Power led lights on go kart mini bike and more with predator 212 charging coils electric start
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- čas přidán 18. 11. 2020
- Predator engine charging flywheel swapped led lights on go kart mini bike and more with predator 212 charging coils or electric start.
This video will show you how to install a wiring harness for go kart headlights and led lights. You can make this charing system light kit for a mini bike as well, or anything you predator swap an engine in or use a small 212cc engine for. This is a light generator mod wiring diagram based headlight kit.
One of the engines is the predator 212 charging system kit installed from amazon purchase and has electric start. The other engine magnet flywheel used comes with the coleman mini bike headlight kit on a coleman bt200x, ct200u-ex and can also see a similar charging coils setup and flywheel on the new coleman rb200. The engine does not come with LED lights or a battery chagring system which is where THIS video can help you get rid of LED flicker when LED headlights are installed on a mini bike or go kart, or again, other anything including snow thrower and more!
I break this video into two parts: the first has a wiring diagram for any engine to add the wires needed for charging a battery and also shows battery type needed and fuse needed. Then, the second part shows some engine options such as electric start on the tillotson 212, the duramax 212cc, and an extreme sports 212cc engine with charging coils. The non-hemi predator engine used is 212cc with electric start kit for model 69730. I have reference that the HEMI engine might be able to use Kohler electric start flywheel part number 1702530S ??
Although the predator 212cc electric start, charging gear, coils, and flywheel all work in the predator - if you are starting with a NEW engine and looking for a billet flywheel, the billet flywheel does not knowingly exist at this time. A POSSIBLY 10,000 rpm rated tilloston magnet flywheel, however, might exists on the Tillotson 212 with electric start.
I've asked about bringing this part into the US by itself, but the distributor will need to break news on that one if possible.
This install will allow you to get battery powered mini bike led lights and install go kart lights quickly. I hope all the color coding helped out and I hope you have a GREAT day!
electric start motor kit: amzn.to/3lPshZ0
flywheel cooling fan: amzn.to/3fcYsPo
voltage regulator/rectifier: amzn.to/3fdHsIR
LED projection go kart and mini bike lights: amzn.to/3pIZpUr
Coleman flywheel part numbers:
charging flywheel: 27500/168FZ-a
coil cord clamp: 32213/168FZ-a
flywheel cooling fan: 19722/168F-8 (can also get from amazon) - Jak na to + styl
Thanks for teaching me my colors using wires. Oh and lets not forget the connector types too! After that little lesson we jump to him driving it. Great!!!
I hate wiring so il be taking screen shot of that diagram. Nice vid bro all your vids are helpful and fun I need more subscribers the quality of your videos seems that of bigger longer running CZcams channels. Keep it up 👍🏽
You always do great work.When it comes to anything electronic I’m not good at it.I will have my brother hook up some lights for my builds.
I used to avoid wires. But then, it got dark and I wanted to keep riding 😆😆
That was like a 10 minute long Coleman Powersports commercial.
You put a lot of work in your videos bro great job
Maybe one day live the dream, bro!
@@megoingfast heck ya buddy I’m living it bud I just wish I was better with the technical side of it
Great video. This would be a good option..I opted for a small 12 v battery pack and headlight. Simple..
Awesome work buddy you were sliding all over on that cart super awesome
Nice video. A drawing would be awesome too
You go man
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I'm confused on the pink and yellow for the rectifier, charging coil only has 1 wire so do u just combine the w on the rectifer?
I'm about to wire my Odyssey and this is the bee's knees as far as DIY tutorial. 2 ques.
1. With one charging coil do I just leave the male end open that would have connected to the 2nd coil?
2. My engine has an electric start. Do I just stack another hot wire from battery to solenoid and stack another ground from battery to engine? It starts with just the two connections. I'm just basically using and converting the coils power via the rectifier but still using battery to start? (which I have.and plan to fab your harness). Hope your well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks - Josh
WOW thanks
Good information Thank you. Is that battery enough to operate the electric starter?
The air moving thing. You mean the fan?
I was a bit confused about the wiring adapters from two charging coils that were found on the "electric start motor kit" link in your description. They come together in a white adapter but in the video, they were single wires. Is it possible to remove the white wire adapter from them or could that adapter still be used for the head lights?
Yea I had a engine with another coil on it and it had two wires instead of one so I had no clue what to do with it.
Can I get this charging setup for the battery and lights without having to setup a starter? Trying to save money, and just need working lights?
What's up my Friend...You are to me the finest person who shows exactly how to do something from start to finish and everything in between.. Red Beard is TOO fast and doesn't explain things good enough for people never doing this such thing before. I use to race lay down Karts in Chantilly, Va. about 50 yrs ago.. Cars and Cameras are about 30 mins away from in Greenville, N.C. Back when I was running karts we just had battery to starter, ground and a push button momentary switch to crank them. These sorry ass new China made stuff is something.. Are you using the starter switch that came with the electric start kit? I'm building me a Dingo with predator engine with electric start. I want while the key is set on run (before cranking and after) to be a accessory for the lights that way when I turn it off the light will go off if I have forgotten to turn light switch off. Can the switch that come with the electric start be made to do this or is another switch needed? trying to make this short, but impossible.. The Red wire and the White wire coming for this switch box are Hot. The wht./blk wire coming out goes to a single charging coil.. I'm wondering isn't there a way to make the white hot wire here run to the solenoid and make this switch work acc. and run the light without cranking when you turn it to the run position. Also, couldn't the lights be wired in series like tying the black from 1 to the red of the other and that will leave 2 black wires, which 1 is actually Hot? Put a piece of red tape a few places on it so you will know. Instead of wiring them parallel. Or do they have to be wired in parallel. Main question is, I guess, Can the switch that comes with the electric start kit be made to have accessory or with this switch just crank the engine? Thanks and sorry for long post..
What size capacitor would I use with out a battery.
Any chance u wanna show the mod upgrade for charging system to the coleman mini bike that never had it... 100rb or 105cc motor? That would be awesome
I do actually, great suggestion! The coils struggle taking power away from the engine and the coils need to be external so I need to up the power and change jetting to compensate. I'm looking into specs on it but I do not have a complete solution. The billet flywheel for the predator engine is very pricey and not in current video budget, but has a larger outer magnet to test with (taper untested for fit).
Will this work on a kt96 go kart?
@Whoop!
So the duromax hpe already has the charging system in place so you can just add a battery and lights and you’re good to go?
And regulator. I am forgetting if it has a single charging coil or double but there are many engines ready to go!
Aaand I was considering to get the predator 620cc lol
Will this kit work on the stock coleman engine? I’d like to put on some led lights and a battery. Will the stock coils work for charging the battery and keep the lights bright?
Yes. If you only run at night, the battery will go into 'maintain' mode while consuming power and charging kind of levels it out if using very intense bulbs like I'm using. It makes for a very bright light but it's a very small charge. If however you are running the engine without the light on it charges very nicely and when you need to flip the lights on they're very nicely ready to go.
@@megoingfast will it ever over charger ?
Minty
I have a predator 212 non Hemi that has dual charging coils with two separate wires do I tie those together to go to the rectifier or am I supposed to have a rectifier with two inputs
They're both hot wires. The rectifier should have 2 input wires either yellow, brown, or pink. One coil on each one. Engine needs to be grounded as shown in video to complete the circuit.
@@megoingfast thank you for the info I bought a kit with the electric start and charging however to the best of my knowledge there is no rectifier all theer is in side of the key control box is a fuse and a ignition switch yet this is supposed to be a charging and electric start system as it came with coils I had eight or nine volts ac coming out of one wire and nothing out of the other do I tie these together and just put them to a line that goes to the battery
@@azdeserthobbies2047 try to reposition the coil not getting a charge. There is a wiring diagram in the video at about 0:57 where it shows with the starter. You will need to buy a regulator, link should be in description.
@@megoingfast so I just rechecked the wires with a meter if I put it on Ac and go from one wire to the other I get 9 volts ac if I go from either wire to ground I get nothing if I put it on DC voltage I get nothing only one wire to the other AC current 9 volts
I have a 212cc predator with electric starter, could I present the electrical diagram to charge the battery
Yes I'll love to see the diagram
When putting the regulator, rectifier on a electric start, what do you do with the brown wire coming from keystart box???
New subscriber. New Coleman bt200 owner! Can I upgrade just the bulb to a LED? If so can you tell me what one would work? Thanks brother.
Yes and not really. The p15d replacement bulb had many LED replacements that fit, but the engine is not putting out DC energy which LEDs are best suited to work on. Basically you're making a strobe light that can burn out an LED quickly. However, I've not tested all replacements, only a handful.
@@megoingfast Thank you for the info!
Wiring for predator motor
Im looking for the Kohler charging coil part no. for the Hemi 212 I would like to get one. Thank you
further details in the description in case needed: 1702530S
@@megoingfast thanks for the information!!
Great video. How about taking off the helmet next time?
I'd love to! Seriously! I'll make a deal with you: bring back freedom of speech where my entire career is not in jeopardy because of what I do in my personal life and I'll ship you the helmet 😉.
@@megoingfast Haha good point
I've watched this video a few times. If I'm understanding correctly, the electric start kits are not good because the flywheels are not good and because they don't come with a flywheel fan. The Coleman flywheel might be better in terms of construction however there is no such thing as a "Coleman" charging flywheel with the starter ring gear.
Not sure where this leaves us if wanting both elec start and a quality flywheel I don't need a billet flywheel and won't be building a high-RPM engine.
Tillotson 212ee, electric start, complete engine. Flywheel rated for 6k, with bursts up to 10k for not prolonged durations. There are some charging options if you custom fab here and there, but they are hard to find. For a predator hemi version engine, the Kohler flywheel is a higher quality, but cannot match the Tillotson.
The electric start kits, all 3 I've had my hands on, were trash quality. I use them, they can work, might need a tweak might not. But overall I won't trust them to spin 5k myself. I run with a torque converter so it keeps rpm lower.
@@megoingfast That's my thinking too, My RB200 has a torque converter and I have no interest in high RPMs for it. The kits seem like the easiest way to get flywheel/shroud/starter at once. Starters and shrouds I've seen separately, but charging flywheels with ring gear not so much. Perhaps since I'm not concerned about high RPMs I should not worry about it.
@@thenexthobby my rb200 with torque converter, header, intake filter, jets, tuned green spring on cvt, 4200 rpm. CVT really keeps rpm low.
@@megoingfast Limiting RPM is one thing I like about using a TC. I also have a standard "Stage 1" tune but it's too lean for some reason not related to altitude. I need either a more restrictive exhaust or a jet kit to play with, because the usual #83 jet upgrade actually isn't large enough for mine.
I was confused by your fuse placement in the actual wiring harness. It does not match your wiring diagram. The wiring harness as you configured it pulls the positive side directly off the battery terminal, so the current going to the light system from the battery does not pass through the fuse. There is no fuse protection for the lighting circuit and all the fuse does is protect the wiring between the regulator/rectifier and the battery.
The battery should not have a surge coming from it to need protection from. The surge can come from the generating coils on over rev. You're protecting the battery and circuit there after. A flashlight should not need fuse between battery and light, for example.
@@megoingfast the main purpose for a fuse is to protect against an overcurrent condition. That is almost always caused by a dead short in the wiring (pinched wires, failed insulation, etc) as most devices fail open as opposed to shorted out. No fuse protection for wiring harnesses is how they get melted and/or fires start.
Any "surge" in the charging system from over reving would be a high voltage condition, not high current. A fuse will not blow from over voltage.
How the hell do even see throw the dame helmet
LED STANDS FOR “LIGHT EMITTING DIODE” You DO NOT say LED Lights
This didnt help at all im a visual learner shouldve showed the prosses installing it
If I add electric start do I need to use the normal key switch panel? I’d rather use a traditional motorcycle key switch on “the dash” of my RB200. Incidentally these come with a regulator.
I haven’t yet found Coleman’s parts page but it’s shown here, www.monsterscooterparts.com/brands/coleman/models/coleman-rb200-mini-bike-parts/4-pin-rectifier-voltage-regulator-coleman-rb200-mini-bike.html
I do not use the key panel. It's bulky. You connect the coils to the regulator same as in video, they charge the battery only and everything else runs off battery. The solenoid can have its circuit completed coming off the battery from a key and the starter just hooks to battery to ground with the solenoid completing the circuit on key turn.
@@megoingfast So do you still have your RB200? It's OEM rectifier looks like it has two yellows, a red and a black on the harness that plugs into it. I haven't had a chance to see what goes where yet ... or even learn WHY this model even has a rectifier.
I call its rectifier the "mud catcher," since the front fender doesn't sit low enough to protect it.
@@thenexthobby yup. Still have it.