from that man that stops me from going to places like Devon and Cornwall, much prefer to go abroad where they welcome you with open arms plus the weather is so much better!
Unfortunately I find the uk 🇬🇧 so unwelcoming
Yep I dont bother with either Devon or Cornwall on the basis of a minority of the locals who just have some pathologically hatred for those of us who have campervans. My view has always been to leave no trace, and buy locally while I am there - thus not only enjoying their community, but putting money in their economy from a passing tourist, and then leaving the place as I found it.
Its the people that dont do any of this that spoil it for the rest of us.
@@DS-cf1zc It's not just campervans there is a strong anti-tourist movement in Cornwall. It's very off putting to visit a place with tourists f off graffiti
It's a real shame because we do exactly the same.
Litter picks at most stops. But there's more and more overnight parking signs going up in the last 6 months.
Unfortunately we have to do vanlife UK 🇬🇧 full time for a while, whilst waiting for our D7 visas to come through, then we'll be back in Portugal 🇵🇹 full time 🙌🫶👍
@@not_ever When the tourism leaves, not sure how some of the area would survive. As so much of the areas require outside money to keep them afloat.
Good video mate. Totally understand the locals frustration, although with out campers and tourism, Cornwall would have even more unemployment and less money. I love taking holidays in the West Country but it is becoming so busy and expensive to stay anywhere in the area. Well done with the beach clean, safe parking away from sea, and your attempt to support the local pub!
I'm Cornish, campers bring in good money for pubs and local shops. perhaps more than holiday home owners. They buy food and provisions, meals, gas and diesel locally as a rule. I'm sure a lot more campers would use the numerous 10.00 overnight pitches if they knew where there were in the first place.
Where I live we turn a blind eye because there have never been too many in the same spots at the same time.
Maybe it's just the Doggers objecting 🤣
Apparently tourism accounts for just 10% of Cornwall's GDP, now 10% is still significant, but i know a lot of locals understandably get sick of the clogged up roads and so on in season
It’s 10% and that’s why Cornwall is one of the poorest counties in the UK. If there were more camper friendly places that income would be a lot higher.
There was a campsite just up the road, he chose not to use it.
Have you been to some of the campsites. The facilities are on occasions shocking and the pitches are awful. They also charge anywhere between £35/45 a night. Which we all know is scandalous.The fact is the UK is just becoming anti-social. If you don’t want to be a destination for camping or an attraction area to visit then ditch all the hospitality sector geared up to it.
Yes, good on the local, rejecting money to protect the environment and their community. If a sign says ‘no camping’ then … I don’t know what else there is to say.
I can understand their issues with camping.they probably fed up with vans and camper vans parking up outside their homes and also with rubbish problems. But on the other side, if they're thay bothered, make areas specifically for vans and pot facilities in to encourage them to use them. The money that's collected could be used for the area. As for the situation, u were very respectful and he should have been the same swearing and mouthing off isn't the answer
No why should they make areas for vans?
Loved the way you dealt with him.....deescalated the situation and he went from being g a sweary cockwomble to an OK guy who apologised and explained the issues they have had. Good to have you back fella
Cockwomble ? Oh excellent!
Nice beach to stay on, but the lanes down to it are quite tight in places, love the pub there, sitting outside watching the sun go down with the friendly locals (there are some around 😂) with a beer- heaven
Class, love the music.
Their ought to be more campsites 👍
Chap came up spoiling for a scrap then wonders why his dogs are doing the same. 'Oh don't do that' has he clings to the leads. ... you literally were just doing the human equivalent to this chap in the camper. Everyone cool the fluff down and treat each other with some dang respect
is it me or did that chap seem like he wasn’t exactly local, seems like most of Cornwall coast has all been sold to the well off pushing out the local inhabitants
I know where it is too. But I’m keeping schtum. It’s a hidden peaceful gem and needs to stay that way.
Good to see a potential confrontation end fairly amicably by talking about things. Refreshing to see these days. Well done.
Ok Shaun, as an ex copper who spent 30 years dealing with many ‘angry’ people, I thought you dealt with that situation brilliantly. Yes, you may have been in the wrong, however, you justified it with a very positive discussion.
I know wild camp in my van, it is becoming more difficult to find good spots, so I enjoy your travels!
That means a lot thank you
Arguably the best comment on here
With all respect being an ex copper isn’t the be all. He was in the wrong, period. That isn’t justified because he tied up yet another local in an entitled conversation. Can they not just enjoy their morning walk, in their home area without having to debate camping yet again. The sign says no camping and there’s a campsite up the road.
@@christinedunn5709 What you need to understand is that anyone can put up a sign saying whatever they want (within reason), but it’s the law that determines whether something is lawful or not.
In my experience, most people are ignorant of the law and operate upon assumptions. If someone is making claims, he needs to be able to quote the relevant law, or he’s better off just minding his own business.
I spent years in the military, and did all sorts of specialist security work afterwards. In all that time I never approached anyone with an attitude like that bloke did. At one time I also had to handle some of the most dangerous and nasty dogs you’ve ever seen (Not my choice), until one started reacting badly to children!! I didn’t even make a fuss over that. I just parked the thing in the boss’s office and quit.
Some people like to cause drama. Others invite it. My experience is that if you treat people as you’d expect to be treated yourself (The Golden Rule), most people are good. Gypsies, Muslim gangs, drunks, dangerous psychopaths - all part of life’s rich pageant. One day I met a former enemy at an exhibition centre in London. The world turns.
Peace 🏴
As an ex cop, you will also know Shaun was not in the wrong technically, as trespass is a civil offence and he needs to be told to leave before it becomes trespass. As you say he handles he situationvey well.
Know these villages well as deliver to them, the Car parks overlooked by the village so u can't take a walk without curtains twitching. Problem is the vans that like he said take the piss , have fires and noisy party's and leave there shit. That small percentage is what unfortunately ruin it for the rest of us. You got it right charge for 1 night max be ideal. The divers charge and got a cool spot not far from there I know stopped there before, also up the road roskillys charge for overnight parking which is great not as nice view but handy to know. Although I saw a fella park up there towing a bloody caravan which again took the piss. Keep up the good vids fella. Same thing fukt it for little fistral over here in Newquay, the long term parking rowdy parties etc.
Hi bud I am in Scotland and some of wild camping spots have been trashed and ruined but I am like you pick up other people's trash and still get grief from the locals awra best Harry
Lived there for 9 months in the 90s...it’s magnificent, no wonder no one wants ‘everyone’ turning up in vans etc
"they should just have people stay for one night" bro, thats not how it works. the people leaving trash everywhere ARE the same people who would take advantage of the one night rule 🤣
It seems that the locals are best left alone, But you did right to let him that we are not all tarred with the brush. Maybe they will in time change their ideas when it is relised they could make some money for area.
Really nice to clean the beach
I can understand the chaps point that campers are not welcome in their village but there’s no need to start off swearing at you - he was obviously looking for a confrontation from the get go. I live in a village on the north coast of Cornwall and we have a lot of campers stay all year round. It’s great because our pubs also stay open all year to cater for the tourism. Most campers are respectful and tidy up - not all though
North Coast here too ! ❤
There is a great need to start off swearing at him, he did see the signs and as usual with ALL the motor home/van camper types they ignore them with a self entitled attitude. Even on campsites were there are allotted spaces you see the van people ignore the allotted spaces and plonk their oversized heaps where ever and then hog water feeds or pour there waste down toilets.
@@Chris66able I accept that people do not like campers ignoring the signs. I disagree with the aggressive and chav behaviour of swearing and looking for a conflict. I believe a courteous discussion would have a more positive outcome for both the locals and the campers
@@Nick-gm7ng The lack of courteousness started when the entitled camper ignored the sign, and the aggression started with him, jumping out and shouting " what's the problem " repeatedly, not the other guys fault he totally bottled it !
@@Chris66able I disagree Chris. Unless the other chap is the land owner, it’s not really his place to be confronting people. He was just trying to intimidate whoever was in the van. Could’ve been a female. Could’ve been someone with children. Swearing and shouting like a thug - not cool in my opinion
I know where you were Shaun, I once had an issue there with the locals when using the dive centre. Well done on talking to the bloke calmly & putting your point across. Did you see Ben Fogle this week on TV doing a programme on van life people?
My brother is looking to buy a pub by the sea. He’s ex Navy chef. That place looks perfect.
The cabal in Westminster don't want people living in camper vans, that's why they are doing their best to outlaw it after all we are all being milked by them
His frustration is probably well-founded, but it's hardly the way to express it. Thought you handled it very well. People often turn reasonable when confronted directly.
A couple of cheap cameras would give you peace of mind without having to get out of the van and look around!
Great vid - thanks.
Nice one Shaun, you handled that very well. Cheeers max
I completely understand where the guy is coming from, imagine how full that beach would get in the summer with vans and let's face facts not every one is clean and respectful.
Sheer numbers of visitors would completely ruin the charm of the place and would devalue local properties and make their lives miserable for at least half the year.
Enjoyed the video, sandwich looked nice , seeing as you have plenty of power in the van have you considered using an air fryer/grill (ninja) cooks just about everything with little fuss and no steam and fat hanging in a small space.
When ever I find myself in similar situations, I smile inwardly, have a little chuckle & think of nonsensical sayings. e.g. 'You can never plan for people' as well as 'How can I fly like an Eagle when I'm surrounded by Turkeys' You're a good guy that doesn't impact on others, yet all the NIMBY's & sad unhappy people try to impair their vitriol toward anyone that doesn't comply with their miserable contained ways. I support your way of life 100%. As the Surfers would say in the 80's 'Go for it'
I know where that place is, and just checked on their website...
"Due to a number of reasons we do not permit overnight camping of any sort on this beach
- no tents, vans, campers, caravans etc -
PLEASE DO NOT OFFEND OR UPSET THE RESIDENTS OF ******** BY IGNORING THIS
Legal campsites with lovely facilities are available nearby"
I don't know if they put this up before or after your visit, but I agree with you; they're missing out on what could be a vital income stream if they 'policed' it more warmly. As you say, he turned out to be quite reasonable, but he could have opened a little more calmy.
A big chap comes flying out of a van at him & he's supposed to be calm?
The problem is 90% of camper van owners have zero interest in camp sites that are now charging £25-30 a night - absolute total rip off & make going out in the van financially impossible, we need a campaign to get sensibly priced park ups, well, frankly, free parks ups - like the rest of the evolved world, the UK is draconian in these terms.
what part of we dont want people camping on our beach do you not understand would you welcome somebody who just turned up and stopped on your front garden against your wishes ? no didnt think so
Yum! Got me taste buds yearning. Great video. Loved your pillow idea in the air vent. Might try that.
Hi another great video 👍the thing is the bag of rubbish that you collected (and well done for that) wasn’t from people staying overnight or mistreating it it’s just what’s washed up on the beach, and it’s locals tarring everyone with the same brush, but I do understand if I was lucky enough to live in a beautiful location like that I’d probably be protective over it too, and like you said there is always someone that spoils it for others 😢 that’s why I mainly stay on a camp site as I hate confrontation ..
Well we were here no more than 1 month ago. And the same bloke with the same dog said we could stay round the corner in his mate's garden for £25. That's hilarious. He was in the pub at the time. What a nob.. keep on trucking Shaun.
That’s interesting 🤔
There's a camera, it's no surprise he didn't talk about "his mate's garden".
@@alanhat5252 yeah. It was the fact that they didn't like campervans unless they parked in his mate's garden for £25. So funny. Anyway we parked up not far away for nothing. It's crazy as the pub would do really well in the quieter months.
think he needs to control them dogs..... About time we fought back, it's not necessarily van lifers leaving junk, it's people pulling up with fish and chips and pushing their rubbish out the window.... mainly younger folk but not exclusively!
Private or residential, nobody wants us! doesn't help that a few van lifers overstay their welcome....
Free country but respect it!
@@chriscarter6706 If they had an arrangement, whereby you have a few drinks and perhaps a meal in the pub, you can park there overnight. other places do.
He wants to get control of his dogs!! What a Karen…
Yes, why don't you go and 'meet him' as you said elsewhere and tell him what a tool you think he is while exposing what a tool you're. 👍👍👍👍
@@ZerogagREFLEXX calm down Karen!
@@miketaylor1916you're the one writing about wanting to meet people you clown
You delete your original comment about wanting to meet him didn't you 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was good to witness that he climbed down and responded to you with a lot more respect during your conversation with him 👍. Who needs confrontation after these past few years in the world eh 😕. Think the villagers/owners have a bit of a dichotomy. On one hand they'd like cash donations for the 'upkeep' (therefore welcoming daytime parking?) but for some reason they view some of these same people who have donated to park as unwelcome, messy louts after dusk - all because they own a van (not a car) & have slept in it for a few hours. It's ludicrous. Cars often bring a multitude of different types of visitor to these places - some leaving rubbish and some being loud and unsociable - just because they don't stay the night in a van doesn't make them a 'better customer'.....but they'll take their 'donations' thank you very much & not direct them to leave 🤷 Wonder if things will change for the better over the coming years for people out and about in their vans 🤞🏼
You broke the rules, simple. Dont know why its so hard for people to accept when they have messed up. Like the morons on the road who flip you off when they cut you up and think that you are in the wrong for giving them a little toot. Everyones happy to live their lives, but when it impacts on someone else through their selfishness and desire to just do what they want, they get all up tight about it and try and tell those who are right for pointing out the rules and requests, that are there for good reason,that they are the ones in the wrong for not just pampering to their needs with full unmolested compliance.
The man's a hero, what a legend!! No camping means no camping. You clearly did it looking for a reaction!
100% agree.
EFUDIK.........ILLEGAL, NO OVERNIGHT PARKING SIGNS,MEAN SWEET F☆CK ALL.......
Entitled. If people own the property you have no right to be there. Yet, it’s all about views and comments to make money. Teach your children well.
Great video and well done on your beach clean , he was cross at first but turned out to be a nice guy , keep the videos coming me and my partner Steve look forward to them every week x
I thought that guy was going to be a right thug, but actually he was pretty decent. Two grown adults having a proper mature and respectful discussion in the end. Wish more people would communicate rather than just punching each other or shouting abuse at each other. Well done to you both for actually being decent adults. Hehe
My home town has a cool tourist attraction with a pretty little car park. It went on P4N so the vans started arriving. Despite great toilets, and 4 bins, Ive seen rubbish dumped and human waste behind bushes. Cassette toilets splashed all over the disabled loo and greasy grey waste released all over the floor. I'm a fulltimer and Im ashamed to be associated with these people. I can see why this village don't want vans staying. You say we're not all like that, which is true, but there are a lot who are!
Great video, just a shame about the guys confrontational attitude. There's a similar issue up here in Aberdeen with old Cove harbour. Not the kind of place you'd want to stop overnight but it's "owned" by someone who refuses to let the local fishermen access to their boats. And despite the land being "his", it's an absolute eyesore. Madness!
i remember a sign which said " Arbeit macht frei ([ˈaʁbaɪt ˈmaxt ˈfʁaɪ]) is a German phrase meaning "Work sets you free" or "Work makes one free". The slogan originates from a 1873 novel by Lorenz Diefenbach. It is known for appearing on the entrance of Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps" rules are made by tyrants and rules are made to be broken ! in my humble opinion !!
i remember a sign which said " Arbeit macht frei ([ˈaʁbaɪt ˈmaxt ˈfʁaɪ]) is a German phrase meaning "Work sets you free" or "Work makes one free". The slogan originates from a 1873 novel by Lorenz Diefenbach. It is known for appearing on the entrance of Auschwitz and other Nazi concentration camps" rules are made by tyrants and rules are made to be broken ! in my humble opinion !!
i remember a sign which said " Arbeit macht frei ([ˈaʁbaɪt ˈmaxt ˈfʁaɪ]) is a German phrase meaning "Work sets you free" or "Work makes one free"
Keep the great vids coming . It’s inspirational and I’m hoping to go full time van life by June. 👍🏻
Thank you very much
I’m afraid the balance has been tipped now. Here in north Wales there are vans everywhere now. Signs are ignored, rubbish dumped and most of us locals have found human shit. Van owners stay for free, bring all their own food and contribute little or nothing to the local economy. The roads they travel on, the A&E departments they use, the paths on the mountains that are maintained - they all cost money. Meanwhile local campsites are losing trade. If you want people to stop getting pissed off then put your hand in your pocket and stop freeloading. I say this as a camper and lover of the outdoors.
Very well handled pal. Done with dignity and respect for the locals.as usual.
There is a sign saying no camper vans so where is the respect there ?
I know where it is but "Mums" the word Shaun. I happen to agree with that gentleman because sadly and generally speaking people have little to no respect for such places and because they may be far from their own front door they don't give a sh*t and just take the piss. Right on buddy.
Yes sadly it happens all to often. They ruin it for the rest of us