Understanding Offense in Closed Guard

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2019
  • Learning to attack from the closed guard is a foundational skill that is a great introduction for understanding how to develop offense from your guard. Closed guard is a very static position so it’s easier to specific train and develop in when you start Jiu Jitsu, yet it can be very difficult when you first start to actually get your first arm bar or triangle in sparring. I find one of the main reasons for this is people focus on the attack they want to do, rather than focusing on which attack is available to them based off of the grips and positioning their opponent is in.
    In this video I show how I got about picking which attack to build on from closed guard based off of what grips my opponent used to maintain his posture. I hope you liked the video and please like and share this video with a friend if you found it useful, it helps a lot for me growing the channel. Thanks!!
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Komentáře • 165

  • @hkazmi86
    @hkazmi86 Před 5 lety +160

    Can you make more of these conceptual "if this then that" type videos? This was really helpful

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 5 lety +47

      hkazmi86 yeah for sure, I think these if then style videos help a lot because I know there are a lot of videos on specific attacks but less about how to choose the correct one.

    • @hkazmi86
      @hkazmi86 Před 5 lety +2

      @@JonThomasBJJ agreed 100%. I've already started drilling this and I'm finding it helpful to build a strategic gameplan

    • @semi-progamer3643
      @semi-progamer3643 Před 3 lety

      Make some dvd Jon about this, its perfect

    • @anotherguy5038
      @anotherguy5038 Před 2 lety

      m.czcams.com/video/U9kUZa8EsPQ/video.html

  • @kcwliew
    @kcwliew Před 3 lety +10

    I've been training for 4 years and really frustrated with my closed guard - and now I understand why! No one has explained this to me before and I've been too thick to work it out on my own... tragedy!!! Thank you so much.

  • @ddarkeh6677
    @ddarkeh6677 Před 5 lety +24

    Love the fact that your not teaching specific attacks but trying to teach people to react to the opponent instead, too many times I see people attempting a single submission try to work it regardless if it’s working or not. Breath of fresh air, more concepts and methodologies please!

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 5 lety +3

      ddarkeh yeah so many people just focus on the technique they want to do rather than what the opponent is making available.

  • @gootintag5453
    @gootintag5453 Před 2 lety +2

    The triangle set up at 1:50 is one of my favorite triangle set ups. Pretty simple and effective

  • @fredorivers4120
    @fredorivers4120 Před 2 lety +2

    After practicing jiujitsu for 1 week and studying and watching your videos non stop I was able to sweep two white belts with two grades. I’m super proud of myself but i’m more grateful for these kind of videos!

  • @nelsonwang23
    @nelsonwang23 Před 2 lety +1

    Best Bjj content on CZcams.... period

  • @davebond7380
    @davebond7380 Před rokem +1

    Hello jon im an injured blue at the moment. At first your vids may well have been in chinese but now as ive advanced they really make sense thanks a lot keep it coming

  • @matu4251
    @matu4251 Před 5 lety +35

    Really good stuff. Could you do a similar video for butterfly guard?

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 5 lety +15

      matu4251 yeah for sure I’m starting to get back into playing it again as well, there are a few different types of butterfly as well so I will try to build off of understanding the different kinds first. Thanks for the feedback!!

    • @afpops
      @afpops Před 5 lety +1

      @@JonThomasBJJ Yes! This same style of video with different positions would be fantastic. Thanks for all the content.

    • @andrewbrown6512
      @andrewbrown6512 Před 4 lety

      @@JonThomasBJJ I second this! Connecting so many concepts with these videos!

  • @Snowynz
    @Snowynz Před 4 lety +11

    This content is so underrated. Pure gold.

  • @bgalvani
    @bgalvani Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks Jon! Amazing as usual!

  • @thefreedomproject4777
    @thefreedomproject4777 Před 2 lety

    This is more or less my whole game as a 10 month white belt 😅, I love it because it's easy to pull closed guard and from there you have attacks, sweeps, and you can take the back.

  • @andrewj6231
    @andrewj6231 Před 2 lety

    You’re becoming my go to for learning techniques. So glad you’re here.

  • @NotAllowedNearMilfs
    @NotAllowedNearMilfs Před 2 lety +1

    my man....Your teaching style makes all the difference in the world! Instead of just giving us a random grab bag of techniques without any context, you show a system of situation and response and how we can lead into our submissions. Thanks!
    The part where the opponent tries to drive back into you after you attempt a hip bump sweep, you showed how it leads back into the overlook pummeling game blew my mind. It all flows together as a system.

  • @MrGil619
    @MrGil619 Před 2 lety

    Game changer. Thanks sir 🤙🏼❤️

  • @quelove8556
    @quelove8556 Před 2 lety

    Love your teaching style.💯🤙🏾

  • @Kaane_
    @Kaane_ Před 4 lety

    Can't believe this stuff is free! Really helpful man. Thank you

  • @marlschult8130
    @marlschult8130 Před 4 lety

    Best Jiu Jitsu video I have seen. Stringing it all together.

  • @bryancjacobs
    @bryancjacobs Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks! This has allowed me to connect all the submissions and back takes that I've learned with the appropriate grip and hip movement to make them work!

  • @melanievoltz9844
    @melanievoltz9844 Před 2 lety

    This is exactly how I needed to have it explained to me. THANK YOU FOR THIS! Game changer in my closed guard offense.

  • @jeffreyclowes169
    @jeffreyclowes169 Před 4 lety

    This really hit the nail on the head for me! Will be drilling reacting this way. Thanks a lot!

  • @oruppel8214
    @oruppel8214 Před 2 lety

    The repummeling detail when getting the cross collar grip has been incredibly helpful. Thank you!

  • @Aceinthehole1179
    @Aceinthehole1179 Před 5 lety

    OUTSTANDING

  • @Galactus76
    @Galactus76 Před rokem

    Love it!!!! Great!!!! ❤

  • @nathanieltillman2355
    @nathanieltillman2355 Před 4 lety

    Nice set ups, well explained and easy to understand. Thank you very much for this, it's just what I was looking for.

  • @jonzwikk1582
    @jonzwikk1582 Před 4 lety

    Really good tips. Pls carry on and show more!

  • @ryanthomas986
    @ryanthomas986 Před 4 lety

    Quality as always! If more people thought about the setups like this they would be in a far superior position as a result, regardless of a sub or not. Thanks Jon!

  • @rafaelpaixao2
    @rafaelpaixao2 Před 4 lety

    awesome video, i'll have to rewatch it a few times, so much valuable details i cant afford to lose

  • @stephenlabash3314
    @stephenlabash3314 Před 2 lety

    Really appreciate your perspective & the need for contextual awareness as your rolling.

  • @shaynegreen
    @shaynegreen Před 4 lety

    Dude, your channel is gold. Thank you!

  • @stevecolvin1234
    @stevecolvin1234 Před rokem

    Great video. Closed guard is currently one of those positions where I freeze up on figuring out what to do next.

  • @rodrigorezende5841
    @rodrigorezende5841 Před 3 měsíci

    As a purple belt trying to simplify/specialize... this is a gem. Thank you, Jon.

  • @alejandrocorrales212
    @alejandrocorrales212 Před 3 lety

    Thanks man, super useful stuff 👍🏽

  • @jptothetree
    @jptothetree Před 5 lety

    Thanks for posting. Awesome content. Closed guard for lifeeeee

  • @MrAC8787
    @MrAC8787 Před 5 lety

    Loved this. Thank you!

  • @brucemoore4
    @brucemoore4 Před 5 lety +3

    Jon, Thanks for the content that you are producing. I always look forward to your videos. They are very informative and make me think.

  • @davebond7380
    @davebond7380 Před 4 lety

    Thanks I'm just on the cusp of this stuff I'm a 4 stripe white belt I'll keep watching this video thanks again

  • @dojoartesuave
    @dojoartesuave Před 4 lety

    Thanks, It's awesome!

  • @samholmes9065
    @samholmes9065 Před 5 lety +1

    love this style of video, as others have said please do this from other positions / guards, maybe a similar conceptual video for spider? so which attacks to go for depending on the posture + grips of the opponent, cheers dude really helpful!

  • @chrisgoods
    @chrisgoods Před 5 lety

    This is really good fundamental stuff... thanks so much for sharing.

  • @ThomasGrantMacDonald
    @ThomasGrantMacDonald Před 5 lety

    man great video. going to be studying/practicing these concepts for weeks. thanks jon

  • @Jamiebmurray
    @Jamiebmurray Před rokem

    Great overview snd spproach thsnks Jon

  • @robertmcclean4723
    @robertmcclean4723 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video John I always feel so lost in closed guard but there is always options which you clearly show . I currently train under Professor Sam Snow in Dallas who is highly complimentary of your game. Keep up the awesome work.

  • @danielgalhardi9321
    @danielgalhardi9321 Před rokem

    Great video! Thank you

  • @h2cker
    @h2cker Před 4 lety

    this was super helpful, exactly what i was looking for

  • @CraigBurgess
    @CraigBurgess Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome as always! I'd love to see a similar video for takedowns. The concepts and what you're looking for rather than specific moves. It's still an area I struggle with especially when I'm competing and I'm trying to push the pace to get the fight to the floor ASAP.

  • @affaefd4093
    @affaefd4093 Před 5 lety

    Great Instructional FREE VIDEOS!!!

  • @XJsosX
    @XJsosX Před 5 lety +1

    I never really comment, but damn man, all of your videos are amazing. I love it! Thank you so much for uploading these!

  • @angelwalkwithme
    @angelwalkwithme Před 5 lety

    Great video. Saw fixes to like 5 different problem areas I have in closed guard.

  • @Pocotouro
    @Pocotouro Před 5 lety

    Outstanding!

  • @markturner7755
    @markturner7755 Před 5 lety

    Thanks again, great content

  • @tobyzimmerman5663
    @tobyzimmerman5663 Před 5 lety +3

    Great Video!
    It would be super helpful to have one for each of the dominant/common positions; mount, back, side, open guard etc (offence & defense).
    I see the challenge in that the options from each position go off to infinity but I really liked how you gave a simple overview/framework.

  • @Transfunctioneer
    @Transfunctioneer Před 2 lety

    Just discovered your videos Jon and as a white belt they are absolute gems! Keep up the awesome content!

  • @daveclifford7895
    @daveclifford7895 Před 4 lety +1

    Really awesome video , I personally need more concepts like this 🤙🤙🤙

  • @theticoboy
    @theticoboy Před 5 lety +6

    Professor this is amazing content. You have a knack of filling in the gaps between beginner/advanced beginner and intermediate/advanced and connecting the dots better than I have ever seen! I think a very helpful video would be to have some ideas on what to do when you start falling behind in the grip fighting from these positions you covered. Should I abandon closed guard? Are there techniques to catch back up and get back to some of these attacking positions (i.e. high guard, over hook, flower sweeps etc.)?

  • @leinilyu
    @leinilyu Před 5 lety +6

    great video. pls address the double bicep stiff arm to stand up and double belt stiff arm as well.

  • @stephenrogalla2108
    @stephenrogalla2108 Před 5 lety +1

    Hey this was a really great video. Can you do more like this please? It was extremely helpful to hear and clarify that a setup is needed and that an armbar simply can't be thrown. I waste a lot of energy trying to throw submissions one after another then gassing out. Keeping the setup in mind will def improve my game many thanks!

  • @Nerales_
    @Nerales_ Před 5 lety

    This is fantastic

  • @dino_rider7758
    @dino_rider7758 Před 2 lety

    Very helpful!

  • @peter4sks
    @peter4sks Před 2 lety

    Great Stuff!

  • @ryan5726
    @ryan5726 Před 4 lety

    this awsome video helps a lot~

  • @caszper87
    @caszper87 Před 3 lety

    one of best bjj channels on the site

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 3 lety

      Thank you so much, it means a ton having the feedback and support! I’ll keep the videos coming!

  • @brodiehalbfoster9815
    @brodiehalbfoster9815 Před 5 lety

    This is gold!. Neil Melanson's triangle system is also built off your partners posture. It's not always possible to put your partner where you want them, so fight then where they are! This is what makes your jiu jitsu better. Thank you.

  • @GUTOMOFFICIAL
    @GUTOMOFFICIAL Před 4 lety

    Oh, definitely need this video as a Whtie Belt! Thanks!

  • @ncgrof
    @ncgrof Před 5 lety

    Nice video. I like how you talk about concepts

  • @joshhill7985
    @joshhill7985 Před 3 lety

    Great concept for an instructional, i'm a white belt and felt like i was looking for this type of video. 'General pointers to react to your opponent'. Im the guy trying to force the arm bar when its not there because i don't know where to go next. More vids like these please!

  • @robertgalloway3923
    @robertgalloway3923 Před 5 lety

    awesome! you are one of the most common sense black belts out there.

  • @diabolic42090
    @diabolic42090 Před 5 lety +3

    The high guard armbar at 4:20 is money

  • @lfcblaze
    @lfcblaze Před 8 měsíci +1

    Really good video, I’m trying to build an app which maps all these consequential moves into a flow

  • @okinawajapan1
    @okinawajapan1 Před 5 lety +1

    Love your content as always JT! I need more guard retention ideas. I keep getting passed still and put into running man then chair sit. Looking for escapes from chair sit.

  • @rnader4370
    @rnader4370 Před 4 lety

    Really helpful, yeah I’m guilty of trying to force whatever I have learned recently without thinking about what they are doing

  • @jedsanford7879
    @jedsanford7879 Před 8 měsíci

    amazing video as always. I have been struggling with decent attacks from closed guard, and I see that is due to not breaking posture well enough, and not cutting my angle soon enough. Need to use my hips more :)

  • @maximedelahaye6780
    @maximedelahaye6780 Před 3 lety

    i learn a lot with your videos

  • @mmaprophecies
    @mmaprophecies Před 4 lety

    Thank you! This will really help me as a blue belt.

  • @raeban7295
    @raeban7295 Před 3 lety

    I am addicted to you Jon🥰

  • @blackfrog1534
    @blackfrog1534 Před 5 lety

    Great vid!! Would love some more closed guard and/or mount attacks

  • @vladimiratanasov2304
    @vladimiratanasov2304 Před 3 lety

    "You need to be thinking about what position you're in and what's the correct choice for that time" - As a bjj beginner that was a great insight. Thank you!

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah it’s such a simple content but makes a tremendous difference in your mindset

  • @HypeOmanic
    @HypeOmanic Před 3 lety

    SOLID!!!

  • @michaelg457
    @michaelg457 Před 3 lety

    about 3 months in to BJJ, and this is super helpful to me - for the times I do manage to get someone in my guard lol, I don't know what to do and get my guard broken down after sometime, so big thanks :)

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 3 lety

      Yeah having good overview context helps a ton!

  • @skmfkr2
    @skmfkr2 Před 2 lety

    hip bump sweep and pendulum sweeps are my goto sweeps. hip bump seems to my most used. alot of the guys i train with are good at keeping their elbow in tight and good posture so the lets my sit for the hip bump sweep. cross collar choke is my goto sub. keep their posture down and then udner my arm for the other collar or reach over to grab material on their shoulder.

  • @loganlawrence4668
    @loganlawrence4668 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video. Love the conceptual/application angle instead of just spamming subs.

  • @bencookestunts
    @bencookestunts Před 5 lety +1

    Nice video Jon. A 1/2 guard version of this would be much appreciated ....!

  • @7Phoenix1
    @7Phoenix1 Před 3 lety

    We had Cao Terra come and do a seminar at our academy here in Adelaide not so long ago and one thing he said that stands out was "you don't just do what you want, you take what they give you" exactly as you were explaining here. Love this style of video, really helpful. Thanks so much. 👍

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 3 lety

      Jim Bobiddy Thanks buddy totally agree with him, you have to learn to take what they give you not just what you want. That’s the biggest mistake in Jiu Jitsu!

  • @anilyzerr
    @anilyzerr Před 2 lety

    excellent

  • @gregjennings9442
    @gregjennings9442 Před 6 měsíci

    Super on point for me. Tell Max H that Greg from S&G says Hi.

  • @sunwu101
    @sunwu101 Před 5 lety

    Loving the conceptual approach to teaching. Keep them coming! Hey everyone, fellow BJJ player in need of opinions. I'm frustrated with the way the art is taught (for the most part), to the point where I'm ready to walk away. I'm tired of doing 5 reps of one technique then moving on to another technique for 5 more, then another one, and on it goes, then we roll. After 9 months of training BJJ, I've come to learn that this approach is not the most effective way to train (for me at least). As a current school teacher and former Greco guy in the military, I know the value and progress that can be made by focusing on 1 maybe 2 things... drilling, positional sparring, then live wrestling from positions. I've tried finding the dedicated grappling nerd, but man people are flaky. Anyways, thanks for reading and thanks for any feedback.

  • @Dreadhead02productions

    This sure would have been handy to watch before my last comp...
    Next time i'll be more prepared!
    ....aaaaaaaaaand run into the next thing that flummoxes me :/
    Always more to learn :)

  • @RicardoDiaz21129
    @RicardoDiaz21129 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you

  • @stefan-t--
    @stefan-t-- Před 5 lety +1

    this is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaal good

  • @elucas1499
    @elucas1499 Před 5 lety +2

    Great content! Now that you've shown what to do for different grip setups in guard, could you do a part 2 with further detail on what attacks to do after breaking each grip?

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 5 lety

      E Lucas yeah I think I’m gonna do that next, also gonna make a video about concepts vs situational solutions

  • @ManiacbigD
    @ManiacbigD Před 5 lety

    nice real good tips imho

  • @vijaykrishnan12
    @vijaykrishnan12 Před 4 lety

    Firstly, Thank you for these videos.You are a wonderful teacher. Can you please make a similar closed guard video for NoGi?

  • @ptroncom
    @ptroncom Před 2 lety

    Excellent video. I think I’ll be less lost down there in guard (white belt)

  • @tommoeller7149
    @tommoeller7149 Před rokem

    Thx 👍

  • @breakfastwithdragons
    @breakfastwithdragons Před 11 měsíci

    YeSs ✨🧨

  • @jedicreeper805
    @jedicreeper805 Před 5 lety

    Good video. Those sequences or steps are very good to know. Could you do a video on breaking grips on lapel/belt?

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 5 lety +1

      jedicreeper805 yeah I might do a short post on IG about the details to breaking that grip on lapel

  • @craigdanielmaceacher
    @craigdanielmaceacher Před 5 lety

    More live match footage when you've successfully used what you show, please! Love your material, I find it a good medium between the tedium of Danaher and the short 30 second "Do this then this to win"-type BS videos all over CZcams.

    • @JonThomasBJJ
      @JonThomasBJJ  Před 5 lety

      craigdanielmaceacher forbsure I’ll try to film a bunch tomorrow actually it has been something I’ve been meaning to do for a while

  • @pbgmail2673
    @pbgmail2673 Před 5 lety +7

    Can you do a Half Guard Series, attacks and sweeps from both top and bottom position? Great video, think i'll be watching this many times. Looking forward to your seminar in Sligo next month.

  • @strayholograma
    @strayholograma Před 5 lety

    Closed guard is still gold

  • @lex6252
    @lex6252 Před 2 lety +1

    This was a really helpful video for a concept I've wanted to know but was never been taught. Question: Sometimes my opponent goes straight for putting their forearm across my throat for a choke, what would be a good option to defend that scenario?

  • @stevenpiroso3487
    @stevenpiroso3487 Před 2 lety

    Is there a follow up video we’re you go into detail regarding the attacks you show here? Also, these video are amazing. Thank you.