5 Things You NEED To Know Before You Buy An E-Bike
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- So your thinking about getting an electric mountain bike? But are having second thoughts due to things such as trail access, rapidly advancing technology, or fitness? In this video, Steve Jones highlights 6 things we here at EMBN think you should know before your first E-MTB purchase!
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00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Trail Access
01:45 - Advancing Tech
02:58 - Low, Mid, or High-Power
04:08 - Battery Removal
04:50 - Fitness
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i just brought my first e-bike a Scott with a bosh motor thinking it would give me some exercise after my stroke in 22 and i love it i go up hills easy and my left side weakness makes no difference it has given me my freedom to go riding again on my own the best 2k ive ever spent
I rode my Fuel EXe with a large group of people on regular MTB. I rode in the least assists possible, and let an MTB set the pace. I stayed with the pack and never felt like we were going too slow. When the other MTB riders felt like they were redlining their heart rates on big climbs, I felt tired but comfortable. Overall, nobody cared I was on an eMTB and we all had a blast riding together.
Nice, Greg! It goes to show that no one needs to exclude people just because they're on an e-bike. 🙌
Wot Steve said on pretty much every point. I've got 2 eMTBs now, have done 2500 miles in the last 12 months on my second bike alone and loved *every single minute* of it. I'm so, so much fitter now, my friends barely recognise me. Full power every day of the week for me, even though I only ever ride in eco, just because of the extra range you get with the big battery. If you're still in two minds, take my advice and take the plunge on the best eMTB you can afford, you won't regret it.
Removable battery: Living in a very cold climate and not wanting to store my bike indoors in the winter, it's requirement for me to have a removable battery so I can store the battery indoors.
all bikes have removable batteries just the ones that claim you can't need the motor to be taken out first..
yea so no battery swapping on rides... only downsides..... nothing positive for the rider at all from not being able to quickly remove a battery.
want to take your bike abroad? oh you can't because the battery... meanwhile you could remove the damn battery, still take your bike on a plane and rent a battery when you arrive at your biking holiday
Also have to take the bike to the charger, rather than just the battery. Staying away with bikes is a nightmare if you can't remove the battery
I must admit, I train on my e-bikes differently. I do a 30 or 50 mile ride as fast as possible, working out how much power I can get away with without running out of battery. Si I try and ride as fast as possible. I can hold my training zone's for longer plus faster, and can assure you if you want a really good workout. You can have it on an e-bike. People say they make you lazy and slow. It's not the bike that makes you slow, it's you. I've owned e- bikes since 2016, I just wish we could fast forward a few years where everyone has one. It's coming, it's the future. 👌🏻👍🏻 can't wait to see the new offerings from Specialized, coming soon .
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Hey Steven! You've made such a great point. E-bikes don't limit the amount of exercise you can get from a ride. It all depends on the amount of effort the rider puts in.
I'm still slow, I can just ride slowly for longer.
But to achieve the same workout you have to ride 30-50 miles as someone on an MTB only needing to go 10-15. So if your riding is "workout specific" your time and sitance is doubled. And you could easily hold your training zone longer on an MTB by simply adjusting your workout. True it's not laziness but you are using the e-bike as an excuse for how you train/workout.
Mt bikes are simply going to become E bikes. Who wants to pay for and wait for a shuttle?
Just ride back up quickly. Ive done a 55 miler on my Spectral ON in 95% ECO mode and yeah, I was thrashed, I spun the thing hard all the way.
I purchased a Norco Bigfoot VLT1 efatbike in early March. I'm 71 and with my analog fatbike I would ride the easy, less hilly sections of my local winter fatbike trails, once or twice per week. With the efatbike I rode the entire network 16 of the 1st 19 days that I had it! I love it!
I'm not many years behind you mate and understand completely. I would add that you do far more descents, which is the best part of fat biking, and mountain biking for that matter.
I had the good fortune to have tried my friend's ebike for 25km (he sells them).
First off WOW .. Just wow!
The most fun I had on a bike in years !
Bought my 1st mountain bike in 1987 (15 Speed 531 forks and 501 frame) and beem mountain biking ever since - just bought my 1st eMTB 8 weeks ago (Specialized Turbo Levo Comp), I live in the lake district and hence lucky to have loads of great routes on my doorstep. eMTB is great but I still love my analogue bike - the beauty is being able to mix them up one day legs only and next eMTB - more biking! Apart from going further and getting up stuff I cannot under just leg power (or at my limit) the eMTB is great for building aerobic fitness its just like being on a cross training machine - big work out without the stress on the joints with bike retuned to 25% assist is perfect. Extra weight of bike is big bonus on down hill too - well planted and carries momentum.
When it comes to removable batteries they do have plusses , especially for people living /staying in apartments etc .
It’s much easier to take a battery upstairs into an apartment than a muddy bike .
The bikes are lighter to handle too without batteries, which is good for older people or women
yea I have stairs as soon as I enter my place... I can run a cable and charge the bike at the only exit/entrance to my apartment and hope it doesn't cause a fire...
OR I can take the battery out of the bike and charge it in my living room... if it starts to get too hot or bloat then I can put it on the balcony in a bucket and then fill that bucket with sand.
Why would anyone want a bike where you have to drop the motor to replace the battery anyway?
And what about downhill runs at the bike park? Maybe you just want to do some downhill runs with a little less weight on the bike and take the lift up. I plan on doing that this summer.
I think the point he’s trying to make is in reference to bikes designed to be used as an ebike or standard mountain bike where they can perform with the battery in or out while the bike is being ridden
Also for people who live in cold climates. I ride my ebike all winter, many times at -10C. After the ride, I remove the battery, bring it into the house, allow it to warm up, and then put it on the charger.
Security feature too. Remove the battery when locking it and leaving it, it is less likely or less attractive to be stolen.
Your best and most useful video to date. Keep it up.
I'm 66 now and purchased a e-bike last year, which was fantastic. I can now keep up with the young guys in our group who are mid 20's. I tend to ride eco with the group, but when I'm out on solo rides, I ride a whole lot further and much faster, and come back as tired as though I was on a analog bike. In some ways more so, because it's a far bigger upper body work out on technical trails because of the speed and distance. Up hills become almost as pleasurable as downhills. Although I rarely use the higher power settings, there are times were it comes in handy. I still fat bike all winter on a analog bike, but slow down the younger crowd on climbs. That isn't always the case on descents, which is the best part of biking. An e-fat bike is next on the list. I was going to do a trip to Arizona and Utah, but canceled plans because they don't allow e-bikes on mountain bike trails. A gang of us were planning to go ride in Michigan this summer, but ended up canceled that trip because that state doesn't allow e-bikes either. Land of the free, I don't think so.
Great vid! Just what I've been waiting to watch and learn, I've now decided to buy my first emtb, it's between the new Orbea Wild and the new Cube hybrid one55 SLX, look forward to hearing your thoughts on the Cube.
I measure roughly the same HR on a E-MTB ride versus regular MTB, but fitness isn't only about heart rate. The twisting and balancing that you do on a rough terrain will solicit your core muscles and you're more likely to go on that kind of ride with an e-MTB, certainly when you reach a certain age.
Top Man . Another great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for the support!
I'm 50 years old, 26 stone, 360lbs, 165kg and went out last night and did 20 miles on my E-Mtb and loved it. Could I do that unassisted and enjoy it. Not a chance, so for me, it gets me out and exercising where as an analogue bike wouldn't - long live the e-bike :-)
I'm 70 and ride in Utah. Here in the Wasatch range, riders over 65 (or disabled) can ride an ebike anywhere. I expect that rule to loosen up. I have noticed that when I ride with my wife and keep my heart rate in a lower range, it makes me stronger and faster on rides where I open up. I'll likely get an ebke this year and I expect it will actually improve my fitness because I'll be able to stay in a more fitness-oriented HR zone.
the haibike nduro7 i have is a tank but i can get up all the hills i try, even those you can barely walk up so i fully appreciate your advice 👍
After years of hardtails and full sus bikes I bought my first emtb and it has been a revelation. It took me a few months to adjust to it and I came off a few times. First set of 29inch wheels to get used to as well. I hit the gym harder and worked on upper body strength. After a few months riding and strength gains I suddenly clicked on the bike. My fitness has i feel improved as I am out for longer and tend to push myself harder on the ebike. I have better technique now and because of the strength gains i can throw the bike around easier. The first few months were difficult but I am glad I carried on. One downside is they cost a fortune to run properly, especially if you ride a lot and tend to ride hard. Mind you my old Process was expensive to maintain as it had a hard life.
We had a good turn of weather this week and I got to ride my eMtb 2 days in a row. Both outings more than triple what I would have ridden on my non-emtbs and I rarely use a setting higher than 2 (out of 5 on giant trance e+). I feel like my handling and general tree dodging skills are advancing rapidly with the higher avg speeds and extra distance. When I ride my Anthem (analog) with only 100mm travel and totally different geometry it feels like I'm pushing that bike harder and getting more out of what little suspension it has.
yes i agree somewhat regarding the lack of advancement in e-bikes but they certainty advance in leaps & bounds on price...!
not really when you look at inflation, they all use really high quality batteries that are super expensive for the good brand motors though.
google for an article about a bosch ebike fire, doubt you will find one, but then their batteries are like 800
What most people don’t get is that riding an ebike is a different experience requiring you to have different expectations than riding an analog bike…both have their time and place. Having said that, I must admit when deciding what experience I’m looking for I find myself throwing my leg over the ebike (or as my wife refers to it, the 100% fun bike) more frequently.
That’s actually why I don’t have an ebike. The riding I want to do is better on an acoustic bike. I just don’t get in as many laps.
@gesundheitstips2197 Usually this means you should consider one of the lightest Ebikes like a Specialized SL or Orbea Rise. The main downside is the price. It's totally up to you of course, there were plenty of riders on singlespeed, hardtails and even full rigid and they (mostly) had fun.
Ebikes are just better!💪🏽😃
Facts! 💪
Well after getting my Cube HPC SL 160 and upgrading to what I want I am always on it if it’s on the trails or just riding round town. For those who say you don’t get fit try riding a EMTB with motor off trust me that will get you fit and appreciate the motor assist when you do use it.
I'm looking at this bike. How is it
@@leewilson3557 I have a 2020 model and love it, perfect downhill and jumping the weight makes it super stable. The motor is a perfect 85nm I have just changed controls to Kiox which is dead east to do and is the best. Ok so I have upgraded almost everything but the bike is the best.
@@leewilson3557 very well spec'd, ride great, easy to maintain, smooth to ride and handle really well! Had mine since September and love it!
You got it wrong with the battery thing. I need a removable battery because not everybody has a socket in the basement for charging. THATS the reason it have to be removable! ;-)
there's no positives in having to drop the motor from the frame to take a battery out.. unless your a bike shop charging for the man hours.
phones went crap when you could no longer take the battery out too.... it does nothing for the consumer
4:08 re: Battery Removal - One of the local public bike parks I go to doesn't allow ebikes, so when I go there after doing a nearby trail ride, it's nice to be able to remove the battery and hit the park. I certainly think it would be better if the park just allowed pedal-assist e-bikes, but it is what it is.
That would mean that the park workers would have to be able to distinguish between the range of different types of e-bikes - and it's more simple to restrict all e-bikes in general since there are some that look like MTBs that can reach 60+ mph. Which would not be conducive to riding safely in a contained bike park just waiting for some irresponsible fast fuck to run over a 12 year old and the park being held liable. But yeah let's just let motorized bikes into a non-motorized space.
@@uberfu lol, what? Anybody who knows anything about mountain bikes, especially those who do maintenance at a local, public dirt jump park can easily distinguish between a Class 1 E-MTB and something else, such as a throttle-operated Surron. It's really pretty simple... I suspect you know it is as well, but just prefer to be a gatekeeper.
@@uberfu Your a little out of touch, 60mph is a E motorcycle with no pedals, big difference. They dont look at all like an EMTB. Where mt bikes or e bikes go fast is downhill, a manual mt bike is way lighter and goes faster on downhill, much more maneuverable than a 53lb e bike.
In the state Im in E Mt bikes are allowed on any trail an amish mt bike is on, they rent E mt bikes in many places near the trailhead. There arent any more problems with e bikes than there are with manual bikes.
A hooligan can ride either and go too fast in the wrong area.
You sound vehemently anti e bike, that's your right. The last Mtb trail area I went to, we saw 2 manual mt bikes, and about 35 E Mt bikes. Wave of the future.
My first e mtb arrives next week. Can't wait. Still be taking my Bossnut with me to Glentress. By the time I get up to Spooky Woods I'm knackered. I'll do it two or three times now
The multiple runs is certainly a huge advantage but riders don't realise how much more fun a lot of XC stuff is with the climbs being almost as much fun as the descents. In the Winter, the mud slows a push bike so much that it's a huge downer, with an Ebike the joy is still on. Whether you can afford the Winter attrition of parts on an Ebike is up to you.
I definitely got unfit from riding my e-bike because I just want to boost everywhere! It’s awesome😂
But I still ride my analogue as well for shuttles, fitness and when my battery runs out 🤘
That's what happens when riding bikes is your only form of working out
Nice, Nick! At least you're getting the best of both worlds. 👍
@@embn all bikes are awesome!!
@@downhill64 Why I like e bikes.
I also like xc bikes and enduro bikes.....
@@embn IDK ... kind of counters the point you all tried to make in the video about riding e-bikes not being lazy.
Hi steve ok im sold enough to try atep away from my stumpy evo 26. Your vid on the spectral on was compelling. In your opinion is the size chart on the money? Im 1m71 putting me in S. My M spesh sometimes felt compact... geo charts look similar from S canyon to my old M spesh. I have ordered the S after quick test, felt at home but doubts linger. Whats your take pls
I’ve not noticed any drop in fitness riding me e-mountain bike whatsoever just the only thing I have noticed is I have no joint strain whatsoever which is a massive plus +
yea ride normal bike, get sciatica in your leg... 6 months later your probably still feeling a twinge when you try to cycle...
only thing hurting on an ebike if your ass from all the extra hours you ride
@@anonymousone6075Everyone has a favourite saddle, mine is the SDG Bel Air Cromo, a proper saddle with more comfort and you can perch on the nose for the super steep pedalling without needing a proctologist. Just put one on my SL as soon as I got it, Specialized saddles are made of wood. 😂
If you buy a Bosch powered eMTB, you may be disappointed by their reliability. I certainly am
I had to purchase a DU after the 4th one gave up.
Now n then I'll approach a big hill with lots of enthusiasm and bravery and turn off all assist modes 🙄🤦🏻♂️ I usually lose that enthusiasm half way up 🤣 but I try not to climb too much using turbo or emtb modes as I still want my legs to get a work out lol. Only at the end of a long ride will I drain that juice trying to get home lol.
I really want one, the only thing that bugs me and keeps putting me off is the need for standardisation between motor & control components. For example if I’m out and pushing it and end up having a off and i break my display/controller mounted on the bars lower/ higher models may not be compatable with current set up. Slightly annoying as I have saved up enough for one.
Well said! Especially with the last topic. Plus this encourages you to ride more and more E-bikes are the future
Battery removal. One extremely valid reason for that is commuting in cold weather, I mean actually cold, like -20 celsius degrees. I don't have a car and I use my bike for everything all year round, commuting, grocery trips, mountain biking etc. and that means I have to leave my bike outside sometimes. I don't want to leave my battery in the cold for 8 hours 5 days a week. Battery removal is one of the first things I look for in an e-bike, if it doesn't have it, I'm never going to even consider buying it.
There are different kinds of bikers out there. Not everyone is like you, drive a car, bike for a minute and then drive back. What an absolutely ignorant take.
So if an e-bike does not have a removable battery and the battery eventually dies - is it like a pair of Apple EarPods where you have to trash the expensive purchase and buy a new one ? Or is the battery then ONLY serviceable by a shop with an excessive bench fee ? The video commentary regarding removeable batteries made no sense and had zero context !!
Well the only thing is why seat post, t type transmision, smart shocks are not integrated on ebike battery. Will avoid using so manny batteries on the bike, see.
1 for transmision
1 for dropper post
1 for front shock
1 for rear shock
1 for light.
Removing a battery is important for those that intend or do fly with their bikes. Hence getting Kenevo SL’s, with this I can remove the battery and fly with extenders
I can't think of a single reason why someone would want a battery they can't remove..... unless your designing a bike frame and want to save a few dollars on costs...
Not very clear the translation on the comment mid vs heavy power: don't worry, but it is a different sport? Can anyone clarify?
Can you guys do a test running an e-bike only on a 160wh range extender. I’m interested in the ability to use an e-bike after flying somewhere with it. 🤙
just rent a battery
There's so much focus on high-end EMTB components which is fine, except there doesn't seem to be a trickle down effect over the years allowing beginners to get a basic dual-suspension mid-motor EMTB for a lower price, for the occasional offroad deviation whilst mostly focusing on paved paths, firetracks, etc.
that's because EMTB batteries ar elike 700, mnotors 900, then the controller is usually around 100 even if it's just buttons with LEDs.
literally a 5k bike half the money is for all the Bosch or whomever components
@@anonymousone6075 I put mine together for 2.5k. It annoyed me that most emtbs cost more than brand new beginner motorcycles.
The market just doesn't seem big enough for previous generation emtbs to keep being sold long term for less, or suppliers are purposely preventing that.
@@Ryzza5 yea I bought an Enduro EMTB recently, and I could have bought an actual Enduro motoebike for the same money brand new, they have way more engineering, way more material costs.
It's a sick joke how muchElectric bikes cost,I get the batteries are genuinely expensive when they are like Bosch ones with the expensive certification they pay for, but the actual motors being around 1000£$S ? come on now... I bet the actual motors cost only a few hundred to make, you don't really own the motor either, even if you buy a brand new motor from Bosch outside of warranty you have to give them the old one back, you can't even use it for parts or anything.
It's like you aren't buying anything it's just sold as a service with all the cost front loaded .
I love my EMTB but how all the big manufactures are handling them is anti consumer and a joke
Anyone know anything about bikes to tell me which of the below is best value for money
Cannondale Moterra Neo 3 2022
Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 HPC SLX 750
Both same price 5k
Battery removal? More choice. To me, the advantage is being able to carry a spare for those really long days. A larger extender, if you like. Leave it at home for shorter runs. 😎 Up to full power small battery, up to full power effective large battery (via 2 small), or up to full power effective mid-range battery (via small plus extender), in one bike seems like a consumer win to me.
I guess you could also have two small plus an extender, or two humungous (plus extender) if you want to get silly...🤔😁🤷♂️
First! About the only thing mtbing I’ve ever been first at 🤣🤣
🥇 We can all relate! 😂
I need to remove the battery so it doesn't freeze in the winter. I can't store the bike in a heated area.
E-bikes are not allowed at my favorite mtb area but I’m 68 going to get e-bike and ride it at my favorite riding area!
Don't we need to be able to remove the battery if we were ever to travel by air with our e-bikes? Or am I wrong on this?
yea then rent a battery at your cycling holiday location, you can't take bike batteries on a plane
@Electric Mountain Bike Network;
Ok guys I love your channel and content!
Seeing this video; how about doing a vid about a newbie who has never owned one!
I’ve got a voodoo bizango and use it occasionally
Less because of 2 dodgy discs in my back!
THATS THE REASON WHY I WANT A FULL SUSPENSION AND AND EMB and learning the tech
I’m happy to be your Guinea pig if you want to make THAT video
Thanks and laters
Jono
Riding my ebike reminds me the good times of riding my enduro motorbike. Riding technics, lines, fun going up and down, speed...All good🤩
AND you just compared an e-bike to a motorcycle !! E-bike = motorcycle !!
eMTB’s are prohibited on most of my local trails. By the same token, no one is really going to care if someone is responsibly AND respectfully riding an eMTB on them.
As most trails are multi-use, analog MTB’rs should ride the same way.
Also, what’s an example of a LOW POWER eMTB?
Lastly, wouldn’t the biggest advantage to a removable battery be charging when away from home?
just ride the trail with the motor turned off... only a matter of time until ebikes are more popular than analogues anyway... then trails are gonna have to allow them
I like the fact I can take my battery out, I can stick it on the roof rack, it's then less nick-able and I can charge it on the beck rather than plugging in a charger into a muddy socket.
5:00 i don’t agree. Even if riding mostly on eco mid switching back to manual trail bike is a real pain. My legs are getting weaker on e-bike even if i ride longer distance on e-bike. When you clibming on ebike you just switch from eco to trail or boost. On manual bike yoy try hard to climb on a bike so your legs are under a big load. On ebike on climbs the leg load is more less the same as on flat terraign
As Steve and one or two people in the comments have said too, that is on you - if you want to more of a workout on climbs, don't increase the power - continue in eco or trail for longer. You have the control, all you need is the discipline ;o)
Then choose the harder gear with the eco mode and you feel the same workout afford like a normal mountain bike 👍🏻
@@jmo2752 yes and no. People are tend to be lazy. If i can work less, i do☺
If you're riding bikes to make you're legs "strong" you're fighting a losing battle from the start
You're confusing strength with endurance
about the fitness... well I can't just agree. Few days ago I was on a test drive on EMTBs. My and my friends brought analog bikes as well. There was a guy who's fitness level was so low he couldn't do 1 loop without pushing the bike 80% of the climb. However he managed to do 5 loops on a full power EMTB in trail mode.... I absolutely do not believe that you can use full power emtb to improve fitness level.
Your looking at it wrong. If you ride slow and only use higher power, your not doing much, its because your slow and will remain slow. But, if you use middle or lower power setting and go really hard, its a great fitness tool.
Then there is pedaling absolutely flat out in trail mode racing with friends at speed, a great workout with a whole lot of sprints.
Everything you said is true 👍🏾
Steve knows it all! 😉
@@embn After 5 years of riding eMTB,s , I can only confirm. I have to admit that I am not at all interested in analog bikes anymore because there are so many more possibilities with an ebike that it is incomparable. I am currently very happy with my Turbo Levo and I think it is still one of the best on the market.
Interesting comments, I guess age & lifestyle might be a factor when it comes to fitness. For me, an ordinary guy with decent fitness level, stressing my heart to its max in Zone 5 isn’t a good option anymore. E-mtb works great, I get to choose my target training zone, going uphill or downhill, and enjoy all rides which makes me ride more often. 👍
Hey! Absolutely! This is what makes EMTBs so incredible. All the best and safe riding!
This is exactly why I purchased one in the first place. But I have been pleasantly surprised at how much fun it is tripling the riding I do in the same time as the acoustic
Only a few riders can afford a new quality E bike . how about a series on getting a good secondhand EMTB .
dood you can get a last year model for like 3k... get a job
Am i 1st here? lol
Hmm 2024 i think has been the biggest leap in ebike tech to be fair
I have 2 e-bikes now after riding hardtail’s for 50 plus years never had a full sus till I bought the e-bikes. I must say that I ride my older external battery one more than the other internal one. The internal ones may look nicer and more modern but they are a pain in the A@@s.
Way to many different mounts and bolts and just a hassle. Not being able to remove it is also pointless and stupid at best I do all my own work so don’t want to fight to get at internals if need be. Ok for the amateur that takes his bike to the LBS for even a flat. More important is how the bike handles and GEO, looks take second within reason of course. 60 NM is the sweet spot for me.
I took the plunge a year ago & have never ben happier. I love the range I get for my Trak Rail & I deffo ride further & herder than I did on my non eMTB. Get a lot os negative comments for others e.g. it's cheating, or even being told that it diminishes their riding as they did it under their own steam etc. I've decided to not even engage in such stupid, pointless arguments for now on. What do you guys think?
You be happy and they be jealous. 😂
in reality, your fitness will decrease(that's why it is important to crossride your normal bike or use often the eco mode-not only boost/turbo/etc everywhere). If you don't have any fitness to begin with, then it isn't problematic, being actually beneficial.
Agreed, my overall fitness/strength has dropped since I’ve bought a (now classed as low power) Levo SL. I ‘had’ to max out my HR when previously negotiating climbs on my analogue bike but now I don’t usually need too and consequently over time I struggle to attain my previous HR levels.
@@MrBikemadevs I am relatively new to eMTB, but reasonably fit from a long history of road/mountain biking, running and mountaineering. Based on Garmin watch data, I have noticed I still get a good active calorie count on the eMTB, but almost never get garmin intensity minutes. In effect the eMTB is giving me a solid zone 2 workout, but I rarely get into higher zones. I could push it to get there, but then that is not really what I enjoy on the eMTB. If I want a hard cardio workout, I will run either hill repeats or intervals, which I do regularly anyway.
It comes down to just how much input you actually want to put in. Many will sit back and allow the bike to do more.
I personally keep the power to a minimum and my efforts to the same as I did on my non powered bike. Difference being that I ride for the same time 3 - 4 hours but cover at least 30 - 40 % more distance
Or maybe just don't rely solely on riding a bike to keep you fit
Fitness plummet ? C'mon compared to what? How about I just purchase a motocross bike and ride to the top of a hill and then jog the level path or, better yet, ride to the top of the hill and jog while pushing the motocross bike? Hmmm, now that I think of it, that just might be a new fitness routine! 😆
Trail! Bans on e bikes? In my country I can go anywhere with whatever I want! Ah old good east europe
generally:
hub motor = regen
mid drive = no regen
Regen doesn't matter if it's flat where you ride/live.
Regen can significantly extend your range without adding weight if you have a lot of hills or have to go up/down one BIG one.
If you can also enable regen braking it can save a lot on your brakes when you're going down long/steep grades - I'm looking for dyno brakes for my mid drive bike not to get power back (a bonus) but to keep my brakes from fading/failing on, again, long/steep grades.
or just stick a dynamo on each wheel and a wind turbine on the front INFINITE POWER
Ebike are for someone who are already fit yet old and have ongoing knee injuries .. if you want to lose weight and want to become fit get a normal bike
Your muscle strength plummets though! Have you tried riding a normal bike after becoming used to an ebike? It's like riding on velcro!
then stop relying on the motor and pedal harder and faster..... no one forces you to sit ay 16mph or whatever the speed limit of these bikes are in your country pedal that bad boy to 20mph
Riding a roadbike after riding an emtb feels like flying
@@7654321asdq yea because it's easy to hit 20mph even on a gravel bike and they feel feather light, mines not geared for hills though and the end of any rides I do is a big hill :/
You can't get strong by doing millions of repititions, it doesn't work that way
I'm getting a bit fed up of emtb channel and emtb owners having to justify owning a ebike if the amish brigade don't want to buy one then don't but don't take the Mickie out of people who do need to or want to own one.
The music is too loud, annoying.
A 7-year-old and a 19-year-old were killed in a house fire Monday that officials said was caused by an e-bike battery.
The fire began on the first-floor vestibule of an Astoria, Queens, apartment building located on 46th Street and quickly spread to the second floor, where a man and his six children lived, according to local news outlet WNBC.
Aided by multiple neighbors, the father was able to escape with several of his children after climbing through a second-story window.
yea and I bet it was a cheap Chinese piece of crap battery... I don't think there's ever been a Bosch Ebike battery fire, there's a reason the big name brands make it so you can only use their official batteries
just look at what happened to the hobby of flying toy airplanes / helicopters /drones / etc.
one or two did things that got the law makers a reason to get there names and faces back in the news, of saving you from your self.
I live i the usa ebikes are not outlawed in the us you can ride one in ever state Get your facts straight before you speak
most important is to not buy bike with shimano motor ;] When warranty ends and your motor fail then the only thing is to buy new motor.. because these are non serviceable units, shimano don't sell any parts to that motors! This is electrowaste and should be banned!
Only real problem with E Bikes is that you get a lot of problems with them. Anyone who owns one will tell you that you get a lot of problems with E Mountain Bikes and they require a very lot of maintenance. It is very hard to keep one running well if you use it a lot
Grannyjone your completely out of touch. EMTB technology and durability has never been better - maybe try one
You have all got to be joking. I’ve got one, and had a lot of problems with it. So has everyone else I know of. But then even a manual full susser is very hard to keep ontop of maintenance wise. E bikes even more so
@@2011buddylee If you really ride the piss out of it you would have had to have serviced the suspension & dropper post many times in that period and changed the pivot bearings 4 times, at the VERY minimum, and that alone is a huge amount of hassle
My brother has been riding a Commecal MaxMax ebike for 4 years/2500kms. No more maintenance then any of his other bikes over the years. Zero issues with the motor/battery
Combined heart rate. Absolute nonsense.
why do most Europeans cave to limits. limiting an ebike to 20 mph is woosie
Don’t buy one, is the best advice. Just makes you lazy
Not necessarily true! 😉
My issues with ebikes are
1. they have a range, once you're batteries dead, you've had it, you can 't ride it any more, you are fighting the motor's resistance (detent torque) it's not that the bike's heavy.
2. they top out, 26kmh is not fast enough on decsents, I've founf many times I'm just coasting on DH as I'm fighting the motor, I can undrstand the limit for roads but 26kmh is just to low.
3. The bike is worthless if the battery won't hold charge, you probably won'y be able to find another battery to replace it becasue of advances.
A GMBN beanie?
I think the low power bikes are for people who don't really want to submit to an ebike.