Converting My ARRMA Typhon 4x4 Mega V3 To Brushless!!! Part 1
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 12. 08. 2020
- I'm on a quest to see what the ARRMA Typhon 4x4 Mega can handle. I picked up a $100 Hobbywing system for mine that has a Max10 ESC and EZRUN 3652 3300KV motor. It's not really rated for an 1/8 scale 4wd buggy, but I thought I'd give it a try.
I said I put in a 19t pinion, but I accidentally grabbed the 15T I had shown in the last video. Apparently I put it in the 19t spot as well. đ€Šââïžđ
I'm curious how this slipper will hold up to the power and if I'll have to upgrade that as well. I have a spare 3s slipper from my Granite V1 that I hope will fit if something goes wrong. :)
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There is almost no videos on people going from brushed to brushless on this exact car and thatâs what I want to do, so this video is so amazing and super helpful. I want to upgrade mine to brushless but I just didnât know what I could use and what would work, but this video is a saving grace thanks for uploading this.
I did the same build basically. Took the 550 typhon. did a hobby wing max 10 with a 4000kv motor. Added a bunch of the blx parts off of the granites and extended the chassis and swing arms. The thing is a beast!
Nice vid Bro. Always well done. Thank you for the in depth info. Videos like this are a joy to find for someone attempting this for the first time. Cant wait to see it run!
When soldering XT connectors, plug the connector into another connector to help with heat dissipation. Also you csn twist the cups so they both face up while the connector is flat so you can solder both wires without moving the connector.
I enjoy how simply u explained everything, thanks dude.
I love those "helping hands" you got there to make soldering easier. Nice solder job aswell. Man I want one of these Rigs just to make it brushless!!
Awesome tutorial again! Love the Hobbywing ez-run system. I prefer to run xt60 or xt90 connectors on all my RCâs.
man thank you for this video.. im trying to get into upgrading and moding my rc cars.. just got this and want to start upgrading and cant get any help.. than here came your channel to save me thanks man...
Nice conversion Tony and you beat me to it in converting one of these, that said I'd like to see one with the stock arrma brushless upgrade. Dropping a small bomb tonight on youtube when the Arrma upload is finally completed!
Driftomaniacs Iâll be watching for it! The new stock setup is Spektrum and those are back ordered. I went with what the local shop had that would fit and not cost more than the car did. đ
@@CCxRC I am losing the will to live my 500Mps link being running at...60kb for past two hours!
Driftomaniacs that is sooooo slow
I put that same system in my Daughters Redcat Blackout SC. It RIPS! Great upgrade! Keep Bashing and stay safe, from Colorado!!!
That's great to hear Ervin! I haven't used this system yet, but I've heard good things...just like your comment.
You said daughter ? I wish my daughter was into RC great for her dudeđđ»
@@27pugsly Thanks man, jst trying to spend some time doing this during these crazy times! Im glad she likes this hobby, gives me even more time to spend with her! Stay safe and keep bashing!!!
Ervin Medina thatâs awesome stay positive man weâll all get through this with the help of our RCs !
Wow that is gonna be a beast with that brushless system and I think it's going to fly lol đ. Can't wait to see the run vid of that đđ€
Great video thanks for the help I went with a 33t pinion and a metal mega spur gear 91t same gear ratio as the 3s 0.8 mod 20t 57t spur gear
Nice brushless setup!
Hey glad I found this video, thanks for the useful info! Got this car for my 8yo for Christmas and he's already outgrown the speed. Going to go brushless but I was wondering if you had any suggestions on updated motor/ESC options given that this video is nearly 1.5 years old. I have this exact brushless kit sitting in my Amazon cart, but I thought I'd ask if there's anything else you would change? Thinking of going 3S, so I'd probably upgrade to a metal spur gear as well. Thanks for any recommendations, loving the hobby!
Amazing 'One Screw' motor system! It's a good idea to check your gear mesh in several places and look for tight spots.
BTW, it's best to cut the ends off the wires and start with your own solder instead of mixing with their lead-free solder.
Enjoy that new brushless set up in the Typhon, look forward to seeing how it does.
Thanks Kagan! Hoping the slipper doesn't explode on me. :)
@@CCxRC planning to upgrade to brushless here, wondering if the plastic slipper lasted long or did you have to replace it eventually? Thx!
@@abelpaz5960 it did not last. I ended up install the 3s 32pitch slipper
Awesome video, keep em coming.
Thank you bro, bought a mega by accident lol all I saw was BRUSHLESS gears! and thought it was a 3s
Donât feel bad for me though a week later I bought a kraton 6s and holy funk it rips the face off nature.
Now Iâve got a winter project âïžđâïž
I got this exact brushless system on a Bandit and on 3s it is nice and fast. have never had issues with the ESC or motor runs strong :D
maybe you shouldve gone with velineon
Good video for doing brushless set up the arrma typhon
Sweet Tony! Time to shred!
Good work man...đ€đ
Super helpful man thanks
Awesome channel!!
COOL cool cool, Big like đ looking forward to đŻ
I changed my typhon mega to brushless i bought a brushless combo from ebay esc and 3300 kv motor with 5mm shaft brand is GOol RC it will also take up to 4s for $40 shipped to my door in 3days i run a 21t 48p pinion and it works amazingly well no problems with over heating.
I just converted my mega typhon to a 2200kv castle with a 150a ESC 6s capable it's a monster on wheels thumbs upđ
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What lipo you use and did you upgrade the gears?
Awesome Vid. I put a Velineon esc and the 3250kv motor, motor mount, and slipper from the 3s typhoon in my mega. Itâs 32 pitch now super durable. Only issue I have is the flimsy shocks in the front. Repaired the a few times hate the design.
I've got a spare 3s slipper I need to find and install
very good tutorial!!!
Great info
I already burnt the motor in mine đ€Ł. Put a 21t for now until I am able to spend on a good brushless system.
With the EZ Run10 would I need to swap out the stock pinion or could it remain?? Sorry new to RC. Love the video
Iâve ran my Hobbywing Max8 for only 2 weeks and that tape did nothing but attract first and eventually fall off. Iâm gonna try a few other ways of holding the ESC. Awesome video though. Mines a Typhon 3S upgraded to 4S/6S.
The 48p arrma spur gears are soft like butter and instantly strip with any slight amount of juice
How well did this hold up? I was really hoping to see a performance test. Thanks, anyway.
Iâve got the same Combo in my TYPHON mega and it heats up always with a 15t pinion
My first electric 1/10 is a Granite that was converted to Brushless. its got a SPektrum 3300 and 85a ESC, with the 15t pinion and stock everything else, its a fast little sucker on 3s. but the gearhead in me wants to know what a bigger motor would do on it, I think im already verging on the edge of what the little truck is capable of using and having fun. I fell like at some point, they get not fun trying to control power.
Do you think it's worth to just go ahead and get the v5 6s? I'm having a hard time other than electronics and the frame finding improvements. Thanks!
First things to go will be the plastic pinions. Next will be the spur gear.
Get the front and rear diff from the 3s (different ratio from the mega, so you have to do both). Next, center spur and slipper from the 3s (hard to find and expensive). Don't worry about the driveshaft center bearing. Have run 6s on MM2 with castle 1900kv, no driveshaft issues.
These are good points, but this is the V3 version of the car that was just released. It is running the brushless ready front and rear diff and the slipper outdrives have been updated to handle brushless power. I still think upgrading the slipper to the 3s version is a good move because of the dual slipper pads and 32p gears.
Yeah I said the same thing and learned something new , I did the same with my 2019 mega Typhon ! Love his channel !
@@27pugsly Still messed up with the mesh. hahah
You ran an MM2 and 1900 on 6s in the Mega drivetrain???! đ Lol
@@motortoys9942 I didnt, but my buddy did in spite of my warnings. Actually held up longer than I thought...
Where did you get your black Semi truck at is on your red toolbox. I like it đ
Tip: donât get a temp gun just get a fan đ
I just installed the max10 on mine. I am a little worries that the 60A will be enough. Any problems so far?. I got a 3150KV motor and a 17T as well.
We put a 20t in our MEGA Granite....32p..it's pretty awesome. I think. Nice video!
Yeah. I need to go to a 32p spurt. Did you change out the entire slipper to the 3s one? I have one ready to drop in....but wanted to see what would happen to the stock slipper assembly
@@CCxRC I did do an entire switch to the 3s slipper. It can be done with the stock assembly but it's just way easier to put in the 3s. Well, my husband made the 1 from the stock assembly. I smoked it on 1st run too though! The 3s, even I can put it in. He did saw the piece,the screw that goes threw the spring, screws into...in 2 pieces (spring screw nut)to get a good snug fit. Good luck
Thanks for taking the time to make this detailed video - brand new to RC and this helped with taking things apart. I do have a quick question though - I heard a weird grinding noise and a strong burning smell coming from my car about 4 days after buying it. Hope I am getting the terminology right... i opened the motor mount and saw where the spur gear and pinion gear mesh. The spur gear looked a little big chewed up in some areas and the spur gear seemed to have a lot of play - as in the shaft itself seemed a bit wobbly. It was clear that the "wobblyness" could hook up the gears or pull far enough apart that it would slip. Is it safe to say the pinion shaft should have no wobble? Any idea what would cause that? I have submitted a technical support request with Horizon Hobby but their response times are very slow.
BTW - I love this truck, and while only having it for 4 days I can say I completely beat the crap out of it through dirt, gravel, mud, wood chips, etc - so I kind of assumed some things would go wrong.
Glad it was helpful Dave. It will have wobble when apart because it is held in place when the other half of the plastic case is screwed together and holds the shaft. It does make it difficult to set the gear mesh. It's possible that dirt and other grime got in there. Some people drill/cut open a spot in the chassis below the spur gear to let the dirt that gets in fall out the bottom.
@@CCxRC Ok - thanks for the quick reply. And yes - a lot of debris got in there, I had to keep cleaning it out. Thats a good idea about drilling the hole underneath.
Can you go up in pinion size from a 17 to a 19 doesn't that make it slower kind of like a bicycle or a mountain bike going up in gears on the front sprocket
Tony would this be a decent system for the Granite 550 mega?
Hey, looking at upgrading and new to hobby will 5mm motor work? Or is the 3mm best...
Cool vid as usual. I still think the brushless is the way to go, unless you get a free one of course. That's because in order to upgrade this Mega identical to the $320 Blx version with the 100amp esc and other upgrades, it would cost over $410 total using brand new parts.
Right. You are coming at this from an RCers perspective. I'm coming at it from someone's perspective of buying it for their 8 year old kid for a birthday or Christmas. They've now outgrown the speed. You don' t have to drop a fresh $330. You can drop $100 and get them more speed and enjoyment out of the vehicle you bought on a whim which was still considered an expensive present for them when compared to RCs they saw at Walmart or Target (and will way outperform them). Anybody that can handle brushless and afford to drop $320 plus a charger and battery is better off with the BLX. I've written this out before. There's a reason I didn't get the same 100amp ESC and Motor....because at that point you might as well think about just getting the BLX vs. dropping over $150 on electronics. I figure this would make it fun as a bridge to their next RC car. You could do it for less if you bought something on Amazon like a GoolRC or bought a used system on Facebook marketplace.
My 8 year old has been playing with my 3s typhon and I think I'm going to get him the brushed version. I put a 7700kV castle in his 2wd stampede on 3s 17 tooth pinion and it's to fast for me even now I'm in a pickle
If u buy surplus hobby or gool rc parts it can be cheap
He's using top name electrics
Not for 8 yr olds
It will need HD input shafts. You can't set the gear mesh on these without the motor cover on. The cover sets the spur assembly so it's straight.... then trial and error to set the mesh.
You are very right! I figured that out after the video and seeing how tight the mesh was. You can get a good idea if you really work on getting the spur sitting centered, but it needs to be tested after. Mentioned all this in the run video I did after the motor change. I still ran it briefly, because I knew when I opened it, I'd be changing to 19T pinion. A lot of these videos are shot back to back and distributed over a couple days, so I try to address things I may notice I did wrong in a previous video. I'll have a comprehensive look at moving the Mega 4x4 V3 to brushless at the end once I've figured out what I can and can't do.
Nothing worse then those 480p and 144p versions
Prefer the UHD myself
Doing the same mod to my Mega, but if placing the ESC where U have done you got like 1-2mm Clarence from the ESC fan to the body shell. So I will not recommend that placement. It fits down in the chassis perfect.
Great video very helpful but I'm new to this an I can't get the radio calibration right followed it set by set on the video not sure if it my slt3 an if so is there a way to factory reset maybe I'm doing the settings wrong or can someone help me find a great video that can help?
What happens if you hook up 3s to the stock esc and motor? I have one and want to try it bet am afraid to đ„ up the esc! Great video, thanks!
Probably wonât catch on fire, but it will burn it up. đš
could you tell me if i have to change the receiver or not ? cause i pass in lipo 3s 11.1v and i don't think the receiver like it ...
How would that system compare to the Arrma blx 3s system? Great video. Canât wait to see it running.
Not as powerful :) the ESC is only 60amps instead of the BLX 100 being a 100amp.
I am new to this. However I am doing the same upgrades on the same RC. How do you get the the motor to release?
Danke Bruder Kuss geht raus. Eeeeeehhhhrrrrrreeeee
Regarding your choice of the XT60 vs the EC5, aren't you concerned about dropping the limit of the connector by half? Have you experienced in your future runs that the XT60 gets too hot?
I know this is an old post but Iâve ran 80+ amps through an xt60 fairly continuously and they donât even get warm, theyâre great connectors.
I have a 3s brushless system from a 2wd truck will I be able to swap it right in?
Do you have a battery recommendation for this motor and ESC combo?
SICK VIDđ„đ„đ„. IS THAT A 1/8 MOTOR OR 1/10. ALL I CAN FIND ON AMAZON IS 1/10. WILL IT FIT THAT BUGGY? THANKS
I got the max10sct in my 1/8 scale buggy. Even though it's advertised for 1/10 scale only i had no issues with it. Runs 4s and hauls ass. đ
The Max10SCT is a bigger ESC then the one I got. This isn't rated to 1/8 scale buggy either, but I'm not trying to go crazy with this yet. I'm going out on a limb, but I think this will work with this car alright if I keep it geared right.
@@CCxRC should work fine as long as the gearing is right. 3100kv in a 1/8 scale is a little high.
@@luigibellantoni6828 what would be good for 1/8th scale then
@@robertarraiza5688 max8 combo would be ideal.
Hey guys I'm a total noob to RC stuff. does anyone know if you have to swap out the ESC in order to convert to brushless or does a brushless motor work just fine with the stock ESC. Also if not what is the benefit of the ESC converting
How has it worked for you? what sprocket do you have?
Is there am way without soldering the adapters?
What is your gearing? Like pinion and spur size?
Can this gearing keep up with the power?
You think it's worth upgrading the granite mega with this system? Looking forward to your test run on the tyhon!
I don't know. It was small and inexpensive. The ESC isn't rated for a 1/8 buggy though...but I think it'll handle this. We'll see how long it lasts and if it gets too hot.
How do you see that the ecs is with connector?
Did you upgrade any other gears after running this system? Like 3s slipper etc
I did upgrade to the 3s slipper to get 32p gears
What are you doing with that old motor and esc?
what kind of battery connector does this take?
Need to get myself one of them tools what is it
Hope you remembered to tighten that pinion fully after you checked đ
Haha. I did. I cut out several times where i adjusted it for time. Should be nice and tight :)
but now you have me second guessing. It's like when I lock the car and go into a store...but don't remember locking it....I have to go back and check đ€Šââïž So thanks for that đđđđ
Just watched the original video file...I did tighten it
Great informative video. I'm doing the same conversion to a Granite Mega V3.
Iâd get a bigger system for that. Those big wheels will really be a strain on this system.
@@CCxRC I'm using a Arrma 2050KV out of another model with the Arrma 100 BLX ESC. Good enough system for a cheap basher.
Is that $101 easy run kit from Amain?
Question, how did this work out? Were there any problems? Thinking of doing this mod to my sons Typhon v3.
need to get the 32 pitch spur assembly from the 3s lineup. It helped a lot
@@CCxRC would I be able to use the 18T pinion gear or would I just use the standard 3S pinion gear? Also the 32 pitch spur gear, how many teeth would that be assuming 57T right?
That speed control and motor combo costs more than the buggy.
Great videos much help can anyone give me a hand list my paper to put the setting in is there a website where I can find it?
^*Lost my paper with the list to put the settings
How is this setup holding up? I would like to upgrade my son's brushed motor setup to brushless
It dont hold up mate.
I have tried but cant find a steel spur gear and the plastic ones strip very fast.
CCxRC how durable is the typhon and how much is it i might consider purchasing one and is it water proof stock can it run lipo battery?????
this one was $220. It's a great starter car. If you know you want a really fast one from the start, the $330 Typhon 4x4 BLX is a better option.
@@CCxRC what site can i buy the typhon arma blx from amazon??
ed glauner they are sold out right now a lot of places. There is a new Version 3 of them coming out that have a new controller like this one. There are links in the description to the BLX models through Horizon Hobby site. When they come in stock they will ship. I pre-ordered a Big Rock BLX
So was it cheaper than just buying the 3s one or is it better đ€đ»đ€đ»
Cheaper and in stock locally. Just seeing what we can do to give people more speed without breaking the bank. Not everyone need 50mph.
But the 3s BLX is a better deal if you donât need to start slow.
You should have thrown the 57 tooth plastic spur gear on there
What size mod does that spur gear come with? .6, .8 ? Or what? Or does it come with 48 pitch?
It comes 48p, but Iâd recommend getting the 32p slipper assembly and changing the pinion.
@@CCxRC thanks. What is chanting? Sorry about all the questions
@@billy3650 I meant to type changing. I corrected it in case anyone else is reading and looking for this answer. :)
Ok bro can you tell us how she has been holding? Gotta believe that's 55mph speed with that system in there
It wasn't as fast as I'd expected. I did a speed test with it, but wasn't blown away. Got it to 37mph, but destroyed the spur gear. Setting the mesh is tricky, because when the case is opened....it's not locked in place. I have a 32pitch setup I want to try in it
@@CCxRC oh ok makes sense. Yeah lots of weak links. Needs to be locked like the 6s one is. 32 pitch will help forsure. Now was that on 2s or 3s the 37mph?
it's brushed in stock?!
and i use max10 4000kv in my Rustler XL-5 4x4 :D
The one I got was the brushed version of the Typhon. They have a 3s BLX version and 6S version as well. I'm just working through what new people might go through to upgrade their brushed versions if they start with one. Max10 4000kv is nice too. I just went with what was in stock at my local Hobbytown.
@@CCxRC Good choice, so far my max10 works flawless:D
changed receiver steering device for RadioLink, because more options :)
Street Blue glad to hear it. Itâs my first one. I usually buy castle creations combos, but wanted to keep this one more budget friendly and Iâve loved my Hobbywing Axe crawler systems
@@CCxRC btw, isn't the mesh too tight, ccxrc?
the wheels. stopped too fast!?
never heard about Castle Creations, at least not in Poland, are they more durable than Hobbywing or SkyRC motors/esc/combos?
@@deltazero3796 the wheels did stop fast. Not sure I want more space than it has though. There was definitely play already between the pinion and spur. I'm not a huge fan of 48pitch gears as there is little room for error in the mesh. I don't know who had the better systems. I've just always ran Castle and like their programming software.
Ur going to strip spur gears I would have went mod 0.8 for spur and pinion if u look at all brushless rcs went mod 0.8
Hobby logic: let's buy a super model with 350$.now let's upgrade the batteries ,the motor ,suspension ,aesthetics and tires . overall 900$....now i am ready to buy another model
How's the slipper holding up. I put a 3300kv on my son's. Just hope it doesn't burn it up lol đ
I upgraded to a 3s Blx 32pitch slipper
I probably end up doing same..... Thank for the info. 1st arrma vehicle so trying get a Lil here n there. I've owned everything but 1 til my son wanted it...... Pretty fun buggy for the price tho
Im wondering will this single side slipper hold the brushless power?
I'm going to see. I have a 3s slipper on the ready that I'm hoping will drop in if it gets obliterated.
rule of thumb is if you cant put your finger on the motor for two seconda then its too hot
I stripped out two spurs on my first battery through mine. Even on just 2s, is too much power for that 48 pitch gear or my car had some sort of slop/defect :(
Just buy the brushless version. Done.
This is for people who have already bought the mega
I made mine 8s lol
I used the esc out of my xmaxx real tight fit but I made it work all it does is wheelies
Dont do it folks! i have tried several times and each and every time the plastic spur gear just cant take it and strips in no time, as in within a battery pack or two at most so unless you can find a steel spur to take the brushless power you best buy 20 spurs to change with each battery pack.
The trick is to buy the 3s blx slipper and 32p gear. That's what I did and it worked great.
@@CCxRC A good way to go but i cant afford that these days...
Bash on mate.
I highly recommend you heat the connector for a moment before tinning my man.
Something is wrong with that it doesnât run free !
Agreed.
Going to up the pinion to 19t and see whatâs causing binding. The mesh looked and felt good...but maybe not.
CCxRC
Itâs possible mesh sounded a little screechy , having experience with these arrmas Diff itâs worth popping one out to see if the diff is spinning freely around the yoke I found every one of them so far to bind causing a drag which will increase load .đ€·ââïž
Itâs that the spur gear moves around making it hard to set mesh. You have to make sure itâs centered and check it when closed. It moved the spur when the chase held the other side in place
No offense but outside of these videos I can see why some people stay away from this hobby. If you call some of these retailers they have no clue, so dam frustrating. My son's car is making a clicking noise near the rear wheels when you roll it. I think it's the motor so I had some questions about what I need to purchase and everyone has been helpless but this video has been informative but I still don't know what to get smh
It could be the rear differential. Might have to open that and see if the teeth are all still in tact
@@CCxRC I was just thinking that. The car was purchased new in Dec and he barely drove it, would you say these guy bad pretty fast
@@CCxRC I didn't o[pen it up but the car rolls with now issues on noises with the motor out so I'm thinking it's the motor what you think? Also if I have to replace the motor what do you recommend?
Very poor choice of motor and esc. Really not gonna handle 3s