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  • čas přidán 8. 08. 2024
  • This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. Jeff presents evidence in an attempt to solve one of the greatest mysteries of our time. Is the infamous serial killer H.H. Holmes actually Jack the Ripper?
    Jeff Mudgett seeks the truth about a deep, dark family secret. A former lawyer and barge business entrepreneur, he learned later in life of a direct ancestral line to perhaps one of the most evil men to ever live, Dr. Herman Webster Mudgett, better known as the infamous H.H. Holmes. Unable to continue normal life with such a cloud hanging over his head, Jeff set aside business life and dedicated himself to the reality of his family’s curse. What Jeff will reveal may just prove there is far more to the horror than had ever been previously imagined.
    Jeff Mudgett was a sailor, lawyer in both California and Washington States and a tug and barge business entrepreneur. That is until one fateful night, when his Grandfather, at dinner, revealed to the family the horrible secret he’d kept to himself his entire life- Jeff’s Great Great Grandfather had been Dr. Herman Webster Mudgett. Better known as H.H. Holmes. The devil of the White City. The evil genius who murdered untold scores while operating the notorious Murder Castle in Chicago during the 1893 World’s Fair. Perhaps the singularly most evil man to ever live. Unable to continue with such a cloud hanging over his head, Jeff set his business life aside, instead dedicating himself to researching the infamous legend, spending every ounce of his being attempting to disprove the tale. Unfortunately, not only was the terrible story true, but Jeff’s research quickly revealed there was far more to the horror than had ever previously seen the light of day, including the discovery of credible evidence concerning the identity of Jack the Ripper. Instead of running away from this terrible legacy, Mr. Mudgett decided to tell the world.
    Jeff’s psychological journey dancing with these devils while at the same time identifying his own soul are described in his terrifying new book, Bloodstains. More importantly, he tells how investigating the truth has turned the horror of his ancestry into the blessing of realizing the destiny his life was always meant to be: to identify and memorialize those murdered innocents whose remains lay forgotten and betrayed at 63rd & Wallace in Chicago, now a United States Post Office and once the horrible Murder Castle.
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Komentáře • 364

  • @WassDogg304
    @WassDogg304 Před 8 lety +315

    Whoever thought it would be a good idea to put this cheesy music over the speech should be fired

    • @humptydumpty762
      @humptydumpty762 Před 8 lety +15

      +Cody Wassum Ruined the talk, made it close to unbearable.

    • @silver-vo5cx
      @silver-vo5cx Před 5 lety +4

      Couldn't agree more. I wanted to hear what this guy had to say but I gave up at 1:27

    • @inkyguy
      @inkyguy Před 4 lety

      Cody Wassum, it would have been the presenter. I'm sure it was his call as to what audio, if any, to be included in his presentation.

    • @austinballard6815
      @austinballard6815 Před 2 lety

      Agree!

  • @JeffreyLeeBlake
    @JeffreyLeeBlake Před 8 lety +177

    For hell sake! Just take a second, and have someone fix his bloody mic!

    • @landonjames6488
      @landonjames6488 Před 8 lety +8

      +Jeffrey Blake geez i know! i'm about to reach through the screen and ripper it off him

  • @BillyRogan
    @BillyRogan Před 7 lety +57

    Save 6 minutes of your life and skip the video to 6:10 to pass over this repetitious, long and boring introduction. Good grief.

  • @serialced
    @serialced Před 9 lety +158

    What is up with the distracting and to be honest, annoying bg music??!

  • @martin36369
    @martin36369 Před 8 lety +29

    7.20 "It's not to prove he was in London in 1888, I'll do that later". But you don't you only show that there's no evidence he was in America!

  • @AllunaWhispers
    @AllunaWhispers Před 7 lety +47

    It's literally painful to listen to this guy talk...

  • @connertucker5668
    @connertucker5668 Před 7 lety +84

    All I get from this is that this guy is trying to make a quick buck off his homicidal great-great grand daddy.

  • @shushan3687
    @shushan3687 Před 4 lety +19

    11:03 I am now certain that Jack the reaper was Freddy Mercury

  • @jamesbochichio9467
    @jamesbochichio9467 Před 5 lety +14

    The microphone crackling is driving me insane

  • @maxshiraz3447
    @maxshiraz3447 Před 7 lety +34

    Exhibit A - "Here's a picture of a ship that Holmes never travelled on" - that's evidence?

  • @TimyD
    @TimyD Před 5 lety +17

    I was on the production team of a Boston Ted talk, with my school, senior year of college. Needless to say, we would have gotten an F if this was our show.

  • @rangersmetalatheist9392
    @rangersmetalatheist9392 Před 8 lety +70

    One of the biggest murderer theories in history has just show that it may or may not be true. That H.H. Holmes and Jack the ripper were the same person and all everyone is talking is how annoying the music is. WTF GUYS?!!!!!

    • @jacktheripper5760
      @jacktheripper5760 Před 8 lety +10

      +Conor Gray Speak for yourself, it was annoying. 🎩

    • @pingpongwigwom4790
      @pingpongwigwom4790 Před 8 lety +11

      all his evidence is a lie. its been debunked hard.

    • @georgekane8268
      @georgekane8268 Před 7 lety +1

      Thank you Scottish.

    • @raypratt3611
      @raypratt3611 Před 6 lety +2

      That letter that he based so much on has been proven to be fake and done by a newspaper editor who wanted to attract readers and bring publicity!

    • @suziegibson9255
      @suziegibson9255 Před 6 lety +2

      holmes was not jack the ripper

  • @CornvilleCorrections
    @CornvilleCorrections Před 9 lety +30

    I guess just about anyone can give a Ted Talk these days.Had to stop it at 6 minutes in

  • @Jurassic56
    @Jurassic56 Před 4 lety +4

    That didn't convince me that Holmes was the ripper, but it couldn't hurt for historians to check it out.

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      I think sadly he left some really important pieces of info out, abs I was very surprised he didn't bring them up.

  • @legolaswong
    @legolaswong Před 9 lety +54

    That isn't Freddy Mercury?

  • @laikathunderchild5746
    @laikathunderchild5746 Před 5 lety +13

    Wow, talk about flogging a supposed dead relative. This guy just had to extend his 15 mins of fame and now link the two most famous serial killers in history...to him of course. Ripperologists must be rofl at the ridiculous premise. “Evidence “ he is using for comparison is not even proven, such as the letters. I’m not into the study of serial killer habits but even I know they tend not to change their MO so drastically. Killing in privacy inside to a grotty alley in a public area.... Also I suspect HH would have stuck out a mile with an American accent in East London in 1888.
    Delusional conman like his ancestor.

    • @FedeMayhemile.
      @FedeMayhemile. Před 4 lety +1

      Yepp, this guy just want fast easy money, the genes can be accurately tricky sometimes.

    • @holygrale89
      @holygrale89 Před 2 lety

      100%

  • @mikecwiklinski6999
    @mikecwiklinski6999 Před 7 lety +24

    It's nice to see that making money off the murders of innocent people runs in the family

    • @Hadihadi-wr8mt
      @Hadihadi-wr8mt Před 6 lety +3

      1. Why does it seem like he is so proud to be descendant of a serial killer? I mean it seems that being a close relation or descendant of a serial killer is something cool, its like become child of famous rockstar
      2. The "american ripper" a program where he linkes the clue that his ancestors were jack the ripper, more like wanting fame than thruth. This is more like want to strengthen the legacy that h.h. holmes was not only the first serial killer in america but also the most famous killer in the world.
      3. Its more like america doesnt want to outdone by anybody, even about serial killer. Who care who is the killer with the most victims. Does having a serial killer with the most victims become the pride for country?
      Indeed serial killer give us fantasy about someone that outside the norm. It make us interested to them. But dont let us admire it because thats mean we glorify the killer

    • @JH-xc4ur
      @JH-xc4ur Před 5 lety

      @@Hadihadi-wr8mt 1. Exactly; 2. Exactly; 3. Exactly.

  • @martynscotton5492
    @martynscotton5492 Před 8 lety +30

    On every podcast I've listened to this guy he makes wild claims that he can't back up. The true sign of a lier is someone that gets all angry & defensive when they are asked genuine questions about facts & evidence to back up their claims. All he does is dance around the questions talking in riddles & saying he can't show the public his evidence for legal reasons, well I'm sorry but if you can't produce any real evidence for any of your claims don't keep asking the public to buy your books, fund your stupid projects & believe your bull crap because it's all just fiction to sell your books.

    • @USADAGoldenSnitch
      @USADAGoldenSnitch Před 7 lety +2

      say that now, there is plenty of proof

    • @velvetraptor8540
      @velvetraptor8540 Před 6 lety +2

      Yeah, why don't he just pass a hat, oldstyle. Say he's got a mother with cancer or something.

  • @malcolms.8725
    @malcolms.8725 Před 9 lety +35

    Geez, can't people tell this dude that the mic is scraping against his chin?!

  • @maxshiraz3447
    @maxshiraz3447 Před 7 lety +9

    The handwriting is clearly not the same. Every letter is different in the two samples, who's he trying to kid.

    • @Semnyi
      @Semnyi Před 6 lety

      you must be a special kind of troll because they look the same to me and i trust my eyes more than i trust you.

    • @JH-xc4ur
      @JH-xc4ur Před 5 lety

      Then you would see that there is no difference between my handwriting and yours.

    • @exitoz1396
      @exitoz1396 Před 5 lety

      @@Semnyi Yes they are similar but why would he all of a sudden write really fancy and not the sloppy way. Also he even states that handwriting is not a legit piece of evidence. You would be shocked how many in the world has the same or really close handwriting as you do lol.

  • @JohnPertwee
    @JohnPertwee Před 9 lety +42

    To all of you Ripper experts, just remember this. He killed 5. H.H. Holmes killed over a HUNDRED. It doesn't matter if Holmes was the Ripper. His crimes were much more gruesome than Jacks ever were. Just because something is "widely accepted" doesn't mean it is correct.
    Read the Book Bloodstains by Jeff Mudgett and you will understand the fact that Holmes was pure evil. Well done, Jeff.

    • @sjohnson926
      @sjohnson926 Před 8 lety +10

      You must be Jeff's friend or relative to be so supportive of a bunch of hogwash.

    • @dartanganoswald1775
      @dartanganoswald1775 Před 8 lety +13

      +JohnPertwee There's zero evidence to back up Holmes killing over 100 people. He confessed to 27, most of which cannot be confirmed. That's not saying he didn't kill over 100 people, but, there's zero proof of that.

    • @zachsorenson1382
      @zachsorenson1382 Před 7 lety +8

      D'Artangan Oswald you could say he confessed to 28 not 27 because one of his victims was pregnant

    • @sambosmummy
      @sambosmummy Před 5 lety +1

      HH Holmes only killed about a dozen people, the number has been exaggerated over time and through Chinese whispers

    • @doncaramelo2147
      @doncaramelo2147 Před 2 lety

      Holmes was known for being a bullshitter... he said only 2 people first then he said 27 people and then he said he only killed 3 girls

  • @FailFries
    @FailFries Před 5 lety +4

    Here from "Random Thursday's" on Joe Scott's channel.

  • @davidgrubb36
    @davidgrubb36 Před 7 lety +4

    Oh my gosh!!! Where is Holmes when you need him!?! I wanted to hear what this guy had to say but after listening to him smack on the microphone for 2 minutes I had to smash my phone with a hammer so it couldn't hurt anyone ever again.

  • @amirat.9805
    @amirat.9805 Před 5 lety +12

    I'm pretty sure Jack the Ripper was Charles Allen Lechmere (Cross) though, but of course there's always room for doubt. However, the evidence against Lechmere is strong, whereas for Holmes' it's virtually non-existent. About that letter: to me the writing didn't seem that similar actually, but as Mr. Mudgett said, handwriting comparisons aren't admissible in capital cases today (because they've been so inaccurate in the past), so Holmes would most certainly NOT be extradited to England to stand trial for that reason. That picture looks a lot more like Lechmere than Holmes to me, to a shocking degree of accuracy. Also, there's precious little evidence proving Holmes ever traveled to England and absolutely nothing linking him to the Whitechapel Murders, not to mention none of the murders were in the style or method of Holmes and also lacked his common motives. It's also remarkable that Holmes, who was known to confess to many of his crimes, including ones he didn't even commit! (Confessing to murders of people who were later found to be alive), didn't once in his life even elude to being Jack the Ripper. And honestly, an egomaniacal, narcissistic, psychopath never once claiming some of the world's most infamous murders seems really odd to me and not at all in character for Holmes. I mean, Holmes even published his confession in the newspaper, never mentioning the Ripper Murders. Thusly, I believe this is wishful thinking on the part of Mr. Mudgett. Anyway, like this entire sprawling essay about this video, it's just my opinion. I make no claim to possess the Truth, and I'm not trying to put anyone down for presenting something new...except maybe the person who added that piano music.

    • @markrymanowski719
      @markrymanowski719 Před 2 lety +1

      Lechmere was a law abiding citizen.
      A thoroughly good man.
      He gave the name Cross because
      that was his step fathers name.
      He gave a false address also.
      I'd say that was because he didn't
      want his family involved.
      Also, he could have lost his job if his
      employer caught wind of him
      being interviewed by the police.

    • @mr16325
      @mr16325 Před 2 lety

      @@markrymanowski719 he was unusually close to the body of Ann nichols at the time of her death, mere seconds after death, and on the row there were no side streets. Nether the other witness Paul nor lechmere reported seeing another man along the row. Lechmere then refused to move the woman to see if she was alive, and lied to a police officer about there already being an officer at the scene. He then only went to questioning after he was exposed in the paper, and gave a name that he only used once, before he was a teenager. Geopolitical studies have shown that he was in the area of all 5 murders at the time they occurred. He either is guilty or the most unlucky man to be in the same place as Jack the Ripper at all times.

    • @mr16325
      @mr16325 Před rokem

      @@Chad_Max how do you explain him being in the areas at the times of the other murders too? Why was he always around the murders

    • @kenzopeypers738
      @kenzopeypers738 Před rokem

      @@mr16325 I do not really understand the whole theory of This guy. What do you people have outside of he was seen next to a body? The killer was a pretty wise man since he never got caught, only flew glimpses maybe of some passengers. Always dissapeared easily. Why would Cross be staying with the body till someone else came over and suspect him? He was a local yes probably passing the streets of whitechapel every day. There is legit nothing outside of him finding that first body and it seems so out of character of the killer to be waiting next to the body for someone else to see him. Never happened with the other murders. I always suspected Joseph barnett quite heavy.
      After Annie Chapman's death, an envelope that belonged to Barnett was found in the courtyard of Hanbury Street, who could've have lost it when he committed the murder.
      On 30 September 1888, the night of the "double event", the escape route taken by the murderer led to Barnett's home. He could even have washed his bloody hands in a fountain near Miller's Court, where he lived at the time.
      A tobacco pipe of his was found on the scene of Mary Jane Kelly's murder. If he had taken all of his belongings a few days before and no longer returned to the place, as he had said, it is not explained why this object was there.
      He would have kept the key to the room he shared with Kelly and, after completing the homicide, went out and locked the door using that key, which had not been lost, as he falsely claimed.
      Barnett was 30 in 1888, white, and spent his entire life in Whitechapel and the surrounding area. Psychological profile of the murderer
      White, between 28 and 36 years old, living or working in the Whitechapel area.
      2 Joseph Barnett's father died when his son was only six years old. Psychological profile of the murderer
      In childhood, the father figure presumably was absent or passive.
      3 Barnett worked in a fish market and was undoubtedly experienced in cleaning and filleting fish, and handling a knife. Psychological profile of the murderer
      The killer probably had a profession in which he could freely experience his destructive tendencies.
      4 Barnett was interrogated for four hours after Kelly's murder, but the police seemed satisfied with his testimony and subsequently did not appear to suspect him. Psychological profile of the murderer
      The killer probably stopped killing because he was arrested for another crime, or because he felt close to being discovered.
      5 According to contemporary news, Barnett repeated his last words spoken by his interlocutor at his interrogation. This could be an indication that he had echolalia or some other speech impediment. Psychological profile of the murderer
      The killer probably had some kind of physical defect, which very often generated frustration, anger or disappointment.

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      I agree the motives and style seem very different.
      But he did have partners throughout his lifetime of crimes & cons.
      He also owned a home in White Chappel London where the Ripper cases occurred.
      Though why couldn't he have trained another to kill and also have extensive knowledge of human anatomy and how to separate it.
      If not to take the possibility of media attention to another country and away from where he was enjoying his "murder castle" with sound proofed areas to trap his victims.
      Considering how often he would make someone disappear, someone with money, or ways to inherit it.
      Including several former lovers.
      Very freaky. I could see him training someone to try and distract from his "work".

  • @UliMuliko
    @UliMuliko Před 7 lety +10

    Is H.H Holmes also Zodiac killer? If not is it confirmed?

  • @JTwiss88
    @JTwiss88 Před 8 lety +7

    Load of nonsense. H.H. Holmes motive for murder was financial and his Modus operandi was completely different. The idea that the ripper had anatomical knowledge was made by one Police surgeon and was leaped on by the press of 1888 to suggest someone of a higher class could be so depraved. Where in reality butchers, tanners, and even barbers could possess the type of anatomical knowledge that would be necessary.

    • @ChrisR395
      @ChrisR395 Před 6 lety

      How would a barber know how to locate and remove a human kidney? Not sure a tanner or a butcher would be much better either.

    • @JTwiss88
      @JTwiss88 Před 6 lety

      Barbers were also amateur surgeons back in those days. Butchers and tanners need a good idea of anatomy for their trade, especially muscle groups and the abdominal cavity. Even so- the main piece of evidence hasn't been mentioned here. H H Holmes had a daughter born in July 1889. For this daughter to have been conceived he would have had to have been in the US around end of october/early november 1888- the key time of the ripper murders.

  • @christmasperv2960
    @christmasperv2960 Před 5 lety +1

    Almost all JTR experts agree the Dear Boss letter was a forgery. So if that's your most compelling piece of evidence, the Holmes comparison, your case is in trouble.

  • @martynscotton5492
    @martynscotton5492 Před 8 lety +17

    Listened to this mug on a few podcasts & when he's asked questions he doesn't want to answer he gets all defensive & uses legal reason for not answering questions. Says he has diaries with evidence that HH Holmes is Jack the Ripper but can't show anybody these diaries for legal reasons, says he got possessed by the spirit of HH Holmes, says he calls his book based on a true story instead of a true story because he could get in trouble for legal reasons, says he has all sorts of evidence that will come out after he's got funding from the public to dig up where HH Homes is supposedly buried, but needs to prove he's not buried there first, i mean come on who believes all this crap? I could make all these wild claims with no real evidence, he can't even prove that HH Holmes had ever visited London for god sake yet wants us to believe that he's Jack the Ripper so he can sell more books & make more money.

    • @martynscotton5492
      @martynscotton5492 Před 8 lety +1

      +steve gibson I can believe it, but sadly this guy will keep trying to milk his stupid books and theories on gullible people.

    • @martynscotton5492
      @martynscotton5492 Před 8 lety

      +steve gibson well there's a few problems with today's society. 1 unless something comes from a big official source they don't believe it no matter what evidence is presented on any subject matter. 2 people don't want to take the time to do their own independent research because that's to much hard work for most people & 3 a lot of people are simply so stupid that they haven't got a clue about anything, because everybody has been so dumbed down. It's sad but true mate.

    • @cobycss
      @cobycss Před 8 lety +3

      There actually is evidence that Holmes was in London at the time of the Ripper. Mudgett isn't the only one researching Holmes being the ripper. Author Dane Ladwig found reports that Holmes owned a residence in Whitechapel, and he also visited one of his friends from medical school who was living in London.

    • @cobycss
      @cobycss Před 8 lety +2

      +steve gibson Thats it? Lenchmore is a better suspect, just because he found the body of one victim. What about the others? Kellys body was found by her landlord. Eddowes body was found by a policeman. Strides body was found by a different guy. Why would the killer of 5 victims stay at the first crime scene and cooperate with the police?

    • @cobycss
      @cobycss Před 8 lety +3

      +steve gibson Lets not forget that Holmes was a sadistic killer. He was in London at the time of the murders. He matched the 13 witnesses descriptions. The dear boss letter was the first time the name Jack the Ripper was ever used and it mentions the next victims ear will be cut off and eddowes had her ear cut off. Holmes handwriting matched perfectly. The pathologists believed the killer had anatomical knowledge, which holmes certainly had. You can't just look at his evidence and sweep it under the rug. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

  • @monroemullinix5974
    @monroemullinix5974 Před 3 lety +2

    7:10 Here's a letter Holmes wrote "two or three years after 1888." You'll notice it's dated 1895. I'm good at math.

  • @TheNotBees
    @TheNotBees Před 9 měsíci +2

    They really will let literally anyone give a Ted talk now

  • @cappy06172004
    @cappy06172004 Před 6 lety +5

    I have long been interested in serial killers and have read quite a bit on killers in general and on HH Holmes and Jack the Ripper specifically. Jeff Mudgett presents a lot of very weak "evidence" that are far from rock solid. For the record, I am totally open to the possibility that Holmes was the Ripper, but nothing I have seen or read would support his theories.
    Jack the Ripper attacked high-risk victims, prostitutes, and he cut them up. He removed organs and body parts and staged some of the bodies. HH Holmes was super methodical and killed people who were not "high risk" and were likely to be missed by someone.
    Holmes seemed to kill for selfish, often financial, reasons. He killed using a wide variety of methods, but none of those methods were super messy, nor is there any indication of the staging of his victims. His kills seem to demonstrate a great deal of restraint and control. He also went to great lengths to conceal his crimes.
    Jack the Ripper killed prostitutes, in the streets where they worked. He did so and there are several "witnesses" who saw, or claim they saw, Jack the Ripper with his victims. Holmes, I believe, would not have allowed himself to be seen unless he wanted to. Holmes seems to be all about concealing his kills, and Jack the Ripper wants them to be seen.
    The Rippers victims had a variety of "signatures" that indicated a common killer. Some of the women had their uterus removed while others had their intestines pulled out and drapped across their bodies. While the method of murder can change, the signature rarely does because it represents the part of the kill, or ritual, that the killer is compelled to do, so even if the MO was different from victim to victim, the signature would be the same.
    One aspect of serial killers who operate without being caught is that they evolve. The kills become more frequent with less cooling off time in between. The killers often become more bold in their crimes and will venture further outside of their comfort zone. The level of anger often “evolves” too, and the victims display quite a bit more of what law enforcement calls overkill; in other words, the killer is angrier, and takes that anger out on his victims.
    Once a killer devolves to the point that overkill is apparent, they typically do not “get better” and go back to how they used to kill. If you look at Jack the Ripper's crimes you can see that evolution, and you can see the overkill and anger in the absolute annihilation of Mary Kelly. The crime scene photo of that event look like Mary Swallowed a grenade that explodes inside her.
    It is almost impossible to believe that Holmes went to London and devolved so quickly, in 4 months, to the point that he eviscerated Mary Kelly beyond recognition, and then just went home and hit the “reset” button. Not only would it require Holmes to reset his psychopathy, which he would be unable to do, but it also required a total change of his signature and MO, which is so unlikely that it might as well be called impossible.
    Beyond the eye witness accounts of Jack the Ripper, he was also described several times as “shabby” which seems to be very much the opposite of how Holmes presented himself.
    Most serial killers are caught while operating within a set geographical area, an area that they are comfortable in and familiar with. Part of this is surely an unconscious decision, but is easy to see displayed in almost every killer ever caught. The other more practical reason, however, is that it makes it easier to get around, and get away from the authorities after you have committed a crime. Even if Holmes was in England between August and November 1888, and had been there for weeks or months, I find it highly unlikely that he would be so comfortable that he could kill and escape in such a foreign and unfamiliar location.

    • @potatopirate5557
      @potatopirate5557 Před rokem +1

      Not saying this is definitely what happened but just throwing it out there... what if a guy who was so charismatic and intelligent as to con, kill and rob so many wealthy people, become a surgeon, design a blueprint for a complicated kill factory within a hotel and orchestrate the construction so that he could employ others to do his work without knowing what they were building... was also compelling and controlling enough to employ enthusiasts as apprentices?
      Serial killers don't usually work together but they also aren't usually this accomplished and organized and with enough hunger amd industriousness to build a torture factory. He was obviously very good at controlling other people and his enterprises were such that it likely necessitated hired help. The very nature of the surgical field at the time was such that you could definitely find and train up some shady lad for a while and then kill him before he got too big for his britches.
      If I were the kind of mad genius who would design and build a torture factory within a hotel, with the intent of capitalizing on the world fair, I might also be the sort to take my budding killer friend to London for the winter so he can make such a terrorizing mess, while also baffling the authorities with fun little nuggets I taught him about... like t removing organs so that he can make the maximum statement in minimum time, right out in public, so the people panic and the papers and cops are all hyper-focused on that freak and I can go farm rich people for some extra capital for this place I'm building... and then bounce back across the pond like it never happened.
      It's all conjecture but it does help explain why the mo's were different and it even explains some of the most puzzling things about Jack's attacks. Sure, maybe he was just a raging, demented psycho who made horrific messes. But it would also make sense that if you wanted to light a fire that was going to continue to terrorize and consume the minds of the public and the investigators, random, hasty, public, gruesome scenes of extreme violence would be the way to go.
      Just an interesting option, I think.

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      ​​​@@potatopirate5557lmes did have partners through out his many crimes.
      Usually when they were in his way, and no longer needed for his con he would end them.
      They would just disappear.
      There is a theory about the Holmes case that he had trained a partner to do "work" like him, and draw attention of the media and public to the murders in London off of him in Chicago and previously Texas.
      There is also a story how a foul smell in his place got the attention of the land lady.
      It turned out he brought a baby he had been dissecting in college home with him to further dissect. 😮🫨🥺😳😣🤢🤮

  • @doviestevens526
    @doviestevens526 Před 7 lety +2

    I would enjoy the topic....IF I could get past the speaker's constant movements and resulting microphone disturbances! Save your time. I'm surprised this passed TED standards, even for an independent production.

  • @Sindollx666x
    @Sindollx666x Před rokem +1

    I don't know why he didn't explain that H.H.Holmes also owned a HOME in White Chappel England.

  • @damiensmith2698
    @damiensmith2698 Před 8 lety +10

    The letter 't' certainly doesn't match.

    • @d.b.4201
      @d.b.4201 Před 4 měsíci

      The s didnt either! 👎

  • @Messuduppotatoasia
    @Messuduppotatoasia Před 6 lety +2

    I’m not understanding the beginning part where he says that when new pieces of evidence comes up, we should avoid confirmation bias by talking about who it is rather than who it isn’t?? If anything, zero-ing in on a single suspect and using evidence to support is far more liable to confirmation bias than using process of elimination??

  • @christiansoldier77
    @christiansoldier77 Před 3 lety +2

    I just saw a documentary that said the letter was written by a reporter using a handwriting expert

  • @aliarefi22
    @aliarefi22 Před 5 dny

    People love a story and conmen are always ready to provide one.

  • @susannamarker2582
    @susannamarker2582 Před 2 lety +1

    Exhibit B - the letter Holmes wrote his Lawyer 'a few years after 1888' is dated 9.4.45. Also, every gentleman in those days was drawn with a moustache. He is relying on mainstream media to analyse.

  • @susanf915
    @susanf915 Před 7 lety +6

    I wished this video was like one of those old Westerns where the gunslinger comes in and shoots the piano player. Beyond that, this guy is freaking delusional. (Note that none of the "experts" he talks about are named?) With the letters for example, every one of the the letters that are usually used as exemplars are different and I could figure that out, just from reading how handwriting analysis is done. Also the "Jack the Ripper" letter is considered by most (actual) experts to be a fake. Same thing with the "composite"--except that with that one, you can see that he literally drew in the mustache.
    I made it to the halfway point.

  • @no_peace
    @no_peace Před 7 lety +2

    that music makes it almost impossible for me to focus on what he's saying

  • @MrRanger3030
    @MrRanger3030 Před 7 lety +4

    what's with the poopy brown piano music playing in the background?

  • @Sdea1903
    @Sdea1903 Před 3 lety +1

    Jack The Ripper was Aaron Kominski. They knew who he was.

  • @jamonturner9583
    @jamonturner9583 Před 2 lety +2

    The facial recognition came back as Jack The Ripper being a Mexican cartel member. Got it 😂

  • @eriksmith2514
    @eriksmith2514 Před 5 lety +1

    The problem is that the presenter asked the audience to vote on probable cause, then the moderator asked the audience to vote on guilt. I would vote "yes" on probable cause and "no" on guilt. Otherwise, the handwriting sample was too limited to compare confidently, the sentence in the letter about the periodical being unavailable in London lacked context, and the presenter never proved Holmes was actually in London during the murders.

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      Though there is a period of time he was said to not be in Chicago in 1888, and accounts said he was in London, his name being on the ship ledgers too, though it also could've been a partner posing as Holmes, and using the taught dissection lessons. (Holmes was a teacher multiple times in his life too.)
      He also owned a home in White Chappel London, where the Ripper cases occurred.

  • @cheyennegordon997
    @cheyennegordon997 Před 3 lety +2

    I’m honestly surprised they even let this man do a Ted talk on the subject. He acts like everything is fact that he saying however it is at the very best circumstantial. Some of the leading forensic specialist, anthropologists, and criminal profiler‘s in the world have all refuted quite a bit of what he saying. He said that he would have to have had medical knowledge that was indicative of being a doctor however they’ve proved that the cuts on the victims could have been made by someone who had a knowledge of butchering such as a butcher or a slaughterhouse worker. Also while the dear boss letters have been basically chalked up to being not from the Ripper there are other letters that have been considered by world-class profilers as most likely authentic and it was highly suggested that he was an immigrant considering the area was full of immigrants at the time and that he did not speak English very well because of the syntax and spelling errors. As well as one of the only people do you have ever actually seen the person who is most likely the Ripper said that he spoke with a very sick foreign accent. There is more evidence than not that Holmes was not the killer than evidence that he was. He might have been we won’t ever know however I think it’s silly that he is talking like he is solving these crimes with irrefutable evidence when really he’s just showing evidence that fit his narrative not all of the actual evidence. Also the fact that he uses the dear boss letter as evidence is further fueling the fact that he has absolutely no clue what he’s talking about. It has been as I said before almostly proven that the dear boss letter was most likely sent by somebody in the media just sensationalize the story rather than the actual killer himself.

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 Před 2 lety +1

      The letter he shows from Holmes to his lawyer, 'a few years after 1888' is dated 9.4.45.

  • @TiaraHerr
    @TiaraHerr Před 5 lety

    Did anyone notice that the letter was dated May 29, '95, but he said that it was written 2 or 3 years after 1888?

  • @sa4540
    @sa4540 Před 3 lety +1

    I couldn’t think or concentrate because of that constant bloody piano.
    But, I really enjoyed the video.

  • @cinsationalcinema1776
    @cinsationalcinema1776 Před 7 lety +2

    Can't handle the damn piano going on in the background

  • @with.the.y
    @with.the.y Před 8 lety +1

    At 10:05 he says his evidence will narrow down the suspects to 2. Does he state in his book or ever who are the 2?

  • @chase001
    @chase001 Před 7 lety +4

    When did Ted Talks become the 'History' Channel? This is nonsense.

  • @charitysusu2163
    @charitysusu2163 Před 2 lety

    Hey l wanna ask you about something. Are the midnight assassin and jack the ripper the same?

  • @galaxi407
    @galaxi407 Před 5 lety +2

    Where's the passenger list? If he was on there just before the killings, I would more likely believe that he was Jack the ripper

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      He was apparently documented traveling to England, where he also owned a home in White Chappel London.
      There's no documentation of Holmes being in the US for most of 1888.

  • @jimmyjohnston8287
    @jimmyjohnston8287 Před 6 lety +2

    Which witnesses said Jack wore a bowler??

  • @jpm4444
    @jpm4444 Před 7 lety +3

    This guys special on the history channel is now on. He was a lawyer thus the dramatics. His talking is much like his book. long winded, dramatic, eccentric and close minded. he's convinced already. Adam Selzer's 3 books show Holmes was in Chicago at the time of the ripper killings (he registered to vote) and holmes wife and father were interviewed and told them he was visiting them during the election showing why he never voted.

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      There's also a theory he trained a partner to do the work over there while creating this distraction in London.
      He definitely had partners in his MANY fraudulent crimes.
      Including selling bodies for medical dissection training.
      His partner in the states he used to file a fraudulent Life Insurance Policy & fake his death.... the guy was on board, but didn't suspect Holmes to end his life when all was in place.

  • @desertrose0601
    @desertrose0601 Před 6 lety +3

    If this is true, it’s very interesting. However this guy strikes me as a con artist just trying to get famous. Way more people remember Jack the Ripper instead of this guy’s grandfather, and I think he’s upset about that and trying to force a connection to bring glory and attention back to his family. Which, by the way, speaks to a narcissistic personality disorder, something sociopaths tends to have. Not saying he’s also a serial killer, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that type of mental illness ran in the family.

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      H.H.Holmes is America's first documented serial killer.

  • @divinedragons1761
    @divinedragons1761 Před 4 lety +1

    What happened to Ted talks?

  • @caitrionabobb
    @caitrionabobb Před 7 lety +3

    hh holmes wasn't in england at the time of the killings

  • @dustinmeritt5593
    @dustinmeritt5593 Před 6 lety

    There's allot of evidence to say that he only had a basic understanding of human anatomy and the ripper also nicked organs that was seen as a not so experienced action

  • @JimAllder11
    @JimAllder11 Před 2 lety +1

    They really need to work on their microphone etiquette.

  • @ericf5978
    @ericf5978 Před 6 lety +1

    He didn't show any evidence that puts him at a crime scene. This might be enough to indite him but no jury would convict him based on this evidence.

  • @AsellusPrimus
    @AsellusPrimus Před 9 lety +6

    wtf is this music

    • @serialced
      @serialced Před 9 lety +2

      Omg yes! 5mins in and the annoying music combined with the mic issues make this HARD to continue watching. I'm out.

  • @hallieberkshire4164
    @hallieberkshire4164 Před 4 lety +1

    I can refute most of what he has stated. Nearly EVERY man in Whitechapel looked like the 5'7", had a great big mustache, and that statement from the Coroner about 'deft with the scalpel' has been discredited by more modern coroners. A skilled butcher or even I could have done it. I have basic anatomy and physiology, was a First Responder for 3 years with training from the University of Maryland Fire Institute. Training for an EMT is VERY intense. Anyone of us could perform the messy dissection he did. The definitive facial recognition lies with the EARS; and these do not look exact. AND what he has not told you is that ten witnesses of ten, will give you differing details. And how many innocent people have been incarcerated? Check out Charles Allen Cross as a suspect.

    • @julianjrobertson
      @julianjrobertson Před rokem

      Hi, experienced emt and combat medic here. I'd like to know where you and your emt friends are dissecting bodies

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      There also probably weren't as many EMTS in 1888, well versed on human anatomy & dissection.

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x Před rokem

      Though today absolutely.

  • @WysteriaGuitar
    @WysteriaGuitar Před 7 lety +2

    Definitely was the model for Mr. Clean

  • @johnnyramblefinely2430
    @johnnyramblefinely2430 Před rokem +1

    When they asked Sir Arthur Conan Doyle his opinion he said he would look for an American. Be ironic if he was called Holmes. Who knows?

  • @comityofspiders
    @comityofspiders Před 9 lety +2

    Not JTR

  • @HillSara
    @HillSara Před 7 lety +3

    This guy really wants to be recognised as a Jack The Ripper's descendent... I am currently watching American Ripper in London and, I could not understand his deception every time a DNA result comes out negative! He seams desperate for his 10 minutes of fame

  • @jamonturner9583
    @jamonturner9583 Před 2 lety

    How do these people get Ted talks

  • @bikiniburger4376
    @bikiniburger4376 Před 7 lety +3

    This was painful to watch.

  • @hoe273
    @hoe273 Před 7 lety +1

    And the History Channel show says the writing isnt the same

  • @vekunde
    @vekunde Před měsícem +1

    JtR knew the streets, likely knew at least some of the victims. He was a local. HH would have stood out sorely. Doubt anyone in their right minds would wander those streets after midnight. AND...HH loved his privacy, ala the "hotel". These were out in the streets, he would've been exposed. Not even the guy, imo.

    • @DanielKretzer-uf1cg
      @DanielKretzer-uf1cg Před měsícem +1

      All good points. This guy actually has the balls to say he will finish with airtight evidence that Holmes was in London, and then at the end all he gives us is: "Well, nobody can prove he *wasn't* in London." Absolute amateur hour. I can't believe this guy sold books.

  • @onefootoutthedoor9937
    @onefootoutthedoor9937 Před 4 lety +1

    Lord Randall Spencer-Churchill

  • @kluafoz
    @kluafoz Před 2 lety +1

    The music ruined it.

  • @amusicalheart7
    @amusicalheart7 Před 8 lety +24

    Why is that piano playing while he's talking? It's incredibly distracting and annoying. Damn, shut that stupid piano up!!

  • @XenoxGOWGODOFWINTER
    @XenoxGOWGODOFWINTER Před 4 lety

    I believe that the ripper was the earliest super soldier and if hhholms is him then he knows mix martial arts like sherlock holms there is also a connection with those two maybe they ecountered eachother and fought but the ripper managed to escape.

  • @newlifenowife3522
    @newlifenowife3522 Před 5 lety

    damn that music !!! whose idea was that ? the ripper s ??

  • @forshigity5000
    @forshigity5000 Před 4 lety

    One problem. Holmes didn't kill the same way in the states.

  • @raveythirteen5660
    @raveythirteen5660 Před 5 lety +1

    Uh... that handwriting doesn't even look the same to me, and I'm no expert, but most of the characters aren't even made the same way.

  • @XenoxGOWGODOFWINTER
    @XenoxGOWGODOFWINTER Před 4 lety

    The true terror, the man with no forgiveness and loss gave birth to a monster.

  • @VanceWarren83
    @VanceWarren83 Před 7 lety +13

    Wow, trying to drum up cash and fame from an ancestor who was a serial killer..... New low. Also, Holmes was all over the papers when he was caught... None of the 13 witnesses said "hey, that's Jack?!"

    • @velvetraptor8540
      @velvetraptor8540 Před 6 lety

      Yes. Certainly a new low. Unbelieveable. And apparently unable to prove a thing. Not even willing to show sketchy evidence. Hey, did you know I'm descended from Elizabeth Bathory? I've got bloodstains to prove it. Now, on the south end of Manhattan there's a bridge......been in my family for years.....

    • @inkyguy
      @inkyguy Před 4 lety

      Vance Warren, there were no witness to Jack the Ripper. The only people who saw him as Jack the Ripper were murdered.

    • @VanceWarren83
      @VanceWarren83 Před 4 lety

      @@inkyguy Actually, if you read the police report, there were witnesses. :)

  • @steffanlucarelli9696
    @steffanlucarelli9696 Před 6 lety +2

    Freddy Mercury?

  • @fionnmacoul
    @fionnmacoul Před 3 lety +2

    That was a poor presentation. Little, as regards any evidence. Handwriting was the style of the day and any educated hand would produce similar.
    Presenter said the suspects would be narrowed down to 2 and suggested evidence of Holmes being a passenger on Trans-Atlantic shipping route. However nothing shown regards these points.
    I'd suggest he is not content with only being the descendent of Holmes, who despite the horrors of his crimes does not have the infamy of Jack The Ripper.
    Far more likely suspects out there.

  • @AGauthreauxMA
    @AGauthreauxMA Před 7 lety +2

    What about the jawline?

  • @S37HY
    @S37HY Před 7 lety +8

    Holmes had a daughter born on 4th July 1889, to have the daughter he would have had been in Minneapolis possibly 9 months prior Nov 1888, ta dah 1 piece of evidence 17:11

    • @bellatrixareforkids7406
      @bellatrixareforkids7406 Před 7 lety

      He could have impregnated the mother in any country and the mother returned to the U.S.A.

    • @mattyd7434
      @mattyd7434 Před 6 lety

      He was also a bigamist and a con artist. He racked up more than 50 lawsuits in Chicago alone.

    • @meninpapin
      @meninpapin Před 6 lety

      maybe it wasnt his child

  • @sdrury01
    @sdrury01 Před 7 lety +3

    the music is as annoying as he is.

  • @dustinmeritt5593
    @dustinmeritt5593 Před 6 lety +1

    That mic sounds terrible fix that, you can hear him breathing and lip smacking, cool content tho

  • @chrismurray1084
    @chrismurray1084 Před 5 lety

    He says it can't have been a hairdresser but in those days barbers were surgeons to it what the white and red polls mean white for bandages and red for blood

  • @MsRoxypox
    @MsRoxypox Před 9 lety +2

    Such a shame that they have some mic issues. Well worth the time it takes to watch.

  • @Striker9
    @Striker9 Před 6 lety

    I watched it all, doesn't matter the story, I looked them up, then watched alot, but the fact there really wasn't one av guy that could say hey wait two seconds while i fix this. , Makes me really wonder if the people behind TED really care, or if their just there to have people speak and get money from them, as it seems like the less views, the worse the audio sounds to the video...

  • @juditnagy1706
    @juditnagy1706 Před 6 lety

    I have nothing against the info, but the mic is driving me insane

  • @gregorybathurst7171
    @gregorybathurst7171 Před 4 lety

    the only person that got the best sighting of the ripper and ID someone that wasnt hh holmes the witness was swartz

  • @ZrankFappaH
    @ZrankFappaH Před 5 lety +1

    That Mic feedback and rustling. Ruined the entire talk which I was finding interesting.

  • @sethroy60
    @sethroy60 Před 4 lety +1

    Hard not to laugh. The Ripper has been a hobby for me for decades, and in the past few years I've started to read up on H.H. Holmes and there is no connection with the two. The Dear Boss letter was a newspaper hoax, and medical men in London in 1888 could not agree on whether The Ripper had more than rudimentary anatomical knowledge. There were slaughter houses in White Chapel and anyone working in one would have enough knowledge to be The Ripper.

    • @Nick-kw9oz
      @Nick-kw9oz Před 4 lety

      Ya the Ripper cases have been a hobby of mine as well for several years now. I disagree though. I think the eye witness description matches perfectly. The fact that Holmes had an assistance matches the ripper case. Out of all of the ripper suspects I would say Holmes is right up there. Im not sure why so many people are so obviously put off by this? Why?

  • @Hey_Jamie
    @Hey_Jamie Před 4 lety

    The music is obnoxious and highly distracting.

  • @greggregorio8244
    @greggregorio8244 Před 9 lety

    Mr. Mudgett: have u read the Russell Edwards book?

  • @axeguy3856
    @axeguy3856 Před 5 lety +1

    This guy is tickled pink by the thought that he is related to this HH Holmes character. As he was really the first American serial killer to be sensationalized by the press, most of the wild claims attributed to HH Holmes had no basis in fact. It was just a cycle of poor journalistic one-upmanship in Chicago in what must have been a very dull news month... His real body count is probably under a dozen with just a handful properly documented. His 'murder mansion' was not accepting guests during the 1893 Exhibition and to take an estimate of the number of people unaccounted for after ostensibly leaving to attend that exhibition and attribute them to his psycopathic activities is a pretty ridiculous leap. Plus the trick doors and rooms in that building were more likely there to hide stolen goods from his long list of scams, etc. And you know that there must be a ton of great great grandchildren from this guy, as he had many aliases and was a documented polygamist but there seems to have only been one forty-something guy in that bunch with time on his hands and money to burn. From what kind of pool do TEDx organizers draw their speakers? I don't know but I would have been pissed off if I had attended that 'lecture'. And that piano player needs to be sent to some kind of 'murder castle' as well. Jeez!

  • @yehbytheway2297
    @yehbytheway2297 Před 6 lety

    A lot of people where taught calligraphy in those days so a lot of writing in the western world was standardised amongst people who given a education. So it doesn't prove that much.

  • @velvetraptor8540
    @velvetraptor8540 Před 6 lety

    Are those French fries on his carpet?

  • @DannyLovesJesus
    @DannyLovesJesus Před rokem

    They should make sure they never include the possible Jack the Ripper victims of Alice McKenzie and Frances Coles, which both occurred in London after 1888. That is, if they want people to believe Holmes was Jack.

    • @DanielKretzer-uf1cg
      @DanielKretzer-uf1cg Před měsícem +1

      Don't forget Martha Tabram, killed the summer before the five canonical murders.

  • @CleanFamilyVideos
    @CleanFamilyVideos Před 7 lety +4

    "All the ripper-ologists will go take a second look at the mystery!"
    Ripper-ologists. Just kill me now.

  • @rhiannonk3176
    @rhiannonk3176 Před 8 lety +21

    Holy shit, drink a glass of water if you're that nervous. The constant clicking of his mouth is sickening to listen to.

    • @landonjames6488
      @landonjames6488 Před 8 lety +3

      +Rhiannon K thought i was the only one! it's grossing me out more than the ripper! ugh

    • @Starphot
      @Starphot Před 7 lety +2

      It was not his mouth. The mike element was up against and rubbing his face and not outward. The audio techs should of picked that up and corrected the problem.