The twist rate of 300PRC rifles is the trick.....go to a faster twist rate in any of the older magnum cartridges, especially the 7mm magnum variants, and watch the performance jump past these newer "hot rod" cartridges.
I’m of the age range where the Weatherby was a dream rifle. We had a large gun shop in the area that carried Weatherby Mark V rifles and had a display of all Weatherby cartridges …… the first time viewing a 30-378 cartridge round was an eye opener! We grew up “knowing” that the Weatherby magnums were the hot rods of the gun world. Hard to beat them.
Man, saw your videos on the mark V deluxe and they totally convinced me to go pick one up for myself. I guess we are twins now mines also in 340 WBY, Absolutely love it. Thank you!
There is a reason they only advertise it against the 300 wm The 300PRC offers very little over 300 wby. It really doesn't offer that much over 300 wm and I know how much superior the weatherby is to the win mag.
This is a huge gripe of mine about Hornady load data. Almost every time they show load data with a cartridge that competes with one of their cartridges, they really water them down.
Go get a copy of a Weatherby Guide from the 70’s and look at all the game taken with a 300 WM in the far corners of the world and its still just as capable today!
I have a 257 weatherby and like it I’m just not a fan of all there stuff due to price availability ect. But I think there are two cartridge that Weatherby just rocked 257 and the 300.
Still a 300 PRC fan a little more case capacity for the 300 Weatherby. Both are amazing cartridges and are very viable choices. The only thing that hinders the 300 Weatherby is the limitation on brass. And you can’t stabilize the 250gr
If you don't want to own a Weatherby rifle, it's much easier to do so with the .300 PRC. I wish Hornady would make some of the parent .375 Ruger though, because I haven't found anything but super expensive loaded ammo for that. I'd be more inclined to buy a Weatherby if their less expensive models had threaded barrels and more modern stock designs. I'm not a huge fan of their vanguard stocks personally.
Although ballistically similar these two cartridges are designed to be better for different bullets - 300 WBY for traditional ogive hunting bullets at high velocity, the 300 PRC for heavy high BC bullets at slightly lower velocity. My preference is for the 300 PRC but I would rather have a 1-10 twist for the bullets I would be using. I will say however that I've been very impressed with the results you've had from your Vanguard in 300 WBY.
300 Weatherby is the best 30 caliber Magnum is like fine wine. You can go larger or smaller, but none is better . Keep the PRC , 300 Winchester, and the 300/378 Magnum. Only better game crushing cartridge is the 340 Weatherby because of added bullet weight and slightly larger bullet diameter .
I picked up 4 boxes hornady 30 cal ELD X 178 gr cheap. I am looking at a new vanguard 300 wby. The 2 models i am looking at. Outfitter First Lite Cipher Exclusive. Have u looked at them in person? My local store only has the all black one. I like the spiral barrel. Any suggestion?
@@ReloadingWeatherby not much difference. Just the price. I forgot I bought a box of Hornady 200 gr ELD X bullets . Going to try some IMR 7828ssc in it.
According to Hornady 10 grains of water between the .300 Win Mag and .300 Weatherby Mag only gets you an extra 50 - 100 fps 🤪 They say only follow the data because ‘SAFETY’ but then they lie and cook the books.
I have been thinking, if Winchester wants to get back at Hornady for trying to kill the 6.8 Western they should bring the 7-300 PRC wild cat to SAAMI It would perform far better then the 7PRC (especially right now) hell it would likely be the best performing 7 around rivaling the 28 nosler and if it keeps the 1-8 twist it would use the same bullets as the 7prc
Honestly for what the 6.8 W offers I'd rather shoot it over the 7PRC already. It's more efficient and really not very far off of the 7PRC performance overall. And it's in a short action.
An 80 year old cartridge that beats the new kid , why do we need a new one ? Oh yea , to sell new rifles ! Btw you don’t want a tight chamber in a hunting rifle , if you have a slightly out of spec cartridge it may not chamber ! When the Bear charges and it won’t chamber for the second shot you may become ( LUNCH ) !…… Enjoy your new cartridge that is not NEEDED !…….
@@jasonshults368 Yea most people do , but a new hunter may not do this . Tight chambers are for target rifles not hunting rifles ! All my ( standard ) chamber rifles shoot well under an inch . It’s marketing hype !
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This ain't even a thing. .300 weatherby kicks butt.
Team 300 Wby all the way.
And taken names!
The twist rate of 300PRC rifles is the trick.....go to a faster twist rate in any of the older magnum cartridges, especially the 7mm magnum variants, and watch the performance jump past these newer "hot rod" cartridges.
I’m of the age range where the Weatherby was a dream rifle. We had a large gun shop in the area that carried Weatherby Mark V rifles and had a display of all Weatherby cartridges …… the first time viewing a 30-378 cartridge round was an eye opener! We grew up “knowing” that the Weatherby magnums were the hot rods of the gun world. Hard to beat them.
THE .300 PRC BEATS IT.
300 wby all day
Let's see a 300 Norma Mag vs 300WBY
That’s not even weatherbys fastest .30
That snow looks so cool. Clean air, beautiful day!
300 WBY, the original ultra mag.
Very informative video!
Thanks!
Man, saw your videos on the mark V deluxe and they totally convinced me to go pick one up for myself. I guess we are twins now mines also in 340 WBY, Absolutely love it. Thank you!
Congrats!
There is a reason they only advertise it against the 300 wm
The 300PRC offers very little over 300 wby.
It really doesn't offer that much over 300 wm and I know how much superior the weatherby is to the win mag.
Nailed it thanks. Its nice when people like u listen and go to extra mile. It's great to see it from a prospective setting layed out easier.
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the time taken to set aside for us gun nerds
@@brandonjett16 I enjoy doing it!
Great comparison
Thanks
This is a huge gripe of mine about Hornady load data. Almost every time they show load data with a cartridge that competes with one of their cartridges, they really water them down.
Why i love me Ruger No.1 in 300 wby ......
The Fourth edition HORNADY loading book has some good loads for a 300 WBY and the 267 and a lot more.
Go get a copy of a Weatherby Guide from the 70’s and look at all the game taken with a 300 WM in the far corners of the world and its still just as capable today!
I have a 257 weatherby and like it I’m just not a fan of all there stuff due to price availability ect. But I think there are two cartridge that Weatherby just rocked 257 and the 300.
You only get factory ammo?
@@ReloadingWeatherby absolutely not I would be on food stamps. I reload factory or buy brass from Weatherby. It’s all just ungodly expensive.
300 Wby holds its own no matter the .30 caliber new kid on the block. I have them both. But then, that's what gun-nuts do.
Still a 300 PRC fan a little more case capacity for the 300 Weatherby. Both are amazing cartridges and are very viable choices. The only thing that hinders the 300 Weatherby is the limitation on brass. And you can’t stabilize the 250gr
If you don't want to own a Weatherby rifle, it's much easier to do so with the .300 PRC. I wish Hornady would make some of the parent .375 Ruger though, because I haven't found anything but super expensive loaded ammo for that. I'd be more inclined to buy a Weatherby if their less expensive models had threaded barrels and more modern stock designs. I'm not a huge fan of their vanguard stocks personally.
There is the Model 307 more
Although ballistically similar these two cartridges are designed to be better for different bullets - 300 WBY for traditional ogive hunting bullets at high velocity, the 300 PRC for heavy high BC bullets at slightly lower velocity. My preference is for the 300 PRC but I would rather have a 1-10 twist for the bullets I would be using. I will say however that I've been very impressed with the results you've had from your Vanguard in 300 WBY.
Beltless cartridges are a fad, remember when WSSM’s were the hot ticket, Bahaha!
300 Weatherby is the best 30 caliber Magnum is like fine wine. You can go larger or smaller, but none is better . Keep the PRC , 300 Winchester, and the 300/378 Magnum. Only better game crushing cartridge is the 340 Weatherby because of added bullet weight and slightly larger bullet diameter .
I picked up 4 boxes hornady 30 cal ELD X 178 gr cheap. I am looking at a new vanguard 300 wby.
The 2 models i am looking at.
Outfitter
First Lite Cipher Exclusive. Have u looked at them in person? My local store only has the all black one. I like the spiral barrel. Any suggestion?
I haven't seen those in person. Pick the one you like the most. Can't go wrong with either one
@@ReloadingWeatherby not much difference. Just the price. I forgot I bought a box of Hornady 200 gr ELD X bullets . Going to try some IMR 7828ssc in it.
I’ve been debating about building a custom long range rifle in 300 PRC or 30 x 378 Weatherby. Go big or go home
Go Big! 30-378 Weatherby
No contest, kicking @$$ since 1944.
What bullets did you have loaded?
In the beginning? 225 gr ELD-M
@@ReloadingWeatherby they look like all copper bullets? Are those the 181 hammers? Been thinking of ordering some for my 300 wby!
@@trentjacobs90 Oh yes. It's the 181 gr Hammer Hunter
Both cartridges are winners
300wby has .361 freebore, 300prc has .232.
According to Hornady 10 grains of water between the .300 Win Mag and .300 Weatherby Mag only gets you an extra 50 - 100 fps 🤪
They say only follow the data because ‘SAFETY’ but then they lie and cook the books.
Ik the 300wby won but 3000fps with a 225 grain ain’t no slouch either
300 PRC is a great cartridge!
I have been thinking, if Winchester wants to get back at Hornady for trying to kill the 6.8 Western they should bring the 7-300 PRC wild cat to SAAMI
It would perform far better then the 7PRC (especially right now) hell it would likely be the best performing 7 around rivaling the 28 nosler and if it keeps the 1-8 twist it would use the same bullets as the 7prc
Sounds fun... highly doubt Winchester does it.
Honestly for what the 6.8 W offers I'd rather shoot it over the 7PRC already.
It's more efficient and really not very far off of the 7PRC performance overall. And it's in a short action.
It’s called the 7 LRM by Gunwerks.
The Mighty 300 is by far the most efficient 30 cal out there ....
That would definitely go to the Norma but once you start getting to large 30 caliber bullet sizes efficiency starts to take a backseat
That's an absurd definition of "efficiency" you have there.
Efficiency would have to go to .300 WSM.
Thought this dude had purple hair in the beginning
What? Haha
thats the 6.5 credmore guys lol
An 80 year old cartridge that beats the new kid , why do we need a new one ? Oh yea , to sell new rifles ! Btw you don’t want a tight chamber in a hunting rifle , if you have a slightly out of spec cartridge it may not chamber ! When the Bear charges and it won’t chamber for the second shot you may become ( LUNCH ) !…… Enjoy your new cartridge that is not NEEDED !…….
You run your hunting rounds through your hunting rifle before going hunting, or you're asking for trouble. Tight specs make for more accurate results.
@@jasonshults368 Yea most people do , but a new hunter may not do this . Tight chambers are for target rifles not hunting rifles ! All my ( standard ) chamber rifles shoot well under an inch . It’s marketing hype !
Not even close. Like racing a Ferrari with a pinto
Your analogy is not even close.
BETTER TWIST RATE AND NO STUPID BELT... 300 PRC ALL THE WAY!!!!!!