Everything Wrong With Indie Animation Vs. Disney

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  • čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
  • This is the first video I made with Davinci Resolve 18.6. This is also my first commentary video I guess.
    Shoutout to Skop (My brother) for guest-starring here: ‪@SuperStarLucas‬
    Note: For those who are getting slight deja vu, I made a filler video about this subject 3 months ago. I decided to make a full video exploring it.
    The unlisted filler video: • Should We Bring Up Dis...
    Main Videos (DO NOT SEND HATE TO THE CREATORS):
    Jahni: • How Indie Animation Is...
    Camille's Harem: • How Glitch DESTROYED D...
    Another one by Camille's Harem: • Glitch Keeps Winning!
    Lalo: • How INDIE Animation is...
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    2:51 What's Wrong?
    11:01 What WBD has done (And RT)
    18:48 Other Studios
    20:43 Outro
    Credits (I recommend reading it for bonus content that I didn't have enough time to add to the video):
    docs.google.com/document/d/1h...
  • Krátké a kreslené filmy

Komentáře • 314

  • @TubbybloxianYouTube
    @TubbybloxianYouTube  Před 21 dnem +6

    I'M DOING A THUMBNAIL TEST FOR THIS VIDEO.
    CREDITS FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DESCRIPTION (I recommend reading because it has bonus content like the time RT manipulated someone!)
    docs.google.com/document/d/1hIN3NJxaee98TMrtGdbSA8BNZN_71Cp0CNfx_qJnZco/edit?usp=sharing

    • @albertoromero5075
      @albertoromero5075 Před 4 dny

      Screw You Tubby, you need to go to the Panderverse
      #thePanderverseisreal

  • @kootunesscrewy
    @kootunesscrewy Před 24 dny +215

    It kinda sucks how other indie cartoons, like Homestar Runner or Animatic Battle, don't got the same amount of love as Digital Circus or Helluva Boss.

    • @HellfireJerk
      @HellfireJerk Před 24 dny +21

      I agree
      Homestar Runner solos Digital Circus and Helluva Boss anyways.
      I meant the content btw not the views.

    • @DumpsterFire2763
      @DumpsterFire2763 Před 24 dny +13

      I fucking love Animatic Battle

    • @Comeonfhqwhgads95
      @Comeonfhqwhgads95 Před 24 dny +16

      I mean tbf Homestar used to be basically the MASCOT of flash animation. It probably could’ve been more popular in the modern day if it was more consistent

    • @jonathanclark2622
      @jonathanclark2622 Před 24 dny +7

      Yeah. Without Homestar Runner we would not have Hazbin hotel or digital circus. And Homestar is OLDER then those two

    • @Krusty_bot63
      @Krusty_bot63 Před 24 dny +1

      Basically every webcartoon

  • @reynellfreeman8761
    @reynellfreeman8761 Před 24 dny +66

    Ironicly if walt disney started today he be an
    Indie animator with mickey mouse

    • @CherryFizzFIame
      @CherryFizzFIame Před 22 dny +7

      exactly lol he legit left universal (big company then and now) which ended up costing him oswald

    • @SG-BLAST
      @SG-BLAST Před 20 dny +1

      With Ub Iwerks

    • @CherryFizzFIame
      @CherryFizzFIame Před 19 dny +1

      @@SG-BLAST YE

    • @of1564
      @of1564 Před 18 dny

      He'd be cancelled for plagiarising the characters of his piers, abusing the hell out of them and being an antisemitic zionists, supporting Shapiro.

    • @albertoromero5075
      @albertoromero5075 Před 4 dny +1

      if walt disney started today, he will have a heart attack on how terrible the world is today
      *JOKE ON YOU THAT I MADE ONE BETTER!*

  • @cookiezcartoons3587
    @cookiezcartoons3587 Před 24 dny +111

    Ngl I always found it weird how people were out here comparing TADC to literal Disney

    • @SleepyLuigi
      @SleepyLuigi Před 23 dny +1

      Yeah.

    • @ItsMovie_Sonic1
      @ItsMovie_Sonic1 Před 23 dny +5

      I mean, it's good and all, but it just seems like it's for money, ngl

    • @jonathanwade3882
      @jonathanwade3882 Před 23 dny +21

      Them: Indie animation desTROYED disney/pixar
      Inside Out 2: haha, sorry come again? 💅

    • @ssesssusman9417
      @ssesssusman9417 Před 22 dny +6

      @@ItsMovie_Sonic1 Digital Circus was not planned to be this big.. 💀

    • @ssesssusman9417
      @ssesssusman9417 Před 22 dny +1

      @@jonathanwade3882 🤦

  • @pepsicannot
    @pepsicannot Před 24 dny +54

    Genuinely sucks how companies disregard animations by not only canceling but also removing them from platforms that no one is able to see.
    I’m often confused why Disney is brought up, like yeah they have don’t bad or terrible decisions. But any companies has that problem. Which is were some agreements that people say indi is the future.
    But given the context, indi is rising but not “the future” just a memo that says people want more original or at list diverse art. But they mostly use the popular ones as examples which didn’t help the argument.

    • @guyuser81
      @guyuser81 Před 12 dny

      I know this is 11 days old and this comment will be ignored, but it’s probably best because what I’m about to say is controversial. I think Indie Gaming has a better chance at high success than Indie Animation. When it comes to Indie Gaming, there are multiple counts of success, & all major players in the industry include them. When it comes to Indie Animation, only CZcams & Amazon Prime include them, & they’re not even owned by one of the five major Hollywood studios. Don’t hate me please, this is just my honest opinion.

  • @Pullman125
    @Pullman125 Před 21 dnem +24

    One thing I always hated about these _Indie Vs Disney_ vids is that they always completely ignore Warner Bros Discovery's massacre on animation.

    • @jkdjjj
      @jkdjjj Před 16 dny

      No they massacred the live action stuff. they massacred everything

    • @Pullman125
      @Pullman125 Před 16 dny +2

      @@jkdjjj at least Disney doesn’t cancel things for tax write off. They’re just going through a creative rut right now. They just need another hit to make a comeback.

    • @jkdjjj
      @jkdjjj Před 16 dny +4

      @@Pullman125 No they laid off tons of their employees and are removing stuff from Disney+ to write it off for taxes.

    • @Pullman125
      @Pullman125 Před 16 dny +2

      @@jkdjjj Again, Disney is just going through a creative rut right now. They just need to have another hit to make a comeback. All companies whenever, gaming or animation, go through ruts. It’s inevitable, but that doesn’t mean they can’t make a comeback.

    • @jkdjjj
      @jkdjjj Před 16 dny +3

      @@Pullman125 same for wb then

  • @klas-6
    @klas-6 Před 22 dny +27

    I like that this wasn't really an argument about if their criticisms were wrong but rather about selective attention. Speaking of, love that you acknowledged AVA, eddsworld, asdfmovie and etc as worthy indie animation too. Tbf, anything animated and continuing is basically indie animation. Its just independent animation lol. TADC and Lackadaisy and hazbin only get focused more cos they look like serialised tv shows from the 2000s or early 2010s. But cartoons dont need to look like CN or Disney Channel to be cartoons, else what'll be the point of saying they beaten Disney or other companies
    (Again, Alan Becker literally is doing high quality vids with stickfigures, way before the "I have Michael as a VA" indie cartoons)

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 9 dny +3

      @@klas-6 Alex animations are goated and I like the storyline he’s trying to set up.

    • @klas-6
      @klas-6 Před 9 dny +1

      @@andrewharris1344 Alex?

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 9 dny +1

      @@klas-6 I mean Alan

    • @klas-6
      @klas-6 Před 9 dny +2

      @@andrewharris1344 lol yh they're amazing. Even tho he gets millions of views,I still feel like he should be associated with popular indie animation . (Also Alan Becker Vs Alex Banner, his evil doppelganger)

  • @ooaktree
    @ooaktree Před 24 dny +177

    i wish more of these indie animation video went down the rabbit hole of object shows, in which its full of creative people that might make their own indie animation shows (that AREN'T like dream island too even!)

    • @helpfulplaylists3933
      @helpfulplaylists3933 Před 24 dny +21

      Object shows are a niche genre of animation so if people talk about Object shows in a video like this majority of people are not going to know what that is and would only have people that have been in the Object show community.

    • @ooaktree
      @ooaktree Před 24 dny +10

      @@helpfulplaylists3933 i mean it in a way of "down the rabbit hole" type of video, like explaining everything about it... because it is a huge rabbithole

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy Před 24 dny +22

      To tell y'all the truth... in recent years, object shows have gotten the same level of moderate popularity as Pencilmation, Homestar Runner, Bugbo, asdfmovie, The Music Freaks and that Mugman cartoon.
      Even if these animated shows did have a impact and still have a bunch load of fans, they sadly been overshadowed by Helluva Boss, GLITCH and Lackadaisy in the animation community.
      (I'll admit tho... that really sucks. Because I love Animatic Battle, It's Time For The and, the OG object show, BFDI, as well as most of the others I mentioned.)

    • @TrademarkLover64
      @TrademarkLover64 Před 24 dny +6

      The people that made Inanimate Insanity actually also made this short indie cartoon called Uneven Evan that's honestly rlly underrated and I'd highly recommend checking it out. I hope Adam makes more episodes of it in the future! :D

    • @helpfulplaylists3933
      @helpfulplaylists3933 Před 24 dny

      @TrademarkLover64 Oh that's cool. I will definitely check that out. Also didn't expect to see you here.

  • @Mariofanaticanimations
    @Mariofanaticanimations Před 24 dny +39

    Same applies to CZcams for how they’re starting to disrespect animation for COPPA this system isn’t working, the animation guild has to strike at some point to also mention CZcams to stop “CZcams kids” and FTC needs to stop too

    • @TheGeneratedNarukami06
      @TheGeneratedNarukami06 Před 22 dny

      Yeah, especially that COPPA should've be repealed or simply replaced with an liberal version of COPPA!

  • @SilverScribe85
    @SilverScribe85 Před 24 dny +40

    My only concern with RoosterTeeth's shutdown is the fate of Death Battle and what will happen to the crew of Achievement Hunter

  • @SilverScribe85
    @SilverScribe85 Před 24 dny +38

    Of all the Indie Animations you mention, I recommend adding Dungeon Flippers to the list as well.
    I watched the pilot just the other day and now, I'm hungry for more content from their channel

  • @mlgodzilla4206
    @mlgodzilla4206 Před 22 dny +11

    I think people who like indie animation don’t realize that the most popular ones aren’t the most grassroots kind and aren’t that different from Disney. To me, indie animation is those short videos you find on CZcams that some rando animated for no reason other than the fact they wanted to.

  • @andrewharris1344
    @andrewharris1344 Před 18 dny +6

    9:18 thank you for mentioning Wander over yonder that was genuinely an underrated show that came out at a bad time. Another show was Mao Mao from Cartoon Network that also got cut at season 2 when the plot was just starting to kick off.

    • @littlefox_100
      @littlefox_100 Před 7 dny +2

      Woy is one of my favorites.

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 7 dny +2

      @@littlefox_100same sad it got lost in the shuffle trying to compete with Gravity falls, Adventure Time, regular show, and etc.

  • @lightyearpig12
    @lightyearpig12 Před 24 dny +63

    Rooster Teeth was practically Glitch Productions before Glitch Productions, well, at least until they started flushing themselves down the toilet. TADC wishes it could leave the same mark on Internet culture as Red vs Blue and RWBY did.

    • @cantthinkofaname5046
      @cantthinkofaname5046 Před 24 dny +27

      well, we need to give new indie animation the chance to leave the impact before waxing about the goood old days. And looking at it now, it seems like that got a hell of a start

    • @ARStudios2000
      @ARStudios2000 Před 23 dny +9

      Oh it left its mark, all right, the mark of how fast content farms can show up for something's debut in one day

    • @Ihartwalrusguy
      @Ihartwalrusguy Před 21 dnem +3

      I’m pretty sure That RT lost all indie animation creed when they did all those Justice League x RWBY movies.
      You don’t see Glitch teaming up with WB to make the Joker goes to The Amazing Digital Circus.

    • @irkenpony17
      @irkenpony17 Před 12 dny +3

      @@Ihartwalrusguy Rooster teeth was 21 years old, and Glitch is 7 years old.
      It can still happen you never know. Every company or independent group has their Rocky starts, golden years, and desperate years.

  • @JaviSocas2My2ndChannel
    @JaviSocas2My2ndChannel Před 24 dny +12

    Warner Bros Discovery: "The stuff that Dreams are made of." More like "The stuff that dreams go to die."

  • @aboodsart
    @aboodsart Před 23 dny +9

    Only OGs know BFDI as one of the first “Indie” animation shows on CZcams

    • @stickfig1080p
      @stickfig1080p Před 23 dny +1

      BFDI FAN SPOTTED 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

    • @harrishromero6447
      @harrishromero6447 Před 19 dny +3

      Nahhhhhh eddsworld and other flash animation is MUCH more older

    • @Krusty_bot63
      @Krusty_bot63 Před 19 dny +1

      @@harrishromero6447 Homestar Runner too

  • @Dat_Guy-IsCool
    @Dat_Guy-IsCool Před 24 dny +30

    The thought that Skibidi Toilet is an indie show scares me for some reason.

    • @ItsMovie_Sonic1
      @ItsMovie_Sonic1 Před 23 dny

      =/

    • @capman69
      @capman69 Před 22 dny +1

      Personally, I wouldn't call skibidi toilet an indie show as in relating it to other indie shows as in digital circus or hellava boss

    • @capman69
      @capman69 Před 22 dny +2

      Personally, I wouldn't call skibidi toilet an indie show as in relating it to other indie shows as in digital circus or hellava boss
      Edit: No, I'm not saying skibidi toilet is bad I'm just saying that it doesn't really fall into the Category that digital circus hellvu boss is in tbh (I'm not ranging it by effort or goodness btw)

    • @ItsMovie_Sonic1
      @ItsMovie_Sonic1 Před 22 dny +1

      @@capman69 hmh I could disagree

    • @capman69
      @capman69 Před 22 dny

      @@ItsMovie_Sonic1 What do you mean?

  • @TheRealSuperKirby
    @TheRealSuperKirby Před 22 dny +5

    People didn't realize Disney can also release their stuff on youtube. The entire first season of gravity falls is on youtube for free now, and I suspect we'll only be seeing more now that they've caught on.

  • @cjanpiel
    @cjanpiel Před 24 dny +17

    Well, I don’t want the production of the wild robot movie be like Phil Lord and Chris Miller’s animated films…

  • @TheBritishCoin85034
    @TheBritishCoin85034 Před 23 dny +4

    Hearing BFB OST and you mentioning BFDI gave a good shiver down my spine. Thanks for mentioning the show!

  • @EddieCauseWhyNot
    @EddieCauseWhyNot Před 22 dny +6

    EDDSWOFLD MENTIONED LES GO 🗣️

  • @SeifTiam-kj2rx
    @SeifTiam-kj2rx Před 24 dny +11

    Basically a majority of the modern indie animation fandom is stupid, that make sense

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 7 dny +1

      I wouldn’t call it stupid just reactive and tend to overhype certain things. I like a lot of indie shows, but I’m tired of listening to reviewers.

  • @Zebra_fandomfella03
    @Zebra_fandomfella03 Před 23 dny +11

    The indie animation vs Disney stuff reminds me a lot of the animation studios war back in early 2023(aka last year)

    • @jonathanwade3882
      @jonathanwade3882 Před 23 dny +10

      Universal/Dreamworks vs Disney/Pixar? Yeup that was the main war at the time. And we can guess what certain movie started it all 😑

    • @Zebra_fandomfella03
      @Zebra_fandomfella03 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@jonathanwade3882 puss in boots the last wish

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 18 dny +2

      @@jonathanwade3882Yeah Puss in boots 2 was good, but turning it into a way to start a two sided culture war was unnecessary. What happened to just liking something and leaving it not everything needs a comparison to justify liking it. But drama bring views so what do I know.

    • @jonathanwade3882
      @jonathanwade3882 Před 18 dny +4

      @@andrewharris1344 These days its a trend to overhype whats popular

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 18 dny +1

      @@Zebra_fandomfella03 it’s crazy how fickle some reviewers can be that if some company makes one good thing it’s framed as the “next gold standard”. While completely ignoring the previous goods and bad of itself and its competitors. What’s wrong with just saying something is good and leave it there not everything good needs to be a cultural phenomenon. And just wait until the next hot thing comes out then that becomes the “Next gold standard”.

  • @codes5_real
    @codes5_real Před 24 dny +14

    You know I originally wanted to make my own animated series but now…..I don’t even wanna go near the animation community it’s too chaotic and I kinda lost passion, I think I’ll just stick to game development….

  • @JustA-Person
    @JustA-Person Před 20 dny +3

    Don’t forget Hugo’s Mind Palace

  • @SleepyLuigi
    @SleepyLuigi Před 23 dny +6

    Finally, someone who understands.

  • @stickfig1080p
    @stickfig1080p Před 23 dny +8

    4:32 BFDI FINALLY GETTING THE RECOGNITION IT DESERVES AS BEING AN INDIE ANIMATION WEB SERIES
    but seriously, thanks for mentioning BFDI

    • @SKIBIDITOILETISHAMAK
      @SKIBIDITOILETISHAMAK Před 21 dnem +2

      Skibidi toilet too

    • @stickfig1080p
      @stickfig1080p Před 21 dnem

      @@SKIBIDITOILETISHAMAK you’re joking right?

    • @SKIBIDITOILETISHAMAK
      @SKIBIDITOILETISHAMAK Před 20 dny +2

      ​​@@stickfig1080p Skibidi Toilet Is A Legendary Sci-fi Action War Dark Indie Animation Like Murder Drones With Great Animation And Good Writing The Series Follows The Brutal War Between Skibidi Toilets And Camera/Speaker/Tv Mans Blablabla No Spoiler Watch For Yourself It's Epic
      But The Fandom (Collective barinroot + Kids) And The Content Farm Ruined The Actuall Series reputation

    • @stickfig1080p
      @stickfig1080p Před 20 dny

      @@SKIBIDITOILETISHAMAK 💀💀💀

  • @user-he4ir3wj3l
    @user-he4ir3wj3l Před 24 dny +55

    I swear. These CZcamsrs sound like man children when they talk about indie animation when they say “INDE ANIMATION HAS BURIED DISNEY !!!!!!” I wonder how they feel about that now after inside out 2 made a lot of money at the box office.💀

    • @dillonwright13
      @dillonwright13 Před 24 dny +9

      Let me tell ya something, with the amount of people who went to see Inside Out 2, I was hoping that scene with the animation desks would spark some kind of curiosity in people about how classic hand drawn animation was done, but instead, not only did they not animate anything in that scene, it was more like storyboarding, they used the reality distortion lens like how people would use A.I. to turn doodles into art, and on top of everything, what looked like a pillow fight party in the trailers turned out to be the destruction of the studio, showing how much the people working on the film don’t respect hand drawn animation, as if it’s something to be ignored at best, to something to be destroyed at worst, just like Apple’s Crush ad.

    • @LightningAdrian
      @LightningAdrian Před 24 dny +5

      THANK YOU! Finally someone with similar views as me.

    • @dillonwright13
      @dillonwright13 Před 24 dny

      @@LightningAdrian I have plenty of animation videos on my channel if you’re interested.

    • @Iloveyou-dz7mq
      @Iloveyou-dz7mq Před 23 dny +7

      @@user-he4ir3wj3l it would've been better if they just said "indie animation is better than Disney" that would've been way better

    • @user-he4ir3wj3l
      @user-he4ir3wj3l Před 23 dny +1

      @@Iloveyou-dz7mq fr

  • @DanielGuzman-mm8ti
    @DanielGuzman-mm8ti Před 5 hodinami +1

    So Disney & Pixar's ORIGINAL Movies Animated Are failing making more Sequels but So are the RIVALS: DreamWorks Sony and Illumination, since their biggest Recent and Upcoming Animated films are still Sequels and Adaptations such as Kung Fu Panda 4, The Garfield Movie, Despicable Me 4, Super Mario Bros. Movie 2 and Beyond the Spider-Verse, also it's kind of ironic that Elemental still became the Highest-Grossing ORIGINAL animated film from ANY STUDIO Since Coco in 2017.

  • @nova_3000_
    @nova_3000_ Před 12 dny +3

    yall remember all the "Dreamworks and everthing else has better villains than Disney" trend from the beginnings of 2023? I think people find hating on big and rich companies/people something cool and different. And we all know what that big company is, Disney ofc. Amazing video btw

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 9 dny +1

      @@nova_3000_ honestly all these company vs company comparisons are getting tiring what happened to just liking something and leaving it. Or liking both equally.

  • @andrewharris1344
    @andrewharris1344 Před 18 dny +8

    I feel it’s mostly combination of fuck big corporations, and new toy syndrome. Where whenever a indie developer makes a game, show, etc it’s claimed as the greatest most flawless thing ever and so much better then whatever billion dollar company their comparing it to. Without realizing that those corporations work differently then a small dev team. I don’t hate Indie I like: hazbin, helluva, lackadaisy, Rwby, and find tadc okay, I also agree the bigger companies do need to put more creative effort in their live action and animated movies with more consistence . But let’s not say their destroying everything

    • @MagicSpectrum
      @MagicSpectrum Před 9 dny +2

      Took the words right out of my mouth. Other than the swearing. Hollywood is at its most vulnerable right now and the last thing it needs is more backlash. It's basically bullying or kicking someone when they're down.

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 9 dny +1

      @@MagicSpectrum i honestly wonder how people would judge shows like tadc to the inside out 2 movie. It kinda feels like they only go for the recent bad films but not the good ones. Like no one’s comparing indie to puss and boots 2 or spider verse.

  • @Onemanshowoff
    @Onemanshowoff Před 13 dny +2

    It sucks seeing people use indie animation as a stepping stone to just shit on bad media. I want to enjoy good art, I don't want to sit around shitting on things because being angry isn't fun. This video rules, man. Thanks for saying the shit I've been saying for a while yet you put it into words better than I can.
    And I love how you sped up everyone's voices to sound like Simon because they all really do sound like Melvins talking high and mighty over people just making good art. They don't care about art, they just wanna see the good popular thing destroy the bad popular thing and they wanna make money talking about the popular thing because content creator brainrot exists.

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 7 dny +1

      Yeah I’m tired of everything that gets popular being seen as destroying the big corporations. Why not just say you like it and leave it their. And hearing how some praise these shows as the “ New gold standard” or treat them like the second coming of Christ, sounds kinda pretentious to me.

  • @StripeTheSquid
    @StripeTheSquid Před 22 dny +3

    17:05 I haven’t seen anyone bring this up so I’m gonna do it. Off the top of my head, focusing on animation:
    MLM: Voltron, Kipo, Yuri On Ice, The Hollow, Helava Boss
    WLW: RWBY, Adventure Time, OK KO, Steven Universe, Owl House, Harley Quinn, Disenchantment, She Ra, Madoka, Kill La Kill, Camp Cretaceous, Bloom Into You, Korra, Hailey’s On It, In Love With the Villainess, Loud House
    Mix of both: Hazbin (Most have a mix, but this is the only one off the top of my head where it features major characters and is shown explicitly, unlike, say, OK KO where it’s easy to miss Boxman and Venomous’s relationship while Enid and Red Action’s is much more explicit)

  • @Miksy51
    @Miksy51 Před 24 dny +8

    I kinda like this! Especially with the example sped up. Funny helium! How hilarious, but yeah, perfect and flawful!
    Although, I like how you addressed the flaws

  • @GrumpyArthur
    @GrumpyArthur Před 24 dny +17

    There more indie stuff then hazbin hotel😐

  • @ashleyconklin7452
    @ashleyconklin7452 Před 24 dny +5

    out of all the ones ive seen talking about this
    this was the best one

  • @SKIBIDITOILETISHAMAK
    @SKIBIDITOILETISHAMAK Před 21 dnem +4

    It Hurt A Lot That Some Indie Animation Shows Always Get The Light Like The Amazing Digital Circus Hazbin Hotel Or Helluva Boss While Other Shows Like Skibidi toilet, BFDI, Inanimate Insanity, Your Favorite Martian, Salad Fingers, Or Meet Arnold, Homster Runner, Are Always Ignored Even Eddsworld Sometimes

    • @VelvetteSimp
      @VelvetteSimp Před 21 dnem +4

      Its because those shows are objectively the best ones

    • @Axolotl_12358
      @Axolotl_12358 Před 20 dny +1

      What about Murder Drones?

    • @Fatih_M177
      @Fatih_M177 Před 17 dny +1

      Homestar Runner and Eddsworld, yeah, they do deserve more respect...... Skibidi Toilet?
      The fúck is wrong with you kiddo, like that isn't even an "Indie Animation" it's just pure dumbass brainrot. And I'm not saying this cause I'm a "hAtEr" or whatever, it literally is just pure brainrot.

    • @kauecaliel3265
      @kauecaliel3265 Před 16 dny

      And loose ends

    • @MoninaArguel
      @MoninaArguel Před 14 dny +1

      ​​@@Fatih_M177Hate the series all you want but cmon bro don't be an ass to its fans.

  • @somemadnessfan4763
    @somemadnessfan4763 Před 23 dny +8

    MADNESS COMBAT MENTIONED LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
    edit: why do they always use Mickey in these thumbnails but never use Bugs for WB or Spongebob for Viacom??, leave that poor mouse alone 😭

  • @WeatherWitch
    @WeatherWitch Před 22 dny +2

    Was not expecting a Gwain Saga shoutout! Thanks dude! 💖🤍

  • @YULDURUSTAN
    @YULDURUSTAN Před 25 dny +12

    “no views in 33 seconds?? this guy fell off!!!” -🤓
    edit: hey, im writing this from 7h later, and i want to tell you that this video is good

  • @trixsomethingsomething2095

    People who make Video Essays have a hate boner for Disney.

  • @yourname_342
    @yourname_342 Před 19 dny +2

    Funny how people focus on those 5 when glitch had brought spooky month onto glitch x also

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 7 dny +1

      Yeah but it doesn’t trending on twitter, or have 3d animation like TADC or MD or gore and edgy violence/humor, or enough lore bait for theorist. So some might see as having less quality or cultural importance I guess. That sounds like most of logic when people online determining when a show is good I guess. It’s the same with animator Alan who made animation vs animator fights. They were seen but never heard from it again which sucks.

  • @numbuh1507
    @numbuh1507 Před 17 dny +1

    You forgot to mention The Rhino and The Redbill in your list of indie animations

  • @sochan1379
    @sochan1379 Před 2 dny

    4 years ago: bfdi with old assets now: Non-OSC Content Always

  • @LIGHTERstudioANIMATOR
    @LIGHTERstudioANIMATOR Před 24 dny +5

    RAMSHACKLE

  • @Pauldinisavage
    @Pauldinisavage Před 24 dny +14

    I think indie animation beats Warner Brothers and Disney in creativity

    • @jonathanwade3882
      @jonathanwade3882 Před 23 dny +8

      Quite a bias take tbh. Gumball imo beats every indie show combined

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 7 dny +1

      @@jonathanwade3882true. They have some many different art styles. And yet it doesn’t feel out of place.

  • @redactedinfo8557
    @redactedinfo8557 Před 23 dny +10

    even though i'm not sure how relevant this is to the topic, i feel like a lot of people just turn their brains off when it comes to indie animation, overlooking details and aspects and just blindly taking whatever's given to them, at least for the most part.
    personally i'm not a fan of GLITCH productions, i don't really like their characters or their stories, but i feel like, even if you like these shows, there are a bunch of things that happen that are really questionable in their most popular shows, but it feels like they get consumed uncritically regardless. at least for the most part.
    it's just this, if i share my opinion, every now and then i get someone willing to discuss things and they give me a new perspective that i can respect and appreciate. most of the time i'm given the most arbitrary reasons as to why these shows are good and then i get called a bad person for disliking them - and not on twitter, it's like i made a point other people can't dispute and then get mad at me for pointing out genuine flaws these shows have like they're suddenly insecure for being a fan of them.
    don't get me wrong, i'm glad that indie animation is giving some much-needed competition, and i honestly wish i could enjoy these shows as much as so many others seem to, but i feel like there's a lot of bias when it comes to this, and it's what leads to misconceptions about indie animation and outrageous takes that i'm thankful this video addresses since i feel like there's a lot of bias and lack of critical thinking driving these points forward. too much, if you ask me.

    • @JustA-Person
      @JustA-Person Před 20 dny +6

      I def agree with you and hell I’m a glitch fan. Most of the people doing the Disney vs indie thing just wanna focus on the big ones everyone knows leaving other great indie projects in the dark like Hugo’s mind palace the earth guy and atlas and the stars. And if tadc weren’t as popular you know some of the people singing its praises wouldn’t care and that just makes me mad.

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 9 dny +1

      @@redactedinfo8557 I agree I feel indie gets more leniency from reviewers because “ they have less money or people”, or “ there’s passion in this”. As if all Disney and WB employees are overworked or passionless. I just feel people make big claims but are very selective and put them against the weakest links. To get there point across.

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 7 dny +1

      I agree I feel indie tends to get free passes more then people care to admit. Like I don’t think TADC is a masterpiece it’s fine. However it feels no one criticizes it. Which makes it weird when it seems I’m the only one not in love with it.

  • @shashummga3477
    @shashummga3477 Před 22 dny +2

    Transformers Earthspark got so fucked over man. Paramount never did any advertising for it, and none of the big animation community channels ignored it for the most part

  • @NewMarioFanYT
    @NewMarioFanYT Před 22 dny +3

    I’m abit a happy because you mentioned BFDI and Alphabet Lore bur you could’ve say the OSC and the Alphabet Lore Community because we got branches

  • @uwuciut
    @uwuciut Před 22 dny +3

    ONGEZELLIG MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @LightningAdrian
    @LightningAdrian Před 24 dny +11

    To @TubbybloxianCZcams, I wanna say I'm glad to find someone who has similar views and opinions on this "Indie Animation vs. Hollywood" thing. Thanks for this video bro (even though I don’t know you). If you see this, you can reply on what I mean.

    • @MagicSpectrum
      @MagicSpectrum Před 24 dny +7

      I agree. This "Indie Animation vs Hollywood" thing is stupid. I keep seeing these videos that to me read like, "Why you should give up on Hollywood Now!" or "Why Indie Animation is perfect in every single way while Hollywood can rot in the dirt". Especially with how vulnerable Hollywood is right now.

    • @MagicSpectrum
      @MagicSpectrum Před 24 dny +10

      I believe that both Hollywood animation and Indie Animation can be loved equally as opposed to one above the other.

    • @LightningAdrian
      @LightningAdrian Před 24 dny +2

      @@MagicSpectrum Finally, someone who agrees and has the same views as me! Thanks Bro! I definitely agree with you!

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy Před 24 dny +3

      @@LightningAdrian Even tho I'm not a fan of the studios and companies recently, I'll still watch their animated content.

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 9 dny +1

      @@LightningAdrian I’m tired of it always being a competition. Then when it is many frame it as a one sided massacre. Without acknowledging the pros and cons of both.

  • @Puggers22
    @Puggers22 Před 23 dny +1

    Well made video 👍

  • @FireyBrazilfnfhhpayFan
    @FireyBrazilfnfhhpayFan Před 24 dny +6

    4:28 I agree

  • @theokkali467
    @theokkali467 Před 25 dny +3

    great vid!

  • @borisarchive
    @borisarchive Před 23 dny +2

    Yo NOXP mention 🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @AngelloGomez-nh6cc
    @AngelloGomez-nh6cc Před 13 dny

    There's no way you mentioned Charlie the Unicorn but left llamas with hats out

  • @eeveefennecfox
    @eeveefennecfox Před 24 dny +11

    at least indie cartoons dont cancle their shows,unlike fucking disney does,can't get any decent cartoons anymore cause disney keeps cancling all of the good ones and keeps the shitty ones

    • @eeveefennecfox
      @eeveefennecfox Před 24 dny +1

      what part of leave me the fucking hell alone are you not understanding me? for fuck sake,can't you see I'm extremely uncomfortable?

    • @MoninaArguel
      @MoninaArguel Před 23 dny +14

      You good bro? No am serious? Are you okay?

    • @jonathanwade3882
      @jonathanwade3882 Před 23 dny +4

      @@MoninaArguel This dude must be on that lo mein shit

    • @scribblefun9576
      @scribblefun9576 Před 22 dny +2

      @@eeveefennecfoxWHAT

    • @thundrpawz
      @thundrpawz Před 16 dny +4

      Lil bro are you good?

  • @danielsvetlichny5721
    @danielsvetlichny5721 Před 24 dny +39

    Can I simply say that this is the video that I REALLY needed it? Say what you will about Wish but I personally think it is charming and lovely, which I will be seeing soon again, and I will forever keep on defending it. The fact that these people are using the success of The Amazing Digital Circus as an excuse to diss Disney, especially Wish, is nothing short of disgusting to me. As in, I don't personally think that GLITCH and Gooseworx intentionally wanted to rub Disney the wrong way as all they wanted to do is to make entertaining quality.

    • @Chaki21
      @Chaki21 Před 24 dny +11

      I find Wish uninteressing and without any (positive) charm, but I do find it stupid to use indie shows to get against Disney. It's like people saying that GLITCH's Mr. Puzzles' villain song was ON THE SAME LEVEL AS BE PREPARED OR F*CKING HELLFIRE, the music is good, mind you, but nowhere near that level

    • @danielsvetlichny5721
      @danielsvetlichny5721 Před 24 dny +1

      @@Chaki21 That is what YOU alone think about Wish whereas I think otherwise.

    • @MechadonPrime
      @MechadonPrime Před 24 dny +3

      The criticism of Disney and other studios isn’t about the quality of their animated movies or shows; it’s how they treat their animators. Indie is absolutely deserving of its praise.

    • @MechadonPrime
      @MechadonPrime Před 24 dny +1

      @@Chaki21Nonbody is saying that. Take down the strawman.

    • @Iloveyou-dz7mq
      @Iloveyou-dz7mq Před 24 dny +8

      Yeah I'm sorry, wish just sucks. It's a waste honestly, it's Disney's 100th Anniversary and this is the shit movie that we get? lol no thanks.

  • @clownpal697
    @clownpal697 Před 20 dny +2

    Why only Disney. Sorry for saying that but what about wander brothers and all the other companies that is in a shit show like disney

  • @Taoro3.0
    @Taoro3.0 Před 24 dny +4

    Hi man^^ sorry for running away from the topic but can you send me the link to the soundtrack that you used? I remember playing a roblox game with that soundtrack about aliens so i wanna hear it again xD

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy Před 24 dny

      @@Taoro3.0 Are ya talking about the BFB soundtrack? You can find that on CZcams Music.

  • @gryficowa
    @gryficowa Před 24 dny +3

    5:34
    There was also financial support from Israel

  • @babyghasttime4266
    @babyghasttime4266 Před 20 dny

    God that thumbnail

  • @DYXAnims69
    @DYXAnims69 Před 18 dny

    HOLY SHIT DINOSAURIA MENTION1!1!

  • @jkdjjj
    @jkdjjj Před 16 dny +1

    Paramount has done much worse stuff to animation than WBD or Disney ever will.

    • @lupitaruiz7605
      @lupitaruiz7605 Před 14 dny

      Especially what happened during the production of The Tiger's Apprentice.

  • @skootergirl22
    @skootergirl22 Před 24 dny +7

    Disney wants to rule everything

  • @Nikku4211
    @Nikku4211 Před 15 dny

    Best indie animation is RaxdFlipnote.

  • @KrankyKartoons
    @KrankyKartoons Před 15 dny

    7:52 did they completely ignore Once Upon a Studio?????

  • @babyghasttime4266
    @babyghasttime4266 Před 20 dny +1

    You did not have to do clickbait

  • @bluy3llow9787
    @bluy3llow9787 Před 24 dny +2

    BFB ost music in the background 😊
    I don't know what to say to the actual point of the vid, so I'm just not gonna say anything

  • @Polychi1998
    @Polychi1998 Před 14 dny

    Blame saberspark for encouraging this debate.

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 Před 6 dny

      I wouldn’t put all the blame on him. It’s mostly just a conglomerate of media analysts wanting to see big company get defeated by little company. It’s like an IRL underdog story. I find this culture war stupid and people do be taking it out of proportion, then don’t want to acknowledge the flaws of some indie shows and Success of some current Disney and WB shows and movie. Because big company always evil.

  • @MoninaArguel
    @MoninaArguel Před 12 dny

    It kinda sucks that russian indie animation is basically ignored 😞

  • @sky0kast0
    @sky0kast0 Před 23 dny +1

    Yup you certainly can mention more but as you add more the less attention you can keep

  • @luziafernandez297
    @luziafernandez297 Před 24 dny +7

    this commment was made in july what mont is it now

  • @gryficowa
    @gryficowa Před 24 dny +4

    Paying $35 for one second sounds like a lot (Especially since you don't animate the whole scene, you animate each other, you know, animation is teamwork)
    At least from what I learned in the case of animation, seriously, if people animated the entire frame (Like in the animation of Spinder-man: Universe, it would be a problem, but this is about the standard animation process, unfortunately, such accusations were easy to outrage people because people don't know the animation process)

    • @Dat_Guy-IsCool
      @Dat_Guy-IsCool Před 24 dny

      Spinder-man: Universe

    • @gryficowa
      @gryficowa Před 24 dny

      @@Dat_Guy-IsCool ???

    • @IAARPOTI
      @IAARPOTI Před 24 dny +2

      But $35 for what kind of second animation? Fully rendering or process by process each? I think it is the former option that makes controversy.

    • @gryficowa
      @gryficowa Před 24 dny

      @@IAARPOTI The problem is that they don't animate and draw the whole thing, but they work together, that's what animation is all about

    • @gryficowa
      @gryficowa Před 24 dny

      ​@@IAARPOTI It's standard to say "One second of animation for a few dollars", they won't say that for animation sketches, you don't really see that, it's said that way and the process works as I mentioned earlier

  • @WeaponizedToyCar
    @WeaponizedToyCar Před 24 dny +9

    Digital Circus is so forgettable compared to stuff like BFDI, Homestar Runner, or Eddsworld in my opinion 😞

  • @sochan1379
    @sochan1379 Před 4 dny

    Why do you leave OSC Alone?

  • @ssesssusman9417
    @ssesssusman9417 Před 23 dny +1

    4:37 didn’t alphabet lore die?

  • @LIKEFRITOS
    @LIKEFRITOS Před 22 dny

    3:43 I would like to

  • @jr_estudio
    @jr_estudio Před 24 dny +15

    In my opinion, digital circus dont deserve its sucess. There is many other indie and non indie series that truly deserve more. I dont mean that tadc is bad, but i think its really overhyped.

    • @WhatchaLookinAt-l4w
      @WhatchaLookinAt-l4w Před 24 dny +13

      @@jr_estudio I like TADC but i have to admit it's overhyped as shit, there are way better shows than TADC tbh

    • @LightningAdrian
      @LightningAdrian Před 24 dny +5

      I agree with you and I have the same exact opinion as you bro!

    • @micjimster4845
      @micjimster4845 Před 23 dny +10

      It just came out at a good time. It came out where everyone's eyes were at indie animation so it didn't matter the quality as long as it proved indie animation can stand a chance against mainstream companies. I imagine once that calms down. people will stop over hyping it...

    • @VelvetteSimp
      @VelvetteSimp Před 22 dny +4

      Honestly I just found TADC boring the only characters I even liked were Jax and Caine

    • @lime360_official
      @lime360_official Před 18 dny +1

      tbh i didn't even watch tadc

  • @imaniislander755
    @imaniislander755 Před 21 dnem

    20:30 I agree with you on the discord thing, but dang man let them earn money! so, what if it can get leak people will still pay and the leakers need to paid and brokeys like me can watch videos from the links and speard the word around its all good either way

  • @BlueVolt682
    @BlueVolt682 Před 23 dny +2

    FNAF SFMs > indie animation

  • @JaviSocas2My2ndChannel

    Lyosacks: Are we jokes to you?

  • @JaviSocas2My2ndChannel

    March 6, I think is the same day that MatPat retired from Game Theory as host. 😢