@Todd m Anything they ever teach in safety courses or site orientations is what he could have done. He clearly had enough intuition that this guy was inexperienced before the accident that he took out his phone to record him. He could have gotten out and spotted him before the young guy got himself into this scenario, he could have honked the horn in his machine to get his attention, he could have gotten out and ran to get in his eye line and signalled him to stop. Literally anything other than sit there and watch someone put themselves in a dangerous position and then say "saw that coming". There's a reason safety guys say "you see it, you own it." Well he saw it and made no effort to prevent it. He's just as responsible for this accident.
@Todd m Well I can tell you that "not my problem" attitude would 100% not fly on many big sites these days, especially oil and gas ones. Safety isn't an individual responsibility. You see someone that needs a spotter especially someone inexperienced, you step in and help them, then if the drivers fine, he can tell you he's fine. Not many people say no to an extra set of eyes. Attitudes like that is why they keep adding more and more legislation, safety training, and paperwork because having personally been on sites where people died, when the big bosses start asking "What could everyone do to make this site safer?" Just observing "the stupidity unfolding in front of him" is a pretty stupid answer. Just my opinion though.
Somehow the fault goes to the guy who said “saw it coming” 😂😂😂😂 Maybe learn how to do the job before doing it???? LMAO the kid doesn’t know how to ask for help? 😂😂😂
my pappy used to say "learn to walk before you start to run". mistakes around heavy machinery can be fatal. train yourself before sitting in the driving seat of these iron behemoths
you run up to that hoe and say something, hero. unless you are in line of sight of the operator there is no way you should be going near that accident. self preservation.
Bro bro my dad did that to me once where I was walking on joists above wall and one had a big dead eye if that’s what it’s called but he said he was looking at me from down below in front of the house sitting on top of the roof trusses he had cut and just saw me fall bc it broke my ass went straight down😭😭
I thought the same thing. It’s one thing when someone says they can operate when they can’t and you let them fail but this looks bad on the company as a whole. From the outside it looks like they can’t handle the task and a potential hazard. Even if you hate the company you work for just letting stuff like this happen is bad for future business & “could” be the difference in being laid off for a few weeks or not.
Thank you, and i hope more people see this comment. People SHOULD NOT be afraid to fuck up, it’s part of life. In order to perfect something you must first fail and try again time after time.
It looked like he was actively trying to put it in that trench, every time he moved the bucket, he moved with the pivot of the rig as apposed to going against it so it actually supports the facking thing.
I agree with you guys, he might of been wrong honestly by saying he’s and experienced operator but as soon as saw him messing up you should of spoke and said something, not just stand there and record 🤦🏽♂️it’s called a fcking test for a reason, you need to test somebody first and then send him off to a REAL PROJECT! There’s some people that would even go out of their way to teach them if they know that he has no idea what he’s doing but there’s very few who would actually consider doing that.
“Saw that coming” Being a foreman, I always give the veteran guys shit when they witness a green horn fuck up like that, it fucking boils my blood. Especially when they record or shout to other guys and tell them to watch. We all started from the bottom at one point, so do the right thing a speak up.
how do you know the cameraman is a veteran? how do you know that the kid didn't get cocky and didn't listened when everyone advised him to stop? your white knighting about a situation that you know nothing about is pathetic
@@lordjaashin it’s about being a bigger person in those situations man, even if someone was being a cocky little shit. If you want to watch someone get seriously injured or killed be my guest. Doesn’t matter if the camera guy is a veteran or not he’s witnessing it happen, walk over and pull the guy out of the machine and tell him to take a break and explain the situation in a level headed manor. Guys like you are too full of an ego to be the bigger person though.
@@frankdieber7090 people like you are always a pain in my ass because you're all the same type of asshole. You see someone need help and you always say shit like "it's not my problem" "they should've known better" "it's none of my business" "I knew they were gonna fuck up" and all that shit but then y'all always cry when y'all fuck up. "Everybody stood around and didn't say nothing" "someone could've spotted me but chose to let me mess up" "it could have been prevented if someone stepped in and said something" and a bunch of other excuses despite claiming that they will "always" claim their own mess up when it happens. Another thing is that y'all have the same excuses when it comes to not helping people which is things like "nobody helps me when I need help" but yet YOU'RE that type of person that says "I know what I'm doing so get the hell out of my way" so people avoid you when you need help and you'll cry about nobody wanting to help you and think you're a lone wolf or someyhing when it's you that put yourself in that position.
@@frankdieber7090 keep working for the big man your whole life. There’s a reason you aren’t up in management by now. Go get those pants dirty bright and early in the morning
Dude who “saw that coming” absolutely needs to get fired and sued. Could’ve cost the company a fatality/lawsuit and prevented the damage to the machine and any towing to get it out.
You want to fire the only one that had sense enough to know that the 19 year old that some jack-wagon hired to run an excavator had no idea what he was doing???? Hell, this guy deserves a raise. Maybe the lying kid and the dpst who hired him ought to be fired . . .
@@jasonjackson6055 I disagree... I have a 19 year old and a 22 year old who are damn good operators. Of course I am not expecting them to know how to handle every situation, maybe in 5 years or so they will know a lot but I stress that if they uncomfortable then say something and myself or my veteran operator will instruct them.
I've actually seen young guys who operate heavy equipment better than people who's done it for 20 years. Operating equipment is like a talent that's born in you.
That's a fact! I work occasionally with a 15 year old, and he is great! And I have run equipment for 40 years! The youg man is a real pleasure to work with!
I have that talent. I suppose I was born with it. If it has tracks, tires, wings, or a rotor...I'm your guy. I'm not bragging. There are plenty of things that I am not good at. All people are born with natural talents from their creator...
I became a good operator because my dad “saw that comin” and helped me out of shit situations like that. Truly lucky to have a pop that didn’t make working for him hell.
Lol right ,working with my uncle was like that. he died of lung cancer and 2 brain tumors. he would sooner tell you to go get the board stretcher or, bitch about paying you 11 dollars an hour wasn't worth what he was getting out of me. I was a straight donkey.. oh well, I went to welding school and I got a fabrication job, fresh out, making 28 dollars an hour, and all the fuckers are self taught🤣
Obviously this says more about his shitty crew than him! When I was a young man me and my crew were like family we watched out for each other at all times!
Yea, I’m sorry.. I don’t care if the punk kid deserved it. You gotta say something… help the kid out. That’s the difference of being an adult.. be the bigger man..
Or... when I'm too self interested, arrogant, self centered, and selfish to get off my ass and prevent this situation from occurring. They both should've been fired.
@@Mark-zj7hn the operator clearly didn't know What he was doing, this whole clip was decided within the last few seconds so it was quite hard to stop it from happening so no reason for the bystander to be sacked
Every site I've worked on if someone "saw that coming" they would of done something. A team is where it's at not this bullshit letting others fail so you don't look as stupid.
Im a heavy equipment operator too. Dont care if you are the best #1 in the world operating an excavator please in the future instead of filming help that 19yr old learn the proper skill pass it down thats how it supposed to be in a construction team. "TEAM" this.
People hate on the guy that saw that coming. I’ve been in situations where I saw a huge mistake coming yet it didn’t happen cause the guy handled the situation. He saw it coming, but there is an expectation that the operator feels the tractor and should know the what to do. If he fails then those are the best lessons, next time he will gain enough experience and be excessively cautious.
love the older guys acting like they never had to learn anything and have always had the skills they have. teach the young ones so your industry doesn’t die when all you die 😂 *edit : to everyone simply talkin about their experiences thank you. To all you mf’s who think your mindset is the only correct mindset, gtfo you’re either too old or just plain n simple ignorant.
I haven't seen one of those comments yet. Seems like everyone agrees that the guy recording needs to be let go. I agree with you. Everyone makes mistakes when they first start out.
@@MadNlGER They could prevent people “putting their life and others in danger” by helping the kid out and getting the equipment out safely. . For example; If somebody is new to doing brakes on a vehicle, you don’t let them do it wrong and then speak up when the vehicle crashes and injured or kills someone. You help them do it right the first time to prevent incidents.
@@MadNlGER only way to get in... you think in todays world where they have some HR person who doesn't know anything about the work just list a superhero level list for a entry level position...
The only reason that never happened to me when I was breaking in was that more experienced men stopped me when I was doing wrong and taught me what to do instead of watching me fuck up.
I've been doing this for 37 years, and any real foreman knows that their job is to direct, teach, mentor, and motivate their crew. It's fine to punk or prank new employees. It's a part of the learning process in construction. Too many "foremans" try to punk the younger generation in situations like this. Instead of sitting there being a smart ass trying to f*ck the new guy who is a kid with obvious no experience, he should have had him demonstrate the functions of the excavator beforehand, which would have forced the kid to be a little more honest with ability and the foreman could have trained him from there.
So pro tip is this: when you see a 19 yo about to kill him self , you dont go and stop him , you just sit there and wait 🤔. We all been there at least once. Get stuck , panic , and start making mistakes. Lucky me that my coworkers weren't like this guy
Shit happened to me... I was sliding down a log road in a skidsteer my second day on the job because the guy before me put the throttle lock on and keep in mind this is my second day so i barely knew the thing and I got going too fast down the hill and rolled it off the hill. I get back to the site ready to lose my job and the guys standing there where like "man we seen you having a hell of a time but we knew you would figure it out" well i didn't... I didn't even ask about the 2 days pay I just left.
@@thecommenter6839 I was using excavators way back in the 60s. Did no one think to give you an operator's manual before even getting aboard? That is the first thing I always asked for. If one wasn't available I wouldn't operate the machine.
@@lordfrazerirwin990 Nope. It was 1999 i just turned 17 and got offered a job at $15/hr 8 hours a day and i didn't hesitate. One of the other experienced guys showed me the controls and everything I had to do and the first day was perfect everything went fine but the second day the same guy was driving the skid steer before me and I didn't know a throttle position lock existed in machines... It was set half throttle and up on the flat that's fine we where full throttle everywhere in those slow machines but when I went down the hill I didn't know how to slow it down so I shut it off and down the side we slid😒. I later heard that they pulled it back up and the swing door broke and the forks bent so I might have been ok with an ass chewing but the embarrassment wasn't worth going back. And to top it off the other guys saw me having issues all day with the forks going too fast because the throttle was too high and they said "i would figure it out eventually". Glad I'm past that shit.
I'm a lineman and I get out of the truck to help my groundman back up. Because I can see more from behind the bucket truck. Guess who can see more from the ground, when I'm in the bucket? Be the leader you'd want to follow. The guy with the camera would be packing his stuff, if this was my crew. You scratch my back and I'll scratch your's. Talk about me behind my back and we be seeing you.
So, rather than stop him using your horn, waving your bucket, etc. you not only chose to watch, but you potentially could have watched someone die. You’re the guy no one wants around.
“I saw that coming” guy should be fired on the spot. Putting that kids, and people around his lives in danger. If I was on that site and heard that I woulda been fired that day too for beating someone with a pipe wrench...
@@caddiman1990 I was thinking the same thing! Guy probably already offered his assistance and the kid refused, insisting that he knew best. So the guy did the next best thing and filmed the mishap 😂
Yup thats people instead of step in and encourage n give advice videO n gloat when people fail thats not gonna make anything better verry low quality human being here least the kid is tryin
I worked construction this how they roll it's pretty much a fuck you attitude figure it out for yourself....not for me man ...I quit 26/hr seasonal job in Ohio and moved back to ga...best decision I coulda made 8 years ago now making just as much and I'll be at 100k next year driving truck for a top grocery chain in the south
“I saw that coming” If I was that boss you would be fired. Why not get out and help the kid. No, film it and laugh with him. You must be the best teammate!
Right!!! What happened to being your brothers keeper??? Looking out for each other! This guys a joke. Looks like I have my topic for our next safety meeting. LOL.
That was such an easy recovery if the dude would've just stepped in and teach him a good lesson. The guy who simply dont give a f about anything or anyone but themselves are always the most dangerous ones. Not the ignorant.
@@chuckbailey6835 I’ve been looking for this exact reply. Of course the CZcams experts all want to bash the dude that said “could’ve seen” but none of them know how to think outside the box of; what if management made the decision to put the kid there then told the others to shut up and let him go.....nobody seems to think of that scenario...
@@thesouthernpatriot24 bc all the yrs ive been in construction/logging. Ive never ever seen management say “leave him alone do not help him” if i see a kid fucking up 9 times out of 10 im stepping in to make sure he doesnt die
@@z0ffi928 so in all your years you never came across an arrogant Punk that thinks he knows every thing and wont listen to a guy thats been doing it longer then he's been alive and the only reason he has the job is because the owner is his uncle or some other relative?
Dude swung the bucket in the exact opposite direction he needed to swing it. He needed to swing it left and push down on the ground to prevent it from falling back.
Random older guy- “Kids don’t learn or can’t do anything these days!!” Older guy when he has a chance to teach the younger generation- “…………. I saw that coming…….”
Maybe he shouldn’t say he’s an operator if he’s not an operator. How’s that for a start. If he’s a licensed operator you let them operate. If you were to come around my cab while I’m in a situation like this to break my concentration you’re ganna get your ass chewed. I might not be pipeline but I’m crane and rigging. Stay out of my envelope while I’m operating or get fucked up by me and my entire crew.
@@mrmidnight32 As an ironworker I'll "come into your envelope" and you better move that crane EXACTLY how I tell you to move it or it'll be me and MY crew who's fuckin someone up.
@@dukecraig2402 🤦♂️ you’d be part of the crane crew if you’re rigging it dumb ass. The fact you thought you came in to disagree but with out realizing you completely just proved my point exactly 😂
“Saw that coming” Someone get this guy off the site. The younger guys will get so much farther as operators if you just give them a couple tips and help.
Some people don't take advice, they already know it all. We can't say/know what the deal was here. Don't know whether he was getting off the ditch or back on it. Either way, I have worked alot of jobs where someone would rather watch you sink as they had help you swim. Most of the time its because they're scared you're after their job. So you look bad, they look better.
He's the one that applied for an excavator job and told the boss he could operate..,..that's the problem these days....all you have to do is get it started and move the control leavers for the trainer and apparently that makes you an operator
@@johnnydavies1970 I used to work in a sand/ledge mining operation and the amount of "operators" That came in to apply was tremendous. Theyd hop in to the loader dig a hole while scooping from a pile and get 1/4 filled buckets. "i've been doing it for 15 years though" no, no way in hell cya
Yeah I'm really serious about safety. And I know how that operator feels. He was probably waiting for someone to help him. The way he was moving the equipment around tells you he was making uncertain adjustments to get someone's help
I'd probably fire the guy recording if I was the boss here. You don't let a kid who obviously has no idea what he's doing operate machines and then just stand there and film him wrecking it.
You don’t let someone get in deep and then watch them destroy equipment and the job site. As a leader the leader is supposed to step in and do some damage control. Save the trench, the excavator and the kids life. Breaking glass is one thing but letting someone lay an excavator over is another. I hope OSHA sees this. They’ll investigate to see if the guy recording had an OSHA safety card. They’ll revoke it and probably write him a personal fine for allowing a dangerous situation to continue.
Especially the fact that looks like a damn near brand new machine. Kid just cost 3 paychecks in damage to the machine, hours to dig him out, and the new pants he now needs to buy before they send his ass home
I’ve been out of school since 2011 and working in the pipeline industry since… I’m so thrilled by the comments on this video. I broke out with old timers that would never of allowed someone to make a fuck up like that they would have used it as a teaching moment.
As a young operator i love it when guys go up to me telling me what i am doing wrong. And when I am doing something i never really done before. You'd be surprised the amount of times i get of the machine just to see what is really going on
Some guys won't get out for embarrassment that they'll be seen as clearly being new and having little clue. But after something like this happens you learn better safe than sorry. I think.
“Hey, track forward with the left side.” - No embarassment. - No safety roundtable. - No equipment damage. - First superintendent that ever did something useful.
The guy is an asshole. But track forward would not have worked without breaking the pipeline. Honestly it is a situation that was not that salvageable once he was in it. But he could have tried
You have a radio to communicate with each other. If my boss heard that you "Saw it coming" the both of you would be in deep shit. Great teamwork here...
“Saw that comin”… Yet decided to say and do nothing. That would in fact imply, you did not “see that comin”, and you are just as incompetent as the operator 👍🏻
@@uselessinformation1702 sometimes you have to let a man learn the hard way. guarantee you that kid won’t ever make that mistake again. nanny culture is how you get a sick society like we have today.
@@steviechampagne i guess as long as you dont have to pick up the damage tab its fine.. Kid learned a lesson, company owner lost a few grand... Who cares.
A friend from high school once told a construction foreman he could drive the water truck, which he couldn't. After talking someone into teaching him - 20 years later he is now the foreman planning and implementing soil movement before freeways are built. But if some chump just sat there and recorded a video of him failing to drive a water truck the outcome would have been different. It is a new world we live in and the trades are going down hill to where - like the police - nobody will volunteer to take the open positions if this lack of empathy mess keeps up.
Facts. I’m a 21 year old lube tech and can almost make a living off changing oil. Nobody in my generation wants to get dirty. Paying off debt till I’m 30 or 40 isn’t for me
@Caper Guy okay kid? That's all you got? Truth Hurts, don't it? Even if they didn't have radios to communicate. He could have gotten out, waved him down, and proceeded to help him get out of the situation. You're an idiot.
The really sad part is the man that sat there and watched him do it instead of stopping him and getting him off the machine before he tore it up or hurt somebody or himself
This is why I always help my kids when they are having a difficult time with their task. I teach them the proper way and show them how they can improve. This guy is just an asshole, but I’ve worked in construction and it’s typically every man for himself unless you have a good foreman or super intendant
Yup its been like that for me too, every man for himself, they don't want the young new guy with potential to rise up out of fear of them getting replaced, Ive seen alot of that
My dad taught me waaayyyy different lol. If he was teaching me to run a bobcat, front end loader, dump truck, semi, or any other equipment we had on our farm he’d let me get into situations like this. Saying the same shit these guys are saying, “hey watch what Riley’s about to do.” And if I got myself stuck he’d let me get myself out, if something broke in the process he’d teach me how to fix it then make my ass get the damn thing out. He started doing this with me at like 10. I’m 25 now and way better for it. I think the kid running that excavator learn a lot from that, and he most likely won’t do that again and if he does he’ll have a better chance of getting out.
@@rileyhooper7911 as long as the lesson was learned then us parents have succeeded in our job 🤘🏽 glad your father was a influence to help you become a better man, worker, and human. Too many dead beat mothers and fathers these days, cheers!
Depends how expensive the mistake is. Ain’t no substitute for fucking up and learning from it, so if it’s not a super expensive mistake, then so what? That said, I don’t know how expensive this was.
@@rileyhooper7911 your father is a wise man, and good to see you appreciating the growth from those tough learning lessons! Failure brings success in so many ways.
If he "saw that coming", why not offer to spot or guide the operator? Even if we were to assume he's 19 and determined to prove himself, he's still not doing it right. Being an excavator operator myself, I know how easily that can happen.
And the guy filming was making a delivery and knows nothing about operating that heavy machinery. So why would he go tell someone what to do when he knows nothing about it?
The recorder was probably selfish and was just looking for entertainment. He could've been a mentor and correct the young man, instead of just watching him fail. It's sad that our humanity is dwindling, where did our compassion go?
I’ve operated for awhile byt never went over trenches like this. Was the mistake that he swung right instead of left to triangulate it better or was his whole position off?
Ranger bullshit The only person in this video that needs to learn from his mistake is the guy recording the video I don’t care who you are what you are who you think you are you don’t let a guy put a machine like that on its side the guy recording the film needs to be fired
Agreed, it wasn't really that dangerous.. young bloke learnt, he had a laugh while the young bloke revised his digger course while hand shovelling the ditch he destroyed
I operate heavy equipment and work in the construction industry, and there is a serious problem among men in this line of work when it comes to being an example for the younger guys. Everyone is quick to talk shit about others, discredit/knock their work, or simply just watch them fail instead of being a leader or role model for others to imitate.
What I love is how many people seem to think that you'll just magically gather knowledge with age with 0 instruction, or fuck ups. Reinvent the wheel without scraping an inch of wood.
Lots of experienced operators out there probably applied for that job, truth is that the greenhorn young lad got hired for $15 and the experienced guy wanted $30. This is on the company.
@@purecash2574 probably a government contractor so it applies to any state. Road crews can make anywhere from $10 to $50 an hour working for the same company simply based on who the contract is with. Private jobs vary greatly so no point trying to place them, but as far as government contracts county pays the least, then state, and federal contracts pay the most because of wage laws associated with government contracts.
@@jaydunbar7538 depends on the career too. If you’re a road crew spraying polyurethane on a bridge, you’re making 20 just for travel to the job. 30+ an hour to do the job. Ive been on jobs with completely handicapped people making 25 an hour. If you wanna make big money, work government roads.
“ I saw that coming” Translation: I saw someone was putting themselves and other people at risk. While at the same time damaging a 400,000$ piece of equipment…and did nothing
All it took was for the guy watching to say “STOP” and explain to the kid what he did wrong and how to get out of the situation without wrecking anything
Wow, imagine just stamding there filming it instead of trying to help him get out of a sticky situation ..... The person filming this is the kind of person who would watch a non swimmer drown
@@T.M.... yet so easy for you to make assumptions. go figure you'd be on the wrong side, and back your wrong-side-argument up with an assumption. you proved the point lmao
@@MayorZach you clearly know nothing about construction site safety protocols. But let me school your dense intelligence. A "Safety Work Method Statement" is mandatory for all workers to complete prior to undertaking any high risk work. Which means providing a backhoe/loader licence in this scenario. Also the operator and or site manager should of had a spotter whilst this excavation work was being undertaken. Clearly many boxes were not ticked prior to this work. Therefore my original comment still stands corrected. But judging by your mentality, you would be the dunce to jump into an excavator and start work without following any safety measures. Congratulations on receiving a Darwin award.
@@T.M.... I hold no responsibility towards your inability to formulate a simple statement to convey your point. Your initial response said "can't fix stupid" which has merit. But without knowing who you're calling the dumb one, you're not making a solid enough statement for anyone outside of construction occupations to even figure out who you were calling dumb. But let's expand on dumb. The Darwin award is only given to dead people. Congrats. You're familiar with the word dense just like you're familiar with the words "hard to work with", because after enough times telling a moron something he'll finally internalize it.
That's a baseless assumption, you may be right but the young operator may have told the old guy on sight to F off when he offered advice 5 minutes ago as well. Fact is we simply don't know so any judgment is based on baseless assumptions.
@@jaydunbar7538 it doesn’t matter. If the “boss” stands back and says “saw that coming” it’s HIS ass. Not the rookie. Dumbfuck should not be running a job if he does shit like this.
Truth is, that kid should not be in that machine. If he cannot overcome a simple obstacle like that he damned sure don't need to be operating that machine with workers in the hole or within reach. Bunch of bleeding hearts! Probably the bosses little boy anyway. The man videoing this did the right thing. He stood clear and safe
As an operator myself my motto has always been You can learn something new every day on a piece of equipment as long as you don't already think you know it all. I enjoy helping new comers learn on the machines. I know a lot of dicks that like to see them fail too though. They're the ones that need to be sent packin. They're dangerous.
Babe ruth is always regarded as the greatest baseball player that ever lived. He's also the guy that once held the record for most strike outs. Even pros make mistakes
"Even pros make mistakes" I would change this line to "The pros are pros because they are the ones who dare to take risks and make lot of mistakes, therefore they become the best of the pros"
Well I’m glad that I’m retired , these so called journeyman should be helping a young guy out, I trained many apprentices by putting with the best man on my crew or with myself, someone took time to show me 50 years ago to make me a good craftsman, just letting young workers make mistakes and possibly be injured or killed or damaging equipment is just ignorance at its finest
sometimes a hard lesson drives it home better. I've seen many cocky apprentices think they're hot stuff and don't take advice nor respect their seniors only to land on their bottoms. the door opens both ways. not every blame should land on veterans especially when the younger generation we are getting are total know it all slackers
@@lordjaashin your are right it is harder now days but cocky or not I always stopped them for safety’s sake and I would go tell the super if they don’t listen to me , they don’t work for me. If young people would get into the trades , you can make excellent money and work your way up and be a journeyman in a few years and have a good job and retirement, college is not fr everyone
@@specialopsdave do you forget that government arms 18 year olds and send them in war? 19 year old is adult enough to know to not fool around but they rarely listen to their elders. the video clearly shows that the punk was warned beforehand not to fool around the heavy machinery but alas he went down like icarus.
The real danger here is the guy that “saw that coming” and chose to do nothing. Those are the types of guys that get people killed on sites.
@Todd m Anything they ever teach in safety courses or site orientations is what he could have done. He clearly had enough intuition that this guy was inexperienced before the accident that he took out his phone to record him. He could have gotten out and spotted him before the young guy got himself into this scenario, he could have honked the horn in his machine to get his attention, he could have gotten out and ran to get in his eye line and signalled him to stop. Literally anything other than sit there and watch someone put themselves in a dangerous position and then say "saw that coming". There's a reason safety guys say "you see it, you own it." Well he saw it and made no effort to prevent it. He's just as responsible for this accident.
@Todd m Well I can tell you that "not my problem" attitude would 100% not fly on many big sites these days, especially oil and gas ones. Safety isn't an individual responsibility.
You see someone that needs a spotter especially someone inexperienced, you step in and help them, then if the drivers fine, he can tell you he's fine. Not many people say no to an extra set of eyes. Attitudes like that is why they keep adding more and more legislation, safety training, and paperwork because having personally been on sites where people died, when the big bosses start asking "What could everyone do to make this site safer?"
Just observing "the stupidity unfolding in front of him" is a pretty stupid answer.
Just my opinion though.
What do you expect him to do Mr. OSHA agent
Somehow the fault goes to the guy who said “saw it coming” 😂😂😂😂
Maybe learn how to do the job before doing it???? LMAO the kid doesn’t know how to ask for help? 😂😂😂
Use your radio/walkie talkies which every site should have unless it's run by an incompetent idiot who sees everything coming
As my grandad used to say “the man who never made a mistake, never made anything”.
Sounds like a smart man.
my pappy used to say "learn to walk before you start to run". mistakes around heavy machinery can be fatal. train yourself before sitting in the driving seat of these iron behemoths
Smart man.
@Tuna Breakfast2.0 since you got triggered by two words i think you have a degree in snowflake studies
En español: el hombre que no tuvo un error, es porque no hizo nada.
Operator made a mistake.
"I saw that coming" made a choice.
"see something, say something"
He probably did. And the boss was like “he’s fine don’t worry about it”
lmaoo yeah and nothing ever happens till they saw this video and weeks of free money for that "opperator"
you run up to that hoe and say something, hero. unless you are in line of sight of the operator there is no way you should be going near that accident. self preservation.
Bro bro my dad did that to me once where I was walking on joists above wall and one had a big dead eye if that’s what it’s called but he said he was looking at me from down below in front of the house sitting on top of the roof trusses he had cut and just saw me fall bc it broke my ass went straight down😭😭
My words exactly. Dude had 3 separate times/moves where i would have stopped and said something.
“I saw that coming” but he didn’t stop the operator.
I was thinking the same thing why didn’t you go help him out instead of watching him potentially get hurt
You know,people just want to watch somebody fail.
Maybe this particular operator had already made it clear they knew everything 🤔
We all could see this coming but most of us dont have the experience to get that machine somewhere safe
He was probably sick to death of tellin her
How about, “When an idiot lets a 19 year old be a pipeline operator, sit down and records the whole thing”. Wasting money and timed for the company.
Phuk the company
Cock
I thought the same thing. It’s one thing when someone says they can operate when they can’t and you let them fail but this looks bad on the company as a whole. From the outside it looks like they can’t handle the task and a potential hazard. Even if you hate the company you work for just letting stuff like this happen is bad for future business & “could” be the difference in being laid off for a few weeks or not.
Sure bruh, just run over to that excavator and hop in to tell him to stop... That's not risky...
@@mcspikesky or just not let him do it in the first place.
Beginning of a good operater , you can only learn from mistakes , his young beginning
Thank you, and i hope more people see this comment. People SHOULD NOT be afraid to fuck up, it’s part of life. In order to perfect something you must first fail and try again time after time.
You dont learn like that! You learn in a sand pit where you literally cant tip over the machine
Would probably learn quicker if his co workers wanted to help him out too instead of filming his failures
It looked like he was actively trying to put it in that trench, every time he moved the bucket, he moved with the pivot of the rig as apposed to going against it so it actually supports the facking thing.
He’s lucky to have hands on training,,,but can be dangerous
What a team player! Didn’t even help his fellow operator during a “coaching moment” no safety culture
Its a terrible world that we live in now where young folks just want to record otger folks messing up instead of helping
I agree with you guys, he might of been wrong honestly by saying he’s and experienced operator but as soon as saw him messing up you should of spoke and said something, not just stand there and record 🤦🏽♂️it’s called a fcking test for a reason, you need to test somebody first and then send him off to a REAL PROJECT!
There’s some people that would even go out of their way to teach them if they know that he has no idea what he’s doing but there’s very few who would actually consider doing that.
@@gabrielpichardo1492 young folks? Lol it's gen x and boomers that raised this culture
“Saw that coming” Being a foreman, I always give the veteran guys shit when they witness a green horn fuck up like that, it fucking boils my blood. Especially when they record or shout to other guys and tell them to watch. We all started from the bottom at one point, so do the right thing a speak up.
Personally I’d fire the foreman for acting like that
I would work for you!
Id fire the lookey lou
how do you know the cameraman is a veteran? how do you know that the kid didn't get cocky and didn't listened when everyone advised him to stop?
your white knighting about a situation that you know nothing about is pathetic
@@lordjaashin it’s about being a bigger person in those situations man, even if someone was being a cocky little shit. If you want to watch someone get seriously injured or killed be my guest. Doesn’t matter if the camera guy is a veteran or not he’s witnessing it happen, walk over and pull the guy out of the machine and tell him to take a break and explain the situation in a level headed manor. Guys like you are too full of an ego to be the bigger person though.
“I Saw that coming” get rid of the guy who said that
@Frank Dieber this is why you will never be in management
@@frankdieber7090 keep on doing you brother. You'll never be anything in your damn life, loser
@@frankdieber7090 people like you are always a pain in my ass because you're all the same type of asshole.
You see someone need help and you always say shit like "it's not my problem" "they should've known better" "it's none of my business" "I knew they were gonna fuck up" and all that shit but then y'all always cry when y'all fuck up.
"Everybody stood around and didn't say nothing" "someone could've spotted me but chose to let me mess up" "it could have been prevented if someone stepped in and said something" and a bunch of other excuses despite claiming that they will "always" claim their own mess up when it happens.
Another thing is that y'all have the same excuses when it comes to not helping people which is things like "nobody helps me when I need help" but yet YOU'RE that type of person that says "I know what I'm doing so get the hell out of my way" so people avoid you when you need help and you'll cry about nobody wanting to help you and think you're a lone wolf or someyhing when it's you that put yourself in that position.
Right , for one kid could kill himself #2 that machine is stupid expensive #3 in Canada that whole spread is shutdown for days weeks possibly months .
@@frankdieber7090 keep working for the big man your whole life. There’s a reason you aren’t up in management by now. Go get those pants dirty bright and early in the morning
Dude who “saw that coming” absolutely needs to get fired and sued. Could’ve cost the company a fatality/lawsuit and prevented the damage to the machine and any towing to get it out.
You want to fire the only one that had sense enough to know that the 19 year old that some jack-wagon hired to run an excavator had no idea what he was doing???? Hell, this guy deserves a raise. Maybe the lying kid and the dpst who hired him ought to be fired . . .
@@jasonjackson6055exactly, I don't get these people they are spamming the same shit as guy above 🙄
But it makes sense, lies always travel faster then truth
@@jasonjackson6055 I disagree... I have a 19 year old and a 22 year old who are damn good operators. Of course I am not expecting them to know how to handle every situation, maybe in 5 years or so they will know a lot but I stress that if they uncomfortable then say something and myself or my veteran operator will instruct them.
@jasonjackson6055 I'm guessing you're the captain hindsight in this video🤣
I've actually seen young guys who operate heavy equipment better than people who's done it for 20 years. Operating equipment is like a talent that's born in you.
Spitting truth. You either have it or you don't. You 90% learn from mistakes.
That's a fact! I work occasionally with a 15 year old, and he is great! And I have run equipment for 40 years! The youg man is a real pleasure to work with!
I have that talent. I suppose I was born with it. If it has tracks, tires, wings, or a rotor...I'm your guy. I'm not bragging. There are plenty of things that I am not good at. All people are born with natural talents from their creator...
Totally agree
@@jasonjackson6055 OUR creator my guy, we all share the same heavenly father! Very well said though.
I became a good operator because my dad “saw that comin” and helped me out of shit situations like that. Truly lucky to have a pop that didn’t make working for him hell.
Lol right ,working with my uncle was like that. he died of lung cancer and 2 brain tumors. he would sooner tell you to go get the board stretcher or, bitch about paying you 11 dollars an hour wasn't worth what he was getting out of me. I was a straight donkey.. oh well, I went to welding school and I got a fabrication job, fresh out, making 28 dollars an hour, and all the fuckers are self taught🤣
Obviously this says more about his shitty crew than him! When I was a young man me and my crew were like family we watched out for each other at all times!
Yea, I’m sorry.. I don’t care if the punk kid deserved it. You gotta say something… help the kid out. That’s the difference of being an adult.. be the bigger man..
@@scottyglenwalker2345 damn dude go to English school next. That was a damn mouthful. Read it as is and tell me I'm wrong.
@@getinthecar3624 why pretend like I know where to put commas when I don't when I read peoples stuff I read it in my head or did you read it Out loud🤣
Video should be renamed- “When your boss hires a 19 year old pipeline operator.”
"when your boss doesn't want to pay a professional and gets cheap labour instead"
Or... when I'm too self interested, arrogant, self centered, and selfish to get off my ass and prevent this situation from occurring. They both should've been fired.
Probably the bosses nephew or something.
@@Mark-zj7hn the operator clearly didn't know What he was doing, this whole clip was decided within the last few seconds so it was quite hard to stop it from happening so no reason for the bystander to be sacked
Cough his son cough
The “I saw that coming” guy is the guy who is your prob.
Every site I've worked on if someone "saw that coming" they would of done something. A team is where it's at not this bullshit letting others fail so you don't look as stupid.
“I saw that coming” .. Ha, buddy You’re the guy nobody wants around during work. Do your job bro !
The company tattle tale. Throw him in the seat, he'd do much worse but this video is proof of his value versus someone's failure
@@skramincyou don’t think too much do you
@@tylerwynn418no he dont😂😂😂
Facts
Yeah you saw it but did you really do something about it? Your a tool
Im a heavy equipment operator too. Dont care if you are the best #1 in the world operating an excavator please in the future instead of filming help that 19yr old learn the proper skill pass it down thats how it supposed to be in a construction team. "TEAM" this.
Kid probably knew it all and was the boss's kid so the guys let him show em how it's done
Hey we all started that way as well.😮
People hate on the guy that saw that coming. I’ve been in situations where I saw a huge mistake coming yet it didn’t happen cause the guy handled the situation. He saw it coming, but there is an expectation that the operator feels the tractor and should know the what to do.
If he fails then those are the best lessons, next time he will gain enough experience and be excessively cautious.
You don’t think real good boy
Well said, learn from actually doing mistake
love the older guys acting like they never had to learn anything and have always had the skills they have. teach the young ones so your industry doesn’t die when all you die 😂
*edit : to everyone simply talkin about their experiences thank you. To all you mf’s who think your mindset is the only correct mindset, gtfo you’re either too old or just plain n simple ignorant.
I haven't seen one of those comments yet. Seems like everyone agrees that the guy recording needs to be let go. I agree with you. Everyone makes mistakes when they first start out.
@@richhoops2413 definitely, but the dude recording is probably one of the older guys, or at least not a new guy as well.
@@jacobbarton6689 No doubt. That's one of the many reasons he needs to go. Can't afford to have that liability around.
Context matters. Hard to say if anyone with authority was present to stop the operator who could have been refusing to stop willingly.
@@benargee i meaaaan if he qualified enough to know the dude boutta fuck up he coulda helped, but you are right.
Gotta love how the older generations criticize the youngins while not attempting to help them in the least
Not White !!!😀😀😀
@@pietersteenekamp2281 not it’s Bc they’re tired of idiots lying on applications for skilled trades and then putting their life and others in danger.
@@MadNlGER They could prevent people “putting their life and others in danger” by helping the kid out and getting the equipment out safely.
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For example; If somebody is new to doing brakes on a vehicle, you don’t let them do it wrong and then speak up when the vehicle crashes and injured or kills someone. You help them do it right the first time to prevent incidents.
Maybe the operator had a big ego
@@MadNlGER only way to get in... you think in todays world where they have some HR person who doesn't know anything about the work just list a superhero level list for a entry level position...
Bucket on the ground and walk it back . He had the right idea to begin with
yes but doesn’t the tracks have to be straight
No real operators would of put the bucket on the left side and sway it over L plater
Somewhere there's a supervisor who is at fault for this. And the guy just sitting there filming is despicable.
Ppl love to watch others fail. Pulls out the camera instead of offering pointers.
The only reason that never happened to me when I was breaking in was that more experienced men stopped me when I was doing wrong and taught me what to do instead of watching me fuck up.
Mabey he is like the 20 year old i work with that already knows everything and doesnt listen.
Do we know if he tried that? No. Maybe he tried that but the operater rejected the help? You cannot fix stupid after all.
Or if he was experienced like he said he wouldn't be in this mess lol
@@driftingmusic661
He's a noob. There is no doubt about that.
I love how they let him destroy expansive machinery just to prove a point
Why
That machinery was so expansive.
How could it fall in the whole ?
@@joemomma1608 are you joking? That excavator must weigh a shit ton it didn't just fall in the weight made its own hole
@@joemomma1608 lolz.
..."hole" though.
@@jhtsurvival he wrote expansive not expensive
Play on words joke
I've been doing this for 37 years, and any real foreman knows that their job is to direct, teach, mentor, and motivate their crew. It's fine to punk or prank new employees. It's a part of the learning process in construction. Too many "foremans" try to punk the younger generation in situations like this. Instead of sitting there being a smart ass trying to f*ck the new guy who is a kid with obvious no experience, he should have had him demonstrate the functions of the excavator beforehand, which would have forced the kid to be a little more honest with ability and the foreman could have trained him from there.
19yrs old pipeline operator? Whoever hired him holds a lot of the blame!
It’s a joke you nitwit.
So pro tip is this: when you see a 19 yo about to kill him self , you dont go and stop him , you just sit there and wait 🤔.
We all been there at least once. Get stuck , panic , and start making mistakes. Lucky me that my coworkers weren't like this guy
Shit happened to me... I was sliding down a log road in a skidsteer my second day on the job because the guy before me put the throttle lock on and keep in mind this is my second day so i barely knew the thing and I got going too fast down the hill and rolled it off the hill. I get back to the site ready to lose my job and the guys standing there where like "man we seen you having a hell of a time but we knew you would figure it out" well i didn't... I didn't even ask about the 2 days pay I just left.
@@thecommenter6839 I was using excavators way back in the 60s. Did no one think to give you an operator's manual before even getting aboard? That is the first thing I always asked for. If one wasn't available I wouldn't operate the machine.
@@lordfrazerirwin990 Nope. It was 1999 i just turned 17 and got offered a job at $15/hr 8 hours a day and i didn't hesitate. One of the other experienced guys showed me the controls and everything I had to do and the first day was perfect everything went fine but the second day the same guy was driving the skid steer before me and I didn't know a throttle position lock existed in machines... It was set half throttle and up on the flat that's fine we where full throttle everywhere in those slow machines but when I went down the hill I didn't know how to slow it down so I shut it off and down the side we slid😒. I later heard that they pulled it back up and the swing door broke and the forks bent so I might have been ok with an ass chewing but the embarrassment wasn't worth going back. And to top it off the other guys saw me having issues all day with the forks going too fast because the throttle was too high and they said "i
would figure it out eventually". Glad I'm past that shit.
He's not gonna die in that tipover, but you might die if you run up to it trying to get his attention when he's gonna fall.
@@JohnSmith-fq3rg clearly you've never rolled a machine before. No airbags there to save your egg from being scrambled.
Let me change the title for you:
“Foreman Afraid to Be Replaced In Future Lets Greenie Lay Owner’s Machine On It’s Side”
Exactly
100% correct
Nailed it.
This proves that nationalities don’t exist. Same human mind on every continent. Lowlifes everywhere.
I'm a lineman and I get out of the truck to help my groundman back up. Because I can see more from behind the bucket truck. Guess who can see more from the ground, when I'm in the bucket?
Be the leader you'd want to follow. The guy with the camera would be packing his stuff, if this was my crew.
You scratch my back and I'll scratch your's. Talk about me behind my back and we be seeing you.
So, rather than stop him using your horn, waving your bucket, etc. you not only chose to watch, but you potentially could have watched someone die. You’re the guy no one wants around.
He didnt stop him because knowing when to get out of the machine is the most valuable lesson.
“I saw that coming” guy should be fired on the spot. Putting that kids, and people around his lives in danger. If I was on that site and heard that I woulda been fired that day too for beating someone with a pipe wrench...
Lmao what if he already tried to tell him and the kid refused to listen. So his damn fault.
@@caddiman1990 I was thinking the same thing! Guy probably already offered his assistance and the kid refused, insisting that he knew best. So the guy did the next best thing and filmed the mishap 😂
Yeah it's his fault the operator's fuckin stupid
I was just getting ready to comment the same thing read yours just agreed with it
You wouldn't do shit, STFU
“Saw that comin” but I’d rather cost the company money and risk this kid potentially hurting himself for the enjoyment of a video-
For sure. Easy to spot. Why did they not stop him when his crawlers were no where near at a right angle to the trench?
The Final Frontier To get him fired
Yup thats people instead of step in and encourage n give advice videO n gloat when people fail thats not gonna make anything better verry low quality human being here least the kid is tryin
IKR!!!
Gives no hope for the young boys to become Men of character but rather to be characters.
I worked construction this how they roll it's pretty much a fuck you attitude figure it out for yourself....not for me man ...I quit 26/hr seasonal job in Ohio and moved back to ga...best decision I coulda made 8 years ago now making just as much and I'll be at 100k next year driving truck for a top grocery chain in the south
I don't think 19 year olds are referring to their occupation when saying they're a "pipeline operator."
Buddy felt the machine tipping to the left and decided to swing all the weight over to that side. Nice
“I saw that coming”
If I was that boss you would be fired. Why not get out and help the kid. No, film it and laugh with him. You must be the best teammate!
Right!!! What happened to being your brothers keeper??? Looking out for each other! This guys a joke. Looks like I have my topic for our next safety meeting. LOL.
Yeah because now it's everybody's problem, boiled my blood when he said saw that coming
He was too busy making tik tok
The guy filming most likely did not hired that kid and did not put him on that machine
Yeah spams we need a healer kinda guy.
That was such an easy recovery if the dude would've just stepped in and teach him a good lesson. The guy who simply dont give a f about anything or anyone but themselves are always the most dangerous ones. Not the ignorant.
How do you know the guy film is not a labor who was already told to mind his business 🤔
@@chuckbailey6835 I’ve been looking for this exact reply. Of course the CZcams experts all want to bash the dude that said “could’ve seen” but none of them know how to think outside the box of; what if management made the decision to put the kid there then told the others to shut up and let him go.....nobody seems to think of that scenario...
@@thesouthernpatriot24 bc all the yrs ive been in construction/logging. Ive never ever seen management say “leave him alone do not help him” if i see a kid fucking up 9 times out of 10 im stepping in to make sure he doesnt die
@@thesouthernpatriot24 Because your "what if" scenario is just fantasy not reality. That's not how things work.
@@z0ffi928 so in all your years you never came across an arrogant Punk that thinks he knows every thing and wont listen to a guy thats been doing it longer then he's been alive and the only reason he has the job is because the owner is his uncle or some other relative?
If he went around counter clockwise, he would of survive the shame.
No shame in having a crack. Shame in just watching and not helping.
ive seen 19 year old know -it-alls that would have been insulted if you tried to help!
Dude swung the bucket in the exact opposite direction he needed to swing it. He needed to swing it left and push down on the ground to prevent it from falling back.
“i saw that comin” yet you did nothing.good job!
he doesnt realize its a self burn, and that makes it an even bigger slef burn
@@asura8495 yes. He did not see it coming.
@Sky_Lake who said anything about approaching the machine?
Keep a safe distance and make yourself noticed.
@Sky_Lake what?
Yeah. Because walking up to someone erratically using heavy machinery would be a great idea.
Typical of the guy who wants the job but never stood up, happy to see others struggle
Random older guy- “Kids don’t learn or can’t do anything these days!!”
Older guy when he has a chance to teach the younger generation- “…………. I saw that coming…….”
The fuck are you gonna teach from this? Don't be a dull twat? Lol
Maybe he shouldn’t say he’s an operator if he’s not an operator. How’s that for a start.
If he’s a licensed operator you let them operate. If you were to come around my cab while I’m in a situation like this to break my concentration you’re ganna get your ass chewed. I might not be pipeline but I’m crane and rigging. Stay out of my envelope while I’m operating or get fucked up by me and my entire crew.
Older guy when HE was young;
"Someone please help me!!!"
@@mrmidnight32
As an ironworker I'll "come into your envelope" and you better move that crane EXACTLY how I tell you to move it or it'll be me and MY crew who's fuckin someone up.
@@dukecraig2402 🤦♂️ you’d be part of the crane crew if you’re rigging it dumb ass.
The fact you thought you came in to disagree but with out realizing you completely just proved my point exactly 😂
"Mr. George, this operator no good!"
This is what happens when you lie about your experience. This kid was far from being an operator.
“Saw that coming” Someone get this guy off the site. The younger guys will get so much farther as operators if you just give them a couple tips and help.
This is what construction is full of these types of "BTO's" Big time operators
Some people don't take advice, they already know it all. We can't say/know what the deal was here. Don't know whether he was getting off the ditch or back on it. Either way, I have worked alot of jobs where someone would rather watch you sink as they had help you swim. Most of the time its because they're scared you're after their job. So you look bad, they look better.
He's the one that applied for an excavator job and told the boss he could operate..,..that's the problem these days....all you have to do is get it started and move the control leavers for the trainer and apparently that makes you an operator
@@johnnydavies1970 I used to work in a sand/ledge mining operation and the amount of "operators" That came in to apply was tremendous. Theyd hop in to the loader dig a hole while scooping from a pile and get 1/4 filled buckets. "i've been doing it for 15 years though" no, no way in hell cya
@@2147B the dig a hole while scooping from the pile guys are the ones that think they gotta bump the truck every time they load one.
It can happen to a veteran operator. Been doing it most my life. Everyone and anyone who operates equipment long enough will mess up
That's what I tell everyone. Every year you are probably going to mess up at least once. Just hope it's not a big mess up and no one gets hurt.
Been running hoes most my life... I've seen some shit. The guy that taught me 27 years ago has rolled 2. He's still better then me.
Yep been there done that...
Would something like that actually damage that vehicle?
Hope not me, I own mine and gotta pay for it lol.
Welcome to your new position laborer 😂😂😂
Yeah he wanted buddy outta there from day one😂
"saw that coming". I'm sure safety is everyones responsibility.
Yeah I'm really serious about safety. And I know how that operator feels. He was probably waiting for someone to help him. The way he was moving the equipment around tells you he was making uncertain adjustments to get someone's help
@@poorpuppy Me too. I've been in scary situations, enough that I've learned to help someone who may be struggling....or near death.
I'd probably fire the guy recording if I was the boss here.
You don't let a kid who obviously has no idea what he's doing operate machines and then just stand there and film him wrecking it.
You don’t let someone get in deep and then watch them destroy equipment and the job site. As a leader the leader is supposed to step in and do some damage control. Save the trench, the excavator and the kids life. Breaking glass is one thing but letting someone lay an excavator over is another. I hope OSHA sees this. They’ll investigate to see if the guy recording had an OSHA safety card. They’ll revoke it and probably write him a personal fine for allowing a dangerous situation to continue.
Hardly wrecked. Just stuck.
Especially the fact that looks like a damn near brand new machine. Kid just cost 3 paychecks in damage to the machine, hours to dig him out, and the new pants he now needs to buy before they send his ass home
Not to mention wrecking a 400k + machine!
Definitely, he would get sacked.
You see it, you own it.
I’ve been out of school since 2011 and working in the pipeline industry since… I’m so thrilled by the comments on this video. I broke out with old timers that would never of allowed someone to make a fuck up like that they would have used it as a teaching moment.
As a young operator i love it when guys go up to me telling me what i am doing wrong. And when I am doing something i never really done before. You'd be surprised the amount of times i get of the machine just to see what is really going on
Some guys won't get out for embarrassment that they'll be seen as clearly being new and having little clue.
But after something like this happens you learn better safe than sorry. I think.
We have no context to this video...
What if buddy filming offered advice or help and 19 yr old thought he knew everything.... seen that before
@@AH-lw2bj then kick em off the job 😂😂
That mindset and accountability will take you places, i'm sure you already know! 👍
“Hey, track forward with the left side.”
- No embarassment.
- No safety roundtable.
- No equipment damage.
- First superintendent that ever did something useful.
Doesn't have to be complicated. Only professional and respectful.
Right, instead of videoing it, do something to thwart it.
The guy is an asshole. But track forward would not have worked without breaking the pipeline. Honestly it is a situation that was not that salvageable once he was in it. But he could have tried
@@ThatSB Bucket to the left, use it to balance and rotate tracks left back, right forward?
Could have left the bucket where it was and track forward on the left and rewind on the right and would have squared up
A traditional way of gaining experience, no harm no foul.
You have a radio to communicate with each other.
If my boss heard that you "Saw it coming" the both of you would be in deep shit.
Great teamwork here...
“Saw that comin”… Yet decided to say and do nothing. That would in fact imply, you did not “see that comin”, and you are just as incompetent as the operator 👍🏻
lmao and what exactly was he supposed to do?
@@steviechampagne was this a serious question?
@@uselessinformation1702 sometimes you have to let a man learn the hard way. guarantee you that kid won’t ever make that mistake again.
nanny culture is how you get a sick society like we have today.
@@steviechampagne i guess as long as you dont have to pick up the damage tab its fine.. Kid learned a lesson, company owner lost a few grand... Who cares.
@@steviechampagne fucking help him out. What are people like you doing on the job site if youre not going to help out.
A friend from high school once told a construction foreman he could drive the water truck, which he couldn't.
After talking someone into teaching him - 20 years later he is now the foreman planning and implementing soil movement before freeways are built.
But if some chump just sat there and recorded a video of him failing to drive a water truck the outcome would have been different.
It is a new world we live in and the trades are going down hill to where - like the police - nobody will volunteer to take the open positions if this lack of empathy mess keeps up.
PREACH!
You are 100% right. Teach the new operator don’t try to smear him so you look better.
Facts. I’m a 21 year old lube tech and can almost make a living off changing oil. Nobody in my generation wants to get dirty. Paying off debt till I’m 30 or 40 isn’t for me
Well said hombre
I mean simple physics said this was gonna happen. If you can't figure that out you shouldn't be in that job.
Shame on the guy for sitting there and filming it instead of stopping the clearly inexperienced operator.
He is not only no pipeline operator, he's no operator.
“I saw that coming”
I’d fire him too Not helping that kid and just watched him
Mess up parts on a heavy equipment, ain’t gonna be cheap
@Caper Guy because machine operators don't have radios for exactly that reason or anything.
Nothings messed up. The fee of 2 75 ton rotators to lift it out is not gunna be cheap💀
@Caper Guy okay kid? That's all you got? Truth Hurts, don't it? Even if they didn't have radios to communicate. He could have gotten out, waved him down, and proceeded to help him get out of the situation. You're an idiot.
@Caper Guy they have coms…
No I’d fire who ever hired him
The really sad part is the man that sat there and watched him do it instead of stopping him and getting him off the machine before he tore it up or hurt somebody or himself
That's why they should fire the camera man and train the young guy.
He filmed it so you could share your thoughts on youtube 😃
The machine is fine, just stuck now
@@Sausketo Prove it
@mike todd
2 checks. Wait owners son!😂😂
If that was a contest of who’s more incompetent, the guy taking the video wins flawlessly
This is why I always help my kids when they are having a difficult time with their task. I teach them the proper way and show them how they can improve. This guy is just an asshole, but I’ve worked in construction and it’s typically every man for himself unless you have a good foreman or super intendant
Yup its been like that for me too, every man for himself, they don't want the young new guy with potential to rise up out of fear of them getting replaced, Ive seen alot of that
My dad taught me waaayyyy different lol. If he was teaching me to run a bobcat, front end loader, dump truck, semi, or any other equipment we had on our farm he’d let me get into situations like this. Saying the same shit these guys are saying, “hey watch what Riley’s about to do.” And if I got myself stuck he’d let me get myself out, if something broke in the process he’d teach me how to fix it then make my ass get the damn thing out. He started doing this with me at like 10. I’m 25 now and way better for it. I think the kid running that excavator learn a lot from that, and he most likely won’t do that again and if he does he’ll have a better chance of getting out.
@@rileyhooper7911 as long as the lesson was learned then us parents have succeeded in our job 🤘🏽 glad your father was a influence to help you become a better man, worker, and human. Too many dead beat mothers and fathers these days, cheers!
Depends how expensive the mistake is. Ain’t no substitute for fucking up and learning from it, so if it’s not a super expensive mistake, then so what?
That said, I don’t know how expensive this was.
@@rileyhooper7911 your father is a wise man, and good to see you appreciating the growth from those tough learning lessons! Failure brings success in so many ways.
If he "saw that coming", why not offer to spot or guide the operator? Even if we were to assume he's 19 and determined to prove himself, he's still not doing it right.
Being an excavator operator myself, I know how easily that can happen.
Good thing is it's easy to pull it out if you know how to truly operate it huh?
@@tonysmith2847 looks like the machinery was damaged during the fall though
And the guy filming was making a delivery and knows nothing about operating that heavy machinery. So why would he go tell someone what to do when he knows nothing about it?
The recorder was probably selfish and was just looking for entertainment.
He could've been a mentor and correct the young man, instead of just watching him fail.
It's sad that our humanity is dwindling, where did our compassion go?
I’ve operated for awhile byt never went over trenches like this. Was the mistake that he swung right instead of left to triangulate it better or was his whole position off?
You saw that coming and just watched, didn't scream for him to stop or anything🤣
“I saw it coming” and did nothing.?? The most helped I’ve ever felt is being stopped by someone before I did something stupid.
The guy recording the video says I saw that coming. Then why didn’t you stop him and give some advice or do it yourself?
JBS Services LLC Bc it’s beau he wants views
What a dumb ass. Setting him up for failure
You got to learn from your mistakes
Ranger bullshit The only person in this video that needs to learn from his mistake is the guy recording the video I don’t care who you are what you are who you think you are you don’t let a guy put a machine like that on its side the guy recording the film needs to be fired
Exactly
And so you give him a brand new cat?
Should be more than one guy leaving the site.
Agreed, it wasn't really that dangerous.. young bloke learnt, he had a laugh while the young bloke revised his digger course while hand shovelling the ditch he destroyed
"Hello, Mr.George!"
The camera man waiting for his turn in the excavator
"When someone takes a 19 year old's word and gives him heavy machinery."
Lol so true
*as they "see it coming"*
That operator was bullshit but his supervisor wasn't any better ...
I operate heavy equipment and work in the construction industry, and there is a serious problem among men in this line of work when it comes to being an example for the younger guys. Everyone is quick to talk shit about others, discredit/knock their work, or simply just watch them fail instead of being a leader or role model for others to imitate.
Lot of big egos out there
Ya where I'm from they fired the whole spread over safety issues
Exactly right. The Pipeline is a harsh world I did it for almost 10 years.
Say that one again bro.
@@bbarnettrealtor lol meant to say imitate. Spell check bastards
Sarcasm* - Yeah I’d much rather watch a 19 year old risk getting into a freak accident than to alert my coworkers! I’m totally in the right!
What I love is how many people seem to think that you'll just magically gather knowledge with age with 0 instruction, or fuck ups. Reinvent the wheel without scraping an inch of wood.
That’s why I always buy shitty old stuff lol
Yeah its true.
But it is always funny watching people fuck up.
Like those funny home videos of old.
Thats why everyone loves me.
That's how I learned to weld pipe😂 fuck it up and don't do the next time😂 but then fuck something different up
The wheel was stone.. j.s.
Fuck ups are fine, but people assisting is better. I'd rather someone nudge me along over watch me faceplant. And I'd rather assist over gawk too.
Lots of experienced operators out there probably applied for that job, truth is that the greenhorn young lad got hired for $15 and the experienced guy wanted $30. This is on the company.
Fifteen. Lsborers first day who don't know the difference between a broom or shovel get 25 where we live
@@davidfitzgerald3653 damn what state?
@@purecash2574 probably a government contractor so it applies to any state. Road crews can make anywhere from $10 to $50 an hour working for the same company simply based on who the contract is with. Private jobs vary greatly so no point trying to place them, but as far as government contracts county pays the least, then state, and federal contracts pay the most because of wage laws associated with government contracts.
He said greenhorn I love it 🤣🤣🤣
@@jaydunbar7538 depends on the career too. If you’re a road crew spraying polyurethane on a bridge, you’re making 20 just for travel to the job. 30+ an hour to do the job. Ive been on jobs with completely handicapped people making 25 an hour. If you wanna make big money, work government roads.
“ I saw that coming”
Translation: I saw someone was putting themselves and other people at risk. While at the same time damaging a 400,000$ piece of equipment…and did nothing
The guy who said "I saw it coming." was the 19 year old.
All it took was for the guy watching to say “STOP” and explain to the kid what he did wrong and how to get out of the situation without wrecking anything
Guy who saw it coming, probably has no clue either... saw what was happening, but wouldn't know how to do it properly himself
Poor kid was probably a sweaty mess. Shame on you Mr. "Saw that comin'.".
“Poor kid” is probably one of those “yeah I know” guys.
@@acog_quarks8753 possibly 🤷🏾
@@acog_quarks8753 lol yeah that guy definitely doesn’t like him. I would say he’s one of the arrogant I’m the best there is hoe hands lol
Know your limits and shit like this won't happen
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Delete your account
Why tear down a kid’s confidence? What kind of person does that?
That could have easily been avoided if you saw that coming
Wow, imagine just stamding there filming it instead of trying to help him get out of a sticky situation .....
The person filming this is the kind of person who would watch a non swimmer drown
Hard to educate stupidity
@@T.M.... yet so easy for you to make assumptions. go figure you'd be on the wrong side, and back your wrong-side-argument up with an assumption. you proved the point lmao
@@MayorZach you clearly know nothing about construction site safety protocols. But let me school your dense intelligence.
A "Safety Work Method Statement" is mandatory for all workers to complete prior to undertaking any high risk work.
Which means providing a backhoe/loader licence in this scenario. Also the operator and or site manager should of had a spotter whilst this excavation work was being undertaken.
Clearly many boxes were not ticked prior to this work.
Therefore my original comment still stands corrected.
But judging by your mentality, you would be the dunce to jump into an excavator and start work without following any safety measures.
Congratulations on receiving a Darwin award.
He wasn't standing. He was sitting in his piece of equipment 🤦🏼♂️
@@T.M.... I hold no responsibility towards your inability to formulate a simple statement to convey your point. Your initial response said "can't fix stupid" which has merit. But without knowing who you're calling the dumb one, you're not making a solid enough statement for anyone outside of construction occupations to even figure out who you were calling dumb. But let's expand on dumb. The Darwin award is only given to dead people. Congrats. You're familiar with the word dense just like you're familiar with the words "hard to work with", because after enough times telling a moron something he'll finally internalize it.
Yeah man just let the dude fail and don’t give him advice on what to do, perfect leadership skills
Who said he's a leader. You have no clue who this guy's was but yet you wanna pretend you know. What a clown
Don’t ever be afraid to mess up , just make sure you learn from it
Haha it's funny that the boss believed him😂
As an operator, watching this video made me want to offer this kid some advice. Guy recording needs to be fired.
Nailed it
Well if the kid was talking shit that puts a different spin on it though
Ah, the classic teach by waiting until something is done wrong (usually with some yelling etc).
That's a baseless assumption, you may be right but the young operator may have told the old guy on sight to F off when he offered advice 5 minutes ago as well. Fact is we simply don't know so any judgment is based on baseless assumptions.
@@jaydunbar7538 it doesn’t matter. If the “boss” stands back and says “saw that coming” it’s HIS ass. Not the rookie. Dumbfuck should not be running a job if he does shit like this.
Truth is, that kid should not be in that machine. If he cannot overcome a simple obstacle like that he damned sure don't need to be operating that machine with workers in the hole or within reach. Bunch of bleeding hearts! Probably the bosses little boy anyway. The man videoing this did the right thing. He stood clear and safe
@@johnwiz4460 how do you know that was the boss tbough lol
If you've ever been a parent some kids got to learn this way 🤷
Ain’t no way he’s that simple headed. 😂 Jesus
As an operator myself my motto has always been You can learn something new every day on a piece of equipment as long as you don't already think you know it all. I enjoy helping new comers learn on the machines. I know a lot of dicks that like to see them fail too though. They're the ones that need to be sent packin. They're dangerous.
Babe ruth is always regarded as the greatest baseball player that ever lived. He's also the guy that once held the record for most strike outs. Even pros make mistakes
Damn that hit me man, thanks.
Or as I call it, a Guiness business opportunity
Now that's some inspiration right there
"Even pros make mistakes"
I would change this line to "The pros are pros because they are the ones who dare to take risks and make lot of mistakes, therefore they become the best of the pros"
Strikeouts are not mistakes. Failed attempts maybe, but mistake? Being afraid to swing might be closer to a mistake . Not sure.
“Saw that coming” = could have stopped that happening.
That’s why they have the “Stop work authority”
Help the kid and teach him man !!!!! Everyone has to start somewhere .
Pro tip, the Caterpillar logo actually tells you which way up is supposed to be. If it points to the ground, don't unbuckle your seatbelt.
When someone believe a 19 years old is a pipeline operator
“Saw that coming…” and neglected to say or do anything. Smh 🤦🏻♂️
Well I’m glad that I’m retired , these so called journeyman should be helping a young guy out, I trained many apprentices by putting with the best man on my crew or with myself, someone took time to show me 50 years ago to make me a good craftsman, just letting young workers make mistakes and possibly be injured or killed or damaging equipment is just ignorance at its finest
sometimes a hard lesson drives it home better. I've seen many cocky apprentices think they're hot stuff and don't take advice nor respect their seniors only to land on their bottoms.
the door opens both ways. not every blame should land on veterans especially when the younger generation we are getting are total know it all slackers
@@lordjaashin your are right it is harder now days but cocky or not I always stopped them for safety’s sake and I would go tell the super if they don’t listen to me , they don’t work for me. If young people would get into the trades , you can make excellent money and work your way up and be a journeyman in a few years and have a good job and retirement, college is not fr everyone
@@lordjaashin underrated comment right here… some youngins just don’t want to listen.
@@lordjaashin Yeah, we should give them a hard lesson. Don't mind the fact that a $200,000 piece of equipment is being damaged along the way! /s
@@specialopsdave do you forget that government arms 18 year olds and send them in war? 19 year old is adult enough to know to not fool around but they rarely listen to their elders. the video clearly shows that the punk was warned beforehand not to fool around the heavy machinery but alas he went down like icarus.