Mistakes MUSIC PRODUCERS Must Stop MAKING!

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  • čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
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    In this video, I go over reasons you might feel your music isn't up to par with other peoples. I try to focus more on songwriting techniques on this one over processing/mixing. DON'T GET CAUGHT UP IN THE SAUCE
    1. Lack Of Exciting Transitions - Just removing the drums and not doing anything with your track in the transitions? Huge mistake as these are moments you can use to grab your listeners attention back and reel them into your song capturing their interest again even though they’ve heard the main idea.
    2. Not Enough Contrast - A track without contrast is a boring track as it always sounds stagnant in energy. The question is how do we create the energy? Well think of layering up drums for the chorus, think of bringing in a new layer on the lead. Maybe bring a pad? Experiment and find what works best.
    3. The Looping SOUND = This one is a huge one that I hate listening to as it makes the track feel super stagnant like it’s going nowhere. The biggest culprit of this are pad like sounds that always linger but never go away in a song and just stay.. The space never changes because of it and it makes your track feel boring as heck.
    4. Lack Of Moments In The Track - You can call them OH damm moments but this is the moment that people will remember from your track. It could be a specific breakdown melody, it could be a sequence of sounds, it could be the vocal creating a massive space. Think of it and execute don’t just go through the track without em as this will also lead to a boring track.
    5. Lack of Tension and Release.
    Ever been in the crowd of a massive festival? And you get goosebumps as you listen to this beautiful track? Well you’ve experienced tension and release. Think of tension as a feeling of knowing something is about to happen and wanting it to happen but it doesn’t. Tension creates a feeling of unstableness that once broken with the release can be super satisfying. If your tension and release lack in your music you will never get your track to sound memorable and be not boring.
    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    00:04 Transitions Aren't Exciting
    02:40 The Looping Sound Producers
    04:42 Not Enough Contrast In Your Music
    07:00 Lack Of Tension and Release
    09:14 Track Lacks Memorable Moments
    11:20 OUTRO
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Komentáře • 129

  • @JamesRamboPearce
    @JamesRamboPearce Před rokem +16

    Songwriting and Contrast was a hugeeee game changer for me, it's almost the most thing once you've got your sound design and some loops going. Doesn't matter the genre, these two alone are vital

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +4

      It is bro it’s crazy how much it can help with pacing in a track

  • @ALifeTheKidd
    @ALifeTheKidd Před rokem +1

    That GRAVITY tech HOUSE Track sounds FIRE Bro..

  • @jamesd7998
    @jamesd7998 Před rokem +1

    Love that lead automation! 🤤

  • @Hightimesinalpine
    @Hightimesinalpine Před rokem +2

    I feel personally attacked 😭😭😭 thanks for the video just what I was looking for 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      Haha it’s the songwriting aspect of it

  • @HouseplanetDistribu
    @HouseplanetDistribu Před rokem +1

    I am bored watching videos this week, I have to learn a few things still. I like your jokes and style, made me laugh making the learning a bit less boring

  • @viliam9281
    @viliam9281 Před rokem +1

    you are straight...no bla bla...i love it

  • @Silentnarcotic
    @Silentnarcotic Před rokem +1

    That cutaway to the 4 Sausage Fatteners on the screen killed me hahaha! Great advice, glad I was trending towards most of this in my workflow in the past year from my IDs to finals.

  • @itsisma6228
    @itsisma6228 Před rokem +2

    Whatsupp ninja thank you for the video ! But i asked you bout camelphat bass ( Rabbit hole ) for the second time i hope you make a video on serum thank you zen

  • @NoElusionz
    @NoElusionz Před rokem

    such a great video. thanks man!

  • @ivansotirov2457
    @ivansotirov2457 Před rokem +1

    ' 18 years ago '😂😂😂
    /edit - great video, thank you!

  • @xandy9727
    @xandy9727 Před rokem

    Great tips bro 😎❤️

  • @TheWaspist
    @TheWaspist Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this awesome video and your honest reviews

  • @subpartwitchstreams5816
    @subpartwitchstreams5816 Před rokem +1

    This is such a great video Zen!

  • @shantanusrivastava9744
    @shantanusrivastava9744 Před rokem +2

    Lol i used to watch u in 2017
    I was 13
    Left music and see u😭
    Love u in 18 now

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      Man haha maybe my dirty jokes will hit harder now

  • @kausambirajbarua5293
    @kausambirajbarua5293 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice tips. Very informative.

  • @itswoahhmusic
    @itswoahhmusic Před rokem

    I make these a lot. Specifically contrast and tension and release. Love this video. I need to work on this stuff alot more!

  • @pransukhmusic
    @pransukhmusic Před rokem

    very useful info man !! thnk you

  • @coldspacemusic
    @coldspacemusic Před rokem +2

    Great tips man. I'm definitely lacking in all of these areas! Thanks for breaking it down so simple. 👌🏽

  • @hydralicious9315
    @hydralicious9315 Před 2 lety

    Very nice. Thank you.

  • @j.i.d.255
    @j.i.d.255 Před rokem

    Very helpful. Thanks

  • @manuelramos2933
    @manuelramos2933 Před rokem +9

    For me this video has the best tips for those producers who are figuring out how to go forward from a 16 bar beat to a full tune!! Thank you for all the videos Zen. They have help me improved in my productions and to enter in good labels like Reaching Altitude. :)

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      Yes yes and yes I appreciate you watching!

  • @neilpearce
    @neilpearce Před rokem +1

    08:50 - I actually felt that!! Superb tips Zen, many thanks!!

  • @thetrendsetter6291
    @thetrendsetter6291 Před rokem +1

    Zen I hope you hit a million subscribers one day

  • @Prod.Maurice
    @Prod.Maurice Před rokem

    My man is spitting facts 💯

  • @djlokho
    @djlokho Před rokem +4

    Really awesome advice for creating a memorable feeling and avoiding flat repetition. Thanks Zen!

  • @justynwclark
    @justynwclark Před rokem +1

    Love it. I feel like I become more knowledgeable every single time I watch one of your videos. So glad I found your channel.

  • @thejawshop-AdventureRecording

    As an old bastard I am learning so much in the first 5 min of this video. Music to the grid has become scientific. Let's look at the late Charlie Watts. Like him or not, he placed the bass drum slightly ahead of the beat, and the snare behind. Miles Davis told his band the note is a circle, it is how you interpret it and where you put it. Feel is the result, tension and release is in the groove itself, not just through arrangement only. Thanks for opening my ears, I know nothing about this music culturally speaking, but I am open to learning.

  • @astroraver9377
    @astroraver9377 Před rokem

    This is more than advice. So much facts. If you want to be different, play close attention to these things.

  • @gogamusic
    @gogamusic Před rokem +1

    Great stuff!

  • @Tufnikel
    @Tufnikel Před rokem +1

    As always! Helping us with good advice.

  • @L8TOPIC
    @L8TOPIC Před rokem +1

    Really love it

  • @ze2like
    @ze2like Před rokem +4

    Thank you so much Zen! This has been an eye opener for me!
    I'm into totally different styles of electronic music, yet I found so much valuable advice on your channel that still applies whatever the genre maybe! You're the man!

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      Yes I’m trying to shape it this way so anyone could watch and get something out of it

  • @ishaan863
    @ishaan863 Před 2 lety +2

    perfect advice. The way you demonstrated tension and release in that track is so efficient. Perfectly done.

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      Glad you enjoyed it ishaan

  • @JoeyStaletoTV
    @JoeyStaletoTV Před rokem

    Very informative 🙏🏽

  • @DUTUM
    @DUTUM Před rokem +3

    Great tips 👍👍👍👍

  • @redhood_dj
    @redhood_dj Před rokem

    I love you dude

  • @Deabrewmusic
    @Deabrewmusic Před 2 lety +1

    Niceee tips!!!! thx! Hugs from brazil!

  • @ayMillmusic
    @ayMillmusic Před rokem +1

    That song is badass!

  • @dylancairns8267
    @dylancairns8267 Před rokem

    I got goosebumps bro

  • @andresdelgado8943
    @andresdelgado8943 Před rokem +1

    sick track!

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      Thanks still work in progress

  • @karl3692
    @karl3692 Před rokem

    Hi Zen, thanks for another great video! One area that I struggle with is structure. I use reference tracks but find that they are all different! Would you be able to to do a quick video on how a typical tech house track should be arranged? Thanks! :)

  • @ktryushi4744
    @ktryushi4744 Před rokem +2

    I agree with you in tech house, techno, house should be more transitions and memorable moments because of repetitiveness. You can’t do that in future rave though that much…Thanks for the video Zen.

  • @Jabez007
    @Jabez007 Před rokem

    I'm definitely a beginner and appreciate any help 🙏 I can get thank you!

    • @thejawshop-AdventureRecording
      @thejawshop-AdventureRecording Před rokem

      we are all beginners, anyone that tells you they are an expert can easily get humbled to feel they are crap. This is art not accounting.

  • @SimonOhNo
    @SimonOhNo Před rokem

    You make the catchiest music

  • @soundcore183
    @soundcore183 Před rokem

    Just building tension before the drop to explain it simpler

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      Sure, but don't forget about other sections of your song like before the start of your main breakdown, or last final drop. All the best!

  • @gabrielwerlang5334
    @gabrielwerlang5334 Před rokem

    damn those tracks are fireee are any of those released yet?

  • @ThomasDeJoenge
    @ThomasDeJoenge Před rokem +1

    TRANSITION!

  • @cottoo1
    @cottoo1 Před rokem

    9:59 totally pro, great job

  • @XLAMOORX
    @XLAMOORX Před rokem +1

    The pad is still there !!! loll

  • @Joseph-fs4kh
    @Joseph-fs4kh Před rokem

    Haven’t watched your videos in a while but you really grew. Someone mentioned you used to cuss a little too much and I dunno if you took that into consideration but I don’t think there was any cussing in this video and you seem more professional while maintaining your comedic/silly tone from earlier videos.
    Big ups to you man thank you for continuing to make these videos.

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      damm i did cuss but definitely turned it down a bit. Not an F WORD EVERY Other Second

  • @ValdeDarkorbit
    @ValdeDarkorbit Před 2 lety +1

    Good tips as always :D Do you have any tips for creating own samples like any go-to processing and maybe something that people overlook when creating samples?
    Keep up the good work !

  • @blaise9691
    @blaise9691 Před rokem

    ur the best zen world

  • @iamteo370
    @iamteo370 Před rokem +1

    Patches for trance track pls.. wow much wow

  • @jerem2353
    @jerem2353 Před 2 lety +2

    0:30 LMAO

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před 2 lety +1

      Oh yeah there’s a bunch of moments in these video

    • @jerem2353
      @jerem2353 Před 2 lety

      @@ZenWorld 🤣

  • @andrewmesh
    @andrewmesh Před rokem

    Damn, you look way different than the last time I saw you.. looking sharp mate ☺

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      I'm trying to get a pony tail to go with my HOUSE PLANTS!!

  • @kausambirajbarua5293
    @kausambirajbarua5293 Před 2 lety +1

    Zen please do tutorial on Purple Disco Machine style track.

  • @ibrajamil
    @ibrajamil Před rokem

    1:06 this the hardest transition I’ve heard

  • @AndresMartinez-oh9nd
    @AndresMartinez-oh9nd Před rokem +1

    The most important one is missing, be true to your sound. Understand every single step but avoid being a formula person because then the music will have all the elements listed but will lack that center point that is the expression.

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      I stay clear from this one with students until they can make good-sounding music. Sometimes their sound isn't the best in the beginning years and they don't know what to do with their sound. I think it comes as they get inspired off people.

    • @AndresMartinez-oh9nd
      @AndresMartinez-oh9nd Před rokem

      @@ZenWorld Yes! This is a good video.

  • @joncaistermusic
    @joncaistermusic Před rokem +1

    Btw I bought Deceiver recently and IT IS absolute fireeee Dude keep doing this stuff It helps so much🔥🙏

    • @elgionova
      @elgionova Před rokem

      What does it help you do

    • @joncaistermusic
      @joncaistermusic Před rokem

      @@elgionova its helping with the Workflow and I Just have good Sounds to use instantly. Just a great Tech House Pack🤷

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      @@elgionova good sounds niched and up to date for people to use. Making it super narrow focused helps make sure people will be happy with it as every sound is useable for them

  • @DookyShoesMusic
    @DookyShoesMusic Před měsícem

    💯💯💯

  • @joncaistermusic
    @joncaistermusic Před rokem +1

    Basically doing little buildups as Transitions is catching the listener i guess

  • @cherish9288
    @cherish9288 Před rokem

    Hey How to submite music.The discord link is not working

  • @joncaistermusic
    @joncaistermusic Před rokem +2

    Bro 9:59 Hits hard💯🔥🔥

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      Thanks dude works in progress

  • @pooladjohnmoore9642
    @pooladjohnmoore9642 Před 2 lety +1

    Beep beep ninja

  • @AcidTechnoMan5000
    @AcidTechnoMan5000 Před rokem +1

    3:14 Where's that bass from? One of your packs?

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      I have to check but I believe it’s Friends For Basses in Diva Deceiver edition. Just a saw well processed

  • @ibrajamil
    @ibrajamil Před rokem

    CAN YOU DROP THESE????

  • @rawbinmo
    @rawbinmo Před rokem +1

    What song is that after 4:42 "Not enough contrast in your music"? Did you release it? Sounds good.

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      Hey bro, you can find it on my Spotify I ended up releasing it under Tropica Recordings decent label ran by Siwell

  • @antonkokic
    @antonkokic Před rokem

    that track sick! Is it outie?

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      It’s not done and I have yet to send out yet but when it does I’ll let you guys know

  • @hexnote
    @hexnote Před 2 lety +1

    👌

  • @kylecaruana3971
    @kylecaruana3971 Před rokem

    Where are the vocals from at 6:40?

  • @stncho9044
    @stncho9044 Před rokem +1

    hard working mexican all the way

  • @omermesci5090
    @omermesci5090 Před rokem

    All these cool tips but how come you only have 2 tracks on Spotify? Am J looking at the wrong platform?

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      I have 2-3 on Soundcloud as well from a while back but never released much under this moniker as I make a better living being a full-time sound designer and commission-based producer helping artists get their tracks finished and polished.
      These videos are all made with the hopes that people will learn from them, but also to promote my sound design work.
      This year I decided to start releasing some music under this moniker so people can hear my music who ask this question.
      All the best.

  • @lelumous
    @lelumous Před rokem

    1:21 what song is that?

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      Not out yet still trying to get it on a label

  • @wearedominus
    @wearedominus Před rokem

    Great video, all that’s missing is a hair tie

  • @CrisKanahuati
    @CrisKanahuati Před rokem +1

    i swear zen hates pads xD

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      To be fair I do use them in my tracks but fuck I make that mistake a ton it sucks!

    • @CrisKanahuati
      @CrisKanahuati Před rokem

      @@ZenWorld i can relate
      xD

  • @technotics6512
    @technotics6512 Před rokem

    Zen how come you don't release your own music? You would 100% be a top chart DJ

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      Trying at the moment but not trying to be a dj just for social proof

    • @technotics6512
      @technotics6512 Před rokem +1

      @@ZenWorld I can respect that, not saying you should for the clout. I just feel that you could put out tracks that would definitely make top lists, perhaps another source of passive income. Don't have to run the gauntlet of actually DJ'ing and touring ;)

  • @radonn3419
    @radonn3419 Před rokem

    bro, why he eats the microphone

  • @Meknassih
    @Meknassih Před rokem +1

    Why is your audio glitching so often in so many videos, I like how you don’t even care lmao

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      Probably the push to talk no other way I suck at push to talk but if you are talking about the part of VOY DALE song I left it like that on purpose lol idk why

    • @Meknassih
      @Meknassih Před rokem

      @Vic LTD Yes, that is what I meant. All the content creators putting the efforts in the hardware, but you know where to put yours 👌

  • @Glitchkase
    @Glitchkase Před rokem

    69 dislikes from people who use fl studio and soundgoodizer for mastering

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      The title triggers peoples which leads to more clicks but also I open myself up to attacks which is fine since I have to play the CZcams game to get clicks.

    • @Glitchkase
      @Glitchkase Před rokem

      @@ZenWorld like are now 65 this trick works lmaoo

  • @0Human1
    @0Human1 Před rokem

    I can't believe your wife let you in the house?.....what happened to the shed?....what the F is going on with this world?

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      SHe's starting to get mad at the constant bass BOOM Sound

  • @nickepic1863
    @nickepic1863 Před rokem

    First and second example is not the same and that is misleading. Use same example and do stuff you done with second example, it will sound out of place and amateurish since energy of your first example is too low, and transition you done in second drop will destroy it. This is bad example, you don't even have the same elements in first and second drop lol

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem

      It's not meant for people to copy my transition into their tracks. It's meant to open people's eyes that getting rid of drums and just putting a drum fill isn't a good transition; it's a lazy one. Hear any good tracks from producers you admire, and you will hear them automate their sounds. Example: Gorgon City - You've Done Enough every 8 bars on the main drop, they do a fill where drums go away, but the BASS opens up and gets delayed. Gorgon City just doesn't put a drum fill for the sake of it and that was the point of that section of the video.

  • @xcrpt
    @xcrpt Před rokem +1

    IT'S TIME TO STOP

  • @cursedsound
    @cursedsound Před rokem

    What happened to your sexy beard ? 🤔

  • @ellisgribble5729
    @ellisgribble5729 Před rokem +1

    How about not making a bastardised, boring generic music that’s been around since the the naughties and actually trying to be unique and make your own style/genre???

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  Před rokem +1

      😂 damm what got you so riled up?